Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 2: J.J. is All-NBA but is he fading away?

J.J. can't find his groove.

J.J. can't find his groove.

ORLANDO–A reminder that J.J. is considered to be among the best players in the league, at least by media types: He was named to the All-NBA Third Team, the league announced today. It’s the first time for J.J. and the first time the Hawks have had a player selected since Dikembe in 97-98.

The timing is interesting since J.J. is slumping in the playoffs. He’s not the only one, of course, but he’s the lead dog. Before the playoffs opened, J.J. said he knew that as the Hawks’ veteran star he would take the heat if they don’t meet expectations or get the glory if they make a breakthrough. He said he embraced that role. Now, though, both J.J. and Woody seem to want to avoid putting the onus on him to deliver a big game when the Hawks need it most.

Looking at the other guys on the All-NBA teams, all of them except maybe Bogut would be looked at to be The Man for their team in trying times. J.J. needs help–more from fellow All-Star Horford, second-team All-Defense Smoove, Sixth Man of the Year Jamal and Woody. But if the Hawks’ All-NBA star doesn’t come through it’s hard to see them making this a series. It also could end up costing him in free agency.

– You have to be an Insider to read it, but ESPN.com’s John Hollinger makes a case that Iso-heavy offenses like the Hawks and Blazers run are good for the regular season, not so good for the playoffs.

Atlanta, as the league’s third-best offense, should at least be able to battle these defenses [Milwaukee and Orlando] to a draw. But even before Tuesday’s Game 1 implosion against Orlando, they were struggling. The Hawks can’t make shots, ranking just 14th out of 16 teams in postseason TS percentage. While they’ve still been able to generate second shots (they lead all teams in playoff Offensive Rebound Rate) and have been somewhat successful at avoiding turnovers, the net result put the Hawks 11th among the 16 playoff teams in postseason Offensive Efficiency.

So what is it? Perhaps the Hawks and Blazers have just had some bad games against some pretty good defenses. But between the two, we’ve built up a 31-game sample showing that something more nefarious might be at work.

Obviously, this has important implications for Atlanta’s Game 2 in Orlando on Thursday. Iso-Joe has had its moments; Game 4 of the 2008 Boston series, for instance, when Johnson single-handedly tore apart one of the best defensive teams in history. But in the aggregate, its failures have been far greater than its successes, and it’s notable that the most similar offensive team has faced similar troubles.

Is there something about iso-heavy offenses that makes them vulnerable in the playoffs? We can’t say it with certainty yet, but the case is building rapidly. The Hawks have three games left to show that Iso-Joe can be as effective in May as it is between November and April.

– In Game 1, the Hawks ran two isolation plays in the first quarter, one for Bibby (miss) and one for J.J. (a make, but it came just after a steal and Orlando’s defense hadn’t yet set). They ran four isos in that awful second quarter: Marvin (miss), Zaza (miss), J.J. (miss) and Jamal (miss). Of those six plays, all but two were long, challenged jump shots: Marvin got his layup blocked by Dwight Howard and Jamal missed on a runner near the end of the half.

– I covered Stan Van Gundy so this doesn’t surprise me. The guy is fanatical about not letting his team slip. And the Magic are aware of what happened against ‘Nique’s Celtics in ‘95. Still, I keep wondering what lesson there is to learn from a series they ended up winning, anyway.

– Slam Online ranks the Euroleague players and puts Childress at No. 5.

MC

815 comments Add your comment

Old Hawks Fan

May 6th, 2010
10:29 pm

14 to 4 rub by Orlando this quarter!

Aaron

May 6th, 2010
10:29 pm

Here comes the 3 ball attack. Hawks need to go on a counter-run quick.

Big Ray

May 6th, 2010
10:29 pm

Danger zone. This is where it all comes unhinged. Sooner or later a team that’s been shooting 55% all game long will hurt you.

Wabe

May 6th, 2010
10:29 pm

Half-hearted contest in the 4th quarter?

You’ve gotta be running out at those 3 point shooters.

drmaryb

May 6th, 2010
10:30 pm

Can JOE move without the Ball? We already know he does not MOVE with it!

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
10:30 pm

O'Brien

May 6th, 2010
10:30 pm

Hawks are missing shots they were making earlier.

I noticed JJ is wearing something on his wrist…

We needed that foul on Howard.

JSS

May 6th, 2010
10:30 pm

14 to 4!!! Another one of those 4th QTR’s

w

May 6th, 2010
10:30 pm

so much for giving it 100%

Old Hawks Fan

May 6th, 2010
10:30 pm

ISO time……………..FIRE WOODY!

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
10:31 pm

Next foul is bonus, drive the ball and score with the clock stopped

Wabe

May 6th, 2010
10:31 pm

Should’ve drawn the 4th on Howard in the 4th quarter.

everything’s off the dribble at the moment.

