Atlanta Hawks Squawks Game 4: Bucks 111, Hawks 104

– So which one of these teams is the experienced playoff group? Which one has a rookie running point? Which squad has guys who don’t seem to know it’s going to be more physical in the playoffs, especially on the road?

– “It is frustrating, man,” J.J. said. “It just seems like we don’t have the toughness. They were coming up with all the loose balls, and all the big rebounds. We couldn’t get stops when we needed to. It’s killing us.”

– The Hawks competed better in Game 4 than in Game 3 but it’s not like they could be much worse in that regard. They couldn’t overtake the Bucks because rookie Brandon Jennings had his way with them.

– Jennings has figured out the Hawks’ switching defense. If he wasn’t making jumpers, he was slithering to the rim to score. If he wasn’t doing that, he was dropping it off in the paint for teammates. And if that wasn’t there, the Bucks worked the ball around the perimeter, where Delfino inevitably was standing wide open to catch a pass for a 3.

– The Bucks worked over the Hawks. “Jennings has such quickness that when we get out on him he opens up stuff for his shooters,” Jamal said. “He gets around one person, he keeps his dribble, Delfino was getting shots Salmons was getting shots, Stackhouse was getting shots Ilyasova was getting shots. I think the penetration is hurting us a little bit.”

– More than a little bit. “It’s been tough because we switch a lot and they just get pretty much any penetration they wanted,” J.J. said. “They got us helter skelter, to where we are scrambling trying to find guys, and now we are at a disadvantage.”

– Is it time for the Hawks to adjust their defensive approach of switching all the time? “I don’t know,” Joe said. “I am sure we will come up with something. We have just got to get back playing with energy. They are getting layup after layup, you can’t have that in playoff basketball.”

– But this wasn’t about a lack of energy by the Hawks. They played hard, for the most part. It was about Jennings, Ridnour, Salmons and Delfino doing a much better job finding holes against the switches than they did in Games 1 and 2 and the Hawks sticking with the strategy.

– It’s not working. “I haven’t got my shot blocked as much,” Jennings said with a smile, referring to how he recklessly and ineffectively attacked the rim in Game 2. “I think just making smart decisions and learning as the series goes on and just moving the ball. We are a better team when everyone is moving the ball and touching the ball.”

– I didn’t get a chance to ask Woody if he’s considering adjusting the defensive strategy. If he doesn’t, I don’t see how Jennings, Ridnour, Salmons and Delfino don’t continue to take advantage.

– After it looked like Woody had the advantage in the first two games, Scott Skiles has taken it back. In this game, he went deep in his bench, got the Bucks sharing the ball and got something from everyone. “That’s pretty much our formula,” he said. “We need everybody to play as well that we can get. We’re not afraid to leave them out there during critical minutes.”

– The Bucks were better than the Hawks, and they were tougher, too. Yes the Bucks, especially Kurt Thomas , were getting away with holding, moving screens, and pushes. It took too long for the Hawks to respond in kind.

– “We know what to expect,” J.J. said. “We have got to stop complaining so much. We worry about them holding and scratching and clawing. We have just got to do the same thing. Stop worrying about what the refs are calling, and just play. We complain way too much.”

– The Hawks should have been mad about the way the Bucks got to the rim at will. Milwaukee shot 55 percent and scored 44 points in the paint, for crying out loud. In the playoffs. “We had too many breakdowns on the perimeter,” Smoove said. “Guys had to help and they knocked down jump shots. We had poor rotations and kept leaving Delfino at the 3-point line.”

– All of that is true but Josh isn’t blameless. I saw him watching guys score at the rim instead of challenging shots. He was back to being weak on closeouts. When J.J. was talking about guys complaining too much about calls, Smoove has to be at or near the top of the list.

– “We can’t let that get the best of us,” Jamal said. “A call is a call, it can’t be changed. You just have to go out there and compete.”

– Josh insisted he wasn’t frustrated about the physical play. “I was straight,” Smoove said. “People were not helping each other out and not communicating. That’s really why I was frustrated.”

– While the Bucks were getting easy shots, the Hawks were jacking up jumpers. They occasionally worked the inside-out game but there wasn’t much flow for long stretches of the game. “We are not being aggressive,” Joe said. “We are just sitting back on our heels. They are attacking, and we are just kind of sitting back watching.”

