Atlanta Hawks at Bucks Game 6: It’s Not Over

It wasn't too long ago the Hawks were in control of this series. Can they get it back?

It wasn't too long ago the Hawks were in control of this series. Can they get it back?

So we know the reasons to doubt the Hawks can win tonight. But I keep seeing comments on this blog and hearing people on talk radio expressing a strange sense that they believe the Hawks will win tonight. They qualify their statements to say there are so many logical reasons for them not to feel that way but some kind of hunch tells them the Hawks will do it. The Hawks have been known to be unpredictable.

It’s not out of the question, of course. This is especially true if you still believe the Hawks, when playing to their full potential, are a better team than the Bucks. When the AJC’s Jeff Schultz cornered ASG’s Michael Gearon Jr. , the co-owner made the point that this was the overwhelming view after the Hawks won Games 1 and 2. Now the emotions have swung the other way, which happens in the playoffs. Combine those sentiments with the Hawks’ problems on the road, the Game 5 meltdown, the pressure they are feeling, etc. and it’s not hard to see why there is widespread pessimism that the Hawks can pull it off.

Still, if you try it’s also possible to spin some of what happened on Wednesday into positives. Will J.J., Jamal and Bibby all have terrible shooting nights at the same time again? J.J. probably isn’t going to foul out again since he’s hardly ever done so in his career. It’s doubtful Josh will have to miss minutes because of a busted eye (though I guess you never know with Kurt Thomas out there).

And then there’s the psychology of tonight’s game. No doubt the Hawks are under tremendous pressure to win but what about the Bucks? They don’t have to win tonight but I can’t think they’d be eager to return to Philips since even they know they were fortunate to win Game 5. It’s easy to say it would be no big deal for the Bucks if they end up losing this series because they’ve already fared better than most anyone expected. But now that they are on the verge of springing a major upset while tonight enjoying what has been a tremendous home court advantage, they don’t want to turn back.

Even TNT talking head Charles Barkley, who has ripped the Hawks for their half court offense and players’ attitudes, took up that line of thinking (props to the AJC’s Ken Sugiura for bringing it to my attention).

“The Hawks have a chance,” Barkley said. “This is going to be a very difficult game for Milwaukee. This is the first time that they have the monkey on their back. They have been playing with house money the first five games of the series. When this series started no one thought they could win without Bogut. Then they win the first game and they get somewhat back into it.”

– Super commenter Niremetal emailed in response to yesterday’s blog post on the Hawks’ need for a ‘Zo-like presence:

“Do you think it’s possible to simply bring someone in who commands that kind of respect? I suspect that at least some part of the respect that Zo had stemmed from the fact that he’d been around Miami before, and knew both the coach and a couple of his teammates pretty well. The Hawks’ core has been together for 3 years now. Do you think that if a guy like Haslem or Grant Hill came in, he would get the ear of his teammates like that? I mean, Flip Saunders got tuned out by his players in Detroit. If long-time teammates can tune out a coach, I’d imagine they could tune out a player.”

Niremetal makes a great point. In fact, when ‘Zo was with the Nets in 2004-05, reports out of New Jersey suggested the established Nets players didn’t buy into his leadership style. But the Nets were a different situation than the Hawks. When Zo joined the Nets they were a veteran group that had already been to the Finals. So I could see where Nets players didn’t necessarily appreciate Zo coming in and telling them they needed better focus no matter how hard he worked

It’s also true Zo already had major cred within the Heat organization when he re-joined the team, and his close relationship with Pat Riley also didn’t hurt his standing. It could be that a Zo-like presence on the Hawks could upset the chemistry, which has been pretty good in general (with the notable exception of the bickering we’ve seen when things have been tight in this series).

But how could the Hawks shun a hardened vet who joins the team? The Hawks are a veteran team in the sense that they now have guys who’ve been around but, barring an unexpected run over the next couple weeks, what have they done in the postseason? Not say the Hawks haven’t earned some respect but so far they certainly haven’t made their name in the playoffs. This doesn’t mean the Hawks’ core guys wouldn’t chafe at an accomplished, outspoken guy with a forceful personality coming in as an outsider but it does mean they’d have less of a basis to complain.

–Have fun, Hawks fans.

MC

657 comments Add your comment

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:16 pm

thats why you keep a pg in the game..

see Bibby can actually stay in the game late when his coach is not exploiting him defensively…

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
9:17 pm

foul jennings just dont let him get a lay up

Elliot

April 30th, 2010
9:17 pm

Good timeout there, can’t give this team any life. There fans go crazy when they score a point even if atlanta is on a 20-1 run.

hawkfan

April 30th, 2010
9:17 pm

i still feel the hawks can blow this game

Elliot

April 30th, 2010
9:18 pm

Correction: *Their fans

NUNNA!!

April 30th, 2010
9:19 pm

up by 13 with over 8 mins left in da 4th qtr..
keep trading baskets and stop them a few times and we can win this game

northcyde

April 30th, 2010
9:19 pm

As I type this . . JJ was 6 – 19 FG . . . he’s missed 13 of his last 16 shots. Homie, you’re lucky the team is playing the best defense of the year . . otherwise, they’d kidnap you and toss you into the oily Gulf of Mexico.

