Atlanta Hawks at Bucks Game 6: It’s Not Over

It wasn't too long ago the Hawks were in control of this series. Can they get it back?

It wasn't too long ago the Hawks were in control of this series. Can they get it back?

So we know the reasons to doubt the Hawks can win tonight. But I keep seeing comments on this blog and hearing people on talk radio expressing a strange sense that they believe the Hawks will win tonight. They qualify their statements to say there are so many logical reasons for them not to feel that way but some kind of hunch tells them the Hawks will do it. The Hawks have been known to be unpredictable.

It’s not out of the question, of course. This is especially true if you still believe the Hawks, when playing to their full potential, are a better team than the Bucks. When the AJC’s Jeff Schultz cornered ASG’s Michael Gearon Jr. , the co-owner made the point that this was the overwhelming view after the Hawks won Games 1 and 2. Now the emotions have swung the other way, which happens in the playoffs. Combine those sentiments with the Hawks’ problems on the road, the Game 5 meltdown, the pressure they are feeling, etc. and it’s not hard to see why there is widespread pessimism that the Hawks can pull it off.

Still, if you try it’s also possible to spin some of what happened on Wednesday into positives. Will J.J., Jamal and Bibby all have terrible shooting nights at the same time again? J.J. probably isn’t going to foul out again since he’s hardly ever done so in his career. It’s doubtful Josh will have to miss minutes because of a busted eye (though I guess you never know with Kurt Thomas out there).

And then there’s the psychology of tonight’s game. No doubt the Hawks are under tremendous pressure to win but what about the Bucks? They don’t have to win tonight but I can’t think they’d be eager to return to Philips since even they know they were fortunate to win Game 5. It’s easy to say it would be no big deal for the Bucks if they end up losing this series because they’ve already fared better than most anyone expected. But now that they are on the verge of springing a major upset while tonight enjoying what has been a tremendous home court advantage, they don’t want to turn back.

Even TNT talking head Charles Barkley, who has ripped the Hawks for their half court offense and players’ attitudes, took up that line of thinking (props to the AJC’s Ken Sugiura for bringing it to my attention).

“The Hawks have a chance,” Barkley said. “This is going to be a very difficult game for Milwaukee. This is the first time that they have the monkey on their back. They have been playing with house money the first five games of the series. When this series started no one thought they could win without Bogut. Then they win the first game and they get somewhat back into it.”

– Super commenter Niremetal emailed in response to yesterday’s blog post on the Hawks’ need for a ‘Zo-like presence:

“Do you think it’s possible to simply bring someone in who commands that kind of respect? I suspect that at least some part of the respect that Zo had stemmed from the fact that he’d been around Miami before, and knew both the coach and a couple of his teammates pretty well. The Hawks’ core has been together for 3 years now. Do you think that if a guy like Haslem or Grant Hill came in, he would get the ear of his teammates like that? I mean, Flip Saunders got tuned out by his players in Detroit. If long-time teammates can tune out a coach, I’d imagine they could tune out a player.”

Niremetal makes a great point. In fact, when ‘Zo was with the Nets in 2004-05, reports out of New Jersey suggested the established Nets players didn’t buy into his leadership style. But the Nets were a different situation than the Hawks. When Zo joined the Nets they were a veteran group that had already been to the Finals. So I could see where Nets players didn’t necessarily appreciate Zo coming in and telling them they needed better focus no matter how hard he worked

It’s also true Zo already had major cred within the Heat organization when he re-joined the team, and his close relationship with Pat Riley also didn’t hurt his standing. It could be that a Zo-like presence on the Hawks could upset the chemistry, which has been pretty good in general (with the notable exception of the bickering we’ve seen when things have been tight in this series).

But how could the Hawks shun a hardened vet who joins the team? The Hawks are a veteran team in the sense that they now have guys who’ve been around but, barring an unexpected run over the next couple weeks, what have they done in the postseason? Not say the Hawks haven’t earned some respect but so far they certainly haven’t made their name in the playoffs. This doesn’t mean the Hawks’ core guys wouldn’t chafe at an accomplished, outspoken guy with a forceful personality coming in as an outsider but it does mean they’d have less of a basis to complain.

–Have fun, Hawks fans.

MC

657 comments Add your comment

JoBjo

April 30th, 2010
8:10 pm

a real east coast grinder!

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:10 pm

Crawford has probably given up on the organization too. I still cant believe only ZaZa and Randmo came out to see him receive his 6th man award.

