Bucks at Atlanta Hawks Game 5: Quiet At Home

The Hawks like it here.

The Hawks like it here.

So how much conversation has there been among the Hawks regarding the rumors swirling around Woody’s future with the team?

“That’s the first I’ve heard about it when you told me,” Al said today at shootaround.

In addition to illustrating the often-insular world players occupy, the lack of buzz on the team about Woody’s status demonstrates that the familiar postures haven’t changed.

Rick Sund still is not going to do address Woody’s deal until after the season and there’s no guarantee an offer (even a “low-ball” one as described in the Yahoo! report) is forthcoming. ASG’s Michael Gearon Jr has suggested the Hawks’ postseason will have a bearing on that decision and others. Woody isn’t happy the Hawks haven’t started contract talks and has said so (though he also says he wants to return). The Hawks believe the lack of an extension hasn’t hurt Woody’s ability to coach the team.

The news to come out of the Yahoo! report is that there could be another job out there for Woody if he doesn’t return and the team’s willingness to sell their first-round draft pick for $3 million to raise money to re-sign J.J.. (That everything seems to be Joe-driven is causing great consternation for hawksdawgs at Peachtree Hoops.)

Meanwhile, the Hawks have a playoff series to finish. Asked about the Hawks’ confidence in coming back to Philips Arena, where they’ve won 14 in a row, Al said it “feels good to be back home” but then couldn’t help also talking about the Hawks’ troubles on the road.

“If we had the same swag that we have at home like we have on the road, we’d be a tough team,” he said. “But first we have to handle this game tonight. We are happy to come back here.”

– For all the consternation about the Hawks’ inability to win road playoff games (and I know most of that is because of what it would mean for the next round) this Milwaukee Journal Sentinel headline summed up Milwaukee’s issues: Bucks must win at least once in Atlanta to advance.

Forget for a minute that four games into the series, the Bucks are talking about what it will take to advance instead of how they can avoid elimination. The Hawks desperately need to win. The way they did that in Games 1 and 2 was by slowing Brandon Jennings and hammering the Bucks with Smoove and Al. Look for Milwaukee to use a similar approach against those two tonight:

The Bucks worked hard to frustrate Hawks center Al Horford and forward Josh Smith in Milwaukee, after those players were dominant in the first two games. Bucks forward Luc Richard Mbah a Moute defended Smith in Games 3 and 4 after primarily guarding Hawks guard Joe Johnson in Atlanta, and veteran center Kurt Thomas drew the assignment defending Horford.

And the Bucks have relied on help defense, with Jennings and other guards digging down on the ball when the Hawks’ big men begin to make their move in the paint. That did free up Atlanta’s perimeter players in Game 4, and the Hawks hit 10 of 19 three-pointers, led by Mike Bibby, who sank 5 of 7 attempts.

Smith still had 20 points and nine rebounds in 40 minutes in Game 4, but he wasn’t getting easy dunks off lob passes the way he did earlier in the series.

“He had a good game, and he scores in a variety of ways,” Bucks coach Scott Skiles said of the 6-foot-9 Smith, who was booed loudly by the Bradley Center crowd. “We’ve just got to keep him in front of us, try to make him take contested jump shots, try to keep him off the boards.

“We need to keep him from running out in transition, keep him from getting lobs after timeouts. We did that in both home games. Those are areas where at least we can have a little say-so in what he’s doing.”

– Woody has said he uses the switching defense to “hide” weak defenders. Brett LaGree, writing at Hoopinion, agrees but says switching also can make things harder for those weak defenders and the good ones:

It is hard to play good team defense without good defensive players.

Mike Bibby is a poor defender. Jamal Crawford is a terrible defender. Joe Johnson has amply demonstrated he cannot keep Brandon Jennings in front of him. Nor can Johnson fight through a Kurt Thomas screen. It’s no surprise that Mike Woodson has tried to address* these limitations. His singular method of address, to switch every screen, has pushed Josh Smith too often to the perimeter, exposing his primary defensive weakness (lateral movement) while simultaneously negating** his overwhelming strength (help defense).

*We’ll ignore, for the purposes of this discussion, how self-inflicted some of these limitations are.

**This is essentially what Orlando’s stretch 4 does to Smith when the Hawks play, and, typically, lose to the Magic.

MC

677 comments Add your comment

O'Brien

April 28th, 2010
10:32 pm

Thats why JJ needs to pass the ball. but Hawks do this all the time.

And our star has fouled out. Way to go JJ

Wow. hawks down 1

northcyde

April 28th, 2010
10:32 pm

JJ self destructing . . . wow.

All blame is on him if we lose this.

Now we got to do the unthinkable . . . win this WITHOUT HIM!!

Wabe

April 28th, 2010
10:33 pm

Are you kidding me J.Smith?

ARE YOU F’N KIDDING ME?

VenomSpitter

April 28th, 2010
10:33 pm

thats why people say josh is dumb wtf is that.

Ah So Joe

April 28th, 2010
10:33 pm

Josh for three?? He is an idiot.

Big Ray

April 28th, 2010
10:33 pm

BONEY,

Please. You don’t read enough.

Wabe

April 28th, 2010
10:33 pm

NO F’N WAY!

bigdave

April 28th, 2010
10:33 pm

now.. what do you do when you have no offense.. and all your offense fouls out because he has to play point guard.

VenomSpitter

April 28th, 2010
10:33 pm

The Hawks are trash

Nique's Revenge

April 28th, 2010
10:33 pm

BYE WOODROW!!!

