Hawks gotta score, too. (Curtis Compton/ccomptoon@ajc.com)
ORLANDO–Quoth super commenter northcyde: “Everyone is talking about doubling Howard and their shotmaking, but no one is talking about our horrendous offensive deficiencies against Orlando.”
Agreed there hasn’t been much talk about the Hawks’ offensive struggles, but Brett LaGree is on it at Hoopinion:
“[T]he dominance of Orlando’s defense against Atlanta’s offense appears not to be an issue of interest on the eve of the series. Seriously, Orlando scored 113.3 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Hawks allowed 108.3 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. Orlando scored 111.9 points per 100 possessions in the four games against the Hawks. There’s certainly no reason for the Hawks not to try and do better but they didn’t defend Orlando badly (by their standards) while losing three of four games.
Conversely, the Hawks scored 113.5 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Magic allowed 105.1 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. The Hawks scored 93.5 points per 100 possessions in the four games against Orlando. There’s massive room (and need) for improvement when the Hawks have the ball.
Granted, the Hawks held Orlando below 1 point per possession in their March 24th victory and that’s the only recent example the Hawks have of beating Orlando. However, Orlando held the Hawks below 1 point per possession each time they played this season. I don’t think it’s realistic for the Hawks, against whom, it must be remembered, Milwaukee surpassed their season offensive efficiency average in 3 of 7 playoff games, to hold Orlando to 88% of their season offensive efficiency average often enough to win a seven-game playoff series.
The Hawks are going to have to find easier ways to score against the Magic to compete in this series. If they have any new and different ideas about how to accomplish that, they’re keeping them quiet.
I’ll throw in my two cents on the topic by booting up the Synergy Sports machine, which could possibly be the Best. Thing. Ever. The Hawks’ numbers by play type in the four games against Orlando:
Isolation: 67 plays, .93 points per possession, 27/59 FG (45.7%)
P-and-R ball handler: 52 plays, .66 points per possession, 9/42 FG (21.4%)
Post-up: 50 plays, .66 points per possession, 11/37 FG(29.7%)
P-and-R roll man: 13 plays, .895 points per possession, 3/9 FG (33.3%)
Spot-up: 89 plays, .975 points per possession, 31/70 FG (44.3%)
Off screen: 17 plays, .94 points per possession, 6/15 FG (40%)
Cut: 29 plays, .94 points per possession, 12/24 FG (50%)
Offensive rebounds: 19 plays, 1.45 points per possession, 9/11 FG (82%)
Transition: 36 plays, .94 points per possession, 14/24 FG (58.3%)
All other play types: 23 plays, .23 points per possession, 2/9 FG (22.2%)
Judging by those numbers, the Hawks probably shouldn’t try Dwight Howard and Co. in the paint. No surprise there. Without looking at each play, I’m also guessing their problems with the pick-and-roll dribbler scoring has to do with venturing into Orlando’s trees. The Hawks might try getting more stuff going to the basket off pick-and-rolls and cuts, and also create more spot-up opportunities. But those kind of plays require player and/or ball movement and the Hawks seem to do commit to these concepts only intermittently.
As for the Hawks players in those four games vs. Orlando:
Johnson: 139 min., .92 points per possession
Josh Smith: 120 min., .77 points per possession
Horford: 119 min., 1.07 points per possession
Crawford: 116 min., .927 points per possession
Williams: 112 min., .965 points per possession
Bibby: 101 min., 1.18 points per possession
Evans: 61 min., 1.76 points per possession
Pachulia: 61 min., .975 points per possession
Teague:18 min., .695 points per possession
West: 13 min., 2.0 points per possession
Joe Smith: 5 min., 2 points per possession
Clearly, this means Mario should play major minutes in this series.
–I picked the Magic in 5 for the paper but now don’t feel good about it. I think it’s an overreaction after I got suckered into thinking the Hawks would have no clunkers against the Bucks and win in 5. I read too much into that last regular-season road game at Milwaukee. Now I think maybe I’m reading too much into the Game 3 surrender and Game 5 meltdown against Milwaukee. Or maybe it’s because the AJC’s Mark Bradley, 0-3 in the first round, is here for Games 1 and 2. He’s picking the Hawks in 7, so I assume he’s counting on Jeff Schultz to make the trip for the series-clincher.