Thats like being in high school and throwing a party and only 2 geeks and a fat smelly kid show up.

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
8:11 pm

1 more half till the end of the Hawks and Woody

Vick Supporter

April 30th, 2010
8:11 pm

we take so many tough shots from playing so much one on one

steven

April 30th, 2010
8:11 pm

what a horrible half of basketball

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
8:11 pm

i wonder if Teague could push the tempo dip in and out the paint and lay it off to a big…

WHY???

April 30th, 2010
8:11 pm

The Basketball GODS are with the Hawks because we are only down 3pts after that YMCA rec halft, share the ball and play INSIDE OUT and game 7 sunday

Wabe

April 30th, 2010
8:11 pm

Defense is there…
The offense is pathetic.

Clyde

April 30th, 2010
8:12 pm

30 MORE MINUTES TILL WOODY IS GONE

FIRE WOODY

Vick Supporter

April 30th, 2010
8:12 pm

we want teague!! we want teague!!

we want teague!! we want teague!!

Wabe

April 30th, 2010
8:13 pm

Someone explain that to Woody. You held the opposing team to 34 points at the half, and your still losing.

Bet he’d say, “We’re getting good looks, we just gotta knock a few down.”

Clyde

April 30th, 2010
8:13 pm

DAVE TEAGUE CAN DO IT BUT WOODY WON’T GIVE HIM THE CHANCE TO DO IT

FIRE WOODY

MoeHawk

April 30th, 2010
8:13 pm

19 sec left and joe dribbles out the clock and MISS! AGAIN!

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:14 pm

Woodson always acts like things are so easy to fix, yet nothing gets done…and it’s NEVER his fault.

L

April 30th, 2010
8:14 pm

@O-Mac-Town
i still can’t believe no one other than zaza and mo showed up either, especially since he was given the award at their practice facility right after practice! like i said in another post…these guys know what they’re doing…they want Woody out too!

Clyde

April 30th, 2010
8:15 pm

WOODY HAS YET TO REALIZE THAT THE GAME SLOWS DOWN IN THE PLAYOFFS. SOME THINGS U DID IN THE REGULAR SEASON YOU JUST CAN’T TO IN THE PLAYOFFS.

FIRE WOODY

L

April 30th, 2010
8:15 pm

can’t wait to hear what Charles has to say

Clyde

April 30th, 2010
8:16 pm

IF THE HAWKS LOSE THEY NEED TO STAY IN MILWAUKEE

FIRE WOODY

Shut your Trap

April 30th, 2010
8:16 pm

Clyde,

Do you have a man-crush on Woody?

L

April 30th, 2010
8:16 pm

oh my bad…its espn…maybe that’s why we’re playing so horribly.

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:16 pm

on a serious note…thats some pretty cold stuff@L

I mean, atleast the so called “team leaders” should have been there…if not most of the team. That’s just not what’s hot.

Blast

April 30th, 2010
8:16 pm

Joe ain’t taking us home if he continues to play selfish and not score the ball. How long can his teammates tolerate that?

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
8:17 pm

college basketball..

jean

April 30th, 2010
8:19 pm

bibby is a waste of space y did he take crawford out when he has 7 points in the quarter in 7 minutes 7 out of 18 they scored…he take him out with 5 min left guy woodson is not a coach a joke

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
8:19 pm

switching everything is a luxury not a primary defense… hopefully Woodson sees that now..

cp

April 30th, 2010
8:19 pm

Pathetic. Nothing but 1 on 1. Guys are not sharing the ball. No production from pretty much 4 of the 5 starters. I guess they forgot this is an elimination game.

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:20 pm

If we have another 4th quarter meltdown, Woodson’s belongings up there in ATL should already be packed and outside.

hawkfan

April 30th, 2010
8:21 pm

since our year is almost up, can we throw a goodbye party for mike woodson or more like a celebration for the end of the woody era

Clyde

April 30th, 2010
8:23 pm

Shoutout to all those who actually thought Woody was going to make adjustments for game 6

FIRE WOODY

Clyde

April 30th, 2010
8:24 pm

WOODY FAREWELL PARTY SATURDAY NIGHT AT THE LUCKIE LOUNGE

FIRE WOODY

Blast

April 30th, 2010
8:24 pm

For only two bench players to show up for Jamal’s award, maybe the first end of year award a Hawk player has won since Dikembe, for the entire team not to show up, shows a polarity amongst the players. That really sucks. Smacks of jealousy, maybe that’s why Hawks players are all trying to do it alone tonight in game 6.

