Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 1: Offensive Talk

Hawks gotta score, too. (Curtis Compton/ccomptoon@ajc.com)

Hawks gotta score, too. (Curtis Compton/ccomptoon@ajc.com)

ORLANDO–Quoth super commenter northcyde: “Everyone is talking about doubling Howard and their shotmaking, but no one is talking about our horrendous offensive deficiencies against Orlando.”

Agreed there hasn’t been much talk about the Hawks’ offensive struggles, but Brett LaGree is on it at Hoopinion:

“[T]he dominance of Orlando’s defense against Atlanta’s offense appears not to be an issue of interest on the eve of the series. Seriously, Orlando scored 113.3 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Hawks allowed 108.3 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. Orlando scored 111.9 points per 100 possessions in the four games against the Hawks. There’s certainly no reason for the Hawks not to try and do better but they didn’t defend Orlando badly (by their standards) while losing three of four games.

Conversely, the Hawks scored 113.5 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Magic allowed 105.1 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. The Hawks scored 93.5 points per 100 possessions in the four games against Orlando. There’s massive room (and need) for improvement when the Hawks have the ball.

Granted, the Hawks held Orlando below 1 point per possession in their March 24th victory and that’s the only recent example the Hawks have of beating Orlando. However, Orlando held the Hawks below 1 point per possession each time they played this season. I don’t think it’s realistic for the Hawks, against whom, it must be remembered, Milwaukee surpassed their season offensive efficiency average in 3 of 7 playoff games, to hold Orlando to 88% of their season offensive efficiency average often enough to win a seven-game playoff series.

The Hawks are going to have to find easier ways to score against the Magic to compete in this series. If they have any new and different ideas about how to accomplish that, they’re keeping them quiet.

I’ll throw in my two cents on the topic by booting up the Synergy Sports machine, which could possibly be the Best. Thing. Ever. The Hawks’ numbers by play type in the four games against Orlando:

Isolation: 67 plays, .93 points per possession, 27/59 FG (45.7%)

P-and-R ball handler: 52 plays, .66 points per possession, 9/42 FG (21.4%)

Post-up: 50 plays, .66 points per possession, 11/37 FG(29.7%)

P-and-R roll man: 13 plays, .895 points per possession, 3/9 FG (33.3%)

Spot-up: 89 plays, .975 points per possession, 31/70 FG (44.3%)

Off screen: 17 plays, .94 points per possession, 6/15 FG (40%)

Cut: 29 plays, .94 points per possession, 12/24 FG (50%)

Offensive rebounds: 19 plays, 1.45 points per possession, 9/11 FG (82%)

Transition: 36 plays, .94 points per possession, 14/24 FG (58.3%)

All other play types: 23 plays, .23 points per possession, 2/9 FG (22.2%)

Judging by those numbers, the Hawks probably shouldn’t try Dwight Howard and Co. in the paint. No surprise there. Without looking at each play, I’m also guessing their problems with the pick-and-roll dribbler scoring has to do with venturing into Orlando’s trees. The Hawks might try getting more stuff going to the basket off pick-and-rolls and cuts, and also create more spot-up opportunities. But those kind of plays require player and/or ball movement and the Hawks seem to do commit to these concepts only intermittently.

As for the Hawks players in those four games vs. Orlando:

Johnson: 139 min., .92 points per possession
Josh Smith: 120 min., .77 points per possession
Horford: 119 min., 1.07 points per possession
Crawford: 116 min., .927 points per possession
Williams: 112 min., .965 points per possession
Bibby: 101 min., 1.18 points per possession
Evans: 61 min., 1.76 points per possession
Pachulia: 61 min., .975 points per possession
Teague:18 min., .695 points per possession
West: 13 min., 2.0 points per possession
Joe Smith: 5 min., 2 points per possession

Clearly, this means Mario should play major minutes in this series.

