Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 1: Offensive Talk

Hawks gotta score, too. (Curtis Compton/ccomptoon@ajc.com)

Hawks gotta score, too. (Curtis Compton/ccomptoon@ajc.com)

ORLANDO–Quoth super commenter northcyde: “Everyone is talking about doubling Howard and their shotmaking, but no one is talking about our horrendous offensive deficiencies against Orlando.”

Agreed there hasn’t been much talk about the Hawks’ offensive struggles, but Brett LaGree is on it at Hoopinion:

“[T]he dominance of Orlando’s defense against Atlanta’s offense appears not to be an issue of interest on the eve of the series. Seriously, Orlando scored 113.3 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Hawks allowed 108.3 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. Orlando scored 111.9 points per 100 possessions in the four games against the Hawks. There’s certainly no reason for the Hawks not to try and do better but they didn’t defend Orlando badly (by their standards) while losing three of four games.

Conversely, the Hawks scored 113.5 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Magic allowed 105.1 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. The Hawks scored 93.5 points per 100 possessions in the four games against Orlando. There’s massive room (and need) for improvement when the Hawks have the ball.

Granted, the Hawks held Orlando below 1 point per possession in their March 24th victory and that’s the only recent example the Hawks have of beating Orlando. However, Orlando held the Hawks below 1 point per possession each time they played this season. I don’t think it’s realistic for the Hawks, against whom, it must be remembered, Milwaukee surpassed their season offensive efficiency average in 3 of 7 playoff games, to hold Orlando to 88% of their season offensive efficiency average often enough to win a seven-game playoff series.

The Hawks are going to have to find easier ways to score against the Magic to compete in this series. If they have any new and different ideas about how to accomplish that, they’re keeping them quiet.

I’ll throw in my two cents on the topic by booting up the Synergy Sports machine, which could possibly be the Best. Thing. Ever. The Hawks’ numbers by play type in the four games against Orlando:

Isolation: 67 plays, .93 points per possession, 27/59 FG (45.7%)

P-and-R ball handler: 52 plays, .66 points per possession, 9/42 FG (21.4%)

Post-up: 50 plays, .66 points per possession, 11/37 FG(29.7%)

P-and-R roll man: 13 plays, .895 points per possession, 3/9 FG (33.3%)

Spot-up: 89 plays, .975 points per possession, 31/70 FG (44.3%)

Off screen: 17 plays, .94 points per possession, 6/15 FG (40%)

Cut: 29 plays, .94 points per possession, 12/24 FG (50%)

Offensive rebounds: 19 plays, 1.45 points per possession, 9/11 FG (82%)

Transition: 36 plays, .94 points per possession, 14/24 FG (58.3%)

All other play types: 23 plays, .23 points per possession, 2/9 FG (22.2%)

Judging by those numbers, the Hawks probably shouldn’t try Dwight Howard and Co. in the paint. No surprise there. Without looking at each play, I’m also guessing their problems with the pick-and-roll dribbler scoring has to do with venturing into Orlando’s trees. The Hawks might try getting more stuff going to the basket off pick-and-rolls and cuts, and also create more spot-up opportunities. But those kind of plays require player and/or ball movement and the Hawks seem to do commit to these concepts only intermittently.

As for the Hawks players in those four games vs. Orlando:

Johnson: 139 min., .92 points per possession
Josh Smith: 120 min., .77 points per possession
Horford: 119 min., 1.07 points per possession
Crawford: 116 min., .927 points per possession
Williams: 112 min., .965 points per possession
Bibby: 101 min., 1.18 points per possession
Evans: 61 min., 1.76 points per possession
Pachulia: 61 min., .975 points per possession
Teague:18 min., .695 points per possession
West: 13 min., 2.0 points per possession
Joe Smith: 5 min., 2 points per possession

Clearly, this means Mario should play major minutes in this series.

–I picked the Magic in 5 for the paper but now don’t feel good about it. I think it’s an overreaction after I got suckered into thinking the Hawks would have no clunkers against the Bucks and win in 5. I read too much into that last regular-season road game at Milwaukee. Now I think maybe I’m reading too much into the Game 3 surrender and Game 5 meltdown against Milwaukee. Or maybe it’s because the AJC’s Mark Bradley, 0-3 in the first round, is here for Games 1 and 2. He’s picking the Hawks in 7, so I assume he’s counting on Jeff Schultz to make the trip for the series-clincher.

But, seriously, I look at the Magic and see a team with few real weaknesses, at least not many the Hawks are capable of exploiting. Their ability to get open 3-pointers and play smothering team defense will have the Hawks on their heels all series. Still, I believe the Hawks will give a good showing and lose in six.

