Cavaliers at Atlanta Hawks: Sitting On It (UPDATE: Marvin to play, other starters to sit)
Cavs coach Mike Brown said today at shooataround that LeBron and Shaq
won’t play tonight. Woody said he hadn’t made up his mind: “Game-time decision.” But chances are Hawks starters won’t play or get only token minutes considering the Hawks can’t improve their playoff seeding and that’s the way Woody approached last season’s finale under similar circumstances.
(EDIT: In pregame, Woody said Marvin would start alongside Teague, Joe Smith, and Zaza.)
The consensus among Hawks players is they’re fine with sitting.
“If anything, it helps after such a long season, Al said.
These two will watch the game tonight. (AP Photo/Mark Duncan)
For Brown, the main motivation behind sitting LeBron and Shaq is to avoid injury. “That had a lot to do with it,” he said.
This will be the fourth healthy scratch in a row for LeBron. Shaq just recently was cleared to return after missing six weeks with a thumb injury.
The Cavs will enter the playoffs with their full lineup of LeBron, Shaq, Mo Williams, Antawn Jamison and Anthony Parker having played together for just three full games. Brown wasn’t ready to say that’s not a worry because his team is so veteran.
“You worry,” Brown said. “As a coach you worry about a lot of things. You hope your worries don’t come true.”
After the shootaround, LeBron joked about whether his Atlanta fans want to see him play. Yeah, they do, and by the way does he feel for fans who bought tickets to games to see him as the main attraction? He shook his head: “I’ve played in every arena this year.”
That’s true, though I doubt it’s much solace for his fans who picked the wrong game to buy tickets. Some advice for those fans: If you want to see a star player on a good team, and his final visit is scheduled within the last week or so, best to catch him the first time he comes to town.
– There’s a feeling among the Hawks that the Heat might not go all out to beat the Nets tonight because Miami would rather face the Hawks than the Celtics. That’s not hard to believe. Heat coach Erik Spoelstra says manipulating the seeding would be “messing with the basketball gods” but, depending on how many lines you want to read between, the Hawks’ suspicions can be confirmed by looking at this Miami Herald story by Izzy:
Jermaine O’Neal, who missed one game and started only five against the Hawks (in the playoffs) last year because of a concussion, said the difference between the Hawks and Celtics is predictability.
“[The Hawks] can put you in a tough situation, especially in Atlanta,” O’Neal said. “They play at another level. But you never really know what to expect with those guys. But with Boston, you know it’s going to be very physical, it’s going to be a grind-out type of a game, every-possession-counts type of a game. So it’s kind of like, pick your poison, really.”
Of course, even if the Heat tanked it would need the Bucks to beat Boston tonight to “secure” the No. 6 seed. That should happen since the Celtics are likely to rest their starters, too, but you never know. Maybe the Bucks want the Hawks, too.
MC
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The Truth
April 14th, 2010
2:14 pm
Nice Omen!
JeJe
April 14th, 2010
2:17 pm
FIRE WOODY
JeJe
April 14th, 2010
2:20 pm
can’t believe more people don’t call out Bibby for being overweight.
The guy does NOT use his size to his advantage at all on the court.
1) He cannot post up players a la Baron Davis. B.Diddy uses his SIZE to post up SMALLER players. Bibby doesn’t do this
2) Because he is so big, he is too slow and immobile to GUARD other players. Seriously, someone faces him up, takes one dribble, and Bibby looks like the damn Statue of Liberty after the player has taken one dribble –> !@#$ing joke
So can someone tell me why Bibby feels the need to be so big??
GeeMack
April 14th, 2010
2:22 pm
It’s sad when you’re a top team’ but teams don’t respect you as a top team.
What O’neal was really saying is, Boston plays hard every night, even with all the injuries and aging.
The Hawks on the other hand can be beat, because 1 game they play perfect and inspired ball.
The next game they play like an expansion team.
You never know what you will get from those guys.
With that said we think we can beat them.
GeeMack
April 14th, 2010
2:26 pm
JeJe
Just because your a bigger guard doesn’t mean your athletic enough to post up. That’s not Bibby’s game
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
2:26 pm
Bring on DWade. So the Hawks could have their games schedule in the primetime slots. That way we can appeal to a wider audience.
phar71
April 14th, 2010
2:29 pm
Lets go Hawks, Lets go Heat, and lets go Celtics!
I sure we could get by the Bucks in no more than 5 games, the Heat might take us 7, and could beat us.
MSG
April 14th, 2010
2:30 pm
So what O’Neal was saying Miami is where they are because they did not preform this season
Hawk n the Ham
April 14th, 2010
2:35 pm
So, what your saying MC is, bet the house against the Heat tonight.
I’m calling my bookie now, thanks for the ‘insider’ info!!!!
The Truth
April 14th, 2010
2:35 pm
My message to Miami if they decide to manipulate the outcome of that game: Be careful what you wish for; THE STUNT COULD BACKFIRE The Hawk players would consider that a total disrespect of their accomplishment. They could use the action to feed their motivation especially since that series starts in the ATL.
Maxx
April 14th, 2010
2:39 pm
Of course we would rather see the Bogut-less Bucks instead of the Heat, simply because Dwayne Wade has the ability to take over a game, and we all saw him single-handedly win a the NBA Finals a few years ago. Regardless, I still think we would dominate the Heat in a 7 game series, and I don’t think it would go down to game 7 this year. But really it all comes down to whether we can beat the Magic and Cavs in a 7 game series, which would take a miracle considering we don’t have a true 7ft Center to battle against D Howard and Shaq/Z. I think it all really comes down to Marvin and our bench. If Marvin shows up and Crawford shows out (dropping 50), and Mo/Teague/ZaZa play like they have been lately, I think we have a legitimate chance. Use Mario West as a perimeter Defensive specialist. Use Jason Collins to bang with Shaq/Z and Howard. Get Joe Smith involved. The Hawks can do this
JeJe
April 14th, 2010
2:39 pm
“That’s not Bibby’s game”
So what is Bibby’s game? Shooting 3’s, most of which don’t go in, and not playing defense or taking anyone off the dribble?
JeJe
April 14th, 2010
2:40 pm
*Most of which as in his 3 pt shooting is down this year
JeJe
April 14th, 2010
2:41 pm
“They could use the action to feed their motivation especially since that series starts in the ATL.”
The Hawks would play hard for 2 quarters then let the Heat come back, and then grind it out. The Hawks don’t dominate teams anymore. Every game we play we are winning, let the other team back, and the game comes down to the last 3 possessions
BONE
April 14th, 2010
2:41 pm
SHAQ IS DUMB…………LOL ITS FUNNY BECAUSE BOSTON PLAYS HARD EVERY NIGHT AND STILL GETS THAT AZZ BEAT. ATLEAST THE HAWKS ARE IN A PLACE WHERE YOU KNO THEYRE POTENTIAL AND WHAT THEY CAN DO TO YOU IF THEY WANT, BOSTON ON THE OTHER HAND …. WELL…YOU GET WHAT YOU GET, A BUNG OF OLD GUYS WHO HAVE TOPPED OUT, AND THAT CANT B SAID FOR ANY OF THE HAWKS 8 PLAYER ROTATION…MAYBE BIBBY THO
Section 303
April 14th, 2010
2:50 pm
I do not think Miami will tank tonight just to face the Hawks. Really, it doesn’t matter. Heat are not good enough to beat either the Celtics or Hawks.
