Atlanta Hawks at Bucks Game 6: It’s Not Over

It wasn't too long ago the Hawks were in control of this series. Can they get it back?

It wasn't too long ago the Hawks were in control of this series. Can they get it back?

So we know the reasons to doubt the Hawks can win tonight. But I keep seeing comments on this blog and hearing people on talk radio expressing a strange sense that they believe the Hawks will win tonight. They qualify their statements to say there are so many logical reasons for them not to feel that way but some kind of hunch tells them the Hawks will do it. The Hawks have been known to be unpredictable.

It’s not out of the question, of course. This is especially true if you still believe the Hawks, when playing to their full potential, are a better team than the Bucks. When the AJC’s Jeff Schultz cornered ASG’s Michael Gearon Jr. , the co-owner made the point that this was the overwhelming view after the Hawks won Games 1 and 2. Now the emotions have swung the other way, which happens in the playoffs. Combine those sentiments with the Hawks’ problems on the road, the Game 5 meltdown, the pressure they are feeling, etc. and it’s not hard to see why there is widespread pessimism that the Hawks can pull it off.

Still, if you try it’s also possible to spin some of what happened on Wednesday into positives. Will J.J., Jamal and Bibby all have terrible shooting nights at the same time again? J.J. probably isn’t going to foul out again since he’s hardly ever done so in his career. It’s doubtful Josh will have to miss minutes because of a busted eye (though I guess you never know with Kurt Thomas out there).

And then there’s the psychology of tonight’s game. No doubt the Hawks are under tremendous pressure to win but what about the Bucks? They don’t have to win tonight but I can’t think they’d be eager to return to Philips since even they know they were fortunate to win Game 5. It’s easy to say it would be no big deal for the Bucks if they end up losing this series because they’ve already fared better than most anyone expected. But now that they are on the verge of springing a major upset while tonight enjoying what has been a tremendous home court advantage, they don’t want to turn back.

Even TNT talking head Charles Barkley, who has ripped the Hawks for their half court offense and players’ attitudes, took up that line of thinking (props to the AJC’s Ken Sugiura for bringing it to my attention).

“The Hawks have a chance,” Barkley said. “This is going to be a very difficult game for Milwaukee. This is the first time that they have the monkey on their back. They have been playing with house money the first five games of the series. When this series started no one thought they could win without Bogut. Then they win the first game and they get somewhat back into it.”

– Super commenter Niremetal emailed in response to yesterday’s blog post on the Hawks’ need for a ‘Zo-like presence:

“Do you think it’s possible to simply bring someone in who commands that kind of respect? I suspect that at least some part of the respect that Zo had stemmed from the fact that he’d been around Miami before, and knew both the coach and a couple of his teammates pretty well. The Hawks’ core has been together for 3 years now. Do you think that if a guy like Haslem or Grant Hill came in, he would get the ear of his teammates like that? I mean, Flip Saunders got tuned out by his players in Detroit. If long-time teammates can tune out a coach, I’d imagine they could tune out a player.”

Niremetal makes a great point. In fact, when ‘Zo was with the Nets in 2004-05, reports out of New Jersey suggested the established Nets players didn’t buy into his leadership style. But the Nets were a different situation than the Hawks. When Zo joined the Nets they were a veteran group that had already been to the Finals. So I could see where Nets players didn’t necessarily appreciate Zo coming in and telling them they needed better focus no matter how hard he worked

It’s also true Zo already had major cred within the Heat organization when he re-joined the team, and his close relationship with Pat Riley also didn’t hurt his standing. It could be that a Zo-like presence on the Hawks could upset the chemistry, which has been pretty good in general (with the notable exception of the bickering we’ve seen when things have been tight in this series).

But how could the Hawks shun a hardened vet who joins the team? The Hawks are a veteran team in the sense that they now have guys who’ve been around but, barring an unexpected run over the next couple weeks, what have they done in the postseason? Not say the Hawks haven’t earned some respect but so far they certainly haven’t made their name in the playoffs. This doesn’t mean the Hawks’ core guys wouldn’t chafe at an accomplished, outspoken guy with a forceful personality coming in as an outsider but it does mean they’d have less of a basis to complain.

–Have fun, Hawks fans.

MC

657 comments Add your comment

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
9:04 pm

Whos ready for Iso Joe

Not me

Elliot

April 30th, 2010
9:04 pm

Alright, now lets see if the Hawks can keep it together and extend this lead in the fourth quarter. We’ve seen big third quarters from the Hawks before, but the other big question is, can they have a big fourth quarter on the road for the first time in 12 games of the playoffs.

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:04 pm

naw.. i aint that wet from 3.. my mid range cool though..

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:05 pm

The Hawks can show us they have really put the last three games behind them and grown up if they continue this momentum in the 4th. They can show us they are the same schizophrenic, testicularly challenged team they have proven themselves to be the last three games if they let the Bucks back in this game. It’s that simple.