–I picked the Magic in 5 for the paper but now don’t feel good about it. I think it’s an overreaction after I got suckered into thinking the Hawks would have no clunkers against the Bucks and win in 5. I read too much into that last regular-season road game at Milwaukee. Now I think maybe I’m reading too much into the Game 3 surrender and Game 5 meltdown against Milwaukee. Or maybe it’s because the AJC’s Mark Bradley, 0-3 in the first round, is here for Games 1 and 2. He’s picking the Hawks in 7, so I assume he’s counting on Jeff Schultz to make the trip for the series-clincher.

But, seriously, I look at the Magic and see a team with few real weaknesses, at least not many the Hawks are capable of exploiting. Their ability to get open 3-pointers and play smothering team defense will have the Hawks on their heels all series. Still, I believe the Hawks will give a good showing and lose in six.

– Both Orlando Sentinel columnists pick the Magic. George Diaz says Magic in five but will give them a “mulligan” if they finish it in six. His colleague Mike Bianchi says the Magic should beware the Hawks, whom he thinks will lose in seven:

The Hawks have had their wake-up call, much like the Magic did last year in the opening round against Philly when the inferior 76ers jumped out to 2-1 series lead and came within a Hedo Turkoglu buzzer-beater of going ahead 3-1.

“It’s a good analogy,” Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said when I asked if the Hawks of this year remind him of the Magic of last year. “They’re coming off a first-round series in which people weren’t inspired by — same as our first-round series last year. I think there are some definite similarities between how people were talking about a year ago and how people are talking about them now.
“That doesn’t translate into this gym. We all know how good they are. We have tremendous respect for them.”

–Super commenter O’Brien says: “It will be very important for Hawks to crash the boards too. In all 4 games this season, we lost the rebounding battle (-12,-10, -9, and -10).”

Smoove hears you: “We’ve got to box people out. They shoot a lot of threes and there are going to be a lot of long rebounds, so even the guards have to come in and help out. If we gang rebound, we will be cool.”

– Apparently Pietrus is fine after turning his ankle the other day.

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

580 comments Add your comment

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
9:47 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
9:47 pm

I don’t like to speculate on the mindset of players and all that, because it’s mostly guesswork and I can’t really back it up with anything. But I wonder how much Woody’s early Hack-a-Dwight strategy played into the mentality of the Hawks. If you boil it down, Hack-a-Whoever is just a statement conceding that you can’t guard that player straight up. The Hawks played fearlessly to start the game, but they wilted from the beginning of the 2nd quarter. I wonder how much Hack-a-Dwight had to do with that mentally.

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
9:47 pm

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
9:47 pm

This has to be one of the worst playoff defeats a teams faced in a while…

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
9:47 pm

Fire Woody shown in deep thought

“What is that number to Atlanta Peach Movers??”

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
9:48 pm

This is an AZZ WHOOPING

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
9:48 pm

The Hawks were tied 27-27 at one point. Since that point, the Magic have outscored the Hawks 58-17. No typo.

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
9:48 pm

FORTY ONE POINT LEAD! BUHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

FIRE WOODY

cp

May 4th, 2010
9:48 pm

I see ol Samuel is no where to be found.

O'Brien

May 4th, 2010
9:49 pm

Hawks are down by 41 points. Wow. And we wonder why the national media does not respect us.

This is horrible. I know its not all Woody’s fault (our players cant shoot worth a lick), but as the HC, he has to accept the responsibility.

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
9:49 pm

i mean seriously, in the history of basketball.. who gets there a*s kicked like we do..

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
9:49 pm

RUCKER PARK

COLLEGE TEAMS

can play better!!!

d.carter

May 4th, 2010
9:49 pm

PLEASE FIRE WOODY BECAUSE HE DOESNT KNOW HOW TO AT LEAST DIVISE A GAMEPLAN THAT WILL ALLOW US TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOMETHING…

Grandad

May 4th, 2010
9:50 pm

They’ve beat us & whupped us…the only thing left,
is to go ahead & start writin’ bad checks!

