Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 1: Offensive Talk

Hawks gotta score, too. (Curtis Compton/ccomptoon@ajc.com)

Hawks gotta score, too. (Curtis Compton/ccomptoon@ajc.com)

ORLANDO–Quoth super commenter northcyde: “Everyone is talking about doubling Howard and their shotmaking, but no one is talking about our horrendous offensive deficiencies against Orlando.”

Agreed there hasn’t been much talk about the Hawks’ offensive struggles, but Brett LaGree is on it at Hoopinion:

“[T]he dominance of Orlando’s defense against Atlanta’s offense appears not to be an issue of interest on the eve of the series. Seriously, Orlando scored 113.3 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Hawks allowed 108.3 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. Orlando scored 111.9 points per 100 possessions in the four games against the Hawks. There’s certainly no reason for the Hawks not to try and do better but they didn’t defend Orlando badly (by their standards) while losing three of four games.

Conversely, the Hawks scored 113.5 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Magic allowed 105.1 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. The Hawks scored 93.5 points per 100 possessions in the four games against Orlando. There’s massive room (and need) for improvement when the Hawks have the ball.

Granted, the Hawks held Orlando below 1 point per possession in their March 24th victory and that’s the only recent example the Hawks have of beating Orlando. However, Orlando held the Hawks below 1 point per possession each time they played this season. I don’t think it’s realistic for the Hawks, against whom, it must be remembered, Milwaukee surpassed their season offensive efficiency average in 3 of 7 playoff games, to hold Orlando to 88% of their season offensive efficiency average often enough to win a seven-game playoff series.

The Hawks are going to have to find easier ways to score against the Magic to compete in this series. If they have any new and different ideas about how to accomplish that, they’re keeping them quiet.

I’ll throw in my two cents on the topic by booting up the Synergy Sports machine, which could possibly be the Best. Thing. Ever. The Hawks’ numbers by play type in the four games against Orlando:

Isolation: 67 plays, .93 points per possession, 27/59 FG (45.7%)

P-and-R ball handler: 52 plays, .66 points per possession, 9/42 FG (21.4%)

Post-up: 50 plays, .66 points per possession, 11/37 FG(29.7%)

P-and-R roll man: 13 plays, .895 points per possession, 3/9 FG (33.3%)

Spot-up: 89 plays, .975 points per possession, 31/70 FG (44.3%)

Off screen: 17 plays, .94 points per possession, 6/15 FG (40%)

Cut: 29 plays, .94 points per possession, 12/24 FG (50%)

Offensive rebounds: 19 plays, 1.45 points per possession, 9/11 FG (82%)

Transition: 36 plays, .94 points per possession, 14/24 FG (58.3%)

All other play types: 23 plays, .23 points per possession, 2/9 FG (22.2%)

Judging by those numbers, the Hawks probably shouldn’t try Dwight Howard and Co. in the paint. No surprise there. Without looking at each play, I’m also guessing their problems with the pick-and-roll dribbler scoring has to do with venturing into Orlando’s trees. The Hawks might try getting more stuff going to the basket off pick-and-rolls and cuts, and also create more spot-up opportunities. But those kind of plays require player and/or ball movement and the Hawks seem to do commit to these concepts only intermittently.

As for the Hawks players in those four games vs. Orlando:

Johnson: 139 min., .92 points per possession
Josh Smith: 120 min., .77 points per possession
Horford: 119 min., 1.07 points per possession
Crawford: 116 min., .927 points per possession
Williams: 112 min., .965 points per possession
Bibby: 101 min., 1.18 points per possession
Evans: 61 min., 1.76 points per possession
Pachulia: 61 min., .975 points per possession
Teague:18 min., .695 points per possession
West: 13 min., 2.0 points per possession
Joe Smith: 5 min., 2 points per possession

Clearly, this means Mario should play major minutes in this series.

–I picked the Magic in 5 for the paper but now don’t feel good about it. I think it’s an overreaction after I got suckered into thinking the Hawks would have no clunkers against the Bucks and win in 5. I read too much into that last regular-season road game at Milwaukee. Now I think maybe I’m reading too much into the Game 3 surrender and Game 5 meltdown against Milwaukee. Or maybe it’s because the AJC’s Mark Bradley, 0-3 in the first round, is here for Games 1 and 2. He’s picking the Hawks in 7, so I assume he’s counting on Jeff Schultz to make the trip for the series-clincher.

