Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 1: Offensive Talk

Hawks gotta score, too. (Curtis Compton/ccomptoon@ajc.com)

Hawks gotta score, too. (Curtis Compton/ccomptoon@ajc.com)

ORLANDO–Quoth super commenter northcyde: “Everyone is talking about doubling Howard and their shotmaking, but no one is talking about our horrendous offensive deficiencies against Orlando.”

Agreed there hasn’t been much talk about the Hawks’ offensive struggles, but Brett LaGree is on it at Hoopinion:

“[T]he dominance of Orlando’s defense against Atlanta’s offense appears not to be an issue of interest on the eve of the series. Seriously, Orlando scored 113.3 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Hawks allowed 108.3 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. Orlando scored 111.9 points per 100 possessions in the four games against the Hawks. There’s certainly no reason for the Hawks not to try and do better but they didn’t defend Orlando badly (by their standards) while losing three of four games.

Conversely, the Hawks scored 113.5 points per 100 possessions during the regular season. The Magic allowed 105.1 points per 100 possessions in the regular season. The Hawks scored 93.5 points per 100 possessions in the four games against Orlando. There’s massive room (and need) for improvement when the Hawks have the ball.

Granted, the Hawks held Orlando below 1 point per possession in their March 24th victory and that’s the only recent example the Hawks have of beating Orlando. However, Orlando held the Hawks below 1 point per possession each time they played this season. I don’t think it’s realistic for the Hawks, against whom, it must be remembered, Milwaukee surpassed their season offensive efficiency average in 3 of 7 playoff games, to hold Orlando to 88% of their season offensive efficiency average often enough to win a seven-game playoff series.

The Hawks are going to have to find easier ways to score against the Magic to compete in this series. If they have any new and different ideas about how to accomplish that, they’re keeping them quiet.

I’ll throw in my two cents on the topic by booting up the Synergy Sports machine, which could possibly be the Best. Thing. Ever. The Hawks’ numbers by play type in the four games against Orlando:

Isolation: 67 plays, .93 points per possession, 27/59 FG (45.7%)

P-and-R ball handler: 52 plays, .66 points per possession, 9/42 FG (21.4%)

Post-up: 50 plays, .66 points per possession, 11/37 FG(29.7%)

P-and-R roll man: 13 plays, .895 points per possession, 3/9 FG (33.3%)

Spot-up: 89 plays, .975 points per possession, 31/70 FG (44.3%)

Off screen: 17 plays, .94 points per possession, 6/15 FG (40%)

Cut: 29 plays, .94 points per possession, 12/24 FG (50%)

Offensive rebounds: 19 plays, 1.45 points per possession, 9/11 FG (82%)

Transition: 36 plays, .94 points per possession, 14/24 FG (58.3%)

All other play types: 23 plays, .23 points per possession, 2/9 FG (22.2%)

Judging by those numbers, the Hawks probably shouldn’t try Dwight Howard and Co. in the paint. No surprise there. Without looking at each play, I’m also guessing their problems with the pick-and-roll dribbler scoring has to do with venturing into Orlando’s trees. The Hawks might try getting more stuff going to the basket off pick-and-rolls and cuts, and also create more spot-up opportunities. But those kind of plays require player and/or ball movement and the Hawks seem to do commit to these concepts only intermittently.

As for the Hawks players in those four games vs. Orlando:

Johnson: 139 min., .92 points per possession
Josh Smith: 120 min., .77 points per possession
Horford: 119 min., 1.07 points per possession
Crawford: 116 min., .927 points per possession
Williams: 112 min., .965 points per possession
Bibby: 101 min., 1.18 points per possession
Evans: 61 min., 1.76 points per possession
Pachulia: 61 min., .975 points per possession
Teague:18 min., .695 points per possession
West: 13 min., 2.0 points per possession
Joe Smith: 5 min., 2 points per possession

Clearly, this means Mario should play major minutes in this series.

–I picked the Magic in 5 for the paper but now don’t feel good about it. I think it’s an overreaction after I got suckered into thinking the Hawks would have no clunkers against the Bucks and win in 5. I read too much into that last regular-season road game at Milwaukee. Now I think maybe I’m reading too much into the Game 3 surrender and Game 5 meltdown against Milwaukee. Or maybe it’s because the AJC’s Mark Bradley, 0-3 in the first round, is here for Games 1 and 2. He’s picking the Hawks in 7, so I assume he’s counting on Jeff Schultz to make the trip for the series-clincher.

