Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 1: Offensive Talk

Hawks gotta score, too. (Curtis Compton/ccomptoon@ajc.com)

Hawks gotta score, too. (Curtis Compton/ccomptoon@ajc.com)

ORLANDO–Quoth super commenter northcyde: “Everyone is talking about doubling Howard and their shotmaking, but no one is talking about our horrendous offensive deficiencies against Orlando.”

Agreed there hasn’t been much talk about the Hawks’ offensive struggles, but Brett LaGree is on it at Hoopinion:

“[T]he dominance of Orlando’s defense against Atlanta’s offense appears not to be an issue of interest on the eve of the series. Seriously, Orlando scored 113.3 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Hawks allowed 108.3 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. Orlando scored 111.9 points per 100 possessions in the four games against the Hawks. There’s certainly no reason for the Hawks not to try and do better but they didn’t defend Orlando badly (by their standards) while losing three of four games.

Conversely, the Hawks scored 113.5 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Magic allowed 105.1 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. The Hawks scored 93.5 points per 100 possessions in the four games against Orlando. There’s massive room (and need) for improvement when the Hawks have the ball.

Granted, the Hawks held Orlando below 1 point per possession in their March 24th victory and that’s the only recent example the Hawks have of beating Orlando. However, Orlando held the Hawks below 1 point per possession each time they played this season. I don’t think it’s realistic for the Hawks, against whom, it must be remembered, Milwaukee surpassed their season offensive efficiency average in 3 of 7 playoff games, to hold Orlando to 88% of their season offensive efficiency average often enough to win a seven-game playoff series.

The Hawks are going to have to find easier ways to score against the Magic to compete in this series. If they have any new and different ideas about how to accomplish that, they’re keeping them quiet.

I’ll throw in my two cents on the topic by booting up the Synergy Sports machine, which could possibly be the Best. Thing. Ever. The Hawks’ numbers by play type in the four games against Orlando:

Isolation: 67 plays, .93 points per possession, 27/59 FG (45.7%)

P-and-R ball handler: 52 plays, .66 points per possession, 9/42 FG (21.4%)

Post-up: 50 plays, .66 points per possession, 11/37 FG(29.7%)

P-and-R roll man: 13 plays, .895 points per possession, 3/9 FG (33.3%)

Spot-up: 89 plays, .975 points per possession, 31/70 FG (44.3%)

Off screen: 17 plays, .94 points per possession, 6/15 FG (40%)

Cut: 29 plays, .94 points per possession, 12/24 FG (50%)

Offensive rebounds: 19 plays, 1.45 points per possession, 9/11 FG (82%)

Transition: 36 plays, .94 points per possession, 14/24 FG (58.3%)

All other play types: 23 plays, .23 points per possession, 2/9 FG (22.2%)

Judging by those numbers, the Hawks probably shouldn’t try Dwight Howard and Co. in the paint. No surprise there. Without looking at each play, I’m also guessing their problems with the pick-and-roll dribbler scoring has to do with venturing into Orlando’s trees. The Hawks might try getting more stuff going to the basket off pick-and-rolls and cuts, and also create more spot-up opportunities. But those kind of plays require player and/or ball movement and the Hawks seem to do commit to these concepts only intermittently.

As for the Hawks players in those four games vs. Orlando:

Johnson: 139 min., .92 points per possession
Josh Smith: 120 min., .77 points per possession
Horford: 119 min., 1.07 points per possession
Crawford: 116 min., .927 points per possession
Williams: 112 min., .965 points per possession
Bibby: 101 min., 1.18 points per possession
Evans: 61 min., 1.76 points per possession
Pachulia: 61 min., .975 points per possession
Teague:18 min., .695 points per possession
West: 13 min., 2.0 points per possession
Joe Smith: 5 min., 2 points per possession

Clearly, this means Mario should play major minutes in this series.