Melvin

May 6th, 2010
10:31 pm

1 pass and 1 shoot is all the Hawks are getting on Offense.

Wabe

May 6th, 2010
10:31 pm

in the 3rd quarter*

Big Ray

May 6th, 2010
10:31 pm

Hawks second half strategy:

“Let’s see if Joe and Jamal can shoot us back into the game. What? You mean we already had the lead?”

JSS

May 6th, 2010
10:31 pm

Drive the BALL!!!

Old Hawks Fan

May 6th, 2010
10:31 pm

SIT Marvin(High Pockets) DOWN!

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
10:31 pm

Played hearts out for 3qtrs now we giving up

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
10:32 pm

Oh great zaza

Big Ray

May 6th, 2010
10:32 pm

Josh, you freaking idiot.

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
10:32 pm

Josh u idiot. Pass the damn ball moron

Ah So Joe

May 6th, 2010
10:32 pm

Fire Woodrow??

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
10:32 pm

exactly why a guard should be handling the ball.

Old Hawks Fan

May 6th, 2010
10:33 pm

PG Josh Smith……………………..He has No Brains!

Wabe

May 6th, 2010
10:33 pm

Man, I’m sorry. I love J.Smith,

But F You.

He’s made way too many boneheaded mistakes today that have cost us possessions + points.

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
10:33 pm

Its a wrap fellas, we down 2-0, thought we were gonna steal this one

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
10:33 pm

See Big Ray what did I tell u. U can’t deny it anymore. Josh is just not smart.

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
10:33 pm

went away from what was working.

JSS

May 6th, 2010
10:33 pm

Amazing self-destruction!

lewis

May 6th, 2010
10:33 pm

hawks look terrible

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
10:33 pm

Shut Up Spitter LOL

Old Hawks Fan

May 6th, 2010
10:34 pm

Break This Team Up this off season………………….Trade Josh for a First Round Pick.

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
10:34 pm

no Ray… the coach is the idiot for allowing it..

O'Brien

May 6th, 2010
10:34 pm

Can somebody tell Josh to pass the ball? He has to know when to give it up.

But he has been doing it all season, so what do you expect?

Ah So Joe

May 6th, 2010
10:34 pm

Josh Smith is the best player with an IQ of 80 in the NBA.

drmaryb

May 6th, 2010
10:34 pm

Every play needs to ATTACK the rim from here on out! No more jumpers!
We need And 1’s & pts from foul line here on out! Play that 50 second Offense NOW!

Wabe

May 6th, 2010
10:34 pm

EVERYTHING’S BEEN OFF THE DRIBBLE.

Horford’s one jumper was the one and only shot that I can remember at the moment that we’ve actually been an assisted attempt.

Everything else is off the dribble. Therefore, the ball ISN’T MOVING!

Old Hawks Fan

May 6th, 2010
10:35 pm

Send Josh to see Da Wizard and get a BRAIN! He has no Basket IQ……………………NONE!

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
10:36 pm

This fourth quarter has been an offensive implosion. Isolation on every possession, and predictably, the Hawks haven’t got to the line and have missed shot after shot. 2/12 shooting, almost all off of isolation. I don’t get it. They played so well offensively for three quarters, forcing the ball inside, playing with no fear of Howard, and now all of a sudden they are settling back into isolation mode.

NUNNA!!

May 6th, 2010
10:37 pm

NO ADJUSTMENTS..NO SUBS UNLESS WE’RE IN FOUL TROUBLE..WOODY IS GONNA RIDE,JOE,JAMAAL,JOSH,MARVIN UNTIL WE’RE DOWN BY 15 WITH 1MINUTE LEFT

Big Ray

May 6th, 2010
10:37 pm

Venom Spitter ,

Oh? Then so is Joe Johnson, who led the team in turnovers in game one, and has made one mistake after another with his shooting. Stupid mistakes are stupid mistakes. I’ll be the first to call it stupid if it’s stupid. But Josh doesn’t do this all the time. So I don’t call him stupid all the time.

Call me back when he averages as many turnovers as he does assists. For a season.

Wabe

May 6th, 2010
10:37 pm

F it.

Why?

Dribble, dribble, dribble, shoot.

Dribble, dribble, dribble, shoot.

Nobody wants to pass the ball out?

Old Hawks Fan

May 6th, 2010
10:37 pm

Turn Out The Lights………………….

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
10:37 pm

Another choke just great lol

Ah So Joe

May 6th, 2010
10:37 pm

IsoJosh. Cool.

Mystikal

May 6th, 2010
10:37 pm

Why does Josh Smith walk down the floor so much?

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
10:37 pm

mental and physical fatigue.

Aaron

May 6th, 2010
10:37 pm

Josh is killing the Hawks right now.

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
10:38 pm

Josh with another dumb ass play lol

Najeh Davenpoop

May 6th, 2010
10:38 pm

And I won’t excuse Smoove either, he’s played like an idiot in this quarter.