Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 2: J.J. is All-NBA but is he fading away?

J.J. can't find his groove.

J.J. can't find his groove.

ORLANDO–A reminder that J.J. is considered to be among the best players in the league, at least by media types: He was named to the All-NBA Third Team, the league announced today. It’s the first time for J.J. and the first time the Hawks have had a player selected since Dikembe in 97-98.

The timing is interesting since J.J. is slumping in the playoffs. He’s not the only one, of course, but he’s the lead dog. Before the playoffs opened, J.J. said he knew that as the Hawks’ veteran star he would take the heat if they don’t meet expectations or get the glory if they make a breakthrough. He said he embraced that role. Now, though, both J.J. and Woody seem to want to avoid putting the onus on him to deliver a big game when the Hawks need it most.

Looking at the other guys on the All-NBA teams, all of them except maybe Bogut would be looked at to be The Man for their team in trying times. J.J. needs help–more from fellow All-Star Horford, second-team All-Defense Smoove, Sixth Man of the Year Jamal and Woody. But if the Hawks’ All-NBA star doesn’t come through it’s hard to see them making this a series. It also could end up costing him in free agency.

– You have to be an Insider to read it, but ESPN.com’s John Hollinger makes a case that Iso-heavy offenses like the Hawks and Blazers run are good for the regular season, not so good for the playoffs.

Atlanta, as the league’s third-best offense, should at least be able to battle these defenses [Milwaukee and Orlando] to a draw. But even before Tuesday’s Game 1 implosion against Orlando, they were struggling. The Hawks can’t make shots, ranking just 14th out of 16 teams in postseason TS percentage. While they’ve still been able to generate second shots (they lead all teams in playoff Offensive Rebound Rate) and have been somewhat successful at avoiding turnovers, the net result put the Hawks 11th among the 16 playoff teams in postseason Offensive Efficiency.

So what is it? Perhaps the Hawks and Blazers have just had some bad games against some pretty good defenses. But between the two, we’ve built up a 31-game sample showing that something more nefarious might be at work.

Obviously, this has important implications for Atlanta’s Game 2 in Orlando on Thursday. Iso-Joe has had its moments; Game 4 of the 2008 Boston series, for instance, when Johnson single-handedly tore apart one of the best defensive teams in history. But in the aggregate, its failures have been far greater than its successes, and it’s notable that the most similar offensive team has faced similar troubles.

Is there something about iso-heavy offenses that makes them vulnerable in the playoffs? We can’t say it with certainty yet, but the case is building rapidly. The Hawks have three games left to show that Iso-Joe can be as effective in May as it is between November and April.

– In Game 1, the Hawks ran two isolation plays in the first quarter, one for Bibby (miss) and one for J.J. (a make, but it came just after a steal and Orlando’s defense hadn’t yet set). They ran four isos in that awful second quarter: Marvin (miss), Zaza (miss), J.J. (miss) and Jamal (miss). Of those six plays, all but two were long, challenged jump shots: Marvin got his layup blocked by Dwight Howard and Jamal missed on a runner near the end of the half.

– I covered Stan Van Gundy so this doesn’t surprise me. The guy is fanatical about not letting his team slip. And the Magic are aware of what happened against ‘Nique’s Celtics in ‘95. Still, I keep wondering what lesson there is to learn from a series they ended up winning, anyway.

– Slam Online ranks the Euroleague players and puts Childress at No. 5.

MC

815 comments Add your comment

Aaron

May 6th, 2010
10:18 pm

This really is an impressive game from the Hawks, even Josh is hitting jumpers.

Old Hawks Fan

May 6th, 2010
10:18 pm

DUNK the ball Hoford! 4 0n ONE!

Melvin

May 6th, 2010
10:18 pm

I’m glad to see Bibby with that towel over his head b/c he need to hide after his poor play tonight…

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
10:19 pm

Hubie callin out WOODY

steven

May 6th, 2010
10:19 pm

no more doubling please

Old Hawks Fan

May 6th, 2010
10:19 pm

Stop Joining The Parachute Club Fellows.

JSS

May 6th, 2010
10:19 pm

Can’t believe I’m saying, good move Woody, let Joe sit!

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
10:20 pm

I will give Woody credit for 1 thing. Not playing Bibby that much.

steven

May 6th, 2010
10:20 pm

lol nice motivational speech there woody

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
10:20 pm

Air France has been grounded

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
10:20 pm

need more offense on the floor..