–I picked the Magic in 5 for the paper but now don’t feel good about it. I think it’s an overreaction after I got suckered into thinking the Hawks would have no clunkers against the Bucks and win in 5. I read too much into that last regular-season road game at Milwaukee. Now I think maybe I’m reading too much into the Game 3 surrender and Game 5 meltdown against Milwaukee. Or maybe it’s because the AJC’s Mark Bradley, 0-3 in the first round, is here for Games 1 and 2. He’s picking the Hawks in 7, so I assume he’s counting on Jeff Schultz to make the trip for the series-clincher.

But, seriously, I look at the Magic and see a team with few real weaknesses, at least not many the Hawks are capable of exploiting. Their ability to get open 3-pointers and play smothering team defense will have the Hawks on their heels all series. Still, I believe the Hawks will give a good showing and lose in six.

– Both Orlando Sentinel columnists pick the Magic. George Diaz says Magic in five but will give them a “mulligan” if they finish it in six. His colleague Mike Bianchi says the Magic should beware the Hawks, whom he thinks will lose in seven:

The Hawks have had their wake-up call, much like the Magic did last year in the opening round against Philly when the inferior 76ers jumped out to 2-1 series lead and came within a Hedo Turkoglu buzzer-beater of going ahead 3-1.

“It’s a good analogy,” Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said when I asked if the Hawks of this year remind him of the Magic of last year. “They’re coming off a first-round series in which people weren’t inspired by — same as our first-round series last year. I think there are some definite similarities between how people were talking about a year ago and how people are talking about them now.
“That doesn’t translate into this gym. We all know how good they are. We have tremendous respect for them.”

–Super commenter O’Brien says: “It will be very important for Hawks to crash the boards too. In all 4 games this season, we lost the rebounding battle (-12,-10, -9, and -10).”

Smoove hears you: “We’ve got to box people out. They shoot a lot of threes and there are going to be a lot of long rebounds, so even the guards have to come in and help out. If we gang rebound, we will be cool.”

– Apparently Pietrus is fine after turning his ankle the other day.

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

580 comments Add your comment

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
8:08 pm

keep switching and we’ll use Al our fouls on guards instead of Howard..

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:08 pm

TERRIFIC move by Horford right over Howard.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:09 pm

Bibby doubles Howard and Nelson gets an open lane to the hoop, and on the next possession Horford plays Howard straight up and denies him the shot. I think Horford can handle Howard on his own. I’d rather not see guys like Nelson get going.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:10 pm

That looked like a pretty BS foul on Bibby to me…

Taylor

May 4th, 2010
8:10 pm

2 fouls, that disn’t take long

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:12 pm

Collins is in the game, and it almost looks like the refs were waiting to blow the whistle from the time he entered. 2 fouls on him in like 10 seconds.

If he was supposed to pick up 2 fouls on Howard in 10 seconds, I’m not a huge fan of that strategy… it just gets the Magic closer to the bonus, and it’s not like the Magic were having a great offensive game so far.

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
8:12 pm

Can Collins get a call?

Seriously?

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
8:12 pm

here they go with the cheap stuff.. lack of respect for us.. they’ll let Howard bang and battle with any other teams bigs across the league.. ours get called with the petty stuff.. u cant touch him.. cant do your work early.. your hands are tied..

Woodson giving Howard the Kareem/ Hakeem treatment.. then Howard fouls Collins.. no call..

Taylor

May 4th, 2010
8:13 pm

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:13 pm

Elbows of Doom

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:13 pm

Foul #1 on Howard after Josh takes an elbow to the grill. That foul looked legit too, not a whole lot of flopping involved as far as I could see.

Blast

May 4th, 2010
8:13 pm

1st Howard elbowed Jason Collins, got away with it, but they caught him on another elbow foul on Josh.

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
8:14 pm

Horford’s gonna be special if he can get his footwork on point in the paint.