But, seriously, I look at the Magic and see a team with few real weaknesses, at least not many the Hawks are capable of exploiting. Their ability to get open 3-pointers and play smothering team defense will have the Hawks on their heels all series. Still, I believe the Hawks will give a good showing and lose in six.
– Both Orlando Sentinel columnists pick the Magic. George Diaz says Magic in five but will give them a “mulligan” if they finish it in six. His colleague Mike Bianchi says the Magic should beware the Hawks, whom he thinks will lose in seven:
The Hawks have had their wake-up call, much like the Magic did last year in the opening round against Philly when the inferior 76ers jumped out to 2-1 series lead and came within a Hedo Turkoglu buzzer-beater of going ahead 3-1.
“It’s a good analogy,” Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said when I asked if the Hawks of this year remind him of the Magic of last year. “They’re coming off a first-round series in which people weren’t inspired by — same as our first-round series last year. I think there are some definite similarities between how people were talking about a year ago and how people are talking about them now.
“That doesn’t translate into this gym. We all know how good they are. We have tremendous respect for them.”
–Super commenter O’Brien says: “It will be very important for Hawks to crash the boards too. In all 4 games this season, we lost the rebounding battle (-12,-10, -9, and -10).”
Smoove hears you: “We’ve got to box people out. They shoot a lot of threes and there are going to be a lot of long rebounds, so even the guards have to come in and help out. If we gang rebound, we will be cool.”
– Apparently Pietrus is fine after turning his ankle the other day.
– I’m out, Hawks fans.
MC
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NUNNA!!
May 4th, 2010
11:32 pm
ONE MORE THING..
drmaryb and a few other look at sund as maybe part of the problem..
sund got woody what he asked for..
bibbs to come back..marvin to come back..vets on the bench and another scorer(crawford,collins,joe smith,and last year mo evans and flip murray)and you know what??
crawford,mo evans and flip would have been a better fit than us resigning bibbs and marvin back..
mo evans starting in marvins place..and flip starting at the point with teague coming off the bench and crawford spelling jj…when collins went out,we were down by 6 points..he didn’t stop howard but he was a little more controled and i still don’t know why he didn’t come back in the 2nd half…
but anyway,let sund build this team and lets see who we have in here next year..
any dabbs on who we’re gonna draft or what position??
i say draft a center who blocks and rebounds and one who does not even have to have a low post game..just a shot blocker and rebounder..and,2 more free agents(undrafted or unrestricted)7 footers to play the 5 spot..who can block and have a low post game..we need new centers next year,and we need to move horford to the pf,josh to the sf,teague to start,marvin to come off the bench,crawford to start,and othello hunter back on the team..and,im typing and sleepy..
i dont’ know what im saying..
gods nite
cp
May 4th, 2010
11:50 pm
Gotta love those adjustments Woodrow said he was gone make on the fly. Bibby and Duck should be on the trading block this summer . At this point I don’t care if we don’t get much value back from them. Bring Chills back because his type of hustle and play is missed.
drmaryb
May 4th, 2010
11:52 pm
I FIGHT DIRTY!
Everybody on here knows that by now! If you don’t believe me? Ask Venom-Spitter & Rusty – They Know!
I’ll run in the stands and slap FANS! (Oh! That’s Artest.). LOL!
I’ll kick the camera man in his groin! (Oh! That’s Dennis Rodman.). LOL!
Hey Coach Woody! Put me in – I will fight for you and the ATL! I may not win – but, I will not go down without putting up one hell of a FIGHT!
Where is the Nasty. Mean, Fighters on this roster?
There was a female president who resided over Spelman College back in the early ’90’s.
She was a key note speaker at Ebenezer Baptist Church to Memorialize Martin Luther King’s Birthday Celebration one year, her speech changed my LIFE forever & I went on to become a Doctor after that. Against – ALL ODDS! I went back to Graduate School and Mariculated at age 40:
She said:
There was a turtle traveling along a dirt path, and lying in wait – was a Lion. He was the King of the Jungle and all that he surveyed!
