Hawks Squawks Game 3: Bucks 107, Hawks 89

Milwaukee– The Hawks got their butts kicked. The details of the beatdown seem almost inconsequential in light of the aggregate effect of this blistering in the Bradley Center. The Bucks never got it handed to them like this at Philips Arena, where at least they fought back when the Hawks blitzed them.

– Forget the Xs and Os for a minute and consider the Hawks’ lack of intensity and poise. “It’s unacceptable to get blown out like this,” J.J. said. “We’ll look at the tape and correct our mistakes but more than anything it’s about coming out and playing with more effort.”

– The Hawks spouted some of those playoff cliches: The Bucks simply did what they had to do, the Hawks still own homecourt advantage, they still have a chance to win Game 4 on Monday for a road split. All of that is theoretically true but have the Hawks shown an indication that they can find the mettle it will take to win the next game? It would have been one thing if the Hawks competed and lost but failing to show up is something else.

– “Honestly I have no idea [why],” Joe said. “We knew what to expect and we knew what was at stake. For us to come out the way we played, that’s on the starters. It was unacceptable. Give the Bucks a lot of credit, they ot their team off to a fast start and never looked back.”

– Then again, the Hawks can’t afford to beat themselves up about this for too long. “I’m not taking anything away from the Bucks, they played extremely well tonight,” Woody said. “They did what they were supposed to do but we still hold a 2-1 lead and we still have an opportunity to steal one (in Milwaukee).”

– The Hawks have one road playoff victory in their last three postseasons. Their problems on the road continue to keep them from reaching the level of Cleveland, Orlando (which is looking to sweep Charlotte) and Boston. “We’ve struggled on the road even during the regular season,” J.J. said. “We’ve not been a great road team. We’ve got to find a way.”

– They can start by going back to feeding Smoove and Al inside. Woody had said he was surprised the Bucks didn’t show more resistance in the post in Game 2 after they had success pushing Josh and Al out in the second half of Game 1. The Bucks didn’t make that mistake again.

– “It’s no secret that in the first two games they sort of owned us in the paint,” Scott Skiles said. “We were able to take a few things away tonight.”

– The Hawks waited too long to get Al involved but he also wasn’t as sharp when deciding whether to pick-and-pop or go to the hole. Smoove just wasn’t at all in rhythm.

– The Hawks didn’t help matters by missing a bunch of shots near the rim. That’s how they had 20 offensive rebounds and managed only 12 second-chance points. “They got a lot of offensive rebounds but didn’t turn them into points this time,” Skiles said.

– The Hawks’ pick-and-roll defense was awful. After solid defensive efforts in Games 1 and 2 the Hawks were back to those familiar bad switches and lax closeouts. That meant layups and open 3-pointers all night for the Bucks.

– “Give them credit, they came out and made shots,” Marvin said. “At the same time we didn’t defend the way we usually do.” Marvin’s 1 for 7 shooting line looked bad but he had eight rebounds and probably was the best guy on closeouts.

– There were a few times when the Hawks were close to breaking through and needed patience and ball movement. Instead, J.J. went iso.

– The bench was better, I suppose, though does it really matter in a game like this? Or I guess I should say Zaza was better. Jamal (5 for 13) still can’t get into a rhythm.

– It was a nightmare game for Smoove. He smiled when Bucks fans heckled him near the bench as he sat watching the merciful end of the blowout loss. There wasn’t much he could say, though he was unapologetic afterward.

– “I didn’t say anything about their fans,” he said. “I didn’t say anything that wasn’t true. Some people have different opinions. I gave my opinion and I’m entitled to it. You asked me a question, I gave an honest answer.”

– Hey, I didn’t ask the question to begin with. Milwaukee media folks kept crediting me, too, but it wasn’t me!

– Win Game 4 and the Hawks can forget this one. Mo’s formula for doing it: “Go back to getting the ball inside, get quality shots and play defense first and foremost.”

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

296 comments Add your comment

bigdave

April 24th, 2010
11:48 pm

im not sure how much of a “quality shot” we have inside going to Al Horford against Kurt Thomas.. he just doesnt have the skill or strength to be productive inside. we can get the most form him utilizing the pick and pop/roll game…

rusty

April 24th, 2010
11:55 pm

the whole team doesnt have a clue

O'Brien

April 25th, 2010
12:02 am

“Instead, JJ went ISO”. MC.

JJ was the only one making shots, so its hard to blame him for going ISO.

Except for game 4 against Miami last year (which we won by 10), we have been blown out in 9 of our 10 road playoff games last 3 postseasons. Unacceptable.

