
It wasn't too long ago the Hawks were in control of this series. Can they get it back?
So we know the reasons to doubt the Hawks can win tonight. But I keep seeing comments on this blog and hearing people on talk radio expressing a strange sense that they believe the Hawks will win tonight. They qualify their statements to say there are so many logical reasons for them not to feel that way but some kind of hunch tells them the Hawks will do it. The Hawks have been known to be unpredictable.
It’s not out of the question, of course. This is especially true if you still believe the Hawks, when playing to their full potential, are a better team than the Bucks. When the AJC’s Jeff Schultz cornered ASG’s Michael Gearon Jr. , the co-owner made the point that this was the overwhelming view after the Hawks won Games 1 and 2. Now the emotions have swung the other way, which happens in the playoffs. Combine those sentiments with the Hawks’ problems on the road, the Game 5 meltdown, the pressure they are feeling, etc. and it’s not hard to see why there is widespread pessimism that the Hawks can pull it off.
Still, if you try it’s also possible to spin some of what happened on Wednesday into positives. Will J.J., Jamal and Bibby all have terrible shooting nights at the same time again? J.J. probably isn’t going to foul out again since he’s hardly ever done so in his career. It’s doubtful Josh will have to miss minutes because of a busted eye (though I guess you never know with Kurt Thomas out there).
And then there’s the psychology of tonight’s game. No doubt the Hawks are under tremendous pressure to win but what about the Bucks? They don’t have to win tonight but I can’t think they’d be eager to return to Philips since even they know they were fortunate to win Game 5. It’s easy to say it would be no big deal for the Bucks if they end up losing this series because they’ve already fared better than most anyone expected. But now that they are on the verge of springing a major upset while tonight enjoying what has been a tremendous home court advantage, they don’t want to turn back.
Even TNT talking head Charles Barkley, who has ripped the Hawks for their half court offense and players’ attitudes, took up that line of thinking (props to the AJC’s Ken Sugiura for bringing it to my attention).
“The Hawks have a chance,” Barkley said. “This is going to be a very difficult game for Milwaukee. This is the first time that they have the monkey on their back. They have been playing with house money the first five games of the series. When this series started no one thought they could win without Bogut. Then they win the first game and they get somewhat back into it.”
– Super commenter Niremetal emailed in response to yesterday’s blog post on the Hawks’ need for a ‘Zo-like presence:
“Do you think it’s possible to simply bring someone in who commands that kind of respect? I suspect that at least some part of the respect that Zo had stemmed from the fact that he’d been around Miami before, and knew both the coach and a couple of his teammates pretty well. The Hawks’ core has been together for 3 years now. Do you think that if a guy like Haslem or Grant Hill came in, he would get the ear of his teammates like that? I mean, Flip Saunders got tuned out by his players in Detroit. If long-time teammates can tune out a coach, I’d imagine they could tune out a player.”
Niremetal makes a great point. In fact, when ‘Zo was with the Nets in 2004-05, reports out of New Jersey suggested the established Nets players didn’t buy into his leadership style. But the Nets were a different situation than the Hawks. When Zo joined the Nets they were a veteran group that had already been to the Finals. So I could see where Nets players didn’t necessarily appreciate Zo coming in and telling them they needed better focus no matter how hard he worked
It’s also true Zo already had major cred within the Heat organization when he re-joined the team, and his close relationship with Pat Riley also didn’t hurt his standing. It could be that a Zo-like presence on the Hawks could upset the chemistry, which has been pretty good in general (with the notable exception of the bickering we’ve seen when things have been tight in this series).
But how could the Hawks shun a hardened vet who joins the team? The Hawks are a veteran team in the sense that they now have guys who’ve been around but, barring an unexpected run over the next couple weeks, what have they done in the postseason? Not say the Hawks haven’t earned some respect but so far they certainly haven’t made their name in the playoffs. This doesn’t mean the Hawks’ core guys wouldn’t chafe at an accomplished, outspoken guy with a forceful personality coming in as an outsider but it does mean they’d have less of a basis to complain.
–Have fun, Hawks fans.
MC
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o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 30th, 2010
7:58 pm
lol@joe showboat dribbin
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 30th, 2010
7:59 pm
dribblin*
WHY???
April 30th, 2010
7:59 pm
DAMN HAWKS PASS THE BALL
VenomSpitter
April 30th, 2010
7:59 pm
LOL @ mac
VenomSpitter
April 30th, 2010
8:00 pm
Man the Magic would beat the hawks by 40 pts a game lol
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 30th, 2010
8:00 pm
Why pass the ball when you can look cool dribblin between ur legs going 1 on 5 like some guys hoopin at the rec center under woodson “do it yourself” offensive scheme
Melvin
April 30th, 2010
8:00 pm
Where is the ball movement? Why are we trying to dribble thru 2 people
bigdave
April 30th, 2010
8:01 pm
how can they call Joe for that and Bucks doing that all night..
