Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 1: Offensive Talk

Hawks gotta score, too. (Curtis Compton/ccomptoon@ajc.com)

Hawks gotta score, too. (Curtis Compton/ccomptoon@ajc.com)

ORLANDO–Quoth super commenter northcyde: “Everyone is talking about doubling Howard and their shotmaking, but no one is talking about our horrendous offensive deficiencies against Orlando.”

Agreed there hasn’t been much talk about the Hawks’ offensive struggles, but Brett LaGree is on it at Hoopinion:

“[T]he dominance of Orlando’s defense against Atlanta’s offense appears not to be an issue of interest on the eve of the series. Seriously, Orlando scored 113.3 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Hawks allowed 108.3 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. Orlando scored 111.9 points per 100 possessions in the four games against the Hawks. There’s certainly no reason for the Hawks not to try and do better but they didn’t defend Orlando badly (by their standards) while losing three of four games.

Conversely, the Hawks scored 113.5 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Magic allowed 105.1 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. The Hawks scored 93.5 points per 100 possessions in the four games against Orlando. There’s massive room (and need) for improvement when the Hawks have the ball.

Granted, the Hawks held Orlando below 1 point per possession in their March 24th victory and that’s the only recent example the Hawks have of beating Orlando. However, Orlando held the Hawks below 1 point per possession each time they played this season. I don’t think it’s realistic for the Hawks, against whom, it must be remembered, Milwaukee surpassed their season offensive efficiency average in 3 of 7 playoff games, to hold Orlando to 88% of their season offensive efficiency average often enough to win a seven-game playoff series.

The Hawks are going to have to find easier ways to score against the Magic to compete in this series. If they have any new and different ideas about how to accomplish that, they’re keeping them quiet.

I’ll throw in my two cents on the topic by booting up the Synergy Sports machine, which could possibly be the Best. Thing. Ever. The Hawks’ numbers by play type in the four games against Orlando:

Isolation: 67 plays, .93 points per possession, 27/59 FG (45.7%)

P-and-R ball handler: 52 plays, .66 points per possession, 9/42 FG (21.4%)

Post-up: 50 plays, .66 points per possession, 11/37 FG(29.7%)

P-and-R roll man: 13 plays, .895 points per possession, 3/9 FG (33.3%)

Spot-up: 89 plays, .975 points per possession, 31/70 FG (44.3%)

Off screen: 17 plays, .94 points per possession, 6/15 FG (40%)

Cut: 29 plays, .94 points per possession, 12/24 FG (50%)

Offensive rebounds: 19 plays, 1.45 points per possession, 9/11 FG (82%)

Transition: 36 plays, .94 points per possession, 14/24 FG (58.3%)

All other play types: 23 plays, .23 points per possession, 2/9 FG (22.2%)

Judging by those numbers, the Hawks probably shouldn’t try Dwight Howard and Co. in the paint. No surprise there. Without looking at each play, I’m also guessing their problems with the pick-and-roll dribbler scoring has to do with venturing into Orlando’s trees. The Hawks might try getting more stuff going to the basket off pick-and-rolls and cuts, and also create more spot-up opportunities. But those kind of plays require player and/or ball movement and the Hawks seem to do commit to these concepts only intermittently.

As for the Hawks players in those four games vs. Orlando:

Johnson: 139 min., .92 points per possession
Josh Smith: 120 min., .77 points per possession
Horford: 119 min., 1.07 points per possession
Crawford: 116 min., .927 points per possession
Williams: 112 min., .965 points per possession
Bibby: 101 min., 1.18 points per possession
Evans: 61 min., 1.76 points per possession
Pachulia: 61 min., .975 points per possession
Teague:18 min., .695 points per possession
West: 13 min., 2.0 points per possession
Joe Smith: 5 min., 2 points per possession

Clearly, this means Mario should play major minutes in this series.

–I picked the Magic in 5 for the paper but now don’t feel good about it. I think it’s an overreaction after I got suckered into thinking the Hawks would have no clunkers against the Bucks and win in 5. I read too much into that last regular-season road game at Milwaukee. Now I think maybe I’m reading too much into the Game 3 surrender and Game 5 meltdown against Milwaukee. Or maybe it’s because the AJC’s Mark Bradley, 0-3 in the first round, is here for Games 1 and 2. He’s picking the Hawks in 7, so I assume he’s counting on Jeff Schultz to make the trip for the series-clincher.

But, seriously, I look at the Magic and see a team with few real weaknesses, at least not many the Hawks are capable of exploiting. Their ability to get open 3-pointers and play smothering team defense will have the Hawks on their heels all series. Still, I believe the Hawks will give a good showing and lose in six.