Did anyone else hear Barkley ripping on the C’s last night? He said the only way they could win a series would be to play a team in the East NOT in the playoffs. Don’t know if I agree, but love to see the Celtics get cut on.
BONE
April 14th, 2010
2:54 pm
IF THE CELTICS WERE PLAYING THE BOBCATS THEY MIGHT GET SWEPT LMAOOOOOOOO
MannyT
April 14th, 2010
2:59 pm
So tonight’s game is really the Happy Days Invitational with everyone getting the SIT ON IT message from the coaches.
I’m sure the financial arm of the Atlanta Spirit is real happy with this scheduling. Cavs come to town and you have no chance to fill the arena. How lucky
If Miami does roll over tonight, that might be good for ticket sales in the first round. How many folks would come to see Wade in the playoffs? Now ask that same question about John Salmons? It’s not disrespect, it’s lack of a marquee name to sell tickets.
BWAF
Hawk n the Ham
April 14th, 2010
3:00 pm
Is the all caps necessary? Really?
Justin
April 14th, 2010
3:18 pm
I really wanted to see the Hawks play the Bucks in round one, but then started thinking about it more. That would be a boring series. I would rather see the Hawks play D-Wade and the Heaters. We can beat them, so there’s no reason to be afraid. And if the Hawks throw this game to the Nets tonight just so they can get the Hawks, I’m sure that will add some motivation to the Hawks and raise the intensity of the series.
Justin
April 14th, 2010
3:21 pm
Correction- If the “Heat throw this game to the Nets”
THE TONE
April 14th, 2010
3:21 pm
the hawks will lose to the heat in 5 or 6 games , you know it I know it and the heat know it , how ugly will it be then , will the coach be on the hot seat then
King Tom
April 14th, 2010
3:24 pm
Who cares? The Hawks will never a championship with those bum leaders (Mike Woodson and Joe Johnson).
Dshep
April 14th, 2010
3:26 pm
The only thing holding this team back is Mike Woodson. He is the worst coach in the NBA!! I get so sick of hearing these “so called” anylist talk about this team’s year by year improvement. It comes down to the fact that Billy Knight was RIGHT in bringing Joe Johnson in here and he was right in trying to get rid of Mike Woodson. Now, I will agree Marvin has hurt us because Chris Paul would make this team incredible! ( Big whoops on Knight’s part) If we are lucky enough to make it to the 2nd round, the Magic will show us the door in 4! Why? Because Mike Woodson has no idea how to make adjustments. Say bye bye to Joe as well because he is no fool and wants to win a Championship and knows that will not happen with Woody at the helm.
Dshep
April 14th, 2010
3:26 pm
Tom is stupid if he think Joe is a problem!!!!!!!
THE TONE
April 14th, 2010
3:27 pm
not so sure Joe wants a championship if he is considering going to the knicks , but they do always beat the hawks .
Nacho
April 14th, 2010
3:35 pm
Bibby can’t post up. Bibby can’t dribble. Bibby can’t penetrate. Bibby can not create. Bibby CAN shoot.
Sounds like a role player and not a starter.
Dshep
April 14th, 2010
3:35 pm
In the NBA, you can get good quick if you have a bunch of Dough!!!!!! And The Kncks do!!!
Nacho
April 14th, 2010
3:35 pm
A very good role player.
Westurd
April 14th, 2010
3:49 pm
You have to get through all the teams to win it all so who cares what order the Hawks mow em down!
Grandad
April 14th, 2010
3:54 pm
Tiger Woods:
Tough Love…read Dr. James Dobson [I abhore his politics] so I’m talking about his books on parenting. “Dare to Discipline” Excellent!
Dr. John Rosemond another. However, nowhere is bullying mentioned as
an accepted method. Try reading the works of DR.Elizabeth Kubler-Ross.
As for practical experience, I’ve worked with countless younsters
and if you insist on putting a label on them, yes, African American youth. However I detest having to stereotype because a young man is just that a young man. Also, I am well aware of some of the difficulties young men face; black, white, latino, pink just being an adolescent makes life tough. But you throw in a single parent home, a dead beat dad, poverty, moving when the rent comes due, wait a minute…that was me. Now they have to deal with gangs, drugs,
teenage pregnancy, AIDS, & grown-ups that don’t provide stability.
Nah…I’m old an out of touch with reality.
Yeah that’s what they need bullying.
I have, am still, and will continue to mentor the youth of our society. That is my ministry!
There are Plenty of African American moms with which I could use as a reference were it necessary.
This conversation ceases now.
post script: I left you an article on the last blog.
Please & with all sincerity have a nice day.
cory
April 14th, 2010
4:05 pm
wow. there are a lot of haters here. The Hawks are a very good team that doesnt always show up to play. They will definitely step their game up whether they play the Heat or Bucks. They will get out of the 1st round in 5. They are perfectly capable of beating the Magic or Cavs in the 2nd round. They have been winning all the games against both teams & had some cold spots in the games, particularly towards the end of the 4th that lost them the game. It will be a different story in the playoffs. Marvin will also step up to do more on the offensive end. The Hawks will make it to the Conference Finals against the Magic. Quote me
cory
April 14th, 2010
4:06 pm
Grandad, We arent talking about Tiger, but your words are appreciated lol
Grandad
April 14th, 2010
4:16 pm
cory:
I was responding to a post on a previous blog.
The young fella’s handle was “Tiger Woods”.
jg
April 14th, 2010
4:16 pm
all of you bibby bashers need to give it up. he’s the only guy we have that keeps this bunch together. his play has improved considerably over the past month too. please be careful what you wish for–look at the games he’s been out–we look clueless. yes we could start teague but he’s not yet ready, we could start joe and jamal together that might work, joe and mo and a few other combos but at the end of the day–this team won 52 games–truthfully should have won 60. we have a really good team the way it is…it’s playoff time now–whoever gets hot can and will win the east.
true the favorites have to be the cavs and the magic–but if the hawks crank it up a notch or two we can win the eastern conference. we have the talent!!!!
as far as tonight goes–bucks or heat–obviously i would rather face the bucks. but sometimes we do play down to our competition so whoever we end up with let’s take care of the business at hand and worry about round 2’s opponent when we get there. go hawks it’s put up or shut now boys….everybody’s 0-0.
SWAT Native
April 14th, 2010
4:18 pm
It’s amazing how perspectives can vary. I was just reading the Buck’s blog, and it says that they want no part of the Hawks in the playoffs (especially without Bogut) because of their overall length (”they’re like an AAU team”), their switching defense, their ability of their bigs to cover a guard when they do switch, Smoove’s ability to recover and block shots when you finally beat a switch, can’t stop Joe, the Hawks are harder to hate because they’re not very “villainy”, etc. Meanwhile, the Heat are supposed to prefer the Hawks.