But, seriously, I look at the Magic and see a team with few real weaknesses, at least not many the Hawks are capable of exploiting. Their ability to get open 3-pointers and play smothering team defense will have the Hawks on their heels all series. Still, I believe the Hawks will give a good showing and lose in six.

– Both Orlando Sentinel columnists pick the Magic. George Diaz says Magic in five but will give them a “mulligan” if they finish it in six. His colleague Mike Bianchi says the Magic should beware the Hawks, whom he thinks will lose in seven:

The Hawks have had their wake-up call, much like the Magic did last year in the opening round against Philly when the inferior 76ers jumped out to 2-1 series lead and came within a Hedo Turkoglu buzzer-beater of going ahead 3-1.

“It’s a good analogy,” Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said when I asked if the Hawks of this year remind him of the Magic of last year. “They’re coming off a first-round series in which people weren’t inspired by — same as our first-round series last year. I think there are some definite similarities between how people were talking about a year ago and how people are talking about them now.
“That doesn’t translate into this gym. We all know how good they are. We have tremendous respect for them.”

–Super commenter O’Brien says: “It will be very important for Hawks to crash the boards too. In all 4 games this season, we lost the rebounding battle (-12,-10, -9, and -10).”

Smoove hears you: “We’ve got to box people out. They shoot a lot of threes and there are going to be a lot of long rebounds, so even the guards have to come in and help out. If we gang rebound, we will be cool.”

– Apparently Pietrus is fine after turning his ankle the other day.

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

580 comments Add your comment

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
8:44 pm

guys have to be ready to score.. sheesh..

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:44 pm

If I’m Woodson, I can live with the occasional Howard dunk over Horford. He is going to get his every now and then, but over the course of the game I still think Horford can handle him one-on-one.

O'Brien

May 4th, 2010
8:44 pm

8-0 run by Dwight. And here we go. This is one of the runs that northcyde talks about…

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
8:44 pm

What happenened to all the screens we were setting?
All the movement?

We’re getting careless…

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
8:44 pm

showboat shawty.

Taylor

May 4th, 2010
8:45 pm

well it looks like we are on our way to a 20 point blow out

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:45 pm

Well the blowout begins

Too bad I thought the hawks would compete

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
8:45 pm

They’ve set up what they’ve wanted…

There’s not one person on our team that can go hard at Dwight?

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:45 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:45 pm

Another double, another 3.

The Hawks’ terrible offense has let the Magic take this lead. There will be no end in sight unless they start moving the ball. This one is getting ugly.

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:45 pm

Blast

May 4th, 2010
8:45 pm

Here comes the rout!

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
8:45 pm

That was quick

steven

May 4th, 2010
8:46 pm

and here comes the lull we can’t afford to have…some things never change

O'Brien

May 4th, 2010
8:46 pm

13-0 run by the Magic. And the crowd is into it.

Bad defense by the Hawks. Hopefully Woody and the players can “adjust on the fly”

northcyde

May 4th, 2010
8:46 pm

Wow Craw . . . you let JASON WILLIAMS steal the ball from you?

13 – 0 run by the Magic . . . this is what they do folks.

This is why it is so important for JJ and Craw to really make shots. We’re not going to get anything easy on the inside. Those two are going to have to get up shots, along with Smoove driving, to get us back in this.

Melvin

May 4th, 2010
8:46 pm

Good timeout. Time to regroup…

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:47 pm

LMAO When is the last time Woody has “adjusted oon the fly”

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:47 pm

Jason Heyward just got intentionally walked for the first time this season. That kid is a monster.

northcyde

May 4th, 2010
8:47 pm

Najeh . . it’s pick your poison. We have NO ONE who can guard Dwight, and he’s racking up the fouls on us by the boatload.

It’s either . . or

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:47 pm

What the hell is Joe Johnson doing?

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:47 pm

Another blowout

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:48 pm

Josh cant even make a layup

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:48 pm

“Najeh . . it’s pick your poison. We have NO ONE who can guard Dwight, and he’s racking up the fouls on us by the boatload. ”

I’d rather let Dwight score 40 and lose than let the Magic 3-point shooters heat up. Let Howard dunk every time if he has to.