He saw the turtle coming his way and decided he would have turtle soup for lunch on this fine day. But, as the turtle traveled at a snails pace, the Lion decided he would take a little nap and upon awakening, the turtle should be right there in front of him & right on time for lunch.
As the Lion awakened, sure enough Mrs. Turtle was right on time. So, he picked her up and pressed her against his nose and said – Yum Yum I think I will have turtle soup for lunch.
The turtle replied, “Oh Mr. Lion, with your beautiful mane and fierce roar – You are King of the JUNGLE and ALL that you survey! If I got to go, then I got to go! But, before you eat me for lunch? Can you please put me down for 2 minutes and then have your way?”
The Lion said to himself, “Why Not? For, she could never escape me!”. So, he sat the turtle down.
That Turtle flipped backwards, then forward, she jumped up and down and all around – That turtle kicked and yelled and screamed and created a lot of dust and made one hell of a RUCKUS!!!!
When Mrs. Turtle was done – she said, “OK Mr. Lion – Thank You Very Much!”
The Lion scratched his head, and retorted, “I have worked up one hell of an appetite from just watching you – what was that RUCKUS all about?”
Mrs. Turtle replied, “Like I said, if I gotta go – then I gotta go….But, I want everybody that comes down this pathway to know – That I PUT up One Hell Of Fight!”
That’s all I ask the Hawks to do! FIGHT & FIGHT & FIGHT some more!
I will respect you more – I if you do!
cp
May 4th, 2010
11:55 pm
Nique’s Revenge the sad part about that link is that this team still has some of the same problems all these years later. Its time to move on from Woodrow.
Clyde
May 4th, 2010
11:58 pm
With this azz whippin don’t expect to see Samuel for a couple of days,
FIRE WOODY
Stuey Rock
May 4th, 2010
11:58 pm
someone shut that woman up
JSS
May 4th, 2010
11:58 pm
Ya’ll can sit here and whine like most did after Game 5 of the last series… It is a best of six series now… Shake that disaster off and put it in the trash can and double bag it! But this is why it is the playoffs, it was our “Memorial Day Massacre!”
Clyde
May 4th, 2010
11:59 pm
WE MIGHT AS WELL GET READY FOR FOOTBALL SEASON
FIRE WOODY
Clyde
May 5th, 2010
12:01 am
CP ARE YOU JOINING THE CLUB TOO?
THE WOODY SUPPORTERS ARE GETTING SMALLER EACH DAY
FIRE WOODY
drmaryb
May 5th, 2010
12:02 am
Darrell Starks
The problem is his V O I C E!
And his play off exit in the 1st. 1st. 1st. Round!
Clyde
May 5th, 2010
12:02 am
ROOKIES WILL FIGHT BUT VETERANS WILL QUIT ON THE TEAM
FIRE WOODY
drmaryb
May 5th, 2010
12:05 am
Darrell. S.
Oh and he had Steve Nash & MVP Dirk & Dampieer at Center! No holes on his roster!!
I hope that helps to clear things up for you?
VenomSpitter
May 5th, 2010
12:06 am
Omg look what someone wrote about the Hawks on wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Hawks#Signs_of_Hope
Go down to signs of hope part and read the last part LMAO
cp
May 5th, 2010
12:06 am
Clyde I thought he should have been gone years ago.
Clyde
May 5th, 2010
12:07 am
Al Horford – 4pts 6rbs
He dominated the Bucks why can’t he do it against Orlando?