I’m tired of hearing the same cliche game after game from the players. No energy, no focus, blah blah blah.

The bucks kept it close in ATL in both games, without bogut and redd. And we can’t even keep it close in Milwaukee. And woody said we did not match their “physicalness”.

I don’t think physicality was the issue woody. But This is a TEAM loss, so hopefully we will play better in game 4.

welikebaseball2

April 25th, 2010
12:06 am

For a team to be this schizo (dominant at home & below average on the road) falls on coaching…point blank. Hate to jump on the bash-Woody-wagon, but it seems to me that a team being as ill-prepared & discombobulated as the Hawks have been on the road since the top of the season is a coaching issue. I’m not crying doom. I still feel the Hawks will take the series, but it’ll be because we simply have better players than the Bucks do. I can’t say that for any team we’ll face in the 2nd round, where our coaching will be more of a factor. Unfortunately, that’s were we reach our ceiling.

drmaryb

April 25th, 2010
12:27 am

Misery loves Company:

Thunder crush Lakers (#8 vs #1).
Bucks crush Hawks (#6 vs #3)

Shame on them Lakers! & they’re REIGNING – CHAMPS!

Puts things in perspective – a little.
Arguably The Best Player & The Best Coach & The Best Team?

Keep HOPE Alive! Yes we CAN!

George

April 25th, 2010
12:36 am

I have a feeling that we may see the angry, all-business, got-something-to-prove Hawks in game 4. You could tell from Joe’s post-game interview that he even seemed a bit angry. All the dancing around and singing by the Bucks near the end of the game was just plain disrespectful, it reminded me of the whole LeBron-Joakim Noah incident. You know that the Hawks will be looking to avenge this Game 3 loss. They know that they are the better team and I think it is time to put these Bucks in their place and embarrass them on their own home floor.

drmaryb

April 25th, 2010
12:38 am

Scott Brooks COY!

Great Press Conference! Listen UP Hawks & FIND the motivation he is talking about!

Dark Horse- OKC?

drmaryb

April 25th, 2010
12:43 am

Melt-Down

A qoute from the defending (10 Ring Coach) Championship Team!

The Hawks? Not a Defending – Champion … But a Melt-Down nontheless.

George

April 25th, 2010
12:44 am

OKC actually has looked pretty impressive against LA. Considering they completely dominated LA in Game 4, who had just lost to them in Game 3 and should have made adjustments, and almost made LA look lost, I’m starting to think they may actually have a chance at winning that series. However, I don’t see them being good enough to actually take the West even if they did beat LA. There are just too many dominant teams in their way with much more experience and savvy, whose coaches (e.g. sloan and popovich) who would never allow a 20+ point loss.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 25th, 2010
12:51 am

“I have a feeling that we may see the angry, all-business, got-something-to-prove Hawks in game 4. ”

If they have truly progressed mentally since last year, that is what we will see.

niremetal

April 25th, 2010
12:53 am

There are just too many dominant teams in their way with much more experience and savvy, whose coaches (e.g. sloan and popovich) who would never allow a 20+ point loss.

Not for nothing, but I’m just sayin’

drmaryb

April 25th, 2010
12:55 am

Every Time we wear them Red Uniforms – We LOSE!
Can we get some stats on the Un-Lucky Red Uniforms as it relates to Wins -vs- Losses?

Stick with the Blue Uni’s on the road Puh-Lease!

Najeh Davenpoop

April 25th, 2010
12:57 am

Visiting ESPN.com, you can see the flip side of getting no respect when you win — you don’t get any attention when you get your azz kicked either, especially when a better team gets their azz kicked right after you.

Hawks Fan In Orleans

April 25th, 2010
1:06 am

seventh. “Just a lack of focus and intensity” shameful – at some point you gotta call it lack of heart. JSmoove should think twice and be more tactful when choosing his words. No need to channel all that negative energy toward yourself on the road. That being said, I expect The Hawks to come out with more intensity.

Rolando

April 25th, 2010
1:06 am

For those of you who bash the Hawks about inconsistencies on the road, listen to Kobe’s post-game interview for Game 4. That way you can hear what one of the best players to ever play the game has to say about that sort of thing.

George

April 25th, 2010
1:11 am

niremental, you’re citing games that are not even from the current season. We are talking about the here and now, the present, not the past. I doubt that either of those two teams would lose by 20+ to the Thunder.

northcyde

April 25th, 2010
1:12 am

I’m sorry folks, but Smoove and Horford have to take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for this loss. Just like how JJ’s passive play in a few of those games vs Miami in last year’s playoffs was on him, our PF and C have to be blamed for this loss.

