Atlanta Hawks at Bucks Game 6: It’s Not Over

It wasn't too long ago the Hawks were in control of this series. Can they get it back?

It wasn't too long ago the Hawks were in control of this series. Can they get it back?

So we know the reasons to doubt the Hawks can win tonight. But I keep seeing comments on this blog and hearing people on talk radio expressing a strange sense that they believe the Hawks will win tonight. They qualify their statements to say there are so many logical reasons for them not to feel that way but some kind of hunch tells them the Hawks will do it. The Hawks have been known to be unpredictable.

It’s not out of the question, of course. This is especially true if you still believe the Hawks, when playing to their full potential, are a better team than the Bucks. When the AJC’s Jeff Schultz cornered ASG’s Michael Gearon Jr. , the co-owner made the point that this was the overwhelming view after the Hawks won Games 1 and 2. Now the emotions have swung the other way, which happens in the playoffs. Combine those sentiments with the Hawks’ problems on the road, the Game 5 meltdown, the pressure they are feeling, etc. and it’s not hard to see why there is widespread pessimism that the Hawks can pull it off.

Still, if you try it’s also possible to spin some of what happened on Wednesday into positives. Will J.J., Jamal and Bibby all have terrible shooting nights at the same time again? J.J. probably isn’t going to foul out again since he’s hardly ever done so in his career. It’s doubtful Josh will have to miss minutes because of a busted eye (though I guess you never know with Kurt Thomas out there).

And then there’s the psychology of tonight’s game. No doubt the Hawks are under tremendous pressure to win but what about the Bucks? They don’t have to win tonight but I can’t think they’d be eager to return to Philips since even they know they were fortunate to win Game 5. It’s easy to say it would be no big deal for the Bucks if they end up losing this series because they’ve already fared better than most anyone expected. But now that they are on the verge of springing a major upset while tonight enjoying what has been a tremendous home court advantage, they don’t want to turn back.

Even TNT talking head Charles Barkley, who has ripped the Hawks for their half court offense and players’ attitudes, took up that line of thinking (props to the AJC’s Ken Sugiura for bringing it to my attention).

“The Hawks have a chance,” Barkley said. “This is going to be a very difficult game for Milwaukee. This is the first time that they have the monkey on their back. They have been playing with house money the first five games of the series. When this series started no one thought they could win without Bogut. Then they win the first game and they get somewhat back into it.”

– Super commenter Niremetal emailed in response to yesterday’s blog post on the Hawks’ need for a ‘Zo-like presence:

“Do you think it’s possible to simply bring someone in who commands that kind of respect? I suspect that at least some part of the respect that Zo had stemmed from the fact that he’d been around Miami before, and knew both the coach and a couple of his teammates pretty well. The Hawks’ core has been together for 3 years now. Do you think that if a guy like Haslem or Grant Hill came in, he would get the ear of his teammates like that? I mean, Flip Saunders got tuned out by his players in Detroit. If long-time teammates can tune out a coach, I’d imagine they could tune out a player.”

Niremetal makes a great point. In fact, when ‘Zo was with the Nets in 2004-05, reports out of New Jersey suggested the established Nets players didn’t buy into his leadership style. But the Nets were a different situation than the Hawks. When Zo joined the Nets they were a veteran group that had already been to the Finals. So I could see where Nets players didn’t necessarily appreciate Zo coming in and telling them they needed better focus no matter how hard he worked

It’s also true Zo already had major cred within the Heat organization when he re-joined the team, and his close relationship with Pat Riley also didn’t hurt his standing. It could be that a Zo-like presence on the Hawks could upset the chemistry, which has been pretty good in general (with the notable exception of the bickering we’ve seen when things have been tight in this series).

But how could the Hawks shun a hardened vet who joins the team? The Hawks are a veteran team in the sense that they now have guys who’ve been around but, barring an unexpected run over the next couple weeks, what have they done in the postseason? Not say the Hawks haven’t earned some respect but so far they certainly haven’t made their name in the playoffs. This doesn’t mean the Hawks’ core guys wouldn’t chafe at an accomplished, outspoken guy with a forceful personality coming in as an outsider but it does mean they’d have less of a basis to complain.

–Have fun, Hawks fans.

MC

657 comments Add your comment

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
8:35 pm

good job Josh…

Al way to go quick.. got fouled..

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:35 pm

lmao nice flop by Josh, smartest thing he’s did in a min

Vick Supporter

April 30th, 2010
8:36 pm

DEM Hawks baby!!!!!!!!!

Geemack

April 30th, 2010
8:37 pm

5 trips & 5 jumpers. I thought our advantage was inside?

northcyde

April 30th, 2010
8:37 pm

at least they didn’t panic. And Bibby showing his worth with his shotmaking. great defense as well

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
8:38 pm

yea we would be down 15 against an elite team..

but if we had an offensive identity we would be an elite team.. and out of this series.. i wonder how Woodson feels about his switching defense. looks like this simple basic hard nosed man has given him one of his best defensive efforts of the series and even year.