– The Hawks are 1-10 in postseason road games in the last three years. Haven’t these long, hard series gotten old? “I would have thought so a long time ago,” Joe said. “Obviously it hasn’t. I guess we just like going seven games. It kills us, man. We get banged up and we just get no rest.”

– The Magic swept Charlotte, by the way.

– The Hawks have won 15 straight at Philips but the Bucks have the confidence and momentum in the series. “I can’t wait until Friday to come back home and finish up the series, hopefully,” Jennings said. What does it mean for the Hawks that it sounds less like boasting, and more like a plan?

– “I still feel like there is no pressure on us,” Jennings said. “At the end of the day, everyone still expects us to lose the series. The best thing we can do is keep fighting and keep competing with them.”

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

238 comments Add your comment

VenomSpitter

April 27th, 2010
1:03 am

This team is about to implode. Joe clearly wants Josh to stfu about all the complaining.

This team is Done.

Bye Joe it was good knowing ya.

Mr. Height

April 27th, 2010
1:07 am

MC, has anyone asked Joe why he does not voice displeasure during the game instead of letting things go on during the game and then talk about his teammates afterwards.

Mr. Height

April 27th, 2010
1:08 am

What time is Game 7

Loc

April 27th, 2010
1:09 am

If I hear the words “we like our core” from this moronic ownership group and GM one more time, I will puke. A good core is one like that of OKC, where there is still room to grow and put other pieces around it. This core has already maxed out it’s ability and will not sniff the finals or anything close to it.

I ask again, why the hell did we give Marvin’s duck butt a 5 year deal when nobody else wanted him? Completely inexcusable and a lazy job by Sund. I hate to say it, but we are headed for more rebuilding if JJ leaves and Marvin and Horford continue to regress.

What a pathetic organization.

Clyde

April 27th, 2010
1:09 am

LET ME START THINGS OFF BY SAYING

FIRE WOODY

Loc

April 27th, 2010
1:12 am

Sund’s offseason moves may have helped this team during this year’s regular season, but they did nothing to bring us closer to a title. We are now hamstrung by Marvin’s contract for 4 more years, Bibby for 2 more, and Zaza for 3 more. And for what? To win 53 games, have another useless 7 game first round series, and then get blown out in the 2nd round by a superior team? Just such a disgraceful organization and ownership group. Thank god for Arthur Blank, TD, and Mike Smith. Without that group, all 4 major sports teams in this city would be massive disappointments.

Keep up the good work MC.

Hawks vs. Bucks

April 27th, 2010
1:21 am

I think the group that took Mighty Boston to 7 games a few years ago could beat this group.

That team knew how much being in the playoffs meant, when to have fun, and when to get serious.

Prison Mike

April 27th, 2010
1:21 am

Mike Bibby is the determining factor to all of the teams problems. He can’t match up with his counterpart and it puts too much pressure on everyone else, killing us.

Is there a reason why Jennings dribbles around in circles when the likes of Al Horford and Pachulia play matador defense while he simply floats a shot with 3 seconds left on the clock. I can’t imagine a guy like Rondo allowing his centers out on an island like that just dying a slow death.

JSS

April 27th, 2010
1:23 am

Nostradamus!

lewis

April 27th, 2010
1:26 am

Bye Joe. Been fun watching you grow.
No one listens to or respects Woody.
No leadership.
Stupid stupid money spent on Marvin and Bibby. (Zaza i think is a solid backup)

Was downright embarassing. Currently living in Cleveland and friends with many Cavs fans, I had to go to a friends house to watch because it was on NBA TV. ended up having to apologize for such a poor performance. Was eye-opening to hear the other announcers talk about the immaturity of the Hawks, “get angry Josh Smith, get a technical!” There are so many things so obviously wrong about this team. Its hard to be a fan. My friends try to tell me not to get worked up over it but its frustrating. No one watches this team. If the players are going to act like they have something better to do, so are the fans.

mike bibby sucks

April 27th, 2010
1:28 am

clearly can’t defend pg’s who are younger or older. switching defense requires all people to be able to defend, and he simply can’t get the job done. he’s not worth 15 points when 30 are scored against him.