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
9:50 pm

“I know its not all Woody’s fault (our players cant shoot worth a lick), but as the HC, he has to accept the responsibility.”

If the Magic were going one-on-five every possession shooting off-balance, out of rhythm jump shots, they wouldn’t be able to shoot a lick either.

Clyde and JeJe, where you at? Y’all disappointing me… I expected to see a lot more FIRE WOODY by this point.

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
9:51 pm

@bigdave well there are the clippers…

oh wait, they would play better than this too

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
9:51 pm

This game is gonna be on “How to play basketball” DVDs from now on LMAO

NUNNA!!

May 4th, 2010
9:51 pm

don’t think im crazy,but i still think we can make this a series and even win it..
the coaching staff has to make a change on their,”GAME PLAN”

cp

May 4th, 2010
9:51 pm

You know you’re getting ya azz whooped when I think you should put Mario in and im the anti Mario fan.

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
9:51 pm

This game is gonna be on “How to play basketball” DVDs from now on becuz the MAgic are showing the hawks how to play BBALL LMAO

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
9:51 pm

Najeh ,

The Hawks were tied 27-27 at one point. Since that point, the Magic have outscored the Hawks 58-17. No typo.

I have one question. Did you run that by the “King of Research”?

Mystikal

May 4th, 2010
9:51 pm

Byron Scott would be a good coach for this group, think Avery Johnson would be too much. Even though they need it, this team is too soft to have Avery Johnson barking at em. Get a new coach and I say a new GM while your at it. Okay, i’ll reserve judgement on that. But any more tying money up in non-producing players(Bibby, Marv, Chillz) and that’s it for me.

d.carter

May 4th, 2010
9:52 pm

WOODY LOOKS DUMB AS HELL ON THE BENCH WITH HIS ARMS FOLDED

Blast

May 4th, 2010
9:52 pm

Getting close to a 40 point blowout! Never in the history of the NBA. 3rd seed lose so badly to second seed.

Fire Woody, and fire Joe Johnson!

Joe might have made a bad mistake not signing that extension. He ain’t showing nothing special right now to deserve the max from any team!

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
9:53 pm

No, I’ll tell you why Woody has to accept responsiblity.

You’ve known all along what you have to get past to “take the next step”.

Hawks coaches, players, and fans know that if they want to get out of the Eastern Conference, you have to get past Cleveland and Orlando. However, despite all of our struggles vs. Orlando and Cleveland, we don’t approach any of our games vs. them any differently.

I want to hear Woody say something about defense tonight while we sit on 40 some odd points going into the 4th quarter…

Whose to blame for the fact that this team has no offensive identity?

Whose known that this time was coming from the begining of the season, and whose had all the time in the world to install some type of system that would have us ready for THIS MOMENT.

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
9:53 pm

ole’ woody gone go “break down” some tape again.. acting as if he’s going to devise a game plan.. when clearly he just going to go chew on the tape.

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
9:53 pm

THEIR SINGLE PLAYER JUST OUT REBOUNDED OUR WHOLE TEAM FOR THE OFFENSIVE REBOUND AND SCORE!

cdog

May 4th, 2010
9:53 pm

the hawks are stinking it up in orlando tonight.the main thing i said they shouldn’t do, they are doing them. relying on jump shots which are not falling.playing soft on both ends of the floor and just plain playing stupid basketball.if this is an indication of what to look for in the series they need to forfeit to the majic now and let them rest and prepare for the cavs- celtic winner.there is no excuse for this performance in a playoff game.

Blast

May 4th, 2010
9:54 pm

Hawks have scored 44 points almost at the end of the 4th?

Dude!

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
9:54 pm

Blast it’s past 40 pts

Mystikal

May 4th, 2010
9:54 pm

If Hawks were shooting at their best and Orlando was only 50% the hawks would still be losing. That is how much better a shooting team Orlando is than us, and I think this 40+ lead is evidence!

