Atlanta Hawks at Bucks Game 6: It’s Not Over

It wasn't too long ago the Hawks were in control of this series. Can they get it back?

It wasn't too long ago the Hawks were in control of this series. Can they get it back?

So we know the reasons to doubt the Hawks can win tonight. But I keep seeing comments on this blog and hearing people on talk radio expressing a strange sense that they believe the Hawks will win tonight. They qualify their statements to say there are so many logical reasons for them not to feel that way but some kind of hunch tells them the Hawks will do it. The Hawks have been known to be unpredictable.

It’s not out of the question, of course. This is especially true if you still believe the Hawks, when playing to their full potential, are a better team than the Bucks. When the AJC’s Jeff Schultz cornered ASG’s Michael Gearon Jr. , the co-owner made the point that this was the overwhelming view after the Hawks won Games 1 and 2. Now the emotions have swung the other way, which happens in the playoffs. Combine those sentiments with the Hawks’ problems on the road, the Game 5 meltdown, the pressure they are feeling, etc. and it’s not hard to see why there is widespread pessimism that the Hawks can pull it off.

Still, if you try it’s also possible to spin some of what happened on Wednesday into positives. Will J.J., Jamal and Bibby all have terrible shooting nights at the same time again? J.J. probably isn’t going to foul out again since he’s hardly ever done so in his career. It’s doubtful Josh will have to miss minutes because of a busted eye (though I guess you never know with Kurt Thomas out there).

And then there’s the psychology of tonight’s game. No doubt the Hawks are under tremendous pressure to win but what about the Bucks? They don’t have to win tonight but I can’t think they’d be eager to return to Philips since even they know they were fortunate to win Game 5. It’s easy to say it would be no big deal for the Bucks if they end up losing this series because they’ve already fared better than most anyone expected. But now that they are on the verge of springing a major upset while tonight enjoying what has been a tremendous home court advantage, they don’t want to turn back.

Even TNT talking head Charles Barkley, who has ripped the Hawks for their half court offense and players’ attitudes, took up that line of thinking (props to the AJC’s Ken Sugiura for bringing it to my attention).

“The Hawks have a chance,” Barkley said. “This is going to be a very difficult game for Milwaukee. This is the first time that they have the monkey on their back. They have been playing with house money the first five games of the series. When this series started no one thought they could win without Bogut. Then they win the first game and they get somewhat back into it.”

– Super commenter Niremetal emailed in response to yesterday’s blog post on the Hawks’ need for a ‘Zo-like presence:

“Do you think it’s possible to simply bring someone in who commands that kind of respect? I suspect that at least some part of the respect that Zo had stemmed from the fact that he’d been around Miami before, and knew both the coach and a couple of his teammates pretty well. The Hawks’ core has been together for 3 years now. Do you think that if a guy like Haslem or Grant Hill came in, he would get the ear of his teammates like that? I mean, Flip Saunders got tuned out by his players in Detroit. If long-time teammates can tune out a coach, I’d imagine they could tune out a player.”

Niremetal makes a great point. In fact, when ‘Zo was with the Nets in 2004-05, reports out of New Jersey suggested the established Nets players didn’t buy into his leadership style. But the Nets were a different situation than the Hawks. When Zo joined the Nets they were a veteran group that had already been to the Finals. So I could see where Nets players didn’t necessarily appreciate Zo coming in and telling them they needed better focus no matter how hard he worked

It’s also true Zo already had major cred within the Heat organization when he re-joined the team, and his close relationship with Pat Riley also didn’t hurt his standing. It could be that a Zo-like presence on the Hawks could upset the chemistry, which has been pretty good in general (with the notable exception of the bickering we’ve seen when things have been tight in this series).

But how could the Hawks shun a hardened vet who joins the team? The Hawks are a veteran team in the sense that they now have guys who’ve been around but, barring an unexpected run over the next couple weeks, what have they done in the postseason? Not say the Hawks haven’t earned some respect but so far they certainly haven’t made their name in the playoffs. This doesn’t mean the Hawks’ core guys wouldn’t chafe at an accomplished, outspoken guy with a forceful personality coming in as an outsider but it does mean they’d have less of a basis to complain.