Cannon

April 27th, 2010
1:29 am

We are built very well to succeed in the regular season when we’re playing in empty arenas, and the team needs no lift of motivation. But Woodsen just can’t seem to get these guy’s going and light a fire in them, and that is 100% his job. We’ve now seen this going on 3 straight years. Why should we expect it to change in the future? Let Woodys contract run out, and let’s part ways. We need a coach who can do some motivating. However if we can’t re-sign JJ it’s a mute point, as we’ll struggle to capture the 8 seed next season, and a sure quick departure from Cleveland, or Orlando will be our fate.

I still think we beat the Bucks in 7 due to the sole fact that we have home-court.

Orlando will dominate us. It won’t be much of a series.

And all this is coming from a die-hard Hawk fan who has supported Woody all season.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 27th, 2010
1:46 am

Here’s a question for y’all:

If the Hawks get to the 2nd round (which I think they will), how will they do compared to the Bobcats?

A: Worse (get swept and lose more than 1 game by 10 points)
B: Better (win at least one game)
C: Same (get swept but keep the margin within 10 points in at least 3 games)

CAVSFAN

April 27th, 2010
2:14 am

nice job ATL. after all that season long chatter.. you’ve really just re-gressed. Getting swept by the Cavs in round two would look pretty good at this point, wouldn’t it?

Rod from College Park

April 27th, 2010
2:15 am

Does anyone on the Hawks realize that Jennings is left handed. He goes left 90% of the time unless he is on the right wing. The only guy I saw trying to make him go right all night was Mo Evans.

Marvin Williams as a basketball player is a disgrace to anyone over 6′6. He gets his shot blocked by Salmons, and can’t finish with guys like Jennings back on a break.

If I see Horford or Zaza trying to defend Jennings on the perimeter one more time. Unbelievable.

Clyde

April 27th, 2010
2:22 am

Dante Fitzgerald

April 27th, 2010
2:22 am

Woody is No Goody!

BuckNutts

April 27th, 2010
2:24 am

I thought your team was going to smoke the Bucks. I was hoping to get the C’s instead of you guys. I thought … without Bogut, we wouldn’t have a chance! The Bucks saving grace might have been that they lost the first 2 games… nobody (including your team) thought we had a chance.

Josh Smith is an awesome player but he needs to grow up and not insult an entire city/state with his comments about Milwaukee. Maybe the Bucks have stepped up in support of their fans!?! Watching games 1 & 2 were like trying to watch somebody read a book at a library. Maybe, just maybe.. there is more to do in Atlanta than watch a team that could/will lose to a team without it’s leader (and team nobody thought would even make the playoffs). Josh, if you are reading… tell your fans to man up and go to game 5!

Here’s an idea, maybe the owners could offer a partial money back guarantee if they beat the Bucks? Oh wait, that didnt work in the past now did it! Good luck in Milwaukee when we finish the series (hopefully).

Say hello to Ludacris for me… he has some awesome songs about drinking and driving!

northcyde

April 27th, 2010
2:25 am

It’s time to knock Jennings on his azz when he goes to the hole. And they need to do it early in the game. Question is . . . who is tough enough to dish out a hard foul like that, without getting a flagrant?

Reading JJ’s comments didn’t give it justice. Actually seeing him comment and saying that we “don’t have the toughness”, spoke volumes about how he was feeling tonight. The way he said it, it was almost like he didn’t want to believe it, but finally realized it.

In other words . . . the Hawks are soft. A trait that most of us already knew.

People may not like this . . . but in Game 6 . . JJ may have to go SUPERNOVA for us to win. If we can’t stop the Bucks, and JJ has it going early, he needs to try to shoot for 40 points, and see if he can single-handedly rip the heart out of the Bucks.

The defense MUST IMPROVE by leaps and bounds though, regardless of what we do on offense. Even if you have to treat Jennings like he’s a star player, and double his azz, that’s what we have to do.

He’s feeling himself now, so now it’s time to punch his young azz in the mouth.

Marvin, you haven’t done anything all series, so maybe it should be YOU that dishes out the pain to Jennings.