Horford grabbed 3 rebounds. Smoove had 9 OFFENSIVE BOARDS, but didn’t break double figures scoring.

That’s what is unacceptable.

And MC . . go back and see what Smoove and Horford shot in the 1st half. At one point in that game, JJ was 5 – 8 FG . . . the rest of the Hawks were 5 – 20 FG.

It was the bad closeouts, combined with the lack of offense from Smoove, Horford, and Marvin . . and Crawford in that 1st half, that put us in the decifit that we were in.

See, the REAL PROBLEM is that Smoove and Horford aren’t reliable ISO post players. And when they miss shots, the Hawks are pretty much one and done on the offensive end. They have to be set up so that they can be effective.

JJ pretty much did everything he could to keep us somewhat in that game in the 1st half. I think he even had 5 FT attempts in the 1st half . . lol . . which is almost unheard of for JJ.

Nah . . . the frontline must take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for that debacle last night.

Cannon

April 25th, 2010
1:23 am

I was thoroughly disgusted with how we played. We’re a better team and should never be embarrassed as bad as it was last night. I can deal with a loss, but we flat-out quit after the Bucks run in the 3rd. To me that is unacceptable. Monday is a must win. If we can’t win a road game at Milwaukee then we have no business even trying our luck against Orlando. That said I still think we somehow get it done, and take game 4. FYI I just received an e-mail from the Hawks offering $10 tickets to game 5. There is absolutely no excuse for you not to be at the highlight factory helping our Hawks win if you’re offered $10 tickets.

drmaryb

April 25th, 2010
1:25 am

You WIN & LOSE – The WAY you PLAY!

A btt-whippin’ A real eye – opener. The Hawks are not good enuff to relax against anyone.
Kobe & Joe, both dissed their teammates!

Mr. Woodson, IF J-Quick brought you to the “Dancing with the STARS?
Then Dance with J-Cross! For pete’s sake, at least LOSE the way you WON! You – can’t go wrong that way & maybe even KEEP your JOB – in the process.

Fresh

April 25th, 2010
2:21 am

Well,

atleast the Hawks wasn’t the only “favorite” to dissapoint tonight. Hell, they didn’t even have the largest defeat, that reward goes to the world-class Lakers. And I know one-more thing, I’d rather take a L to the Bucks than take one to the Thunder wit the rapidly improving and “Michael Jordan” call-getting Kevin Durant.

Greg

April 25th, 2010
3:33 am

Oklahoma City is a damn good team. Forget about them being a #8 seed vs Milwaukee’s #6. They are light years ahead of the Bucks. The West was so competitive that eighth seeded Thunder was only 7 games worse than the top seeded Lakers during the regular season.

OKC is the youngest team in the league and they already play with more composure and confidence than the Hawks do. Point is don’t draw a comparison between the Lakers and the Hawks because they both got blown out tonight. A good team would have still handled the Bucks. I don’t know if any team would have been able to beat the Thunder tonight.

Big Daddy

April 25th, 2010
3:34 am

I was stunned at what witnessed with the game last night. Where was the defense, what has happened to Jamaal’s shot and why did it look like Zaza made a better effort with more energy than Smoove and Al? So much of it is like a lot of people have said in that the coaches should have expected this and prepared the team to at least compete. The players had to know the Bucks have their backs against the wall and will come out fighting for their playoff lives. That said, we did not switch well, left the wrong people open and our fast break was just stifled.

I hope the guys do come out angry, embarrassed and ready to play on Monday because it doesn’t get any easier. If, and I expect they will, the Hawks get by the Bucks, the next team they face is going to be tougher at their home and probably steal one from us at the Highlight Factory. If we can’t at least compete away from home it is going to be a short playoff run. Jamaal, we need you!!!

Did you see that????

April 25th, 2010
6:06 am

“Marvin’s 1 for 7 shooting line looked bad but he had eight rebounds and probably was the best guy on closeouts.”

Das sum old bullsyt. Did you see Kevin Durant Last night? Marvin=Worst #2 pick in history. Dude has no heart or will to be great. We should trade him Mo (overrated utility player, ugliest jumpshot in bench history), and Bibby (old, just wanated that last contract, but knew he couldn’t deliver on it) to Memphis for Hasheem Thabeet and Rudy if the Grizz are that dumb.

Did you see that????

April 25th, 2010
6:06 am

Like Gearon said, it only counts in the playoffs and those scrubs+Woody/coaching staff and their whack offense haven’t gotten it done.