And anyway, right now the offense is a bigger problem than the defense.

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:49 pm

Lets be real nobody thought the Hawks could actually win right

Blast

May 4th, 2010
8:49 pm

What is wrong with Joe? Out of a timeout, he had an open three, then passed it up to force a turnover throwing the ball inside? 15-0 run!

Hawks, play with pride and smarts!

Melvin

May 4th, 2010
8:49 pm

Yep. Here come Venom Spitter flip flopping again….

northcyde

May 4th, 2010
8:49 pm

It’s nothing coaching can do about this. These guys are going to have to make shots, and defend on the other end. Too many turnovers and wasted possessions this quarter.

At this point, we just have to hope to get it down to aruond 7 at halftime, and work from there.

But this is why Orlando is good. It’s no secret.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:50 pm

And anyway, besides that dunk Howard had a few possessions ago, Horford has done a pretty good job on him when he’s been in the game. As was the case all season, it’s the double team that has absolutely killed the Hawks. The Magic share the ball too efficiently to be doing that.

O'Brien

May 4th, 2010
8:50 pm

Why are we not fouling Dwight? Thats 2 easy looks he has had.

My observation of the Hawks. When they come out of the timeout, Woody tells them what play to run. However, its like thats the only play the know. Because JJ is going out of his way to try and get the ball to Horford…which results in a turnover.

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:50 pm

What happened is Joe is not a primetime elite player like I’ve been saying. He shrinks in big games. I don’t know why ya’ll think he’s gonna bail the hawks out. He’s not a superstar.

Kiki

May 4th, 2010
8:50 pm

Orlando’s run is supported on the shooters. Guard the shooters and let Horford alone with D12. God!!!

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:51 pm

Melvin stfu talking to me.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:51 pm

“It’s nothing coaching can do about this. These guys are going to have to make shots, and defend on the other end. Too many turnovers and wasted possessions this quarter.”

Too much standing around and playing one-on-five this quarter. The Orlando run started as soon as the Hawks started playing their standing around, dribble-dribble-dribble, isolation half-court offense.

Melvin

May 4th, 2010
8:51 pm

It would be nice to have a PG that will handle the ball and put guys in a position to score.

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
8:51 pm

the only time our offense looks worth anything is if guys are on fire. otherwise.. its wishing for buckets.

northcyde

May 4th, 2010
8:51 pm

Najeh . . that’s still a losing formula to let Dwight score 40 though. Plus he’ll foul out all of our big men in the process.

They just have to mix up the defenses and hope the Magic shooters go cold, so that we can get back in this.

Melvin

May 4th, 2010
8:52 pm

I like the move by AL…

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:52 pm

The Hawks may have gotten some lucky buckets early, but they are getting really unlucky around the rim lately.

NUNNA!!

May 4th, 2010
8:52 pm

can’t blame for this game now..
unless you look at how he and the staff has them playing with a stalled offense in the half court game..lets get some ball movement with a few more cutting from the guys and now would be a great time to put in TEAGUE..

WE’RE PLAYING DEFENSE..AND NOT MAKING THE MAGIC WORK ON THE DEFENSIVE END!!
ITS JUST HOWARD WITH THE BLOCK OR THE REBOUND AND OFF THEY GO!!

Kiki

May 4th, 2010
8:52 pm

If the Bobcats were able to get D12 into foul trouble, why can the Hawks? is it so hard to do for them?

Melvin

May 4th, 2010
8:52 pm

Josh came to play tonight…

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:53 pm

Nice transition and-one opportunity for Smoove. They need more transition buckets, and in order to do that they need better rebounding (which they did not have during that run).

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:53 pm

Damn Bibby defense is horrible

Melvin

May 4th, 2010
8:54 pm

How the hell did he call that foul on Josh…

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:54 pm

Three fouls on Smoove. Orlando’s ball movement is too good. That was directly caused by Bibby’s slow defensive rotation. He’s been a liability all game on both ends of the floor.

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
8:54 pm

We’ve got 11 fouls between our bigs, and Howard’s got one?

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:54 pm

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:55 pm

Seriously wat is hard to understand about staying on ya man

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:55 pm

These last three and a half minutes will determine whether the rest of the game is competitive or not. The Hawks’ time to make a run is now.

Lazy mid-range bricks by Joe are not going to get the job done.