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BuckNutts

April 27th, 2010
2:32 am

northcyde… spoken like a true thug… the ATL must be proud!

The Light

April 27th, 2010
2:33 am

In response to your question, Najeh, I choose option (B). Here is my reasoning:

The Bobcats had several critical problems which prevent them from having a solid chance at beating the Magic. First off, they are at a significant talent disadvantage offensively. The have a team with very few shooters, possibly the fewest shooters in the league. Their main perimeter threat is Stephen Jackson, who can be very inconsistent. Their other star player (Gerald Wallace) thrives primarily from attacking the paint, while their bigs are extremely limited offensively. Without a legitimate threat on the inside, Dwight Howard was relatively free to roam around the basket on defense during that series, which explain why he was racking up blocks at such a frequent rate. This coupled with the hard-nosed strategy by the Bobcats to attack the paint played right into the hands of Dwight while he was in the game. They did a good job of racking up quick fouls on dwight using this strategy as well, however, it did them little good, since, as I mentioned earlier, they have relatively no offensive threats on the inside, aside from Diaw (if you want to call him a true big man).

The other real achilles heal for the Bobcats was their inability to defend the perimeter against the magic’s endless array of shooters. This is what makes the Magic most dangerous, honestly, not Dwight Howard, although he is one of the reasons their perimeter offense is so potent, but the fact that 4 out of 5 guys that Orlando has on the floor at any given time can reliably known down the three ball. With a lineup that features tall, somewhat immoble men like Chandler, Mohammed, Wallace, and even Jackson (who looked a step slow chasing the magic guards), it is difficult for the Bobcats to stay in front of their men during cuts and switches while Jameer Nelson both penetrates and shoots very well. In the end, it was the three point shooting of the Magic and the inability to score by the Bobcats that got them ultimately swept.

Now, on to the Hawks. The Hawks have several advantages over the Bobcats. First and foremost, the Hawks have scorers and guards that can shoot reliably in Johnson, Crawford, and Bibby. The Hawks also have the quickness and mobility to guard Orlando’s perimeter players with Johnson, Teague (although he probably wouldn’t play much due to his offensive limitations), Evans, and even crawford. The Hawks also have the luxury of having Bigs that are versatile enough to guard a guy like Rashard Lewis on the perimeter who is typically to quick and deceptive for traditional 4’s.

Now, in terms of inside, the Hawks seemed to have finally figured out a strategy that works relatively well against Dwight Howard on offense (I’ll get to defense in a bit). Al Horford has something that most centers in this league do not: the ability to knock down the mid-range jumper and stretch the defense. Considering Al has become a deadly mid-range shooter for a big man, he can pull Dwight away from the basket on offense, which leaves the lane open for drives and limits Dwight’s ability to grab offensive rebounds. Keep in the mind that aside from Dwight Howard, the Magic have very weak interior defense, and Dwight’s rejections come mostly from help-side defense. If Dwight tries to help on a drive and leaves Al open, Al will most likely make him pay (just as he did in the last Magic-Hawks game at the Highlight Factory). If Dwight stays with Al, that leaves the lane open for much more penetration and the Hawks are quite effective at scoring in the paint. The Hawks can also expose Rashard Lewis in the post who has proven to be quite uncomfortable guarding post players with Josh Smith or Al Horford. This discussion could turn into a novel quickly, so I’m going to move on to defense now.

On defense, so many teams seem to overlook this, but I truly believe that the Magic’s biggest weapon is the three point shot, and I would rather give up a 3 than a dunk or contested shot by Dwight Howard, that is why I think it is absolutely critical to put the highest priority on defending the perimeter against the Magic. The Hawks signed their third-string backup big men for a reason, and they would do well to play Dwight straight up, regardless of whom is guarding them. Statistically, Al has done a pretty good job when defending Dwight individually in the post, and it would be foolish to gamble and double off of a three point shooter on Dwight. Follow the Charles Barkley strategy and play Dwight straight up. If the bigs get in foul trouble, there are more than enough fouls to go around with 4 centers on the team. If Dwight scores 50 and beats the Hawks single-handedly, so be it, but I don’t think he’s gifted enough offensively to do that.

