Hawks gotta score, too. (Curtis Compton/ccomptoon@ajc.com)
ORLANDO–Quoth super commenter northcyde: “Everyone is talking about doubling Howard and their shotmaking, but no one is talking about our horrendous offensive deficiencies against Orlando.”
Agreed there hasn’t been much talk about the Hawks’ offensive struggles, but Brett LaGree is on it at Hoopinion:
“[T]he dominance of Orlando’s defense against Atlanta’s offense appears not to be an issue of interest on the eve of the series. Seriously, Orlando scored 113.3 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Hawks allowed 108.3 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. Orlando scored 111.9 points per 100 possessions in the four games against the Hawks. There’s certainly no reason for the Hawks not to try and do better but they didn’t defend Orlando badly (by their standards) while losing three of four games.
Conversely, the Hawks scored 113.5 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Magic allowed 105.1 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. The Hawks scored 93.5 points per 100 possessions in the four games against Orlando. There’s massive room (and need) for improvement when the Hawks have the ball.
Granted, the Hawks held Orlando below 1 point per possession in their March 24th victory and that’s the only recent example the Hawks have of beating Orlando. However, Orlando held the Hawks below 1 point per possession each time they played this season. I don’t think it’s realistic for the Hawks, against whom, it must be remembered, Milwaukee surpassed their season offensive efficiency average in 3 of 7 playoff games, to hold Orlando to 88% of their season offensive efficiency average often enough to win a seven-game playoff series.
The Hawks are going to have to find easier ways to score against the Magic to compete in this series. If they have any new and different ideas about how to accomplish that, they’re keeping them quiet.
I’ll throw in my two cents on the topic by booting up the Synergy Sports machine, which could possibly be the Best. Thing. Ever. The Hawks’ numbers by play type in the four games against Orlando:
Isolation: 67 plays, .93 points per possession, 27/59 FG (45.7%)
P-and-R ball handler: 52 plays, .66 points per possession, 9/42 FG (21.4%)
Post-up: 50 plays, .66 points per possession, 11/37 FG(29.7%)
P-and-R roll man: 13 plays, .895 points per possession, 3/9 FG (33.3%)
Spot-up: 89 plays, .975 points per possession, 31/70 FG (44.3%)
Off screen: 17 plays, .94 points per possession, 6/15 FG (40%)
Cut: 29 plays, .94 points per possession, 12/24 FG (50%)
Offensive rebounds: 19 plays, 1.45 points per possession, 9/11 FG (82%)
Transition: 36 plays, .94 points per possession, 14/24 FG (58.3%)
All other play types: 23 plays, .23 points per possession, 2/9 FG (22.2%)
Judging by those numbers, the Hawks probably shouldn’t try Dwight Howard and Co. in the paint. No surprise there. Without looking at each play, I’m also guessing their problems with the pick-and-roll dribbler scoring has to do with venturing into Orlando’s trees. The Hawks might try getting more stuff going to the basket off pick-and-rolls and cuts, and also create more spot-up opportunities. But those kind of plays require player and/or ball movement and the Hawks seem to do commit to these concepts only intermittently.
As for the Hawks players in those four games vs. Orlando:
Johnson: 139 min., .92 points per possession
Josh Smith: 120 min., .77 points per possession
Horford: 119 min., 1.07 points per possession
Crawford: 116 min., .927 points per possession
Williams: 112 min., .965 points per possession
Bibby: 101 min., 1.18 points per possession
Evans: 61 min., 1.76 points per possession
Pachulia: 61 min., .975 points per possession
Teague:18 min., .695 points per possession
West: 13 min., 2.0 points per possession
Joe Smith: 5 min., 2 points per possession
Clearly, this means Mario should play major minutes in this series.
–I picked the Magic in 5 for the paper but now don’t feel good about it. I think it’s an overreaction after I got suckered into thinking the Hawks would have no clunkers against the Bucks and win in 5. I read too much into that last regular-season road game at Milwaukee. Now I think maybe I’m reading too much into the Game 3 surrender and Game 5 meltdown against Milwaukee. Or maybe it’s because the AJC’s Mark Bradley, 0-3 in the first round, is here for Games 1 and 2. He’s picking the Hawks in 7, so I assume he’s counting on Jeff Schultz to make the trip for the series-clincher.