Hawks were moving the ball in the first qrt, getting good results, in the 2nd, they somehow did a 360, and Joe started ball hogging. If Joe thinks he’s gonna make his name and get a big contract hogging the ball and not producing, he is wrong. I don’t mind him ball hogging if he scores or gets to the line. But when he throws up a missed tough shot or turn the ball over? Ugh! Joe, you are not LeBron, Wade or Kobe.

WHY???

April 30th, 2010
8:26 pm

I remember Iceman Gervin scored 33pts in a qtr by himself, lol

Wabe

April 30th, 2010
8:26 pm

They didn’t forget it’s an elimination game, they’re playing the way they always play, it’s just not effective.

“Iso’s have worked for us…”
“Switching is what we do…”

We’ve played decent defense, yet we still trail. We’re in shambles on the offensive end of the floor.

GoBuckYourself

April 30th, 2010
8:26 pm

Is Josh Smith still seriously wearing that little band-aid from Wednesday’s game? And at what point will he resort to a spandex unitard? He’s already got something on each elbow and knee. Time to switch to the body suit.

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:27 pm

We have to beat these guys, when I saw those lame people outside the stadium with deer antlers on and stuff, I just couldnt take it.

Clyde

April 30th, 2010
8:27 pm

BIBBY IS A PIMP. HE KNEW HE ONLY HAD ONE MORE GOOD YEAR IN HIM WHEN HE CAME HERE. HE PLAYED GOOD ENOUGH TO GET A NEW CONTRACT NOW HE HAS SHUT IT DOWN AND WE ARE STUCK WITH HIM.

ROOKIES WILL PLAY HARD TO PROVE THEMSELVES BUT VETERANS WILL QUIT ON YOU.

FIRE WOODY

Geemack

April 30th, 2010
8:27 pm

Can they please get some spacing and pass the ball around. Stop dribbling so much.

BJ & Salmon have 6 point between them and the Hawks are still down by 3? That’s not a good sign.

Voice

April 30th, 2010
8:28 pm

I was so mad when Josh Smith talked about The City of Milwaukee ! That was the same tactic that Joakim Noah implemented against Cleveland and it didn’t work! Winning teams don’t focus on such silly things,they focus on winning!

The Hawks have no damn heart and all Joe Johnson does when they lose is mumble and he’s supposed to be the leader!!!!! I knew he was weak when that little man Mo Williams got in his grill last year.

I was hoping that Josh had changed but he’s nothing but a wanna be that is desperate to get in the clique with the upper tier players,sorry no one on The Hawks team fit the category.The Hawks lack that killer instinct and I blame The coach for not instilling that into The Hawks.The Bucks need to get this embarrassing team out of their misery….

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
8:28 pm

so Blast..

u prefer Joe to pass it to someone else so they can go iso (1 on 1)..? ill take my chances with Joe.. the problem aint Joe.. he’s just doing what he’s asked to do..

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
8:28 pm

Hey Mac I dedeicate this song to Joe. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytOchwtcf4U

northcyde

April 30th, 2010
8:30 pm

Well . . .this could be much worse. An elite team would have us down 15 right now. So to be down 3 is a blessing.

JJ started out hot, but is 1 for his last 7

Hawks can’t convert offensive rebounds into points. We have 9 offensive boards, but maybe 4 points off of those boards.

Starting lineup is 10 – 30 FG

here we go

Geemack

April 30th, 2010
8:30 pm

2nd half getting ready to start, please stop turning the ball over.

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
8:30 pm

who in this series has shown they can score consistently?

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:30 pm

woooow@venom …i forgot about…i loved that as a small kid lmfao!!!!

Wabe

April 30th, 2010
8:31 pm

Mike Bibby better have a big half…

That’s all I’m saying.

Clocking way too many minutes to be sitting idle.

Wabe

April 30th, 2010
8:33 pm

That’s a start.

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:33 pm

that last cam shot of Woodson looked like he had a meeting with JACK DANIELS in his office before the game, poor guy, He knows he’s on that midnight delta jet out of Georgia.

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
8:34 pm

Marvin cant keep delfino in front of him?

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
8:35 pm

If only the Hawks had Dion Golver….If only

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3343.jpg We miss u Dion

Geemack

April 30th, 2010
8:35 pm

That’s 4 trips down court, and 4 straight jump shots.