Now, in terms of defending the perimeter, I would go with the following match-ups. Under no circumstances would I put Mike Bibby on Jameer Nelson. That is just a recipe for quick defeat. Joe should cover Jameer, while Marvin guards Vince Carter, and the Hawks can afford to hide mike bibby on Matt Barnes since he is clearly the Magic’s most limited offensive perimeter player. I’m not a big fan of this, but Josh would have to assigned to guard Rashard Lewis, he may not have the quickness on the perimeter to do so, but his efforts on the offensive and defensive glass help to give the Hawks an advantage in this match-up. Also, Mo Evans is versatile enough to defend just about any of the Magic’s perimeter players, which is a plus for the Hawks. Teague could get some quality minutes in this series for his defense on the quick cutting perimeter players from the Magic like JJ Redick and Nelson.

One last thing on defense, the Hawks cannot afford to use their traditional switching defense on the Magic considering this will result in easy baskets and and-1s for Dwight along with the big’s likely getting burned by some of the quick Magic guards (I can’t image Zaza trying to guard Nelson or Redick, that would be horrible). It might be effective to try a variant of that similar to the rotation scheme the Hawks used in their last meeting against the magic. However, we absolutely cannot afford to leave Dwight without a big man guarding him.

Now, I’m not saying the above strategies are full-proof or would allow the Hawks to win a series against the Magic ( I honestly think the Magic are the best team in the league right now, far better than cleveland, overall), but provided that this scheme is followed and the Hawks play to their strengths and take advantage of the transition game and the points in the paint, I think the Hawks could at least win one game in that series.

Of course, I doubt woody would use the scheme mentioned above. I’m not putting him down or anything like that, but the adjustments mentioned above seem to risque for Woodson considering his determined approach to stick with what the Hawks have done in the past.

I hope you enjoyed this novel.

BuckNutts

April 27th, 2010
2:40 am

I will say to all the Hawks fans out there that is it easy to bash their team if things aren’t going the way they envisioned (trust me, I have done it for years). Stay true to your team through the good and the bad!

My comments earlier were directed towards some fans I saw in Milwaukee tonight that rubbed me the wrong way.

Good luck next year in the playoffs (see… I had to get one more rub in there)! I am ruthless!!!

The Light

April 27th, 2010
2:45 am

It’s not over until it’s over, BucksNutts. Just wanted to throw that in.

On a positive note, I have to say that it is nice to see someone with the right attitude posting on here. The sad thing is that it is a fan of another team. At any rate, your comments are sensible, for the most part. Just keep in mind, this series is far from over and when it’s all said and done, we may be wishing your team good luck next year and preparing for the Magic. You never know in the playoffs. Best of luck to you and may the best team win.

Cheezehead 4 Life

April 27th, 2010
3:04 am

Hey Hawks Fans, I personally APOLOGIZE if there are any BUCKS TROLLS on your boards.

They don’t represent the full Milwaukee fan base and should know better since our franchise is still on life support and can still leave the city without a new arena and/or owner. I’m always curious to how the media and fans report and react to our victories, but I do my best not to comment because I HATE trolls on our boards so I give respect to get respect. These people TROLLING and trying to hype up “tying” a series are probably not real Bucks Fans but bandwagon fans that came on board once the Bucks became good. We couldn’t even sell out our opening night game THIS YEAR or last year, so I’m surprised that we suddenly have a FEAR THE DEER nation that is 1 million strong and bragging on other people’s boards.

Great series so far and once again…I’m sorry for the Trolls and let you know that our core fan base don’t mean any disrespect even after Josh disrespected our town. It’s all good because I can attack the player without attacking the people. :-)

PS – Please don’t change your defense. I beg you…don’t change! ;-)

BONE

April 27th, 2010
3:09 am

lol buck nutss…………..guess the lakers will lose at home too.pffff

BONE

April 27th, 2010
3:11 am

cnt wait to see the buck fans this weekend wen they realize they no longer have a team to cheer for. seriously…hawksz are gonna destroy them the next two games, and there will b ZERO bucks fans speakin on here lmaoo

Hawks win NBA ha

April 27th, 2010
4:15 am

well we tied to a sub par team in Milwaukee who is a lame duck team Maybe Movin to a new city.Would not blame all sudden they have fans now to late they be playin in seattle in 2 years.As for Josh smith mouth as wide as coach woodson ass.We done we lose Game5 before a crowd of ushers n a library card.We not sold out can u see why are Owner the GM n coach are as clueless as don waddell 5 year plan! Even if we did win next 2 and end series 4-2 we get so bad by orlando u get excuse from Woodson n son Josh Smith and the 20.345 who will cheer for cleveland here anyway.Oh no worrys cleveland will not win NBA title cause orlando will be in final again.