O'Brien
April 14th, 2010
4:22 pm
If you’re Miami, why would you want Boston.
Miami went 0-3 against Boston (although all 3 games were close), and 3-1 against the Hawks. Plus they took the Hawks to game 7 last year. I think Miami would prefer ATL.
Manny T mentioned this on another blog. Who would the ASG like to see the Hawks play? Bucks or Heat? Heat and DWade bring extra revenue, more fans, prime time games etc, which is good for marketing.
From espn.com,
“Boston Celtics coach Doc Rivers is leaning toward leaving the team after this season, sources told the Boston Herald, but he told the newspaper Tuesday that no final decision had been made about his future”.
For the record, if he does leave, he says it would be to spend more time with his family.
O'Brien
April 14th, 2010
4:27 pm
More reasons why Miami might prefer Hawks instead of Celtics.
1) Less travel time. From Miami to Atl is not a long trip.
2) Wade has more fans in ATL than he does in Boston.
3) Wade will get all the calls in ATL, while he would have to share the calls in Boston (KG and Pierce will get some).
O'Brien
April 14th, 2010
4:30 pm
Also, if Miami finishes 6th, then they will avoid Cleveland in the second round. And nobody (except maybe Boston) wants to play Cleveland in the second round.
BRAVO GO
April 14th, 2010
4:31 pm
Dear Jermaine,
Be careful what you wish for.
PMC
April 14th, 2010
4:32 pm
We have TV now, you can see guys play every single night. Who didn’t know that star players sit after they clinch?
Grandad
April 14th, 2010
4:32 pm
Cory: I double checked – “TigerWoods” [no space] (my mistake).
The Truth
April 14th, 2010
4:39 pm
If Doc is leaning, that means he’s gone. Nice move Doc, get out with some dignity.
Clay
April 14th, 2010
4:47 pm
Man all yall have got to be kidding me, talking all this smack on atlanta. Do yall even know what there record is? Yeah they have over 50 wins. That has’nt been done by them since the 97-98 season. OVER 10 YEARS, and all you want to talk about is how bad the team is. How in the hell did they win over 50 games then if they suck? People want to talk about WOODY not being a good coach and he need to be fired. Someone please name me 5 coaches, that has bettered there record each year for the last 6 years. I sure as hell cant think of any. Oh and every single one of you hawk hatters that live here in atlanta will probably go to the games or watch it on tv and still be routing for them. Yall are unbelievable with all that bulls*** you are saying about how s**tty they are. Come on man.
mario
April 14th, 2010
5:11 pm
Hey with the HAWKS playing the Bucks does this mean our playoff games wont be on national TV, TNT…….
mario
April 14th, 2010
5:19 pm
JUST BECAUSE THE TEAM HASNT WON THIS MANY GAMES BEFORE IS NOT A REASON TO BE HAPPY..YOU HAVE TO JUDGE THE PRODUCT SEEN AND HAS THIS TEAM PROGRESS AND WILL IT PROGRESS WITH SAME PLAYERS AND LEADERSHIP IN PLACE….THIS IS WHAT WE FANS SHOULD JUDGE AND GMANAGEMENT SHOULD JUDGE WHEN THEY MAKE OFFSEASON ADJUSTMENTS…..
REALLY YALL MAY NOT THINK THIS BUT THE HAWKS REALLY CAN COMPETET W\FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR AND COMING YEARS…IF THEY MINIMIZE MISTAKE A, THAT THEY SEEM TO CONSTANTLY MAKE AT INOPPORTUNE TIMES AND REALIZE IN THE FINAL MOMENTS OF GAMES THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE BALL TO BASKET AND GET FOULED LIKE OTHER TEAMS DO TO US IN THIER COMEBACKS……
i_am_soulstar
April 14th, 2010
5:29 pm
lol Not so loud Mario
These Heat fans are crazy if they think they’re going to beat us in a 7 game series, or even if they think they have a chance of competing.
Just as it applies to the Hawks 4-0 game record with the Celtics, it applies to the Heat. Season games mean nothing come playoff time.
Guys are playing at an entirely different level.
SWAT Native
April 14th, 2010
5:31 pm
Some of the Heat fans think that they would be better off with Boston:
I believe the Heat can be 2nd round and out especially if it goes up against Boston. Atlanta are solid at too many position and they got a wild-crd that just happens to be a Heat-killer in Crawford. Boston bench is slacking and KG just isn’t strong at this point in the season and career.
Stat Man
April 14th, 2010
5:41 pm
FIRE WOODY – HIRE DOC, an Atlanta favorite back in the 80’s!!!!
lewis
April 14th, 2010
5:52 pm
do not fire woody. make him an assistant.
LouFan
April 14th, 2010
5:53 pm
So I have been reading all the posts and I am disgusted… Seriously guys? Hawks will destroy the Heat or Bucks easily. You really think that the Heat have a chance? That is amusing. They pretty much have the same caliber as last year. We have Jamal Crawford and a more improved/consistent group. If we play with heart and come out with something to prove, we will demolish the Heat in 5 games. Yes the heat are 3-1… But the regular season means nothing. Mark my words on that.
You do not think Jamal Crawford is not going to come out with a huge playoffs? First time ever going? We are going to surprise everyone this year. Yes, we have flaws. All teams have flaws. But we are young, athletic, and best of all…. the underdog. Most people think we will not make it out the second round, and some people say not even the first round if we get the Heat.
I really think most fans are truly ungrateful for the achievements this team has made. Al and Josh have grown greatly. Joe Johnson is phenomenal and I hope he stays. Bibby and Marvin have done sub par this year but I believe they will kick it up in the playoffs. JC is a great add on. The bench has been stepping up. If we stay healthy, we will give a good fight in the second round and potentially the eastern finals. I am not even worried about the first round. This team is very underrated and I like it. You will see in the playoffs. They will make a run for the eastern title.
JeJe
April 14th, 2010
5:57 pm
JC is a great add on the bench?
Childress? COLLINS?
Marvin will kick it up in the playoffs?
wow……..
The Truth
April 14th, 2010
6:18 pm
I have to admit; Thank God for diversity of thought on these Blogs. When it is customary for playoff bound NBA fans to pause and celebrate a 3-seeded playoff appearance while our players take a virtual victory lapse, some of the “so-call” Hawk Fans can’t seem to bury the hatchet. This is the time when the best of the NBA teams take center stage while the world watch, listen and enjoy competitive entertainment. No doubt, they are watching and taking notes right now.
LouFan
April 14th, 2010
6:22 pm
JC = sixth man of the year. AVG 18 points per game off the bench. Imagine how he will do in the playoffs. Who we have last year? Flip Murray….
Marvin will kick it up in the playoffs. The guy gets barely any touches. Are you sure you watch the regular season? Blame Woodson for that.
Zaza, maurice evans, and joe smith will hold it down just fine.
We are a better team than last year. Period.