But, seriously, I look at the Magic and see a team with few real weaknesses, at least not many the Hawks are capable of exploiting. Their ability to get open 3-pointers and play smothering team defense will have the Hawks on their heels all series. Still, I believe the Hawks will give a good showing and lose in six.

– Both Orlando Sentinel columnists pick the Magic. George Diaz says Magic in five but will give them a “mulligan” if they finish it in six. His colleague Mike Bianchi says the Magic should beware the Hawks, whom he thinks will lose in seven:

The Hawks have had their wake-up call, much like the Magic did last year in the opening round against Philly when the inferior 76ers jumped out to 2-1 series lead and came within a Hedo Turkoglu buzzer-beater of going ahead 3-1.

“It’s a good analogy,” Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said when I asked if the Hawks of this year remind him of the Magic of last year. “They’re coming off a first-round series in which people weren’t inspired by — same as our first-round series last year. I think there are some definite similarities between how people were talking about a year ago and how people are talking about them now.
“That doesn’t translate into this gym. We all know how good they are. We have tremendous respect for them.”

–Super commenter O’Brien says: “It will be very important for Hawks to crash the boards too. In all 4 games this season, we lost the rebounding battle (-12,-10, -9, and -10).”

Smoove hears you: “We’ve got to box people out. They shoot a lot of threes and there are going to be a lot of long rebounds, so even the guards have to come in and help out. If we gang rebound, we will be cool.”

– Apparently Pietrus is fine after turning his ankle the other day.

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

580 comments Add your comment

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
10:23 pm

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
10:23 pm

“thats on me, i have to do a better job at getting those guys off”

Mike Hunt

May 4th, 2010
10:24 pm

Joe Johnson is an absolute stiff when it comes to any big game. 10 points. you kidding me? he’s our star. wow. The entire team rolls over and takes it up the a$$ against Orlando every time they play. unbelievable.

Taylor

May 4th, 2010
10:25 pm

well at least I will save money by not buying playoff tickets

darrell starks

May 4th, 2010
10:25 pm

NOW DO ANY ONE THINK JOE A SUPERSTAR WHO HAVE BEEN GHOST THE PAST 3 GAMES? HELL NO
GO HAWKS!!!!!

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
10:26 pm

joke johnson with 10 points huh

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
10:26 pm

I’ve never had fun digging on the Hawks. But if you couldn’t find a way to laugh about this one, you’re still not done crying…

Hawk n the Ham

May 4th, 2010
10:26 pm

I would have left Joe in the entire game and make him find his rhythm!

Hawk n the Ham

May 4th, 2010
10:27 pm

*made…not ‘make’.

Big Ray

May 4th, 2010
10:27 pm

Well, nothing to do but wait for game 2. I’m not even going to check back and see what kind of wisdom the Hawks fan bashers have to offer up after they think everybod else is in bed….

Grandad

May 4th, 2010
10:28 pm

*I don’t think I’ve ever said ‘this’ before:
But – the team/players quit on Wdsn tonight.

*O’B – I think Wdsn/team has to win this series,
[4] games for him to keep his job.

*After hearing some of the tired old bromidic retreads
mentioned as replacements for Wdsn & listening to N.R.,
I think we can get a quality coach w/o paying Big $ for
someone who has already been another franchise’s Woody.

*Mike Budenholzer, lead asst. for ‘Pop’, S.A. Spurs.
a new name for everyone to chew on.
Never been an NBA HC, but quality nonetheless.
Highly recommended by ‘Pop’.

Sautee

May 4th, 2010
10:28 pm

That was sickening.

Sautee

May 4th, 2010
10:29 pm

Not your post, Grandad, the game.

O'Brien

May 4th, 2010
10:29 pm

I cant help but wonder, whats wrong with JJ? Is he tired? The last 4 games (3 against Milwaukee, 1 against Orlando), he has shot 6-16, 8-24, 4-14, and 4-11 tonight.

darrell starks

May 4th, 2010
10:31 pm

The worst road team in the nba playoffs over past 3 years with a 2 wins and 11 lost by and avg of 29 points a game wow!!!!!!
GO HAWKS!!!!!!

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

May 4th, 2010
10:31 pm

“No Juice Tonight”

-Mike Woodson

Hawk n the Ham

May 4th, 2010
10:32 pm

LMFAO @ Sir Charles!!!!!!!!

He said about Woody, “Just give him a cigarette and a blindfold”.