FIRE WOODY

Wabe

April 28th, 2010
10:33 pm

VenomSpitter

April 28th, 2010
10:33 pm

Josh is the dumbest player on the team.

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 28th, 2010
10:33 pm

down by 1 with a min and a half left and our best shot is Josh Smith taking a 3???

NUNNA!!

April 28th, 2010
10:34 pm

WOODY IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VenomSpitter

April 28th, 2010
10:34 pm

Season is gone

terrell

April 28th, 2010
10:34 pm

See ya Woody!

Nique's Revenge

April 28th, 2010
10:34 pm

SOOOOOOOOO anyone on the phone with Avery Johnson??

BONE

April 28th, 2010
10:34 pm

PUT A FORK N US

VenomSpitter

April 28th, 2010
10:35 pm

Josh might need to be traded for that dumb sh.it he just did.

O'Brien

April 28th, 2010
10:35 pm

So lets see. The Hawks go on a scoring drought, while the Bucks go on a 13-0 run in the fourth.

Didnt we see that all the time during the regular seaosn. but we were told that what happens in the regular seaosn does not matter?

But hey. Why should Woody care about offense…

bigdave

April 28th, 2010
10:35 pm

no.. Joe made the pass.. thats why you have to have plays people. too much iso. this coach doesnt know how to use his talent.

BONEY

April 28th, 2010
10:35 pm

Nique’s Revenge,

Fire the players – not Woody – they are the one’s who let it get away.

Melvin

April 28th, 2010
10:35 pm

What a terrible sequence of plays by Josh and Joe…

Nique's Revenge

April 28th, 2010
10:35 pm

and how much money does joe johnson want?

Ah So Joe

April 28th, 2010
10:35 pm

I hope they lose. Maybe they GM will get a clue adn dump the coach and a couple of the thugz. Of course when the ownership is looking to sell the #1 draft choice, the future isn’t exactly bright.

terrell

April 28th, 2010
10:35 pm

Josh Smith for 3eeeee! Wtf??

VenomSpitter

April 28th, 2010
10:35 pm

Where are all the optimists now.

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 28th, 2010
10:36 pm

laughably pathetic

d.carter

April 28th, 2010
10:36 pm

keep switching horford on brandon jennings REAL SMART WOODY

Big Ray

April 28th, 2010
10:36 pm

Wow. Just wow.

Ah So Joe

April 28th, 2010
10:36 pm

Short arm those shots Crawford. Get your hands away from your throat.

VenomSpitter

April 28th, 2010
10:36 pm

I was right all along when I said Josh was dumb.

bigdave

April 28th, 2010
10:37 pm

all the blame on Joe if we lose?

pfff.. are you serious? what plays were we running there… Joe just did what he always does.. try to drive and find a teammate or finish. out of an iso… the defender just made a play, b/c it was predictable.

northcyde

April 28th, 2010
10:37 pm

Woody’s fault my azz if we lose this.

- JJ with 3 turnovers in the quarter

- Crawford a point blank miss lay up

- Smoove with one of his worse 3 point attempts of al time

STRICTLY ON THE PLAYERS FOLKS !!!!

And JJ has to man up and blame himself.

VenomSpitter

April 28th, 2010
10:37 pm

Back to empty arenas Hawks LMAO

bigdave

April 28th, 2010
10:37 pm

1 on 5 switch… killed us all night.. and Woodson let it happen. again and again.

NUNNA!!

April 28th, 2010
10:38 pm

THEY WENT AWAY FROM WHAT WAS WORKING!!
horford deep inside..marvin attacking..
I like jamaal but he is not ready for the playoffs folks..He has been out of rythm all of this series!

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 28th, 2010
10:38 pm

The Hawks were completely lost

VenomSpitter

April 28th, 2010
10:38 pm

LOL game over

Nique's Revenge

April 28th, 2010
10:38 pm

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bigdave

April 28th, 2010
10:38 pm

Northcyde..

look at this chaos.. chaos.. .players? pfff.. u funny..

d.carter

April 28th, 2010
10:38 pm

WE DONT HAVE AN OFFENSIVE IDENITY AT ALL

I MUS WRITE

April 28th, 2010
10:39 pm

IM Disgusted….See ya Woody

VenomSpitter

April 28th, 2010
10:39 pm

FIRE WOODSON CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP FIRE WOODSON

d.carter

April 28th, 2010
10:39 pm

WHAT HAPPENED TO FEEDING MARVIN

terrell

April 28th, 2010
10:39 pm

Uh oh. Woody’s about to call a play. lol!

VenomSpitter

April 28th, 2010
10:39 pm

PLAYOFFS PLAYOFFS U KIDDIN ME, WE CANT EVEN WIN A GAME.

bigdave

April 28th, 2010
10:40 pm

WE DONT HAVE AN OFFENSIVE IDENITY AT ALL

sums it up. and it came back to kill us.. @ home.. u cant just score on crap all night.. u gotta run something.. he sucks. iso has never won anything… nothing… he has no business coaching.

Wabe

April 28th, 2010
10:40 pm

Mike Woodson,

You’re gone.

Ah So Joe

April 28th, 2010
10:40 pm

At least the Hawks don’t have many fans — to laugh at them. This really is funny. Oh well they can look back on their last championship — in St Louis. That Bob Pettit and Cliff Hagen were something, weren’t they?