– Both Orlando Sentinel columnists pick the Magic. George Diaz says Magic in five but will give them a “mulligan” if they finish it in six. His colleague Mike Bianchi says the Magic should beware the Hawks, whom he thinks will lose in seven:

The Hawks have had their wake-up call, much like the Magic did last year in the opening round against Philly when the inferior 76ers jumped out to 2-1 series lead and came within a Hedo Turkoglu buzzer-beater of going ahead 3-1.

“It’s a good analogy,” Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said when I asked if the Hawks of this year remind him of the Magic of last year. “They’re coming off a first-round series in which people weren’t inspired by — same as our first-round series last year. I think there are some definite similarities between how people were talking about a year ago and how people are talking about them now.
“That doesn’t translate into this gym. We all know how good they are. We have tremendous respect for them.”

–Super commenter O’Brien says: “It will be very important for Hawks to crash the boards too. In all 4 games this season, we lost the rebounding battle (-12,-10, -9, and -10).”

Smoove hears you: “We’ve got to box people out. They shoot a lot of threes and there are going to be a lot of long rebounds, so even the guards have to come in and help out. If we gang rebound, we will be cool.”

– Apparently Pietrus is fine after turning his ankle the other day.

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

580 comments Add your comment

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
10:02 pm

how can he keep his job?? we spend a lot of “man hours” following this team to some capacity. look at his idea of basketball.. who cares about records. improvement. look at this crap.

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
10:03 pm

How do you “bounce back” from this (something we’re bound to hear from some clown)? Lose by only 20?

WHY???

May 4th, 2010
10:05 pm

All i can say is DAMN LOL, this is almost comical, i mean this is like playing NBA Live on Easy Mode, this is crazy, imma head back to work LOL

O'Brien

May 4th, 2010
10:05 pm

Ray,

Woody will say that the Magic defended their homecourt, thats all.

My question is, what kind of adjustments can we make for game 2? i feel like mentally, our players are already defeated

Blast

May 4th, 2010
10:05 pm

Only way Woody can save his job is either to win this series, or at least take it to 7 games.

But even then, that might not be enough. 55 points in the game! What happened to Hawks scoring 55-70 points in the half?

They didn’t even compete tonight! That’s why I’m so mad!

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
10:05 pm

Guys I’m gonna start a petition to trade teams with the Thunder anybody wanna sign just say “I”

WHY???

May 4th, 2010
10:06 pm

why is Crawford still in this game?

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
10:06 pm

I’m sorry am I the only one who doesn’t like Zaza?

Mystikal

May 4th, 2010
10:06 pm

EXTRA EXTRA, hawks have been grounded, than got jacked for their manhood!!!!!!!

I mean I didn’t expect them to win, but this is just sad.

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
10:06 pm

we have GOT to watch this post game!

WHY???

May 4th, 2010
10:07 pm

man we cannot get down by the 50 barrier

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
10:07 pm

This is what you play for…
It’s the playoffs.

Does this look like a 53 win team?

- Fire “coach”

Blast

May 4th, 2010
10:07 pm

Hawks lose by 40 points in the playoffs? Unheard of!

JeJe

May 4th, 2010
10:07 pm

EVERYONE STOP WORRYING

THEY’RE DEFENDING HOME COURT LIKE THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO

JeJe

May 4th, 2010
10:08 pm

DIDNT WE LOSE BY LIKE 50 TO ORLANDO IN JANUARY 2009. WE LOST 2 GAMES IN B2BS BY 40 EACH I THINK

WHY???

May 4th, 2010
10:08 pm

Bout to play against the Magic with the Hawks on NBA Live on my Xbox lol

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
10:08 pm

Next Geico commercial:

” Stopping the Hawks offense. So easy, a cave man could do it.”

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
10:09 pm

I expected a loss. And most of what I’m probably saying at the moment is out of pure frustration. But, really, this kind of beatdown wouldn’t have even come to mind.

Did you see the 1st quarter? They actually gave me a sense that we MIGHT JUST BE ABLE to do something in this series…

A 64-20 run later, that thought is, on hold.

Let me retract my “fire coach” statement, and give Woody his fair chance to make adjustments…

That way I don’t get slammed by folks for hatin.

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
10:10 pm

let’s all go on youtube and watch some highlight clips of the hawks with Dominique, the good ole days.

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
10:10 pm

” Stopping the Hawks offense. So easy, a cave man could do it.”

Too funny.

Mystikal

May 4th, 2010
10:10 pm

I hope all the punks at home saying “it’s just one game” get their reality checked!!!

JeJe

May 4th, 2010
10:10 pm

LET’S JUST TAKE THIS TO 7 AND INTENTIONALLY LOSE GAME 7 BY 205 SO WOODSON WILL OFFICIALLY BE GONE. GOTTA LOSE THE ELIMINATION GAME BY THE MOST

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
10:10 pm

O’brien ,

I’m not certain I want to hear anything Woody has to say right now. Players either.

cp

May 4th, 2010
10:11 pm

If Bibby comes out in game 2 and stinks it up early, well when Bibby does just go ahead and put Teague in. Its nice to see a pg who can put pressure on the opposing guard. He might be getting his shot blocked but at least he is taking it to the rim something our starting pg just cant do…… And once again im on the bring in Travis Outlaw this summer bandwagon. Marvin has no handles what so ever. This guy always dribbles the ball off his foot or falls down trying to dribble. No more Marvin.