Marvin looked like he was scared to guard John Salmons at times. HE WANTED THE SWITHCH TO OCCUR WITH HIM AND BIBBY! WTF IS THAT???? What can bibby do against him that you can’t marvin???

Did you see that????

April 25th, 2010
6:08 am

Time for Sund to pull a Joe Dumars and trade in the 50 win coach (Carlisle) and his stupid switching for a real coach (hell bring on Avery he’s been to the finals before. Dirk is just soft and will never get there again. Just couldn’t take the heat).

Why in the hell is Bibby still in the NBA if he cant defend. Where was Jeff Teague? Why in the Hell were we doubling down in the post??? Kurt Thomas? Mbah a Moute? Just so they could do what they wanted to do this whole series!!! Jack uncontested jumpers!!!!!

I’m tired of it. You can say what you want, but this is the third postseason in a row where we’ve come out like this on the road and laid an egg. I’d say that’s a big enough sample space to make a definitive decision on the coaching staff/sum whack players who have no heart or will to be great (Marvin).

Did you see that????

April 25th, 2010
6:10 am

Marvin and Bibby should be demoted to the bench. And Smoove should be on the bench to start road games. I can’t believe after six years and playing ball ur whole lives you still act like scared sissies on the road. If they could they woulda peed in their pants cuz that’s what it looked like they wanted to do.

JJ and Zaza were the only dudes to show up last night. Jamal needs to get back on track I don’t care if it’s ur third playoff game. Jennings, Rose, and Durant are dropping 30+ nightly in the postseason.

If I were JJ, I wouldn’t come back unless we get a better starting PG and SF and get us a legit backup Seven footer and have zaza play backup the PF spot. And why in the hell are we switching everything on defense!!!! We’re not playing the Pheonix suns!!!! GET HIM OUTTA HERE!!!!

Did you see that????

April 25th, 2010
6:22 am

There is no excuse for coming out like that for the THIRD YEAR IN A ROW. You would think they would have geotten tired of all the haters: Jon/Brent Barry and Charles Barkley and finally get thier stuff together.

Did you see that????

April 25th, 2010
6:24 am

I mean Damn the Bucks played with more heart than that in the ATL. They have a better coach with a better gameplan also. Are we really the 3rd seed?

Did you see that????

April 25th, 2010
6:42 am

How do you get beat by Dan Gadzuric on the Boards???? He’s not even supposed to be in the NBA!!!!

Did you see that????

April 25th, 2010
6:47 am

Gadz his a jumpshot too!!!! I don’t even think he’s made one this whole NBA season!!!

Did you see that????

April 25th, 2010
7:03 am

“the hawks are sending a message to the rest of the playoff teams “if you get them down they will give up”

Free ride to the ECF for the Magic.

President Barack Obama

April 25th, 2010
7:03 am

Attention Hawks Fans:
I have just instituted a policy aimed at “bailing out” top-tier NBA playoff teams that are “too big to fail. If the Hawks were to lose this series, the economy would collapse; therefore, my policy will provide $700 Billion so that the Atlanta Hawks can buy a road win in the playoffs. Thank you and goodnight.

Eric

April 25th, 2010
7:04 am

This is the main reason Woodson don’t have a contract, for some reason he just can’t motivate his players. Trust me when I say the Hawks have all the pieces in place, they just have major mental breakdowns. They’ll find a way to make this a 6 or 7 game series which it shouldn’t, considering the Bucks are without Michael Redd and Bogut. It’s so frustrating being an Hawks fan, come on Hawks!!!

Karen

April 25th, 2010
7:05 am

I think this farce of a game should disabuse anyone of the notion that this team is going anywhere in the playoffs. The only time these guys will put out the effort is to pick up their paychecks and get to the tattoo parlor before closing time.

Pathetic losers. I feel bad for anyone who staked their Saturday night entertainment on the Hawks.

President Barack Obama

April 25th, 2010
7:07 am

My new policy will be aimed at aiding the Atlanta Hawks, a team that simply cannot win road playoff games. Therefore, I will proide $700 Billion so that this struggling NBA franchise can buy a playoff road win. Yes we can

Josh Smith

April 25th, 2010
7:08 am

Sweet I finally found something to do in Milwaukee: lose and play like total sh!t

j

April 25th, 2010
7:09 am

i think we all know the talent has been what has carried this team, not the coaching … talent can only take you so far though and we might be seeing that this series … seriously, coach should have called a time-out when the Bucks got up by 5. the other teams did that in the playoff series b/c they expected to win the games. you don’t just let your guys play through it and see where it goes after the team gets up by 15 or so points

lewis

April 25th, 2010
7:10 am

pathetic display. no excuses at all whatsoever. the entire game wa terrible to watch. FIRE MIKE WOODSON AND MIKE BIBBY