But, seriously, I look at the Magic and see a team with few real weaknesses, at least not many the Hawks are capable of exploiting. Their ability to get open 3-pointers and play smothering team defense will have the Hawks on their heels all series. Still, I believe the Hawks will give a good showing and lose in six.
– Both Orlando Sentinel columnists pick the Magic. George Diaz says Magic in five but will give them a “mulligan” if they finish it in six. His colleague Mike Bianchi says the Magic should beware the Hawks, whom he thinks will lose in seven:
The Hawks have had their wake-up call, much like the Magic did last year in the opening round against Philly when the inferior 76ers jumped out to 2-1 series lead and came within a Hedo Turkoglu buzzer-beater of going ahead 3-1.
“It’s a good analogy,” Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said when I asked if the Hawks of this year remind him of the Magic of last year. “They’re coming off a first-round series in which people weren’t inspired by — same as our first-round series last year. I think there are some definite similarities between how people were talking about a year ago and how people are talking about them now.
“That doesn’t translate into this gym. We all know how good they are. We have tremendous respect for them.”
–Super commenter O’Brien says: “It will be very important for Hawks to crash the boards too. In all 4 games this season, we lost the rebounding battle (-12,-10, -9, and -10).”
Smoove hears you: “We’ve got to box people out. They shoot a lot of threes and there are going to be a lot of long rebounds, so even the guards have to come in and help out. If we gang rebound, we will be cool.”
– Apparently Pietrus is fine after turning his ankle the other day.
– I’m out, Hawks fans.
MC
580 comments Add your comment
Taylor
May 4th, 2010
8:26 pm
another foul?,,,,
Taylor
May 4th, 2010
8:27 pm
and another…
O'Brien
May 4th, 2010
8:27 pm
Oh oh. Josh with 2 fouls, and he was off to such a great start…
bigdave
May 4th, 2010
8:27 pm
people.. u should see how they let Sheed.. KG.. Shaq.. etc. guard him.. this is crazy.. and this is playoff officiating..
VenomSpitter
May 4th, 2010
8:27 pm
zaza is afraid of haward even getting it
Najeh Davenpoop
May 4th, 2010
8:28 pm
Here’s another problem with Hack-a-Dwight — if you blatantly employ that strategy, the refs start assuming you are going to foul, and at some point you are going to get whistled for it even when you play legitimate D. Refs in the NBA are bad enough already without giving them another excuse to cut corners.
Of course the biggest problem is when he actually starts making them, like he has so far.
Wabe
May 4th, 2010
8:28 pm
sleepy makes a lot of sense.
Guys need to cut to the hole when that defense starts collapsing in the paint.
Taylor
May 4th, 2010
8:29 pm
we have some real garbage baskets so far lol
Najeh Davenpoop
May 4th, 2010
8:29 pm
Half court offense is struggling a little with no Smoove or Horford on the floor. Too much perimeter and too many jump shots.
Taylor
May 4th, 2010
8:30 pm
holding our own so far
Najeh Davenpoop
May 4th, 2010
8:31 pm
Very good first quarter so far, but in the 2nd they need to start working to get some fouls going their way. First order of business needs to start driving it at Howard again and pick up that 2nd foul on him.
O'Brien
May 4th, 2010
8:32 pm
Najeh,
Another issue with Hack-A-Dwight, is you get into penalty quick. And Biby will have to commit a foul on whoever is driving by him (to be fair, other Hawks will commit fouls too), and the Magic are good FT shooters…
Sautee
May 4th, 2010
8:32 pm
We need to come back with Al at the 4 with Zaza.
bigdave
May 4th, 2010
8:33 pm
Al and Za Za play well together..
sleepy
May 4th, 2010
8:34 pm
nice first quarter and we need to make Dwight pay for helping like zaza did. Whioever Howard is guarding should average 15 pts and 10 boards and they should all be on offensive rebounds and put backs lol . Its an incredible amount of hustle required but if you want to make that name for yourself …hey
Najeh Davenpoop
May 4th, 2010
8:34 pm
Joe Smith is a big-time defensive liability at power forward — he can’t switch on the perimeter, and he’s not quick enough to guard Rashard Lewis. I would consider playing Marvin at PF and Mo Evans at SF.
Taylor
May 4th, 2010
8:35 pm
posterized
VenomSpitter
May 4th, 2010
8:35 pm
Well I knew that was gonna happen
Taylor
May 4th, 2010
8:35 pm
another garbage basket lol
northcyde
May 4th, 2010
8:36 pm
Zaza being a “force”. I like his activity on both ends of the floor.