That last move he pulled on Howard was a thing of beauty.

mark

May 4th, 2010
8:15 pm

i know this a hawks post i don’t want to hear nothing about lebron’s elbow. for all the calls he get. the hell with his elbow

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:16 pm

I like the intensity so far from the players. Not a huge fan of the excessive perimeter switching and the early Hack-a-Dwight strategy, but I am a fan of the concerted effort to get the ball inside early on offense.

Taylor

May 4th, 2010
8:16 pm

can’t leave the shooters open….

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
8:17 pm

You gotta fly into Howard’s body.

Try and draw that 2nd foul.

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:17 pm

OMG stay on the 3 pt shooters u idiots

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
8:17 pm

Are we running sets?

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:17 pm

You CANNOT switch when you have the backup big guys in the game. Rashard Lewis for 3, mainly because Collins had to switch onto a driving Nelson.

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:17 pm

Marvin wtf was that

Taylor

May 4th, 2010
8:17 pm

Silly Duck SMH!

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
8:18 pm

It’s like every shot we’ve gotten JJ in this quarter has been off a screen.

sleepy

May 4th, 2010
8:18 pm

oh marvin self checks wow

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:18 pm

Taylor

May 4th, 2010
8:18 pm

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
8:18 pm

play Collins..!

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:19 pm

Man Josh stop taking long jumpers. wtf is wrong wit him.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:19 pm

Lucky bounce makes up for Smoove’s terrible decision to shoot another out of rhythm jump shot.

Taylor

May 4th, 2010
8:19 pm

What a move!!!

Blast

May 4th, 2010
8:19 pm

Josh playing great on both ends!

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
8:19 pm

Damn, we’re looking good.

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
8:19 pm

keep letting ur bigs defend guards Woodson…

smh..

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:20 pm

That time, the Hawks didn’t use switching, and Collins was able to help out (along with Josh) inside. If the Hawks abandon the switch, Collins and the other backup big men can be real defensive assets.

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:20 pm

Enter your comments hereWhy does Josh think shooting long jumpers is good

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
8:20 pm

that could’ve easily been Josh’s 2nd.. he’s fouled Vince on a previous possession..

Blast

May 4th, 2010
8:20 pm

But for that last jumper, of course.

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:21 pm

Josh should be driving becuz he gets positive results wen he does

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:21 pm

LOVE the intensity from the Hawks! They are playing like they did in the first half of Game 1 and Game 7 against Milwaukee.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:21 pm

That’s 2 on Josh Smith. Too early for that, especially on a rebound. Gotta box out folks…

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
8:22 pm

J.Smith is on point.

Blast

May 4th, 2010
8:23 pm

Yeah, love Hawks intensity. Jason Collins doing great work, even with two fouls. Josh with two fouls, though. Not good.

sleepy

May 4th, 2010
8:23 pm

where are the cutters ? Jamal turns the corner you know Howard is coming to challenge someone has to cut to the basket with the dribbler cant stand on the perimeter . Cant beat them by trying to chuck threes with them.

Sautee

May 4th, 2010
8:23 pm

So far we are COMPETING

Samuel

May 4th, 2010
8:25 pm

Nique>McHale

drmaryb

May 4th, 2010
8:26 pm

Hawks playin Hard!

--7 kevin--

May 4th, 2010
8:26 pm

7’s in da house!
I am excited that coach is finally listening to everyone on this blog and utilizing his bench already.
Now with josh in foul trouble we need to get joe smith in the lineup as well as run some iso’s for teague on nelson.
Not each and every time like the iso joe and iso jamaal,but when he comes in set up a few screens for him and set up some iso’s for his to drive to da hoop or dish it off.let it be his choice
And,this would be the perfect series to have horford at the PF with collins or randmo at center

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2010
8:26 pm

“where are the cutters ? ”

I agree. If there is one gripe I have so far it is that the Hawks are not moving enough off the ball in the half court offense. That plays into the Magic’s hands defensively.

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
8:26 pm

Zaza’s turn…

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
8:26 pm

Minimize d umb plays like that 1