Greg
April 14th, 2010
6:44 pm
When Chicago fire Vinnie Del Negro, I don’t know who they’ll bring in, but it’s safe to say he’ll be able to run circles around DeadWood. And job #1 for that new Chicago coach will be to bring in Joe Johnson to team up with Derrick Rose in the backcourt. Consider job 1 mission accomplished. JJ will be in a Bulls uniform next year and they’ll have the pieces in place to make a nice run within a year or two.
NATIVE SON
April 14th, 2010
7:05 pm
I said it last year, and I’ll say it again. Everybody who thinks the Heat are on such a hot streak, better check and see who you beat up before declaring yourself the champ. Wade is way over-rated, makes crummy commercials, and I’ve seen him cry. The Hawks should have no fear concerning #s 5 thru 8,and they are capable of tackling the left coast.
Peace from THE NATIVE
JeJe
April 14th, 2010
7:06 pm
JC = CRAWFORD
Haha thought this guy meant Collins. My fault, Ajc Peeps
philip
April 14th, 2010
7:12 pm
Let’s go hawks let’s cool the miami heat (aka the miami meat)
Craig
April 14th, 2010
7:22 pm
Speaking of Crawford, is he playing tonight?
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
7:27 pm
Jermaine O’Neal wasn’t telling any lies. You really don’t always know what to expect from the Hawks.
Having said that, the Hawks are a better road team than last year, we’re healthier than last year, and Woody has more offensive options than last year (and more refined ones).
The Heat can say what they want. This won’t be something they can push to 7 games, unless the Hawks fall apart completely, which I don’t see happening.
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
7:28 pm
ESPN just did NBA regular season top plays…
Josh’s put back and Mal’s 3 against PHX made the list… Kenny Mayne felt Jamal’s shot should’ve been 2nd to Kobe’s buzzer beaters…
all in all, we’ve had some fantastic finishes this season… along side some awful meltdowns…
Ken Strickland
April 14th, 2010
7:30 pm
If we’re going to make a big issue of if we’d rather play the Bucks or Heat in the 1st rd, it really doesn’t matter whether we win or not does it, since we’ll likely have to play the Cavs or Magic in the 2nd rd. Think about it, if we’re afraid of teams we might play in the 1st rd, we would be terrified of any team we’d have to play in the 2nd rd, since 2nd rd opponents are almost always better than 1st rd opponents.
We should be completely confident in our ability to dispatch any 1st rd opponent we face. Realistically, we should have the same attitude about any 2nd rd opponent, including Cleveland and Orlando. The only difference should be the number of gms it will take to get the job done.
Basically, HC Mike Woodson is the key to how far we go in the playoffs. If he dispenses with his personal bias’ toward certain players and plays his players sensibly, utilizes his bench effectively and counters moves made by his opponent, before halftime, we can beat anyone in this yrs playoffs, period.
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
7:31 pm
The Truth ,
Sad, isn’t it? People carry on their personal agendas so doggedly that they can’t even see when people are agreeing with them or “burying the hatchet” as you call it.
By the way, it’s nice to have somebody with the worth “truth” in their blog name, that actually knows what the word means and isn’t continually representing the opposite of it.
philip
April 14th, 2010
7:32 pm
holy s@#t! Were gunna get blown out of our building with our starting lineup today! Hey but ya gotta do what ya gotta do? Rest your starters and key players and hopefully we can beat the miami meat in the playoffs1
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
7:36 pm
JeJe ,
Jason Collins is out for the season with a foot injury, if I recall correctly. We could probably use some of his fouls in the second round, but I guess we’ll have to settle for that from RandMo instead.
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
7:39 pm
no wade tonight…
i smell puuuuuuuuuuuusssssss…
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
7:40 pm
lol .. can’t believe the mia sweets are going out like that…
motivation Hawks.. motivation…
Samuel
April 14th, 2010
7:52 pm
For all you “scrubb” Avery Johnson fans. This man doesn’t have Kobe Bryant in his Top 5 MVP candidates. That alone proves he has lost it. Say No To Mr. Bill.
Hawk n the Ham
April 14th, 2010
7:57 pm
WooHoo!!! It’s ISO-Mario time folks!!!
Sautee
April 14th, 2010
8:00 pm
Truth-serum (Granbad) is lying yet AGAIN. In the very chart that he posts, he says that Horfords rebounds are down when the post CLEARLY shows his rebounds UP from last year (9.3 to 9.9).
Truth-serum ALSO said early in the year (or maybe it was before the season stated) that he’d be FINE with Horford producing 15 and 10, though he doubted Al could do it. Well, here are his season numbers and he’s VERY CLOSE to 15 and 10 (14.2 and 9.9), and yet here is Truth-serum doing all he can to discredit an All-Star player. Maybe he forgot that he said it.
Truth-serum will apparently go to ANY lengths of lying to discredit our All-Star Center.
I’ll tell you all that I would pay top dollar to see Truth-serum call Al face-to-face any of the vile things he’s called him on the blog.
THAT would be entertaining!
Blast
April 14th, 2010
8:01 pm
Best Hawks team ever. Best Hawks season that I remember. Bigdave was right. We’ve had our highs and some awful lows. We lost games we had no business losing. We won games everybody thought we would lose. We had thrillers, buzzer beaters, mean, nasty dunks, sweet passes, blockfests, swarming defence, and a bad ass 6th man of the year. Regular season I know was frustrating for us fans sometimes, but it’s been a thrilling one. And here are some of Hawks accomplishments this season:
50+ wins. What else can I say?
Hawks got a lot of monkeys off their back this year. Snapped the losing streak in Utah. Finally got some justice when they made the dreaded Texas Triangle trip. Hawks swept Utah, swept Celtics, swept Portland, swept Houston, swept Memphis, along with bottom feeders like Wizards.
Hawks split with West powerhouses LA, Denver, Phoenix, Dallas and Spurs. In fact, the only team Hawks have not beaten at least once this season is Cleveland. I hope they get that done tonight.
So I simply laugh when I read these negative posts. Wish you guys were around when Hawks were winning 13 games. Wonder what you would have said then.
Truth is Hawks are still jelling, still getting better. Hell, they won the 3rd seed without getting virtually anything from Marvin, and even Bibby to some extent. Imagine if those two bring their A game in the playoffs.
Don’t know about you folks, but I have had a blast of a season, and I’m riding this train to the very end!
Go,Hawks!
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
8:03 pm
lmao@marvin has to play
philip
April 14th, 2010
8:05 pm
true that! Let’s go hawks get it done!
The Truth
April 14th, 2010
8:07 pm
Big Ray
Thanks for the props
sam'l
April 14th, 2010
8:07 pm
Blog from before Chicago-Bulls game (yes, I’m taking credit for once)
“It looks like Chicago needs this game against the Celtics tonight. The Raptors have better division wins…if I’ve figured this out,tie goes to the Raptors.
I think Chicago may put up a really good game tonight. I think they’ll win.
Have the Champagne ready…..or at least the popcorn. ”
I should have said peanuts…other than that, 100% correct.