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:06 pm

lol @ testicularly challenged…

O'Brien

April 30th, 2010
9:06 pm

This game is UGLY. But I am absolutely lovin this score.

Elliot

April 30th, 2010
9:06 pm

Lol, this isn’t the UFC. Kurt Thomas was going for the submission there.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:06 pm

KT pulled a UFC move on Josh.

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
9:07 pm

Kurt Thomas need to be eject from the game…

JoBjo

April 30th, 2010
9:07 pm

Josh got horsecollared. lol

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:07 pm

aye.. i hate that he doing it to my boys.. but that boy Kurt a straight 90’s player buddy.. he’ll put u on ur a**

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:07 pm

More Iso-Joe, another missed shot.

Please for the love of God run the offense through Smoove in the post.

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:07 pm

stubborn Woodson.

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
9:07 pm

Horford on Jennings?

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
9:08 pm

OMG why is Al guarding Jennings

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
9:08 pm

Now we going back to the switching…SMH

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:08 pm

preach Nique..

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
9:08 pm

Here we go another choke

DecDawg

April 30th, 2010
9:08 pm

JJ’s trying to pad the stat sheet instead of passing the ball around for an open look

bonquesha

April 30th, 2010
9:08 pm

I blame ‘Nique.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:08 pm

Big possession here.

fudd21

April 30th, 2010
9:09 pm

here we go JJ going 1 on 5 again

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
9:09 pm

Big shot by Crawford….

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:09 pm

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
9:09 pm

Josh almost f.cked up

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:09 pm

HUGE, HUGE 3 for Crawford. The crowd was getting ready to get back into it. Hawks need another bucket next time.

NUNNA!!

April 30th, 2010
9:09 pm

only a 6 man rotation??
and you all know we go thru 4 qtr.scoring droughts..
i don’t want to go thru that at all..lets make some subs with a big line up and pound da ball inside while the starters rest..if not,its gonna get ugly

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
9:09 pm

more 1 on 1 bullish

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
9:09 pm

No ball movement….

JoBjo

April 30th, 2010
9:09 pm

ok , Craw, those are good 3’s after all.

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:10 pm

the size of Bibby..

but Woodson is stubborn.. fire him.. he wanna show that his scheme works.. switching leaving open 3’s

bigemobile

April 30th, 2010
9:10 pm

why won’t somebody knock the sh**t out of kurt thomas

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
9:10 pm

Jamal is back

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:10 pm

take us home Jamal..

bigemobile

April 30th, 2010
9:10 pm

has josh lost his mind?

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:10 pm

They are switching the top side screens again and they almost got burned again by Delfino. On the bright side, Crawford is heating up.

On another note, this score looks like a WNBA game, which it might as well be compared to Orlando.

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:10 pm

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
9:11 pm

Yes, way to answer there run to restore order….

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:11 pm

“why won’t somebody knock the sh**t out of kurt thomas”

If Zaza wasn’t getting burned by the switching D all series, I think he would have played more… and if he did, I think we would have seen a fight between him and Thomas by now. Hawks could have used that in Game 5, I can tell you that much.

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:12 pm

my goodness and the Braves are winning..

NUNNA!!

April 30th, 2010
9:12 pm

the bucks are nervous..they are nervous..
im glad josh and crew had that players only meeting thursday..
they needed it..and i’ll be happy to eat my words tonite..

Elliot

April 30th, 2010
9:13 pm

Al Horford and Jamal Crawford are carrying the team right now, good two-man game going between the two. Joe is really taking some questionable shots though. He needs to calm down.

DecDawg

April 30th, 2010
9:13 pm

Almost time to make that statement to Kurt Thomas. Paging Randolph Morris…time for a Flagrant 2. It’s not like Randolph is going to play the next game anyway. You can’t let one guy man-handle the whole team.

Blast

April 30th, 2010
9:13 pm

Why can’t Hawks play like this all the time? On both ends of the court?

Still, it ain’t over yet!

I hear ya, Bigdave! No switch, close out defence, move the ball…

Sigh! Sounds simple, inni’t? Why isn’t it so with Hawks?

JoBjo

April 30th, 2010
9:14 pm

is it Collins time yet?

JoBjo

April 30th, 2010
9:15 pm

yep, Bucks are snakebit.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:15 pm

Jennings is a volume shooter… take him out of the game early and he stays off, but let him get hot early and he stays on.

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:15 pm

you would be amazed at how much better Z looked tonight .. without his own coach exploiting him.. he actually looked like a 7 fter he was active as hell on the boards with tap outs etc

JoBjo

April 30th, 2010
9:15 pm

keep playin D!

bonquesha

April 30th, 2010
9:16 pm