:lol:

darrell starks

May 4th, 2010
10:32 pm

TNT LAUGHING AT THE HAWKS WHAT A JOKE LOL.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

May 4th, 2010
10:32 pm

Game Plan for Game #2 = “Bring The Juice”

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
10:32 pm

LOL @ woody. “We had no juice 2nite”

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

May 4th, 2010
10:32 pm

LMAO@Woodon doesnt kno what to say

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
10:33 pm

So woody wants the hawks to take steroids.

Taylor

May 4th, 2010
10:33 pm

Those words make me believe we will win the series now

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
10:33 pm

come back and work on some shooting..

Wabe

May 4th, 2010
10:33 pm

That “no-juice” excuse rings empty…

You’re kidding right?

We were down 2 at the end of one.

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
10:33 pm

THANK YOU BARKLEY!! CALL HIM OUT

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

May 4th, 2010
10:33 pm

“Somehow we gotta come back 2morrow….and work on some shooting”

-Mike Woodson

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
10:33 pm

Yes Charles ripping Woody lol. Fire Woody.

JB

May 4th, 2010
10:33 pm

Charles Barkley just nailed it about Woodson. GET MAD!

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
10:33 pm

“come back and work on some shooting”

some, motha f-in shooting..! ? !

Hawk n the Ham

May 4th, 2010
10:35 pm

Hire Barkley!!!!

VenomSpitter

May 4th, 2010
10:35 pm

Where are all the Woody=COY idiots?????????????????????

missSection120

May 4th, 2010
10:35 pm

Finally someone criticized Coach woodson. Thanks Chuck
FIRE WOODY

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

May 4th, 2010
10:36 pm

sorry but I called this earlier…lol Woodson’s plan is just hope that the jumpers that didnt fall one night…falls another.

LOL..Woodson thinks shoot around time is going to make the difference.

Nique's Revenge

May 4th, 2010
10:36 pm

woody OUT barkley IN

TheHawkster

May 4th, 2010
10:36 pm

Fugg Charles Fat azzz. Did he ever win a championship?? Slobb…

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

May 4th, 2010
10:37 pm

How could anyone just watch/listen to that post game garbage from Woodson and think of him as a decent coach??

O'Brien

May 4th, 2010
10:37 pm

In the press conference, Woody said “we will come to practice tomorrow, and practice our shooting”.

That is the wrong mindset with Woody and these Hawks. it usually comes down to jump shots. He hardly talks about ball movement. Mostly, its about jump shots.

As Sir Charles said, you dont live by the jump shot, you die by the jump shot

Hawk n the Ham

May 4th, 2010
10:37 pm

Elect Charles Barkley 2010!!!!

bigdave

May 4th, 2010
10:38 pm

“guys that carried us all season that just didnt get it done”

Ree Roe

May 4th, 2010
10:42 pm

Really disgusted by tonight’s “effort” after the first Q, but guys let’s keep it in perspective. It is only 1 game. There were some positives in the first quarter, but after that WTF. At least it’s only 1 game

-REEpeal of Roe!

terrell

May 4th, 2010
10:44 pm

Are you freakin kidding me? I woke up and saw the score and thought I was dreaming.

northcyde

May 4th, 2010
10:44 pm

I think I’ll wait until MC posts his new blog, before I make my comments, although I will say this.

Game 2 will be interesting. Because once again, the fan base has jumped off the Hawks bandwagon, wanting the team to fall off a cliff. The Hawks definitely gave a reason for the fan exodus though. This was an Ivan Drago vs Apollo Creed type beatdown.

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

May 4th, 2010
10:44 pm

Is that all it takes to be an NBA coach?? If you’re team loses, your plan for the next game is just to “work on some shooting”

No strategy behind it???

He might as well have just said “…you know for the next game, we just have to put it in the hoop more times than them”

Woodson = COY!!!! (Crap of the Year)

terrell

May 4th, 2010
10:44 pm

The Bucks woulda put up a better fight.

Maavelous

May 4th, 2010
10:45 pm

As usual I Marv was maaavelous. The rest of the team is a bunch of girly-man chokers.

Hawk n the Ham

May 4th, 2010
10:46 pm

Hey ASG,

Is this the progress you were looking for?

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

May 4th, 2010
10:47 pm

Where are the Hawks goin to get this “Juice” Woodson was speaking of???

GNC??

darrell starks

May 4th, 2010
10:47 pm

Like have said it before and i will say it again woody the luckies coach in sports, but his luck will run out this series and he will be expose bad.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!

terrell

May 4th, 2010
10:48 pm

B4 the season started Woody said ” our goal is to win the division”. Did he forget that Orlando is in our division?