Now, what’s happening tonight?
O'Brien
April 14th, 2010
8:09 pm
Listening to a Cleveland station online, most of the fans were complaining about Mike Brown being the team’s only weakness.
They said he is stubborn and slow to adjust. And he does not take advantage of matchups. i felt like they were talking about Woody lol. The only difference, was Brown (a defensive HC) has always gotten his team to play defense.
Anyways, all that doesn’t matter now. Lets play the game, and let the chips fall where they may
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
8:10 pm
lol at Marvin.
It’s duck time
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
8:11 pm
this is marvs time to shine
Blast
April 14th, 2010
8:12 pm
Maybe the 1st time I’ve seen Joe in a suit. He looks good.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
8:13 pm
check out the tux
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
8:13 pm
oh.. Z the freshest Hawk hands down.
Blast
April 14th, 2010
8:14 pm
With few starters, look out for a ragged game.
Sleepy
April 14th, 2010
8:14 pm
Crawford shouldve played tonight even if it was only for 20 minutes . If we dont play Saturday he will have had a full week off and thats just not a good thing with each playoff game being so crucial.The starters will have about 4-5 days off which is right but a full week can easily throw you out of rhythm and Crawford was cooking.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
8:15 pm
JT gets the roll
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
8:15 pm
Jamal Crawford looks loke the sixth Reservoir Dog.
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
8:15 pm
Teague starting tonite but Bibby dress out as well. Lets see if Woody can fight the temptation not to play him…
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
8:17 pm
No way Crawford should play tonight! Don’t forget, he’s coming off an injury – why play him in a meaningless game?
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
8:17 pm
I wonder who will replace mo evans next season since hes opting out
northcyde
April 14th, 2010
8:18 pm
A lot of milestones reached, streaks broken, and great moments this year:
- won @ Utah for the first time since Tupac was alive
- went 4 – 2 vs the Texas teams . . first winning record over them in ages
- mopped the floor with a good Celtics team
- turned the BIG 3 into the BIG 4
- went 21 – 9 vs the Western Conference
- beat every playoff team at least once, with the execption of Oklahoma City and Cleveland ( which may change tonight )
- winning record vs .500+ teams
- 4 buzzer beater wins
Just a lot of memorable moments about this season so far.
Sautee
April 14th, 2010
8:18 pm
LOL @ ‘Nique: “Jamison has an unarthedox delivery on that shot.”
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
8:19 pm
Truth Serum ,
I appreciate the words. And if you ever managed to not call me a member of the fabled “bubba crew”, I just don’t know what I would do. Lions would lay down with lambs, the sky would fall, pigeons and seagulls would stop $h!tting on everything they fly over, and Democrats and Republicans would stop slinging mud at each other. Oh, and there would be peace in the middle east.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
8:19 pm
lol this game will be ugly
Blast
April 14th, 2010
8:19 pm
Did I say ragged? Look for Bibby to come in soon.
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
8:21 pm
Mario is a scoring machine…
Blast
April 14th, 2010
8:21 pm
Funny as hell! Mario tied his season high with what? 5 points?
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
8:21 pm
lol@career night for Mario West already
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
8:22 pm
DAMN
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
8:22 pm
lmaooooooo hixon
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
8:22 pm
J.J. dunk that one from Atlantic Station.
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
8:22 pm
O’brien ,
Have to laugh at the irony. I guess that fans are alike everywhere, eh? I mean damn…could it be that fans for other teams acted like fans for this team? You do realize you have shaken the very foundation of Northcyde’s reality, right? Inconceivable!
Sorry, Northcyde , but there are times when I just don’t even try to resist the urge…
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
8:22 pm
lmao this is just awful
Sautee
April 14th, 2010
8:23 pm
That dunk by Hickson HAD to be Horford’s fault!
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
8:23 pm
am i the only one actually enjoying this..?
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
8:23 pm
Marvin fits right in with these scrubs
LouFan
April 14th, 2010
8:24 pm
Well. Looks like we are getting the Heat. Good, we can finally shut up these D Wade lovers. They are out in 5.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
8:24 pm
lol I doubt I will watch all of the game ill just turn back when they give out awards and jerseys
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
8:24 pm
LOL @ Mac
don’t talk about darkwing duck like that
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
8:24 pm
lmao@Nique – “I think it’s safe to say he’s going to SHATTER that mark tonight”
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
8:25 pm
These type of games just arent the same without talents such as Thomas Gardener and Othello Hunter on the court in Hawks unis.
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
8:26 pm
LouFan,
How do you figure we’re getting the Heat? Their game just started with N.J.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
8:27 pm
ISO Marvin tonight
terrell
April 14th, 2010
8:28 pm
I called it. Heat tanking it, and Boston resting the big 3. See yall in South Beach.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
8:28 pm
man its fun watching mario west
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
8:28 pm
the celtics are beating the bucks
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
8:29 pm
damn teague is quick
terrell
April 14th, 2010
8:30 pm
“Marvin fits right in with these scrubs”. LMAO!
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
8:30 pm
I wonder whats big z 40 speed
LouFan
April 14th, 2010
8:32 pm
All the starters are benched for Mia. O’neal and Wade in particular. Plus the Celts have all their big guys benched. Looks like it should turn out that way.
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
8:32 pm
The Heat is winning 16-14 – not exactly tanking it . . .
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
8:32 pm
lmao zaza best dresser?
O'Brien
April 14th, 2010
8:32 pm
Blast,
Mario’s season high is 5. And his career high is 7 lol.
Is it just me, or is ‘Nique all over Mario with compliments?
Ray,
One thing I heard interesting about Mike Brown, is the fans said he is so concerned about the defensive matchups (and stopping other teams from scoring), that he does not focus on the offense like he should. As a result, he does not take advantage of the offensive mismatches that his team creates. Sound just like Woody.
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
8:32 pm
J.J.M. ,
I don’t know, but if he head butts you at the end of it, it won’t matter how fast he was going…. LOL
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
8:32 pm
lmao…lol
who said that? Teague dresses like a 15 year old?
Sautee
April 14th, 2010
8:32 pm
J.J.M.,
About this:
“I wonder whats big z 40 speed”
It’s kinda like that VW billboard that says:
0-60? yes.
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
8:32 pm
Wade has a stylist… my boy Z… swaaaaaaaaaaged UP!
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
8:33 pm
O’brien ,
Heh. Imagine that.
Blast
April 14th, 2010
8:33 pm
Zaza’s dress style assessment. Think that was some funny stuff! And he seemed to get it right!
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
8:33 pm
Uh Oh porkchop collins is in LMAO
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
8:34 pm
Collins is gonna eat somebody
terrell
April 14th, 2010
8:34 pm
No wonder Mo is opting out. I would too, if my Coach started Marvin instead of me.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
8:34 pm
Twins towers, Randmo and Collins, comin out of the warm ups???