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
9:55 pm

outside of Josh only 13 made fg’s

and the Magic’s main 3 for over 60 pts.. so what exactly was our approach to this game? just go out there and play huh.. get ya beat by 50 against a healthy, well coached team.

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
9:56 pm

Well everybody look at the brightside this series will put Woody outta his misery lol.

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
9:56 pm

ok, Fire Woody. Fire Joke Johnson. Fire bibby.

Let’s rebuild.

GM – look, 1st we need a HIGH QUALITY COACH. NO MORE BARGAIN HUNTING. SPEND THE $$ SOMEHOW AND GET ONE.

then, we need a solid LEADER. not necessarily a superstar right now but someone who can LEAD THE TEAM. many ROOKIES come to mind that would do a much better job!

get a decent POINT GUARD who can run PLAYS

get a CENTER. yeah it’s 2010, but you REALLY do still need a real CENTER!

then we can start building a real team

JeJe

May 4th, 2010
9:56 pm

WOODSON WILL SAY AFTER THE GM HOW THE MAGIC R DEFENDING THEIR HOME COURT. SO DOES THAT MEAN WE ARE NOT TRYING TO GET HOME COURT FROM THEM?

WOODSON OBVIOUSLY HAS NO PLAN. HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO BEAT THIS TEAM

FIRE WOODY

O'Brien

May 4th, 2010
9:57 pm

If the Hawks win 2 games against the Magic, is that enough for Woody to save his job?

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
9:57 pm

I’m sorry but Zaza is a horrible player

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
9:57 pm

I think Kevin McHale feels sorry for us…

Mystikal

May 4th, 2010
9:57 pm

Look @ Woody’s dumb A&& over on the sideline just taking than whupping, not even trying to do anything. The team has been stripped of their pride, left their ballz in ATL i guess.

NUNNA!!

May 4th, 2010
9:57 pm

WE NEED ANOTHER TEAM MEETING

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
9:59 pm

Good God. Is there no slaughter rule?

This doesn’t even define schizo. We’ve shown it in the last two years: if we get down big against this team, we just get worse and worse. You’d think we’d be trying to find any which way we could to figure out a way to not get down by so much. It’s always a boost for them. They don’t blow ANYBODY out the way they do us.

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
9:59 pm

This team is supposed to represent ATL but they’re going out like some punks.

Please can we trade teams with the Thunder. Pretty pleasssssssse

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
10:00 pm

LOL @ JeJe

YEP “defending their home court”

Fire Woody: “now we gotta try to steal one and go home and HANDLE OUR BUSINESS”
“gonna BREAK the tape down”

“etc blah blah”

Can we make him give all his salary back? CMONNN

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
10:00 pm

It is what is is.

I don’t know why I’m disappointed, because I expected it.

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
10:01 pm

steven holman said “remember its only game 1″ “hawks can use your support come out to game 3″

SIGH wtf??? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE SPORTS IN THIS TOWN??

we see CRAP leadership and put up with it for YEARS!

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
10:01 pm

64-20 run?

Joke.

Mystikal

May 4th, 2010
10:01 pm

Get a GM who doesn’t pass over guys like Chris Paul and Brandon Roy or give big contracts to underachievers like Bibby and Marvin Williams. Joe Johnson for your clutch play in the 4th quarter how does 100 million sound??

O'Brien

May 4th, 2010
10:01 pm

I dont want to hear Woody talk about defense. Because the bottom ine is we have scored 25 points since the end of the first quarter.

But hey, at least we are #4 in offensive efficiency

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
10:01 pm

Tell me why anybody should take them seriously?

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
10:02 pm

Jamal Crawford has a -36 in the +/- column. How do you do that?

I had to mention it so that when I talk about how horrid Joe Johnson plays, Northcyde’s cheese don’t slip right off his cracker…