–Have fun, Hawks fans.

MC

657 comments Add your comment

ncat96

April 30th, 2010
9:35 pm

Ok . . . good . . they are fouling us . . . the game should be over . . . right?

Vick Supporter

April 30th, 2010
9:35 pm

F the “fear the deer”

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:36 pm

From Sekou’s twitter:

“If Hawks had played like this down the stretch in Game 5 they’d be leaving Milwaukee for Orlando after this game.”

Co-sign.

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:36 pm

poop..

i mean.. in the sand, his hand… something.. shiiiiiii … i dunno…

Patrick

April 30th, 2010
9:36 pm

Of course, the downside. It is now somewhat more likely Mike Woodson retains his job.

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 30th, 2010
9:37 pm

Good news??? we win

Bad news??? we played the same way…lots of 1-on-5, no movement on O…switching on D

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:37 pm

“Josh Smith sucks”? That’s the best they can do?

Wabe

April 30th, 2010
9:37 pm

J.Smith sux…..?

lol

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
9:37 pm

Josh is giving it to the crowd….

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
9:37 pm

Woody just grabbed the refs azz lol

Blast

April 30th, 2010
9:37 pm

Well, Hawks showed heart by winning a road playoff game. But that does not let them off the hook. Woody had to call more timeouts than normal tonight to get his team back in order. But Bucks won at Philips, so Hawks have to bring it again.

Best thing about this game? Bucks did not make all the crazy shots they made in the last 3 games, and Hawks played way better. But it’s not over yet! Bucks won in the ATL game 5!

JoBjo

April 30th, 2010
9:37 pm

Salmon’s looks tired :(

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:38 pm

i know Josh wish he could go up an yolk one right now..

ncat96

April 30th, 2010
9:38 pm

Josh is giving it to the Bucks in general . . .

Roy

April 30th, 2010
9:38 pm

This is kind of stunning. Even when they are losing, the Buck fans look ecstatic and full of joy and laughter…

d.carter

April 30th, 2010
9:39 pm

why in the hell dont we force the ballhandler off of the 1-5 pick and roll… make kurt thomas beat you… woody is an idiot

Joe's place Joe speaking

April 30th, 2010
9:39 pm

I told y’all!!! Go get those game 7 tickets baby!!!!!!!!! You never give up!!! I told y’all to mark my words and to have confidence and look what happens!!!!!

terrell

April 30th, 2010
9:39 pm

The Bucks players look like they already had their bags packed for Orlando.lol!

JoBjo

April 30th, 2010
9:40 pm

Josh just can’t shut his mouth and listen to the coach.

Patrick

April 30th, 2010
9:40 pm

Also curious where all the Wisconsin people that were up on these boards a few days ago are now? I can only assume drowning their sorrows in melted cheese, straight from the can.

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:40 pm

what Josh and Al talking bout..

JoBjo

April 30th, 2010
9:40 pm

Mario makes Delfino shoot a air ball.

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
9:41 pm

Mil is classless

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:41 pm

WELCOME BACK TO THE BIRD CAGE!!

JoBjo

April 30th, 2010
9:41 pm

thank you Hawks!

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
9:42 pm

Regardless of wat happens in game 7 or the next series Woody better be gone next year.

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
9:42 pm

Yes sir… Way to play in a road closeout game….

Blast

April 30th, 2010
9:42 pm

If Hawks had played this way in game 3 or 4, they would have wrapped this series up long ago. Great road win!

Where them Bucks fans now?

Clyde

April 30th, 2010
9:45 pm

HAWKS WIN GAME 6

FIRE WOODY

terrell

April 30th, 2010
9:45 pm

The most unpredictable team in the history of sports. Btw, did Marvin see the floor in the 4th?

