
The Hawks like it here.
So how much conversation has there been among the Hawks regarding the rumors swirling around Woody’s future with the team?
“That’s the first I’ve heard about it when you told me,” Al said today at shootaround.
In addition to illustrating the often-insular world players occupy, the lack of buzz on the team about Woody’s status demonstrates that the familiar postures haven’t changed.
Rick Sund still is not going to do address Woody’s deal until after the season and there’s no guarantee an offer (even a “low-ball” one as described in the Yahoo! report) is forthcoming. ASG’s Michael Gearon Jr has suggested the Hawks’ postseason will have a bearing on that decision and others. Woody isn’t happy the Hawks haven’t started contract talks and has said so (though he also says he wants to return). The Hawks believe the lack of an extension hasn’t hurt Woody’s ability to coach the team.
The news to come out of the Yahoo! report is that there could be another job out there for Woody if he doesn’t return and the team’s willingness to sell their first-round draft pick for $3 million to raise money to re-sign J.J.. (That everything seems to be Joe-driven is causing great consternation for hawksdawgs at Peachtree Hoops.)
Meanwhile, the Hawks have a playoff series to finish. Asked about the Hawks’ confidence in coming back to Philips Arena, where they’ve won 14 in a row, Al said it “feels good to be back home” but then couldn’t help also talking about the Hawks’ troubles on the road.
“If we had the same swag that we have at home like we have on the road, we’d be a tough team,” he said. “But first we have to handle this game tonight. We are happy to come back here.”
– For all the consternation about the Hawks’ inability to win road playoff games (and I know most of that is because of what it would mean for the next round) this Milwaukee Journal Sentinel headline summed up Milwaukee’s issues: Bucks must win at least once in Atlanta to advance.
Forget for a minute that four games into the series, the Bucks are talking about what it will take to advance instead of how they can avoid elimination. The Hawks desperately need to win. The way they did that in Games 1 and 2 was by slowing Brandon Jennings and hammering the Bucks with Smoove and Al. Look for Milwaukee to use a similar approach against those two tonight:
The Bucks worked hard to frustrate Hawks center Al Horford and forward Josh Smith in Milwaukee, after those players were dominant in the first two games. Bucks forward Luc Richard Mbah a Moute defended Smith in Games 3 and 4 after primarily guarding Hawks guard Joe Johnson in Atlanta, and veteran center Kurt Thomas drew the assignment defending Horford.
And the Bucks have relied on help defense, with Jennings and other guards digging down on the ball when the Hawks’ big men begin to make their move in the paint. That did free up Atlanta’s perimeter players in Game 4, and the Hawks hit 10 of 19 three-pointers, led by Mike Bibby, who sank 5 of 7 attempts.
Smith still had 20 points and nine rebounds in 40 minutes in Game 4, but he wasn’t getting easy dunks off lob passes the way he did earlier in the series.
“He had a good game, and he scores in a variety of ways,” Bucks coach Scott Skiles said of the 6-foot-9 Smith, who was booed loudly by the Bradley Center crowd. “We’ve just got to keep him in front of us, try to make him take contested jump shots, try to keep him off the boards.
“We need to keep him from running out in transition, keep him from getting lobs after timeouts. We did that in both home games. Those are areas where at least we can have a little say-so in what he’s doing.”
– Woody has said he uses the switching defense to “hide” weak defenders. Brett LaGree, writing at Hoopinion, agrees but says switching also can make things harder for those weak defenders and the good ones:
It is hard to play good team defense without good defensive players.
Mike Bibby is a poor defender. Jamal Crawford is a terrible defender. Joe Johnson has amply demonstrated he cannot keep Brandon Jennings in front of him. Nor can Johnson fight through a Kurt Thomas screen. It’s no surprise that Mike Woodson has tried to address* these limitations. His singular method of address, to switch every screen, has pushed Josh Smith too often to the perimeter, exposing his primary defensive weakness (lateral movement) while simultaneously negating** his overwhelming strength (help defense).
*We’ll ignore, for the purposes of this discussion, how self-inflicted some of these limitations are.