Maxx

April 25th, 2010
7:11 am

We should beat the Bucks Sunday night. They played well last night, got the calls, and we never got it going. I expect us to take the next two, but we have to play all-out and stay focused. When one of our guys takes it to the rack, we have to crash the Offensive boards and get those second-chance points, utilize our size and athleticism inside. Also, Mike Bibby was Defended much better off the pick in this game. He needs to take his shots decisively next game

Denver Hawk

April 25th, 2010
7:14 am

Hey Josh – there’s always PRACTICE GYMS “to do” in Milwaukee! BRING SOME FRIENDS!

Josh Smith

April 25th, 2010
7:16 am

Ayy man kin I shoo dat tree nah. Ih be in my range nah I promis

The Real Hawk

April 25th, 2010
7:16 am

1-9 in road games in the playoffs over last three years.
Enough said!

Ben Roethlisberger

April 25th, 2010
7:17 am

I “persuaded” a few ladies once in Milwaukee. I thought there was plenty of stuff to do.

truthspitter

April 25th, 2010
7:19 am

The Hawks will never win a championship until they rid themselves of there curses and demons and that speaks to one person Marvin the “Bust” Williams. Just think if he were Carmelo or Durant or Granger all guys chosen 2 or after. This guy is a bum.

Resign or Resign?

April 25th, 2010
7:20 am

The Bucks with Bogut & Redd would have swept the Hawks! What does that say for the “progress” this team has made? Crawford, whom I think is valuable, decides to dissappear in the playoffs? Where is the “great bench” (Jamal, Mo, ZaZa, etc.) we all thought we had? They were absent even in the two wins!

Pacco

April 25th, 2010
7:21 am

What a joke! These guys obviously have no pride. I’m so tired of tolerating and wasting my free time watching this lazy ass team! Play like you have some pride. Then again the NBA makes more money having teams throw games to extend series.

TigerWoods

April 25th, 2010
7:23 am

A beautiful day in ATL – ready for a round of golf after major rain this past weekend.

Well a nightmare last night, but as one famous person said a few years back, “we was who we said we was”

That means we was the team with no toughness. Our so called center, was a no show. Forget the stat line, when is he going to show up as a big man? Hint? Never, he is not a center. He can not even dominate Thomas, who is 90 years old. I mean my fair wife is tougher than Al with clubs in her hand, ooops sorry getting away from the subject.

My friend Wooden has no center, and people are picking on him. Not to mention no point guard. This team lacks defensive intensity all year, and it has to do with lack of a true center and a fast enough point guard. And that monk Marvin, what a joke. MC were you watching the game with your eyes blind folded? How you givin the monk credit? Bibby falling on the floor was the funniest thing. He is soooo old. He was afraid to to take his shots. why?

Ahh well kiddies, at least i live in the south, and hate Sweden (sorry i mean north)…

Chipper Jones

April 25th, 2010
7:23 am

Do the hawks have room on their bench? I’ve got some time on my hands.

Rock Preston

April 25th, 2010
7:25 am

Bottom line….No offensive philosphy. No head coaching ability. I hate to say this but the season can’t end fast enough so Woody can go!!!!!

Mr. Green Jeans

April 25th, 2010
7:29 am

You know, if we had come out, played solid defense, rebounded, shot the ball well, and still lost by 4, 6, or even 10 points – OK, no big deal. But to watch this no-account team tonight was sad, and a terrific indictment of the coach and his philosophies. How can you watch your team come out in the first half, play no offense, get down by 15 points and not call a timeout?

Why is it that Joe Johnson doesn’t have to play defense? How many times did Jennings go right by him tonight and score at will? sure he can shoot the eyes out of the ball, but this is a TEAM sport and everyone seemed to forget that tonight.

I’ve watched this team all my life and tonight was disgusting. Sorry, but the coach has to bear that responsibility – its his job to manage the team, its his job to prep the team, its his job to motivate the team. What he can’t do is play the game, and when your starters are in and aren’t playing team ball, put the kids in and give the starters the night off because they were clearly taking it. How many offensive rebounds did we get in the first half? where was the leadership in managing the ball tonight? You call that playing point Mike Bibby? Horford, you looked lost at times tonight.

I’m sorry, I can’t support this team and more importantly, this Coach. Mike you’ve done a fine job but you are clearly not the Coach of the future for this franchise. Take your money, go home, find another team to spend 10 years rebuilding and get on with your life. You’re done..