It’s all over now
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
8:34 pm
Of course Jermaine O’Neal is resting on the bench. Ol’ “broke knee mountain” could crap out on them at any time, and they’d have to go with a mixture of Joel Anthony (who plays well against us) and Udonis Haslem to make up for it.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
8:35 pm
The Cavs will take jumpers all night with that post presence we have in there now, just look at the talent
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
8:35 pm
Did Collins jump on his jumpshot?????
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
8:35 pm
I thought cheeseburger Collins was injured? Huh…
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
8:35 pm
Damn the bench is laffin LOL
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
8:36 pm
lmao@head butt man big z would kill somebody with his head
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
8:36 pm
Melvin,
He never does. That’s what the bench is laughing about.
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
8:37 pm
tiger woo,
I wouldnt say Miami is tanking but they need to win their last game to secure a higher seed and decide to sit DWade, O’neal and Haslem…. Yeah right…
lewis
April 14th, 2010
8:38 pm
damn. it sucks to be in ohio. only thing worse than listening to nique is having to listen to Austin Carr.
northcyde
April 14th, 2010
8:39 pm
Yeah . . . what Blast said. He and I were thinking the same thing at the same time. Except it took me a minute to write it from my phone . . lol
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
8:39 pm
Once Teague start converting more of his shots around the basket, look out. Tony Parker 2.0
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
8:41 pm
Collins is 7ft. Why is he fronting Big Z???
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
8:42 pm
lmao@Mo Williams look like John Legend
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
8:42 pm
LMAO @ collins runnin after the ball
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
8:43 pm
No way Collins was going to catch the ball before it rolled out of bounds or before the shot clock runs out…
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
8:43 pm
Randolph should’ve taken side show out…
Justin
April 14th, 2010
8:43 pm
The Nets are so bad the Heat can’t even lose to them with their sorry second unit. We’ll still be playing the Bucks.
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
8:43 pm
Why did we sign Collins again?
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
8:43 pm
Orlando is not resting any starters tonight – I’m taking a wild guess stating they will be fine in the playoffs.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
8:43 pm
Jason Collins makes me long for the glory days of Esteban “Steve” Batista.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
8:44 pm
See where are the teague haters. Like that dweeb Northcyde
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
8:44 pm
lmao ay mo williams do look like john legend
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
8:44 pm
Mario West wants to get a dunk so bad
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
8:47 pm
Woodson is an idiot for letting Collins and Randmo get minutes tonight. Now the Cavs can get an idea/strategy against our secret plans we had to stop Shaq/Z/and that tall Brazilian woman
Blast
April 14th, 2010
8:47 pm
The bar in the NBA as per how many wins you need to get to the playoffs has been increasing every year. 2 years ago, Hawks squeaked into the 8th spot with a 37 win season. Last year they secured the 4th spot by winning 47. Now in the East, you need at least 41 wins to make the 8th seed in the East, and in the West, you must win like 50 ballgames to even make the 8th spot. Crazy, huh?
Just shows the NBA is getting better. Lots of new, young and good blood coming into the league. The OKC team is a perfect example. Young guns making big noise.
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
8:48 pm
Right on, Najeh .
Batista was one tough SOB. I remember him fighting Shaq in the post a few years back. Dude was very tough and scrappy. I’d take him over Cheeseburger Collins and RandMo. Cest la vie…
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
8:49 pm
I dont know how much more of this game i can take lol
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
8:50 pm
Will Woody play Teague all 48 mins tonight?
O'Brien
April 14th, 2010
8:50 pm
Ray,
I thought Collins was injured too.
Melvin,
Agreed. Teague’s biggest weakness is his jump shot. If he starts making those more consistently, I think Woody will increase his PT. Because in the open court, he is unstoppable, and his defense will improve.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
8:51 pm
Props to the Philips Arena organist for playing “Notorious Thugs”, one of Biggie’s most underrated songs.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
8:51 pm
“better have my donuts”
Lacsho
April 14th, 2010
8:52 pm
Mel he needs too!!!!!
Mel
April 14th, 2010
8:53 pm
Melvin..
Woody’s making up for the last 80 games on Teague lol
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
8:54 pm
Blast ,
Good post.
Blast
April 14th, 2010
8:54 pm
Actually, Jason Collins has made two jumpshots, both without getting off his feet. That’s why Hawks bench were laughing.
Mel
April 14th, 2010
8:55 pm
Man if Marvin lets Evans lead the team in scoring!! WTH this is your time to shine… take some aggressiveness into the playoffs and he’s letting his backup show him up
Lacsho
April 14th, 2010
8:56 pm
What it do Big Ray?
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
8:56 pm
there goes that “hot date” music again
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
8:56 pm
LOL.
Morris shows Collins what happens when you put the cheeseburgers down: you can get rebounds. Morris- 3 rebounds, Collins- 0 rebounds, both with identical time played.
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
8:57 pm
Lacsho ,
What’s up, my brutha?
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
8:58 pm
lol is Randmo already about to foul out?
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
8:58 pm
dang 4 fouls already
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
8:58 pm
Figured Mo Evans would bring it for this game. He should lead the way in scoring.
Blast
April 14th, 2010
8:58 pm
Big Ray,
Appreciate, man, but what post were you referring to? I believe I’ve dropped a couple of decent post tonight.
RandMo is a walking foul magnet.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
8:59 pm
mo evans is showing off for next season since hes opting out
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
8:59 pm
Damn Marv that was sorry
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:00 pm
lmaoooooooooo@marvin
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:00 pm
Varejao looks exactly like a character named “Andore” from that old video game called “Final Fight”
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NErvggDZ8Ag/SMbm4l5-wAI/AAAAAAAAAEg/vlFTHjl3Jzk/s320/andore.png
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:01 pm
How is Marvin the worst player out there?
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:01 pm
man marvin sucks
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:01 pm
Sideshow Bob is still the best Varejao lookalike out there.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:02 pm
lmaoo
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:02 pm
LOL @ Mac
I remember when I was in high school there was this one girl who looked like blanka off of street fighter.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:02 pm
Organist plays “We Fly High” by Jim Jones, and Joe Smith hits the side of the backboard right around the time Jim Jones would say “Ballin!”
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:03 pm
CLEARLY Mo Evans is more useful than Marvin
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:04 pm
I bet Varejao hair smell like hyena burps
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
9:04 pm
Working on that “broke” jumpshot should be a high priority for Mr. Teague in the off-season.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:04 pm
lol blanka was that dude
lewis
April 14th, 2010
9:04 pm
yeah i’m really going to miss mo evans. we coulda won 3 more games this year had he been getting more minutes earlier on in the season
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
9:05 pm
OB,
Delonte can not shake free of Teague. West normally killed the Hawks but not tonite with Teague guarding him…
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
9:06 pm
“we coulda won 3 more games this year had he been getting more minutes earlier on in the season”
Woulda, coulda – who knows? Speculation, at best.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:06 pm
Man if only Teague got more mins throughout the season.
Sautee
April 14th, 2010
9:08 pm
Three dunks now for the Cavs. All Horford’s fault, of course.
terrell
April 14th, 2010
9:08 pm
Is anybody still holding onto false hope when it comes to Marvin’s game? Seriously. If so, speak now.