Big Daddy

April 27th, 2010
6:38 am

Until the Hawks figure out how to get stops (i.e. turn up the D) they are going to see the score run up on them. People, Skiles has found our Achilles Heel. He is exploiting it early and often. Brandon Jennings is making everyone forget about Michael Redd. We may be able to get him in the off-season.

Once again to quote a line in a recent movie “You know what? We are in trouble” and the coaching staff has not figured out a way to counter it. One of the analysis said that the biggest problem was that the players are not executing what the coaches have drawn up. Well, duh! When that happens most coaches will bring in others to try to find something that works. We had our most productive night but could not get stops. Why are we not using Joe Smith and maybe even Collins to send the message that if you come down the lane, you are going to regret it. Let them get banged up. Right now the switching defense is not working. How many times are you going to leave Delfino wide open in the corner with nobody within 10 feet? Jennings keeps going to his left and down the lane without anyone coming over. Marvin’s and Bibby’s defense consist of turning around and tell Al and Smoove, here he comes.

It wasn’t until the last 6 minutes of the 4th quarter did they figure out a way to curtail Salmons. They better come out on fire Wednesday night because if they lose, I doubt they will win on Friday. It wasn’t until last night that I realized the Bucks organization did not even sell game 6 tickets because even THEY did not believe there would be a game 6.

As Jamaal pointed out at the press conference the Celtics went to 7 games with us and then went on to win the title and the Lakers went to 7 games with their first round opponent and went on to win the championship. I have grown up watching both of those teams face adversity and succeed, go through transitions of players and coaches and still play well and lose games and come back and win in a series. The Hawks are no Lakers or Celtics.

Paul Hackett

April 27th, 2010
6:51 am

Josh is an impetuous child. He is too big of a p*ssy to ever be an elite player, even though he has more physical talent than anyone in the games besides Lebron and Dwight.

It is sickening to watch him become a total whimp every time this teams goes on the road. They have no shame, no embarrassment. Just a bunch of p*ssies.

The Real Hawk

April 27th, 2010
6:55 am

1-10 in playoff games over last three years.
That is coaching, or lack of same!

JeJe

April 27th, 2010
7:06 am

GUYS WE JUST HAVE TO SWEEP MILWAUKEE BECAUSE CHARLOTTE WILL TAKE ORLANDO TO 7

LMAO^^^^^^^^THIS IS WHAT SOME OF U GENIUSES WERE SAYING 1.5 WEEKS AGO

FIRE WOODY. WORST DEFENSE I’VE EVER SEEN. LOL @ BIBBY GIVING JENNINGS THE AND1 BY FOULING WHILE STATIONARY AND NOT EVEN ROTATING

HOW MANY MORE GODDAMN TIMES DO WE HAVE TO SEE MILWAUKEE GET AN OPEN LAYUP? WOULD ORLANDO, BOSTON, OR CLEVELAND BE GIVING UP THESE LAYUPS?

WHAT A JOKE. WOODY “DOESN’T GIVE A !@#$ ABOUT THE OFFENSE” AND CARES ABOUT DEFENSE YET OUR DEFENSE IS WORSE THAN OUR OFFENSE

AND WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR JAMAL TO GET SHOTS?

JMANES Bucks fan

April 27th, 2010
7:10 am

Whoever wins game 5 is going to take this series I think. I thought the Hawks were going to sweep us after game 1 due to the inside dominance. I think the Hawks problem is that they are not going to Horford enough (foul trouble kept him limited in game 4). Would have been nice to see Bogut play the Hawks. We might have swept you guys with him based on the games played so far. However saying that the Hawks should win in 6-7 based on talent alone.