**This is essentially what Orlando’s stretch 4 does to Smith when the Hawks play, and, typically, lose to the Magic.
MC
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Big Ray
April 28th, 2010
10:09 pm
Strategy hour. Some interesting lineups on the floor right now.
drmaryb
April 28th, 2010
10:10 pm
Bucks are like Gnats & Mosquitos! Iam so tired of seeing their Azzes too man!
Hawks in 6!
Wabe
April 28th, 2010
10:11 pm
Jamal hasn’t been Jamal since the playoffs started.
O'Brien
April 28th, 2010
10:11 pm
Wow. Airball by Crawford (just as I say he needs to get it going)
bigdave
April 28th, 2010
10:12 pm
still no pg.
Wabe
April 28th, 2010
10:13 pm
Damn Al, didn’t they tell you?
You’re not supposed to be blocking all these shots in the paint…
BONEY
April 28th, 2010
10:13 pm
“Well, you see, generally when someone does well they get props, and when they do poorly they get criticism. That’s pretty much how the world works”.
Criticism is one thing – totally writing off someone is a different story.
O'Brien
April 28th, 2010
10:13 pm
get that out of here. Hawks looking good on defense
Mel
April 28th, 2010
10:14 pm
what a defensive possesision!!
Wabe
April 28th, 2010
10:15 pm
Just think, why is he being written off?
Nobody wants to see the guy struggle. He just does, on a daily basis.
As I said before, Marvin’s good for a breakout game every now and then, but he hasn’t been able to put it together, yet.
Some have grown impatient waiting for him to put it together.
VenomSpitter
April 28th, 2010
10:17 pm
STOP HAMMERTIME
drmaryb
April 28th, 2010
10:17 pm
T.O. Game Plan: Put in
Zsa, Horford, JJ, Craw, Josh. GO BIG FROM HERE!
6secs: INSIDE. INSIDE. INSIDE. GRIND & DRAW FOULS! WIN IT ON THE FREE THROW LINE!
DEFENSIVE GAME Now! Let’s GO!
Wabe
April 28th, 2010
10:17 pm
“You come out of the timeout, and you can’t get the ball inbounded.”
drmaryb
April 28th, 2010
10:18 pm
No Zsa?
O'Brien
April 28th, 2010
10:19 pm
Fouls are piling up. FTs the rest of the quarter.
Interesting to me, is that the Bucks have played better in ATL compared to how we layed in Milwaukee
VenomSpitter
April 28th, 2010
10:19 pm
Hawks choking. Joe wants to be selfish instead of passin
O'Brien
April 28th, 2010
10:19 pm
Way to go JJ. Trying to be supernova. This could be 2 easy points for the Bucks
bigdave
April 28th, 2010
10:20 pm
no pg Woodson.. keep killing us..
Big Ray
April 28th, 2010
10:20 pm
Aw come on, not now
VenomSpitter
April 28th, 2010
10:20 pm
Dont give it o jj give it to marv
Wabe
April 28th, 2010
10:21 pm
Ridnour continues to impress me.
He’s a solid backup to Jennings.
VenomSpitter
April 28th, 2010
10:21 pm
Man the bucks are coached well
Big Ray
April 28th, 2010
10:21 pm
Wabe ,
I’m gonna say this, and then I’m letting it go. If for some strange reason Marvin “breaks out” next year, that will be the second forward that has taken 5-6 years to develop under Woody. Just sayin’…
Wabe
April 28th, 2010
10:21 pm
Jamal being Jamal….
That’s what I’m talking about.
VenomSpitter
April 28th, 2010
10:22 pm
Josh is so lucky he made that. I was about to chew him out.
bigdave
April 28th, 2010
10:22 pm
switching= running around like a chicken with its head cut off..
and Josh hoist a prayer and it drops..
this coach is an idiooooot.
O'Brien
April 28th, 2010
10:23 pm
We needed that 3 by Crawford, because if he misses, Bucks have the ball with the chance to get it to 2.