Blast

April 30th, 2010
8:39 pm

Why are Hawks running the game through Joe? He’s only gonna hog it up. Love Joe and all, but not digging his bball mentality right now. Joe makes the game harder for himself, which might be a reflection on the coach that iso’s so much. Or is it as people say, the players have tuned out Wood? Joe could average 25 easy in the right system.

What? ALL the Hawks tuned out the coach?

Vick Supporter

April 30th, 2010
8:39 pm

no matter if we win this series, dwight howard is going to dunk all over our asses…hate to say it

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:39 pm

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
8:40 pm

Joe stop being greed keep it real partna give to the needy

ballhog

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
8:40 pm

Got damn Joe. Pass the ball

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
8:40 pm

bullsh.. Joe..

Vick Supporter

April 30th, 2010
8:40 pm

hawks playing some d….

Blast

April 30th, 2010
8:40 pm

Airball after dribbling for ever and drawing all the defence? Joe, what are you doing? The Bucks are giving you this game!

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
8:41 pm

Josh admitted that committed that last foul…

Sautee

April 30th, 2010
8:41 pm

Woody asked for 3 to 4 passes.

Joe holds the ball until the end of the shot clock and shoots an airball.

You’re right northcyde, that’s NOT Woody’s fault.

But it sure as hell is not “supernova”

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:41 pm

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
8:41 pm

Lets go HAWKS…

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
8:41 pm

tell em to scream a lil louder J!!!

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
8:41 pm

Get the fly off your back Josh.

northcyde

April 30th, 2010
8:41 pm

Don’t sell us out JJ . . . as I type this, he hits a 3

THERE YOU GO SMOOVE . . . AND 1

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
8:42 pm

Josh look like The Game lol

Vick Supporter

April 30th, 2010
8:42 pm

say what you want about joe…he’s one of the only ones on the team that can get his own shot except crawford

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:42 pm

plz lets blow these guys out

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:42 pm

I didnt see a foul

cp

April 30th, 2010
8:43 pm

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
8:43 pm

Bad call on Marvin…

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
8:43 pm

stubborn Woodson going back to switching yielding an open 3 for Delfino..

instead of Bibby resetting he jacks up a 3..

Geemack

April 30th, 2010
8:43 pm

Way to play Josh.

JoBjo

April 30th, 2010
8:43 pm

no discipline, again. jackin 3s with plenty of clock. low iq.

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
8:43 pm

Kill the Deer

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
8:44 pm

Yes sir, let’s attack the paint…

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:44 pm

Wait??? Whats this???

Going to the hoop…produces good things?? higher % shots….and trips to the foul line?????

JoBjo

April 30th, 2010
8:45 pm

Milwaukee looks snake bit!

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
8:45 pm

VenomSpitter,

Don’t try to switch sides now…. You want the Hawks to lose…

WHY???

April 30th, 2010
8:45 pm

Thought that was 8 seconds with bibby skippin

Geemack

April 30th, 2010
8:45 pm

Why does Horford pick and pop, instead of rolling to the basket for a lay up.

WHY???

April 30th, 2010
8:46 pm

win or lose

FIRE WOODY

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:46 pm

ah man..with ORL’s shooters….that switching isnt going to work one bit…..someone has to get that through woodson’s head if we make it past the mediocre bucks.

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
8:46 pm

Uh who the hell is this guy Melvin all on my jock

JoBjo

April 30th, 2010
8:48 pm

clock malfunction? how convenient.

northcyde

April 30th, 2010
8:48 pm

13 – 2 advantage in the quarter

Jennings and Salmons 2 – 16 FG

Delfino has 15 pts . . no other Buck over 4 pts.

Bucks shooting 30% . . . Hawks 35%

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
8:48 pm

Mack..

particularly Al.. if he’s not running, or getting easy put backs.. he’s most effective shooting jumpers.. for us, that is going inside.. he has no post game.. and he’s the pick and pop guy vs. Josh being the pick and roll..

Blast

April 30th, 2010
8:48 pm

Though Joe missed that last three, but he made the first one, uncontested. I will take my chances with those kind of plays, in and out, than iso’s.

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
8:48 pm

finally some D

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
8:48 pm

Jamal should’ve given that ball up to Al.. to give it to Josh working on Illy.. give it to Josh…

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:50 pm

plz…more separation…

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
8:50 pm

Ok Woody, make sure you make some subs so we can have some legs left in the 4th.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
8:50 pm

“One of mike woodson’s children has to be named Isolesha or somethin…”

Comment of the motherf-cking MILLENNIUM LMAO

Vick Supporter

April 30th, 2010
8:50 pm

great coaching WOODY