Melvin
May 4th, 2010
8:36 pm
ZaZa is committing some stupid fouls…
VenomSpitter
May 4th, 2010
8:36 pm
Man Zaza don’t foul him b4 he gets the ball
Blast
May 4th, 2010
8:37 pm
Hawks can’t keep fouling Dwight off the ball, man!
Wabe
May 4th, 2010
8:37 pm
Man, someone needs to get into Howard’s body and draw that 2nd foul.
Taylor
May 4th, 2010
8:37 pm
you let reddick go to the hole????????
northcyde
May 4th, 2010
8:37 pm
What happened to Smoove? When I started watching, Smoove already had an ice pack on his cheek
VenomSpitter
May 4th, 2010
8:37 pm
Zaza is obviuosly scared
Najeh Davenpoop
May 4th, 2010
8:37 pm
Marvin is playing well. Hits the J one time down, picks up the foul on Pietrus the next. I’d actually like to see him take it strong at Howard and hope for the foul.
Taylor
May 4th, 2010
8:37 pm
That was UGLY
Wabe
May 4th, 2010
8:38 pm
You’re playing right into what they wanna do if you double…
Najeh Davenpoop
May 4th, 2010
8:38 pm
Howard gets doubled, Redick hits the 3. DON’T DOUBLE!
VenomSpitter
May 4th, 2010
8:38 pm
Uh oh here we go with the 3
well atleast the hawks were in it this long
Blast
May 4th, 2010
8:39 pm
That’s how they beat you. You double Howard, don’t rotate out quick enough to shooters when they swing the ball, and bang! 3 point shot!
northcyde
May 4th, 2010
8:39 pm
JJ Redick . . that’s the one you can’t leave open. Let Pietrus shoot that corner jumper, but don’t leave Redick wide open.
Good TO by Woody. Time to get JJ back in.
Najeh Davenpoop
May 4th, 2010
8:39 pm
Right now, Crawford and Marvin are the only real offensive threats on the floor. One or the other has to get it going. Either Marvin needs to start driving and drawing fouls, or Crawford has to start hitting shots. If the bench is going to buy time for the starters in this game, someone’s gotta score.
steven
May 4th, 2010
8:40 pm
quite possibly the worst lineup the hawks have ever had on the floor
Blast
May 4th, 2010
8:40 pm
Josh got 2 fouls, and a big time Howard elbow to the head.
northcyde
May 4th, 2010
8:40 pm
The double has to take place sometimes though, because that will protect our big men from accumulating fouls. LOL . . and you see the situation we’re in already.
sleepy
May 4th, 2010
8:41 pm
Our offense really is bad . So we just allow Dwight to rest on defense while helping everyone ? IS WOODY CRAZY ? Howard hasnt rested yet I would involve him in as many plays as I could away from the basket as he tires he will pick up a couple of fouls .
Apparently we think Marvin vs there best perimeter defender (Pietrus ) is a better matchup than Craw vs Jason Williams lol Oh Woody ……….
O'Brien
May 4th, 2010
8:41 pm
northcyde,
He got elbowed by D12.
Jamal needs to get it going. He is 0-3 so far…
VenomSpitter
May 4th, 2010
8:41 pm
Woody better do somethin b4 this turns into a blowout. And ues the Magic can blowout the hawks in just 1 minute.
VenomSpitter
May 4th, 2010
8:41 pm
ues=yes
bigdave
May 4th, 2010
8:42 pm
you dont have to foul Dwight to guard him.. given way to much respect.. those 3 bombs are killers.
Najeh Davenpoop
May 4th, 2010
8:42 pm
Good foul by Evans. Don’t let Howard get the dunk.
Wabe
May 4th, 2010
8:43 pm
We need to keep this thing tight…
Najeh Davenpoop
May 4th, 2010
8:43 pm
“quite possibly the worst lineup the hawks have ever had on the floor”
Ever? I’m a little partial to Ivey-Diaw-Harrington-Walker-Drobnjak
O'Brien
May 4th, 2010
8:43 pm
Hawks need a bucket next time down…
VenomSpitter
May 4th, 2010
8:43 pm
wat kinda pass was that Joe
northcyde
May 4th, 2010
8:44 pm
Good idea by JJ . . just too much heat on the ball for Horford to handle.
Taylor
May 4th, 2010
8:44 pm
our offense is yuck yuck