Blast
April 14th, 2010
9:08 pm
This is a crazy game, man! Bench/sub bench vs bench/sub bench! Which bench will prevail?
Cavs seems to be getting their rocks off with the few highlights they’ve got so far.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:08 pm
U seriously cannot tell that Marvin is a starter. He is that bad.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:09 pm
Mo Williams = lebron n*t hugger
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:11 pm
lmao@marvin tried to go behind the back
WOMP WOMP WOMP
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:11 pm
DAMN MARVIN SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSS
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:11 pm
lmaoooooo marvin has got to be traded
terrell
April 14th, 2010
9:11 pm
Marvin, Marvin, Marvin.
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
9:11 pm
Teague missing shots left and right.
However…still keeping his teammates involved by racking up 7 dimes in the first half.
Mel
April 14th, 2010
9:12 pm
“Mo Williams = lebron n*t hugger”
CO-SIGN
its disgusting
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:12 pm
Mo williams might be one off the biggest lebron jockriders on the planet.
Blast
April 14th, 2010
9:12 pm
Wish Jamal was playing in this game, man.
Sleepy
April 14th, 2010
9:12 pm
You guys better pray Marvin has a good playoffs so we can dump him
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:13 pm
smh I bet mo williams would do anything lebron tell him to do
cp
April 14th, 2010
9:13 pm
Teague, Pachulia, Mario, and Evans are looking good tonight. Marvin even playing with the second unit doesn’t stand out.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:13 pm
I think Rick Sund will use this game to justify why Marvin should go.
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
9:13 pm
i dont think this Marvin Williams things is panning out like we thought..
Sleepy
April 14th, 2010
9:13 pm
Mo Williams needs to be resting because its looking as though he has a date with Derrick Rose this weekend . Let him get his laughs in now lol
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:13 pm
If the national media was calling me an All Star just for dribbling the ball up the court, handing it to LeBron, and making 3’s occasionally, I’d be hugging LeBron’s nuts too.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:14 pm
Did you guys see him on the sideline, waiting for lebron to do somethin, then he’d mimic it..like a small toddler with his father. Mo Williams is wack.
BONE
April 14th, 2010
9:14 pm
LIKE………..ORAL……………..LOL GET YALL MINDS OUTTHA GUTTA
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
9:14 pm
I bet Varejao hair smell like hyena burps
Waaaaahahahahahahaaaa!
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
9:14 pm
“Mo Williams = lebron n*t hugger”
defines nut hugging…
cp
April 14th, 2010
9:14 pm
Big Ray I would love to see Teague go back to attacking the basket. This summer the only 2 things he should do in my opinion is work on his J and that floater. He is good at getting his teammates involved. If Joe Smith could ever hit a jumper Teague might have 10 plus dimes already tonight.
terrell
April 14th, 2010
9:14 pm
J.J.M., In order to be traded you have to find a parter. I would’nt pick Marvin to be on my team in a backyard pickup game, and you think someone is gonna trade for him? Yeah right. lol!
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:14 pm
Marvin there is a reason why u are playing while the rest of the starters aren’t. It’s cuz u suck.
Cannon
April 14th, 2010
9:15 pm
Looking at this makes me wanna cry. Oh what could of been!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NBA_Draft
Sleepy
April 14th, 2010
9:16 pm
With Marvin for me at least its not about the numbers but he is like the invisible man out there when he should probably be the most the animated guy out there. With his talent,years of exp. stature he should be standing out if not the stat sheet then physically.
stupid tag line
April 14th, 2010
9:16 pm
big ray when was the last time bibby shoots 2-7 and still dropped alot of assists?
- Retarded Tag line!
BONE
April 14th, 2010
9:17 pm
TEAUGE>BIBBY NOW N FUTURE
terrell
April 14th, 2010
9:17 pm
Has Joe Smith hit that jumper at least 1 time this year? Seriously.
cp
April 14th, 2010
9:17 pm
The sad thing is, you can honestly say Mario looks better than Marvin tonight. I never thought it would be a day where I could say Mario West looks better than somebody on the court. Bring in Travis Outlaw next season im done waiting on Marvin.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:17 pm
Cannon we will not discuss that draft. Somebody might get hurt talkin about that. I think I wanna cry.
NUNNA YO BIZNEZZ
April 14th, 2010
9:18 pm
JT0,WITH 6 POINTS/7 ASSISTS/3 TURNOVERS IN 24 MINUTES…
HE MIGHT BE A LIL TIRED..BUT,I AS ONE THINK THAT EVEN WITH HIS NOT TOO POLISHED PLAY TONITE,THAT HE IS STILL DECENT ENOUGH TO GET MORE TIME ON THE COURT…
AND,IF HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE TIME EARLIER DURING THE SEASON TO PLAY,HE WOULD LOOK A LOT BETTER AND WOULD BE A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE ON THE FLOOR
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:18 pm
The strange thing about Teague is that both my impression and the impression of most scouting reports was that he was a much better scorer than point guard coming into the league. This year he has proven the opposite — his scoring, both when it comes to outside shooting and finishing at the rim, needs a lot of work, while his ability to play point guard, particularly in transition, is pretty good for a rookie.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:18 pm
just look at all the scrubs taken ahead of Monta Ellis too, including “The Sniper” Salim Stoudamire
Sautee
April 14th, 2010
9:18 pm
I want to know just HOW J.J.M. knows what hyena burps smell like?
OR Varejao’s hair?
As my daughter would say: “eeuuwwwww”
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
9:19 pm
cp ,
Right you are. Funny, Mike Woodson was quoted saying something similar to that a couple of nights ago. Something to the affect that the bulk of Teague’s mistakes had to do with other guys not being ready for his passes. Joe and Zaza have been guilty of it. One thing is for certain though. When Teague is in the game with them and Jamal or JJ isn’t dominating the ball, they get fed.
cp
April 14th, 2010
9:19 pm
terrell honestly I dont know. The funny thing about it is he seems to go out farther and farther as if he has range.
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
9:21 pm
Nunna Yo Biznezz ,
I agree with that, but I’m not stressin’ it anymore. Next year is his time. He needs to work on any shot he takes from the floor and keep going to the basket. Dude could run a pick and roll, I’m quite certain. And he’s quick enough to get to the basket just about when he wants to.
I think he’ll work hard on his shot over the summer. I don’t see him slacking off.
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
9:22 pm
LOL@ Sautee …
Phone is dead as a doorknob, by the way. Have to charge it…
cp
April 14th, 2010
9:22 pm
Big Ray, ZaZa for some reason tonight is actually converting on Teagues passes while Joe Smith continues to clank those jumpers he hasn’t hit all season. But we both agree, the rook gets the ball to this teammates. He had a beautiful pass in the open court to Mo tonight.
Teague this summer lock yourself in a gym and work on that jumper and that floater. If he improves both the kid will be a problem.