– Both Orlando Sentinel columnists pick the Magic. George Diaz says Magic in five but will give them a “mulligan” if they finish it in six. His colleague Mike Bianchi says the Magic should beware the Hawks, whom he thinks will lose in seven:

The Hawks have had their wake-up call, much like the Magic did last year in the opening round against Philly when the inferior 76ers jumped out to 2-1 series lead and came within a Hedo Turkoglu buzzer-beater of going ahead 3-1.

“It’s a good analogy,” Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said when I asked if the Hawks of this year remind him of the Magic of last year. “They’re coming off a first-round series in which people weren’t inspired by — same as our first-round series last year. I think there are some definite similarities between how people were talking about a year ago and how people are talking about them now.
“That doesn’t translate into this gym. We all know how good they are. We have tremendous respect for them.”

–Super commenter O’Brien says: “It will be very important for Hawks to crash the boards too. In all 4 games this season, we lost the rebounding battle (-12,-10, -9, and -10).”

Smoove hears you: “We’ve got to box people out. They shoot a lot of threes and there are going to be a lot of long rebounds, so even the guards have to come in and help out. If we gang rebound, we will be cool.”

– Apparently Pietrus is fine after turning his ankle the other day.

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

580 comments Add your comment

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
9:34 pm

Wide open 3 for Joe… brick.

NUNNA!!

May 4th, 2010
9:35 pm

is it me??
or does it also seem as though,joe’s legs might be tiring?
they showed his 40+minutes avg.in round 1..
now he is doing more pulling on his shorts and bending over every chance he gets..
and to be honest,this is what you get when you not only keep your bench from being developed but also have no type of offensive set going and you rely on iso’s,points off of turnovers or fast breaks and jump shots..

Blast

May 4th, 2010
9:35 pm

Never done this before, but switching off from Hawks and Magic right now in favor of Wild Russia.

Hawks gonna lose, game just too painful to watch. Not doing anything right all season.

Fire Woody!

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
9:35 pm

off the top of the backboard..

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
9:35 pm

Nice assist there for Crawford. That was some and-1 sh-t, passing it to Joe off the top of the backboard.

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
9:36 pm

The way Nelson uses his body to shield Smith, crazy.

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
9:36 pm

Crawford shoots the 3 off the top of the backboard.. well damn.

1-8

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
9:36 pm

lemme paste this from the other blog

Wow.

Fire Woody, and Joke Johnson at their best.

I see all of them most of the time standing around on offense. Then they take a weak fade jumper. Instead of immediately positioning for the rebound, the hawks watch the magic players run towards the rebound. Same on defense.

95% blame to Fire Woody. His fault the players are so lazy and uninspired. If they could, EACH PLAYER would tell you PLEASE get me a good coach.

So frustrating. we have JJ 6′8″. anyone seen him nasty dunk it lately? nah, layups. all our players playing well under potential and ability.

guys, woodson sucks. mike brown sucks too, for instance, but as I stated before we don’t have a player like lebron to bail out Fire Woody. Last night, the cavs didn’t have a player like lebron to bail out mike brown, and you saw what happened.

avery johnson, byron scott, anybody?? please. let joke johnson go if he doesn’t care about the team and isn’t going to lead.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
9:36 pm

The only reason I’m still watching is to see how long it’s going to take Woody to play Teague. This one is over. Joe continues to look like a mid-level exception player.

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
9:36 pm

Joe showing a little bit of fire, due to his work on the boards.

But now he’s missing free throws, even.

His body language is getting worse, though.

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
9:36 pm

Bye Bye woody.

Bye Bye Joe. Good luck being Robin.

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
9:37 pm

Pow!

Fire Woody!

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

May 4th, 2010
9:37 pm

What you have here is one group of grown men that fears another group of grown men, yet both are supposed to be top tier eastern conf teams with 50+ wins. Sickening.

The Magic treat the Hawks like they are the Nets.

Taylor

May 4th, 2010
9:37 pm

brick brick brick

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
9:37 pm

Embarrassing. Forfeit the series.

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
9:38 pm

JT0, the only reason I’m still watching this game now is to watch you.

Make it happen!

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
9:38 pm

not just jump shots.. highly contested set shots..

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
9:38 pm

Nice to see Teague… of course, he passes the ball to the black hole and it gets sucked in, never to escape.

NoleRick

May 4th, 2010
9:38 pm

JJ wants a max contract?
Down by 30?

NUNNA!!

May 4th, 2010
9:38 pm

northcyde said:
“LOL . . now people want JJ to save the team. He’s only taken 6 shots, trying to follow the game plan. Bad turnover by him right there. He simply needs to start shooting the ball.”
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northcyde,you don’t know how happy i am to hear you make that comment because i do have a question for you sir..