And Josh has been shooting jumpers much better this series. Not sure why.
terrell
April 28th, 2010
10:23 pm
This could be Marvin’s showcase game. Maybe we can get some idiot GM to make a trade.
BONEY
April 28th, 2010
10:24 pm
Dang – it’s amazing how ya’ll blame the coach for everything!
terrell
April 28th, 2010
10:25 pm
Big Ray, Marvin plays like this every 10-12 games or so. Where ya been?
Wabe
April 28th, 2010
10:25 pm
Big Ray,
True. You make a valid point.
But, I know of all people, you remember some of the same criticism J.Smith took when he was developing. He was probably one of the most criticized players on the roster up until this season.
I get the comparison. It makes sense.
But, I personally don’t blame those who come off a bit hard on Marvin. The guy showcases his abilities every now and then, so we know he’s capable of these types of nights. I just question the guys focus and self-esteem. It’s hard to understand why he’s so up and down.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 28th, 2010
10:27 pm
The Bucks are impressive
Wabe
April 28th, 2010
10:27 pm
Dammit.
Making me sweat.
smackdown
April 28th, 2010
10:28 pm
BONEY,this team is winning in spite of this coach.
Marvin is making his own game tonight.Just like Mo Evans said in a halftime interview,that he has to create his own opps because there are no plays called for him.Same with Marvin tonight.
Now watch how this team plays friday night compared to tonight. And watch how the bucks will have a different gameplan and atlanta stick with the switching defense.
O'Brien
April 28th, 2010
10:28 pm
Given the way the Bucks have played (at home and here in ATL), I wonder what Skiles could have done as the coach of the Hawks…
Oh Oh. Hawks need to score right here…
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 28th, 2010
10:28 pm
This shouldnt even be coming down to this
terrell
April 28th, 2010
10:29 pm
I knew we’d make it interesting, but not this interesting.
bigdave
April 28th, 2010
10:29 pm
smh.
Wabe
April 28th, 2010
10:29 pm
J.Smith had the ability, people just questioned his basketball IQ.
In Marvin’s case, I don’t think anybody’s doubting the guy’s IQ, I think their questioning his ability.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 28th, 2010
10:30 pm
Woodson’s seat could turn from warm to a lil more toasty if we blow this.
VenomSpitter
April 28th, 2010
10:30 pm
Damn man all this and the Bucks are missing their 2 best players in Bogut and Redd. The Hawks should be ashamed of theirselves for allowing it to come to this.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 28th, 2010
10:31 pm
is this serious?
bigdave
April 28th, 2010
10:31 pm
makes no sense. none. absolutely none. still no pg. still switching.
drmaryb
April 28th, 2010
10:31 pm
Marvin only played one year in College on the Brench! 5 years to develop? His AZZ should have stayed in school if he needed to develop?
Now, dammit – How is that Woody’s FAULT?
I guess we can blame Coach for THE WALL STRRET collapse & UNEMPLOYMENT in America too!
OMB! That’s OBAMA fault!
Go – Figure. Coach starts Marvin for 6 years straight & if Marvin hasn’t developed yet? That’s on Marvin!
If Coach doesn’t play Acie & Teague – its still his fault, they didn’t stay in school!
Damned if he do & Damned if he don’t!
VenomSpitter
April 28th, 2010
10:32 pm
Joe needs to give the damn ball up. He is such a ball hog.
Wabe
April 28th, 2010
10:32 pm
Incredible.
BONEY
April 28th, 2010
10:32 pm
“BONEY, this team is winning in spite of this coach.”
Whatever . . . when they lose, it’s Woody’s fault – when they win, he has nothing to do with it . . .
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 28th, 2010
10:32 pm
another 1 on 5 play drawn up by Woody
Big Ray
April 28th, 2010
10:32 pm
Wabe ,
I’m not blaming Woody for Marvin. Don’t get me wrong. Just making the comparison. I blame Billy Knight and Marvin himself for Marvin. It is what it is.
Wabe
April 28th, 2010
10:32 pm
Joe fouls out?
Wow.