FIRE WOODY
DHunt
May 5th, 2010
12:10 am
Mike Woodson trained Jeff Teague, a first round draft pick point guard, to dribble the ball across half court, pass it to joe or Jamal, and then go stand in the corner. Unbelievable. Every game give me yet another insight into how truly bad Woodson is as a head coach. Practice shooting?!?!? How about practice passing coach? How about practice a simple pass into the post, which the great Joe Johnson can’t seem to do?
for 12 minutes, I almost thought Woodson was going to prove me wrong. the next 24 minutes cured me of that. I thought maybe, just maybe, Woodson will make some meaningful adjustments this time. But now, I wonder if he has completely ruined this team like he has very nearly ruined Jeff Teague, and like he ruined Acie Law. They can’t adjust because they haven’t been asked to adjust all season. Most of the bench players are so out of sync from lack of playing time, they look like it’s the first game of the preseason, and they are trying to knock the rust off. Woodson’s all of a sudden going with combinations he hasn’t used all year, and they probably aren’t going to figure out how to play together this late in the program.
So we really are at a point where we can only win this series if our starters and the sixth man of the year, put together four of their best games of the year. Can that happen? Hell to da Yes It Can! But we shouldn’t be reduced to that with the talent on this team. And even if they manage to elevate their games, we will still get out coached.
FIRE MIKE WOODSON.
Clyde
May 5th, 2010
12:12 am
TIME TO START THE INTERVIEWS SUND
FIRE WOODY
Clyde
May 5th, 2010
12:14 am
WHAT’S THE EXCUSE THIS TIME WOODY? YOUR TEAM AIN’T YOUNG ANYMORE.
FIRE WOODY
Clyde
May 5th, 2010
12:14 am
WOODY = COY
MY AZZ
FIRE WOODY
Rick Hombsch
May 5th, 2010
12:15 am
The Hawks main problem (besides their inability to stop Howard from dunking) is that MARVIN WILLIAMS CAN NOT PLAY DEFENSE!!!! Watch the highlights if he’s not getting blown by or losing his man backdoor. He just is not paying attention. It’s hard enough to guard Dwight Howard but it’s even harder when one of their guards cuts free to the basket. (hello alley and you know Howard’s freakin the oop)
drmaryb
May 5th, 2010
12:16 am
CLYDE
I feel you man! Our starters are the BEST bench in the NBA!
Clyde
May 5th, 2010
12:17 am
“WE’RE STILL A YOUNG TEAM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WIN. WE GOTTA GO BACK LOOK AT SOME FILM AND TRY TO FIGURE THINGS OUT.” – WOODY
FIRE WOODY
Grandad
May 5th, 2010
12:19 am
Mike Budenholzer
Clyde
May 5th, 2010
12:21 am
DRMARYB CALL YA BOY SAMUEL AND TELL HIM ITS OK TO POST DESPITE OF THIS AZZ WHIPPIN.
FIRE WOODY
drmaryb
May 5th, 2010
12:30 am
CLYDE
Samuel has no heart nor FIGHT. He just layed down and cried him a river in a very soft pillow!
That’s what losers do! LOL!
Sorry Samuel – just having some FUN on here with my buddy CLYDE!
drmaryb
May 5th, 2010
12:38 am
Stuey Rocks, (kick some cans up the road dude)
Your problem is you don’t have a real name. You can blame your Mother for that one.
You really don’t want to go around with me? Step – Aside, Many have tried and many have Died!
You are way above your pay – grade now! I eat Stuey Rocks for snacks & your Mother eats me!
Now run along, now …. I hear your mamma calling you!
Grandad
May 5th, 2010
12:43 am
New Blog is up!
drmaryb
May 5th, 2010
12:46 am
PANTS ON THE GROUND!
I wear…..I wear….I wear No Pants….I weaarr NO PANTS! Commercial.
The HAWKS waddled off the court with their PANTS ON THE GROUND!
Somebody call Simon Cowell & see if we can book this act on:
THE NEXT AMERICAN IDOL!
drmaryb
May 5th, 2010
12:50 am
NEXT FOR THE HAWKS!
Hey HAWKS!
Bend over and grab your ankles…..Tighten your Anal – Spinchters….Pull your pants up – Over your Boot Straps &Fight like Mrs. Turtle! Please put up One – Hell – of – a – FIGHT!
Charles
May 5th, 2010
5:24 pm
Can we please fire Mike Woodson after this season? Our problems start with coaching. We have the talent. Also, when Joe leaves us, we need to try to get Rudy Gay and a center so Al hortford can play power forward (his position).