WHAT IS THE HAWKS GAMEPLAN??
Please not only inform me but inform us all on what the hawks game plan is….

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
9:39 pm

We’re a playoff team…

This isn’t a 1-8 matchup.

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
9:40 pm

Teague bricks. He’s been taking notes from his “betters”, I see.

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
9:40 pm

pass and stand. pass back stand..

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
9:40 pm

What is this, our point guard pressuring the other point guard defensively?

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
9:40 pm

for real doe

can we hire avery like NOW and put him in the game? I want sund to WALK ON THE COURT RIGHT NOW AND FIRE WOODY

GIVE AVERY THE CLIPBOARD

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
9:40 pm

Did anybody think the hawks could beat the Magic LOL

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
9:41 pm

Man, JT0, do YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why is Jamal still in the game? Does Woody still see him playing through his dry spell?

JeJe

May 4th, 2010
9:41 pm

WOODY UR COACHING A GREAT GAME

USE THE SAME 7 DAMN PLAYERS AND HOPE THEY SUCCEED

U ARE A !@#%$ING JOKE

THIS ETAM IS AN EMBARRASSMENT

JOE U HAVE NO BALLS U PEICE OF !#@$

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
9:41 pm

Another turnover from one of our top 2-guards. This time it’s Jamal. Two more and he join ISO-JOE is elite TO category.

JeJe

May 4th, 2010
9:41 pm

NORTHCYDE U ARE RIGHT

JOE IS PLAYING A GREAT GAME. THIS ISNT HIS FAULT
LMAO U ARE A !@#$ING JOKE. U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS TEAM. U PROBABLY THINK WOODY IS STILL COY

L

May 4th, 2010
9:42 pm

this is game is embarrasing!!!

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
9:42 pm

Dang, I sound like Venom Spitter ….LOL…

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
9:42 pm

“This isn’t a 1-8 matchup.”

Or a 2-7 for that matter. Magic-Bobcats was more competitive than this at every step of the way.

Sautee

May 4th, 2010
9:42 pm

Our “supernova” is looking more like a black hole.

d.carter

May 4th, 2010
9:43 pm

YALL THOUGHT WOODY WAS PLAYING WHEN HE SAID HE DIDNT HAVE A GAMEPLAN FOR ORLANDO… LOL HE WAS DEAD SERIOUS

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
9:44 pm

zaza on vince carter?? wtf?

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
9:44 pm

It was only a matter of time until u came to my side Big Ray LOL

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
9:44 pm

I notice that when Josh is in foul trouble, his defense isn’t the only thing that suffers. His rebounding takes a nose dive as well.

This is what happens when you let Vince get hot. He starts hitting all the really stupid shots.

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
9:45 pm

This could’ve been a much more different game had we attacked Howard after he picked up that 1st foul. It’s like our guys combined to pickup 11 fouls, but we only managed to draw one on the big guy? And the reason I think that seems sad is because he’s been getting off the ground trying to block shots, but we couldn’t draw a little contact and get him on the bench?

I said before the game, in our 4 games against the Magic this season, we haven’t cracked 90 points once. And it’s not looking as if we’ll do that here tonight either. It’s obvious our approach needs to be tweaked, because we can’t get buckets.

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
9:45 pm

LOL Zaza can even set a pick. What do the coaches teach these guys.

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
9:45 pm

LOL @ VenomSpitter

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
9:45 pm

can’t wait to hear the same ole’ nonsense in post game.. instead of one of our players just saying.. we have no offense.. and say, “we suck” like Charles said it about his Auburn Tigers on his “in my owns words” sports south special.. .

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
9:46 pm

heck idk, let’s put in SID BREAM at power forward!

since Horford isn’t allowed to play that position, anyway

O'Brien

May 4th, 2010
9:46 pm

One pass and then jump shot? Wow.

The Magic might actually double up the Hawks.

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
9:46 pm

Worst beatdown I have ever seen

Melvin

May 4th, 2010
9:46 pm

Hawks are scared to go into the paint…

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
9:46 pm

d.carter..

clearly he wasnt bull shi*in

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
9:46 pm

Also, tonight, you see the return of Joe Smith. Didn’t even know he was still on the roster…

Jason Collins got minutes.

The only problem I have with this is, if you know you’ll need them eventually (and now would be eventually), wouldn’t you have wanted to use all of those games that didn’t mean as much to have them ready for this moment?

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
9:46 pm

We have turned into fodder for ESPN and YouTube highlights. I’m ashamed right now. We look so disorganized, and we’re about to be down by 40 points.

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
9:47 pm