VenomSpitter
April 30th, 2010
8:01 pm
Big Ray refuses to see how dumb Josh is lol
Clyde
April 30th, 2010
8:01 pm
Iso Joe out of a timeout
FIRE WOODY
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 30th, 2010
8:01 pm
lmfao
steven
April 30th, 2010
8:02 pm
all of the sudden we forgot how to dribble the ball
JoBjo
April 30th, 2010
8:02 pm
Joe has easy shot and won’t take it, then pounds the ball in and throws up a prayer. take the first easy shot. puhleeeeese.
VenomSpitter
April 30th, 2010
8:02 pm
Damn Bob said “Hold on Hawks halftime is almost here” lol
This is worse than a disaster it’s a catastrophe LOL
Melvin
April 30th, 2010
8:02 pm
Hawks look like they are playing street ball…
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 30th, 2010
8:03 pm
lol same o same o
why is josh smith attemptin to take guys off the dribble???
we might as well post up bibby
bigdave
April 30th, 2010
8:03 pm
everybody going 1 on 1.. defense looks better could’ve been doing this all series and been playing orl tomorrow…
but the same problems on offense.. who exactly do you want the ball handler to pass to? look how the teammates are positioned on the floor..
Sautee
April 30th, 2010
8:03 pm
Sure is a lot of ISO. But no “supernova” so far.
WHY???
April 30th, 2010
8:04 pm
I think secretly the players are throwin this series to get Woody fired
FIRE WOODY NOW!!
before Halftime
Blast
April 30th, 2010
8:04 pm
Hawks stopped moving the ball again. Joe, if ya gonna play one on five, ya better make those floaters.
Why is Jamal on the bench?
hawkfan
April 30th, 2010
8:04 pm
RIGHT VENOM SPITTER that’s why we might as well throw this game to save more embarrassment from the entire league, we lost our mojo and time is running out for our 50+ win season
Clyde
April 30th, 2010
8:04 pm
I THINK THE HAWKS MIGHT HAVE GIVEN UP
FIRE WOODY
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 30th, 2010
8:04 pm
is this what’s hot in the streets?? strugglin with the bucks?? no adjustments???
Vick Supporter
April 30th, 2010
8:04 pm
its all over
Clyde
April 30th, 2010
8:05 pm
ITS SAD WHEN U ONLY HAVE ONE PLAY IN YOUR PLAYBOOK
FIRE WOODY
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 30th, 2010
8:05 pm
One of mike woodson’s children has to be named Isolesha or somethin…
MoeHawk
April 30th, 2010
8:06 pm
Horrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible
VenomSpitter
April 30th, 2010
8:06 pm
Mac is that the one Teague slept with lol
BONEY
April 30th, 2010
8:06 pm
Whoever thinks the game is over is rather dumb . . .
Vick Supporter
April 30th, 2010
8:06 pm
no passing whatsoever
VenomSpitter
April 30th, 2010
8:06 pm
wtf was that lol
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 30th, 2010
8:07 pm
lol and posted the vid on the net@Venom
its the only explanation
WHY???
April 30th, 2010
8:07 pm
Damn man these dudes aint sharing the ball at all
Clyde
April 30th, 2010
8:07 pm
“THESE GUYS DO NOT SHARE THE STONE AT ALL”
FIRE WOODY
bigdave
April 30th, 2010
8:07 pm
29 pts.
O'Brien
April 30th, 2010
8:07 pm
How can people blame the players for poor execution on offense when the coach says “I don’t give a $hit about offense’.
We held bucks to 19 first quarter points. Unfortunately we only scored 16…SMH
Melvin
April 30th, 2010
8:08 pm
why did we sign Joe Smith again?
MoeHawk
April 30th, 2010
8:08 pm
All bodying up on al horford an no whistle!!! U gotta be kiddin me!
WHY???
April 30th, 2010
8:08 pm
No leader on the team to settle them down
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 30th, 2010
8:08 pm
Joe Johnson needs to get a headband and some tattoos and then he will be respected in the league LMFAO
WHY???
April 30th, 2010
8:09 pm
Amazingly as crappy as we have played we are only down 3pts
Clyde
April 30th, 2010
8:09 pm
ZAZA AND JOE STARTING TO ARGUE. SMH
FIRE WOODY
bigdave
April 30th, 2010
8:09 pm
damn shame.. my goodness..
WHY???
April 30th, 2010
8:09 pm
we pass the ball and we miss lol
JoBjo
April 30th, 2010
8:09 pm
have these guys played together before?
VenomSpitter
April 30th, 2010
8:09 pm
I hope Teague is the one whotells woody:
“YOUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRR FIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED”
Like Vince McMahon lol
Blast
April 30th, 2010
8:10 pm
This is not the same Hawks team that won 53 games. That team didn’t play out of sorts like this and turn the ball over so much.
Melvin
April 30th, 2010
8:10 pm
Jennings is keeping the Hawks in the game with his turnovers and missed shots.
Shut your Trap
April 30th, 2010
8:10 pm
Clyde – you are a one-trick pony !!
Clyde
April 30th, 2010
8:10 pm
THE ONLY THING THE HAWKS ARE DOING WELL IS CUTTING OFF THE DRIBBLE DRIVE TO THE BASKET.
FIRE WOODY