So make 3 more shots or get 3 dimes, and let’s seal this game up.

Blast

April 30th, 2010
9:20 pm

Love that Woodson kept Crawford and Mike in the game in the 2nd.

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:20 pm

“Sigh! Sounds simple, inni’t? Why isn’t it so with Hawks?”

sometimes it takes a hot seat to open eyes and suggestions for change. u still see some stubbornness.. and im still not at all satisfied with the offense. u see we still arent in the clear for this one..

NUNNA!!

April 30th, 2010
9:20 pm

randmo is on da bench with his speedy claxton wear..a freaking suit!!
its just collins as the big man on da bench

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
9:20 pm

Joe is a ballhog

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:21 pm

Joe is trippin for not giving that ball to Josh right there posting Salmons.. thats bull..

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:21 pm

Bad shots from both teams. The Hawks don’t get anything going within 10 feet of the hoop. That is not a smart way to play.

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
9:21 pm

uh oh the choke has begun

JoBjo

April 30th, 2010
9:21 pm

???? u gotta be kidding???

WHY???

April 30th, 2010
9:21 pm

the ref bought that flop lol

Wabe

April 30th, 2010
9:21 pm

Kurt Thomas flops so bad…

But you gotta know he’s gonna do that.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:22 pm

I’m sure Teague would have committed an 8-point foul instead. Bibby you gotta be kidding me. This is our seasoned veteran? This is probably the 4th or 5th brain fart he has had in crunch time in this series. F-cking idiot.

hawkfan

April 30th, 2010
9:22 pm

told yall, we can still blow it

Wabe

April 30th, 2010
9:22 pm

Milking that clock does no good if you don’t get buckets.

Blast

April 30th, 2010
9:22 pm

The foul occured before the shot. How can you count that?

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
9:22 pm

Joe is throwing the game

NUNNA!!

April 30th, 2010
9:22 pm

ok fellas..we don’t need no 4qtr. drought,but like i said before,we have da same set of a 6 man rotation since halftime..legs are getting tired

JoBjo

April 30th, 2010
9:22 pm

then Josh refused to rebound.

Wabe

April 30th, 2010
9:22 pm

Man, that’s too funny.

He called that after we got the board.

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:22 pm

thats a horrible call.. was great d..

wow.. Joe is on some other..

WHY???

April 30th, 2010
9:23 pm

refs need to cmon

Blast

April 30th, 2010
9:23 pm

Told you all Hawks can still turn this game!

fudd21

April 30th, 2010
9:23 pm

i have a very bad feeling about this game. we don’t know how to close out

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:23 pm

Kurt Thomas may have flopped but Bibby threw his arms out. They will get that call every single time.

That play by itself let the Bucks back into the game. You really, really think ANY rookie mistake by Teague would be that damaging?

Wabe

April 30th, 2010
9:23 pm

Why do we get into ISO-milk the clock mode as soon as we hit that 8 minutes mark?

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
9:23 pm

Damn these Hawks make things hard…

SAL

April 30th, 2010
9:23 pm

Oh Sh*t! Here we go again! Hawks are going to cough up a 20 point lead!

Wabe

April 30th, 2010
9:24 pm

Just flip the culprit…

If JT0 makes that mistake, Woody’s going nuts.

VenomSpitter

April 30th, 2010
9:24 pm

Joe needs to leave this team with woody.

Wabe

April 30th, 2010
9:24 pm

That goes back to what we talked about in respects to accountability.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:24 pm

If Bibby is still on this team next year, the starting point guard position should be an open competition in preseason, even if Teague’s jumper doesn’t improve one bit.

bigemobile

April 30th, 2010
9:24 pm

Sautee

April 30th, 2010
9:24 pm

OK, let’s see what we’re made of.

Have we practiced having poise?

WHY???

April 30th, 2010
9:24 pm

Woody is drawing up an ISO play

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:25 pm

this is why you need an offense.

jacob cordell

April 30th, 2010
9:25 pm

Wabe

April 30th, 2010
9:25 pm

Be real…

A PG that gives you spot shooting should be getting spot time…

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:25 pm

Hawks offense has come to a screeching halt.

WHY???

April 30th, 2010
9:25 pm

Get that crap outta here

Melvin

April 30th, 2010
9:25 pm

Jumpshot, jumpshot, jumpshot.

Wabe

April 30th, 2010
9:26 pm

Big bucket JJ.

bigdave

April 30th, 2010
9:26 pm

big shot.. but why cant we take advantage of Josh on the caveman?

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2010
9:26 pm

It’s not even like they moved the ball all that well on that possession, but just getting three people to touch the ball got Joe a rhythm jumper that he made. That’s all it really takes.

NUNNA!!

April 30th, 2010
9:26 pm

i tell u what,its too late to make a change now
..too late to sub,unless we go wit defensive adjustments like west and teague up against ridenhour and jennings,and force horford and marvin down on the low blocks and pound inside..we will be lost