Clyde

April 30th, 2010
9:45 pm

ITS FIRE WOODY WHEN WE WIN AND FIRE WOODY WHEN WE LOSE

FIRE WOODY

Sautee

April 30th, 2010
9:45 pm

This could be a defining moment.

Unless we lose Sunday.

Or unless we go down 4-0 to the Magic.

But….otherwise, this could be a defining moment. ;-)

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:47 pm

AL:

“I DIDNT HEAR NO FEAR THE DEER THING TONIGHT!!”

darrell starks

April 30th, 2010
9:50 pm

Again big head woody went 2 a six man rotation in the 2nd half he is the most luckies coach i have witnees so far in the history of sports, they almost ran out of gas in the 4th because of woody but we won im happy.
GO HAWKS!!!!!

darrell starks

April 30th, 2010
9:52 pm

Game 7 sunday big day for this franchise.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!

Sautee

April 30th, 2010
9:54 pm

Good game by Horford after guaranteeing a win.

15 and 15.

Even had a blocked shot which gives him 12 for the series.

BONEY

April 30th, 2010
9:54 pm

Nice win Hawks !! Way to quiet all the haters and non-believers.

Clyde

April 30th, 2010
9:57 pm

NICE WIN HAWKS

FIRE WOODY

BONEY

April 30th, 2010
9:58 pm

Where did all the “fake” Hawk fans go (JeJe, VenomSpitter)? Didn’t expect the Hawks to win, did you? LOL !!

BONEY

April 30th, 2010
9:59 pm

Clyde,

You really sound silly with the FIRE WOODY talk right now. Can’t you just enjoy the accomplishment?

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:59 pm

“mainly our man to man defense that gave us the cushion that we needed”

-Woodson

BONEY

April 30th, 2010
10:01 pm

Woody outcoached Scott Skiles tonight – no doubt !!

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
10:03 pm

Big gut-check win for Atlanta. Props to the players for bringing their balls with them, and props to Woody for finally, two games too late, making adjustments to his defensive scheme (although the offense still sucked).

With that said, I thought long and hard about jumping on the FIRE WOODY bandwagon — that wasn’t done on a whim — and one game is not going to change that decision.

Kiki

April 30th, 2010
10:05 pm

Boney, no matter what, Woody should not coach the Hawks next year.

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
10:06 pm

Did some punk name Boney call me out. U need to read thru the posts on here dummy. U dont even know wat im about.

Clyde

April 30th, 2010
10:08 pm

WOODY DIDN’T OUT COACH SKILES. SALMONS AND JENNINGS DIDN’T MAKE SHOTS.

FIRE WOODY

NUNNA!!

April 30th, 2010
10:08 pm

BONEY,
WE JUST OUTPLAYED THE BUCKS..THEY STILL PLAYED HOW THEY ALWAYS PLAY,BUT,THE BUCKS WERE JUST A “DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS”TONITE..THEY LOOKED TIGHT AND WERE NERVOUS..

SKILES DID OUTCOACH WOODY TONITE..HE GOT WOODY TO GET A LIL NERVOUSE AND PLAY A MOSTLY 6 MAN ROTATION ALL FREAKING NITE,AND MOST LIKELY WOODY WILL DO THE SAME THING ON SUNDAY..BUT,HOW WILL HE REACT IF WE HAVE TIRED LEGS ON SUNDAY??

WE SHOULD WIN..BUT IT MIGHT BE REAL,REAL CLOSE WITH OUR LEGS A LIL RUBBERY AFTER TONITE

NUNNA!!

April 30th, 2010
10:09 pm

CORRECTION: NERVOUS

Clyde

April 30th, 2010
10:09 pm

WASN’T BONEY THE DUDE THAT FLOODED THE BLOG WIT FIRE WOODYS WHEN WE LOST GAME 5?

FIRE WOODY

Clyde

April 30th, 2010
10:10 pm

BONEY IS A DUMMY

FIRE WOODY