Not to Bones— Tough talk from a fan who should know that this series should be 3-1 or 4-0. The Magic would and will dismantle both of these teams. I think the Hawks future would be best to lose this series and pick up a better draft pick. Theres no possible way the Hawks can beat the Magic.

JeJe

April 27th, 2010
7:10 am

“I wish I knew,” he said. “It’s been that way against the Cleveland Cavaliers. It’s been a close game in the fourth and we can’t seem to find any offense.”

LOL so Woodson still has NOT figured out how to beat the Knicks, Magic (besides that one game), and now the Cavs. This guy DOES NOT MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FROM GAME TO GAME. You HEARD Hubie and Jon Barry say it last night — we lost the exact same way last night we did the 2 previous times vs. Cleveland. Look at those Orlando losses — same thing.

WOODY DOES NOT MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. He DOES NOT “give a !@#$ about the offense” and that shows when we go ice cold in the 4th quarter.

We were OUTREBOUNDED BY 19 WITHOUT Shaq and Varejao (who is an absolute PEST on the glass) playing. Where was Collins to guard Ilgauskas?

This is a !@#$ing joke. This is NOT an elite team. Cleveland is so physical and they go for rebounds. We settle for these !@#damn jumpshots, DON’T box out, and we have NO OFFENSIVE PLAN — JUST A FEW TALENTED SCORERS.

This is the BEST and most accurate post I’ve made on here.

FIRE MIKE WOODSON

We all know Woodson and Marvin suck, but Marvin is at least a serviceable defender (good, but not great).

However, what will ultimately lead to our demise in the playoffs is the fact that Bibby CANNOT guard anyone in this league. What this means is that Woodson, who already has stiff rotations, will give Bibby few minutes against the quicker PGs (which is every other starting and bench PG in this league), Crawford will get burnt out play 38 minutes at PG every night, and we will therefore suffer.

I SAID BEFORE THE SEASON BIBBY HAD TO LOSE WEIGHT AND GET QUICKER BUT HE IS OBVIOUSLY OUT OF SHAPE. LOOK AT HIS UPPER BODY. HE HAS NO SPEED AND CAN TAKE NO POINT GUARDS OFF THE DRIBBLE. ALSO, HE CANNOT STAY IN FRONT OF ANYONE, NOR DOES HE TRY

FIRE MIKE KNAPP

doc

April 27th, 2010
7:14 am

rod you seeing a weakness in the way we play or plan to play defense?

mike bibby sucks

April 27th, 2010
7:21 am

FIRE MIKE

BIBBY
and WOODSON

lewis

April 27th, 2010
7:22 am

Bibby is bordering on terrible (averaging 9 pts 4 assts) and is a complete defensive liability. Marvin is even worse putting up 10/5, and then Haha Pachulia 4/4. Explain to me why we have to pay Marvin 8 million a year until 2014, Bibby 6 million and Haha 5 million until 2012? Rick Sund is an idiot. Once Joe Johnson leaves, it’s going to be another few years before I can watch the Hawks again. Back to being a fair-weather fan.

Trade Josh Smith, he’s a mental liability on the court. Never know when he’s going to disregard all basketball knowledge and start trying to bank outside jumpers.

lewis

April 27th, 2010
7:24 am

also pathetic that 51% of 800 people who’ve voted on this website’s poll for who will win the series, have chosen milwaukee.

O'Brien

April 27th, 2010
7:26 am

northcyde,

The problem for the Hawks, is even if JJ goes for 40, we still need to do a better job on defense. Thats 2 straight games where the Bucks have taken advantage of the switching defense (Samuel, where you at?), and it does not look like we made any adjustments.

The Bucks were one of the worst shooting teams in the league, but yet they shot over 50% both games. And when we did get a stop, we couldn’t get a score.

Woody and the players continue to say “we have to figure it out” or “we have to play with more energy”. But its more than that. I also think the Hawks are soft. Too many easy buckets. The best foul of the night was when the Bucks had a 3 on 1 advantage, and JJ made sure they didnt get the layup.

Those are the kind of fouls we need our guys to commit. All year, we’ve been giving up points in the paint, so its no surprise to see it continue in the playoffs. More than anything, we have to tighten on D.