Old Hawks Fan

May 6th, 2010
10:20 pm

Whoever White Chocolate is guarding………………he should be getting ABUSE by Hawks GuARDS!

JSS

May 6th, 2010
10:20 pm

Good TO, tell them to not settle for jumpers!

Old Hawks Fan

May 6th, 2010
10:22 pm

JJ is TOO DAMN SOFT TO BE 6′8 …….6′9. He plays smaller than JNelson……WTF!

South ga boy in the atl

May 6th, 2010
10:22 pm

Gotta have Al go at supergirl again and try to get that 4th foul. Ron Jeremy will pannick and take him out if we can get a quick one coming out of this timeout

Old Hawks Fan

May 6th, 2010
10:22 pm

LMAO @South ga

JOE JOHNSON REALIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

May 6th, 2010
10:22 pm

joe johnson or john salmons. who you got?

Aaron

May 6th, 2010
10:22 pm

Is anyone else surprised that Marvin is getting more minutes that teacher’s pet (Bibby) tonight?

Aaron

May 6th, 2010
10:23 pm

correction: more minutes than *

Big Ray

May 6th, 2010
10:23 pm

You know, other than going 2 for 6 from the field, Marvin is having a pretty good game. 9 rebounds makes all the difference.

steven

May 6th, 2010
10:25 pm

gotta make that Jamal

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
10:25 pm

Dang, he hittin em

Wabe

May 6th, 2010
10:25 pm

Gotta be careful here.

Can’t let this one slip away.

Big Ray

May 6th, 2010
10:25 pm

Gotta hit those shots, or we negate our offensive rebounding efforts.

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

May 6th, 2010
10:25 pm

ORL has KILLED us the past few seasons…and just CRUSHED us by 43 in Game 1. It appeared as if all the Hawks could do is just pray to win 1 game at home somehow.

Amazingly, we have come back and played neck and neck with them in game 2 up to this point. NO EXCUSES…have to steal this one. They need to go all out to win this. There’s no room and no excuses for those same silly mistakes that have cost us 4th quarters/games for some time now.

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
10:26 pm

Don’t panic Hawks

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

May 6th, 2010
10:26 pm

ORL the aggressor …come on now..smh

JSS

May 6th, 2010
10:26 pm

Just like that SNAP

steven

May 6th, 2010
10:26 pm

Josh you just cost us the game you f$$cukin pansy

Melvin

May 6th, 2010
10:27 pm

Marvin should have dunk that or at least try to dunk it…

Old Hawks Fan

May 6th, 2010
10:27 pm

High Pocket goes to SOFT going to the basket!

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
10:27 pm

Plenty of time left, regroup, start going thru AL

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
10:27 pm

The Hawks better keep it 2gether.

Big Ray

May 6th, 2010
10:27 pm

I wonder if going away from Al Horford has hurt us any, huh?

Duhhhhhhhhhh!

lewis

May 6th, 2010
10:27 pm

fire josh smith

What!

May 6th, 2010
10:27 pm

JOSH SMITH STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!

WE SET OURSELVES UP FOR THIS. YOU SHOULDA KNOWN THEY WOULD TAKE OVER IN THE 4TH GAME OVER!!!!!

Wabe

May 6th, 2010
10:28 pm

Couldn’t afford the 4th quarter lull.

It seems that might be the demise of our chances.

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
10:28 pm

Another bad 4th qtr

bigdave

May 6th, 2010
10:28 pm

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
10:28 pm

Man everything is droppin for these guys

steven

May 6th, 2010
10:28 pm

josh’s 0 IQ costs us way more than he gives to us

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

May 6th, 2010
10:28 pm

drmaryb

May 6th, 2010
10:28 pm

Not losing by 43 is NOT a win!

Wabe

May 6th, 2010
10:28 pm

It’s a wrap.

Old Hawks Fan

May 6th, 2010
10:28 pm

Hawks 1 and OUT>>>>>>>>>>>>..One and OUT

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
10:28 pm

Gotta get stops

VenomSpitter

May 6th, 2010
10:28 pm

Melvin

May 6th, 2010
10:28 pm

Here we go with an offensive drought….

Wabe

May 6th, 2010
10:28 pm

Josh Smith is playing stupid lazy.

Luke Cage

May 6th, 2010
10:29 pm

DAMN, they on a damn run