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
10:11 pm

The Hawks wonder why they are made fun of.

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
10:11 pm

wow.. is this a 1st? they brought in the post/pre game crew..

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
10:11 pm

Wabe ,

Fair enough. He gets a chance to make adjustments. Now are you going to be even more fair and give him 3 games to do it? Heh….

NCBravesFan

May 4th, 2010
10:12 pm

Good God – it’s so bad, Charles Barkley is holding back on his commentary!

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
10:12 pm

The only extension I wanna see woody get is an extension of someones foot in woody’s azz.

NUNNA!!

May 4th, 2010
10:12 pm

BIG DAVE SAID:”how can he keep his job?? we spend a lot of “man hours” following this team to some capacity. look at his idea of basketball.. who cares about records. improvement. look at this crap.”
———————————————————————————————————————————————–
BIG DAVE,I BET YOU A HUNDRED DOLLARS THAT WOODY COMES OUT AND MENTIONS HOW THE HAWKS RECORD IMPROVED OVER THE YEARS..I BET HE DO!!

HE THINKS THATS WHAT MAKES HIM A GREAT COACH..BUT YET,HE DON’T WON’T YOU TO LOOK AT HIS PLAYOFF RECORD..

HEY NORTHCYDE,I BET YO KNOW..WHAT IS THE HAWKS RECORD IN THE POST SEASON WITH WOODY? AND WHAT IS OUR GAMEPLAN THAT JOE IS FOLLOWING?

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
10:12 pm

LOL @ TNT CREW

butting in “PLEASE FOLX STAYED TUNED we have another game coming up!”

“this really is the NBA channel!”

O'Brien

May 4th, 2010
10:13 pm

big dave,

Thats what I was thinking. We sucked so bad that the studio crew is talking about the Utah-LA game

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
10:13 pm

I’d rather have Dion Glover on this team than Joe.

doc

May 4th, 2010
10:15 pm

MC always stick with your first hunch

darrell starks

May 4th, 2010
10:16 pm

For all you woody lover, talking about C.O.Y give me a break.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
10:16 pm

Get ready, because you know what’s coming.

“We’ll just have to figure it out…”

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
10:17 pm

I want an APOLOGY from Fire Woody. “I suck as a coach, and I am very sorry to all the Atlanta fans for wasting the past 5 years. I will give $10 million back to the Hawks so they can try to lure someone better with a nice bonus.”

NUNNA!!

May 4th, 2010
10:18 pm

its the same thing,every week on here and every playoffs..
no adjusments and we’re facing a team who had 6 days off..we should have kept collins in and put al at the PF,and we need more cutting and ball movement..
but u know what,its to late to coach them to play that way..its way to freaking late and its not excuse for woody to coach after tonite..

Taylor

May 4th, 2010
10:18 pm

can we sign and trade Joe?

welikebaseball2

May 4th, 2010
10:19 pm

Joe was a non-factor. It would be different if his shot was off but he found a way to involve his teammates (which is what the true NBA superstars do). He looked awful. Holding the ball, turning it over, holding the ball some more. I think we reached our ceiling with these players & this coach. Time to give out some pink slips.

Mike Hunt

May 4th, 2010
10:19 pm

The Hawks are being sodomized. Squeal Woody.

darrell starks

May 4th, 2010
10:20 pm

The hawks went 7 games with a depleted bucks team, so what do you think the magic is going 2 do with the hawks swept them in 4 or win in 5.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
10:20 pm

McHale, that excuse is a poor one.

The Hawks have nobody to blame but themselves for allowing the Bucks series to go to 7 games.

Using the short layoff and the 48 hour turnaround as an excuse to what we witnessed tonight is a joke.

JeJe

May 4th, 2010
10:20 pm

ATLANTA’S STARTERS WOULD NOT BEAT ORLANDO’S BENCH

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
10:20 pm

JeJe

May 4th, 2010
10:21 pm

its not JUST ONE GAME. THE SAME RESULT WILL HAPPEN IN GAME 2 AND BEYOND

Taylor

May 4th, 2010
10:21 pm

Mo Evans wtf are you doing

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
10:21 pm

@ McHale STFU

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
10:22 pm

I’ve never seen a team actually get RAPED. Until now.

darrell starks

May 4th, 2010
10:23 pm

Just think if hawks would have sign woody for 4more year it would have been a big waste, smart job ASG not signing him before the playoffs.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!