JeJe

April 27th, 2010
7:37 am

Why do I feel Salmons has 6 feet to shoot EVERY time he has the ball? Why the hell is Marvin standing so far back?

JeJe

April 27th, 2010
7:39 am

northcyde,

Where are you now? You said we wouldn’t have to worry about the Hawks playing hard in the playoffs since you don’t usually NOT play hard in the playoffs…LOL. GAME 3????

Grandad

April 27th, 2010
8:08 am

Paul Hackett:

*[in reference to your previous post]
“They have no shame, no embarrassment. Just a bunch of p_ss__s.”
(referring to our Hawks/Josh Smith in particular)
“Teams usually take on the personality of their coach.”
This is a well known b-ball axiom……………..^
Repeatedly stated by the TV people on a number of occasions
during the series, mostly in regards to skiles and the
Bucks relentless style of play.
Just Sayin’

Section 303

April 27th, 2010
8:09 am

This is bad. The Hawks are in major trouble. I do not think they will win this series.

Just like you all have already said, the defense is awful. And, like so many of you have said, Woodson did nothing to adjust to it. But, when you have Josh Smith just standing around and watching all the time, does it really matter?

Besides the defense, there was a two possession stretch with around 7 minutes left that drove me nuts. Hawks get two stops, and then Mo Evens, on consecutive trips, takes the shot. He misses both, of course, and the Hawks fail to take advantage of holding the Bucks scoreless for two possessions.

I’m done with Mo Evans. I stated on a past blog that I could take him or leave him. Well, I’ll pack his bags for him. Can’t have Mo Evans taking huge shots for this team. On one, he drives in, misses a short layup/jumper. The next, wide open jumper. Both misses were killers. Get the f’ing ball to Joe or Jamal when a basket needs to be made!

I think they lose in 6. This thought that they will magically turn on a switch and start playing better just because they are at home is absurd. The defense is not going to change. Bucks are going to continue to get easy looks. Remember, Woody saying “the sh#t works” in that Lang Whitaker article? Well, the sh#t doesn’t work after all.

Looks like the whole season was for nothing. The Hawks played harder last night, I’ll give them that. But, really, not going to sit here and praise a bunch of so called professionals for trying hard in a postseason game. That is to be expected.

Jamal Crawford said it best…he said that last night was the way Game 3 should have gone. Then, the Hawks should have won Game 4. Instead, they give no effort in Game 3 and get killed. Then, they can’t handle the pressure in Game 4. And, here we are, 2-2 heading back to Philips.

Will there be a crowd there on Wednesday? I’ll be there. But, can’t really say I am looking forward to it. Boys, I think we are about to see a debacle.

Niremetal

April 27th, 2010
8:09 am

I’m so frustrated, can I sit on your lap Big Ray?

JOE

April 27th, 2010
8:12 am

the hawks have officially become a bad joke.

Fire Clyde

April 27th, 2010
8:14 am

You dummys need to just calm down.

LEA

April 27th, 2010
8:19 am

I think we will win the next few games, and all you fair-weather fans will be back on the boat then. The hawks seriously have the worst fan base in the league. Have the nerve to complain about their play. When half of you don’t even show up to the games. we had one of the lowest attendances this year. hell the knicks fans showed up to more games.. Sad…

Section 303

April 27th, 2010
8:22 am

LEA,

Shut up. I’ve hardly missed a home game in the past 6-years. Go F yourself.

#1 thing to do in Milwaukee: Get upset by a lower seed

April 27th, 2010
8:23 am

Cheezehead 4 Life: much respect. It was awesome to see an intelligent and LOUD fan base last night instead of the see-and-be-seen crowd we have at home games in Atlanta.

Basketball fans wearing jerseys instead of dressing for the club, and actually watching the game instead of texting and sipping martinis? BRILLIANT!!!

KP

April 27th, 2010
8:24 am

I have tried to stick by Woody with the consistent improvements year-after-year, however it is obvious to me (and others) that he has taken us as far as we can go. Skiles is out-coaching him tactically as his team has made the key adjustments that has turn the tide in this series. Not to mention the fact that he for some reason cannot get the same focus and effort from his team on the road that he gets from them at home. Time for a change!