LouFan
April 14th, 2010
9:23 pm
After this game so far I am going have to bow in defeat about Marvin. I thought it was because of the amount of touches. No, it is because he sucks. Start Mo Evans in the playoffs.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:24 pm
lol@Sautee
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:24 pm
Did Mario West reach that milestone yet??? He had like 7 in the first quarter didnt he???
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
9:27 pm
Still laughing at J.J.M. …
The concept alone is just killing me
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:28 pm
You really have to commend James Verrett for that report, as if this game is serious.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:28 pm
Wow that heat game looks like it’s terrible
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:28 pm
Did ya’ll see the Bucks fan LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:29 pm
LMAO@Venom
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
9:29 pm
cp ,
Yep. And I have no reason to believe he won’t do it. He knows what he has to do to get better. I’m sure both the coaching staff and his teammates have made it clear.
I have every reason to believe that he will come back next season shooting much better. In the meantime, he does get his teammates involved and has been learning to play more disciplined defense, instead of relying on his quickness/athleticism.
I still like to watch him run with somebody in the open court and try for the blocked shot. I LOVE that ish…
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:29 pm
lol venom what happen?
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:29 pm
I didn’t know the Archbishop Don Magic Juan was a Bucks fan…
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:29 pm
I thought that buck fans was one of those “Travis Porter” dudes
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
9:29 pm
Mario has all kind of scoring moves…LOL
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:30 pm
… and it looks like he lost some weight too.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:30 pm
Teague postered
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:30 pm
lmao@teague just give up
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:31 pm
There was a Bucks fan in the the stands and he had the jersey on with the hat and some sunglasses on while eating fries tryin to look cool lol.
WTF is he even doin the arena lol
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:31 pm
“The funny thing about it is he seems to go out farther and farther as if he has range.”
This is the real problem. At least over the last month, nearly all of his jumpers have been not only out of his range but out of the range of pretty much every big man not named Dirk Nowitzki. I don’t know what the hell is going through his head — if he just comes two feet closer to the hoop he’ll be fine.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:32 pm
lmao@venom
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:33 pm
And just as I say that, Joe Smith makes two of those.
Freshmaker
April 14th, 2010
9:34 pm
Dam JT0 gonna have 20 assists by the end of the night!
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:34 pm
Joe Smith feeling like he’s back in the 90s with Golden State again averaging 18+
O'Brien
April 14th, 2010
9:34 pm
cp,
Watching Marvin with these guys just continues to frustrate me. Because he still does not stand out among these guys. And it hurts everytime I think about the fact that we have him for 4 more years, at approximately $7.5 mil per year.
Jeff Teague with a double double so far. 10 pts, 10 assists.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:34 pm
By the way, Teague has his double-double.
cp
April 14th, 2010
9:35 pm
Joe finally hits some jumpers. Teague with 10 dimes alread. Also playing good d on West well other than that dunk lol
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:35 pm
Teague has 12 pts 10 asts
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
9:35 pm
Teague is taking over….
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:35 pm
breaking news josh smith and lebron will have a dunk off after the game
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:35 pm
Teague is looking good.
Reggie
April 14th, 2010
9:35 pm
Funniest commentating all year, right there. ‘Nique goes on and on about how crazy Cleveland was to run at Mario for his jumpshot and Rathburn says, ” I’m…not quite sure…..Cleveland’s scouting report……goes…..that…..deep.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:35 pm
I see the teague hater Northcyde is nowhere to be found.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:36 pm
loll
BONE
April 14th, 2010
9:36 pm
JEFF TEAUGE HATERRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
falcons pick spoon
April 14th, 2010
9:36 pm
What’s all this talk about wanting to play the Heat beacause of ticket sales? Bottom line is D Wade can take over a game at anytime and you wouldn’t want to chance it, especially when they have won 3 out of 4 this year and took you to 7 games in the postseason last year. I would rather play the Bucks and have a possible sweep maybe the Bucks take one if they’re lucky. Let the Celtics deal with Wade. And if the Heat tank tonight against the Nets, that’ll give Atlanta more motivation to beat them anyway. I’m just saying, the Hawks have a better matchup against the Bogut-less Bucks. Get your sweep and rest up for the second round.
Wabe
April 14th, 2010
9:37 pm
I don’t want to hear the “look who he’s playing against” BS, because JT0 is ballin.
12 points; 10 assists
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:37 pm
Scouting report on Mario West = if he’s in the game, its out of reach, either in our favor or the hawks.
Wabe
April 14th, 2010
9:37 pm
Nothing but a bunch of hatin toddlers here.
cp
April 14th, 2010
9:37 pm
O’Brien I have given up on Marvin. Im on the bring in Travis Outlaw next summer bandwagon. I have seen enough of Marvin. He should put up 30 tonight yet Mario West looks like more of a player than him. Its only so long you can say a guy has potential.
Southeastcyde
April 14th, 2010
9:38 pm
Teague is the M.V.S. of this game (Most Valuable Scrub)
Sautee
April 14th, 2010
9:38 pm
Teague with 12 points and 10 assists in 27 minutes.
Bibby’s season avg.?
9.1 points, 3.9 assists in 27.4 minutes.
The kid should have been playing more. I can NOT believe he would have cost us any games. And he’s playing good d on West.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:38 pm
Picture of Northcyde found
http://media.photobucket.com/image/fat%20nerd/Smashingions/nerd.jpg
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
9:39 pm
12 points, 10 assists, up to 50% shooting.
I wonder if that could be considered “taking charge” or “sparking the game”.
Call it garbage time if you wish, what I know is that our bench is beating their bench. Last I looked, the Cavs didn’t exactly have a sorry bench…
Wabe
April 14th, 2010
9:39 pm
It’s not as if he’s being checked by a bunch of bums. Cleveland has guys out on the floor that tend to play meaningful minutes for them.
Props to the kid.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:39 pm
Teague again
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:39 pm
Another great drive by Teague.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:39 pm
damn teague
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
9:39 pm
Bibby is looking worry as he watch Teague….
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
9:40 pm
BRICKS!
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
9:40 pm
The Duck was floating on air…
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:40 pm
I am SHOCKED that Marvin didn’t blow that dunk.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:40 pm
worst showtime dunk ever Marvin Williams
BONE
April 14th, 2010
9:40 pm
JEFF SAID SUCK HIS D1CC
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:40 pm
lmaooooo@marvin stiff lookin dunk
BONE
April 14th, 2010
9:40 pm
MARVIN IS AZZ
Blast
April 14th, 2010
9:41 pm
Look at Marvin trying to get on ESPN highlights for the first time ever!
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:41 pm
Where are the Teague haters?????????????????????
Picture of Northcyde found
http://media.photobucket.com/image/fat%20nerd/Smashingions/nerd.jpg
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:41 pm
Assuming it remains the same, I wonder if Marvin’s performance in this game will make Woodson more weary of him. He’s not standing out from these guys one bit, and not only is it bench vs. bench, there’s guys who sit behind the bench getting minutes.
Sleepy
April 14th, 2010
9:41 pm
lol Marvin checked the blog during the timeout and saw that Outlaw comment ? CP is off the xmas card list
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
9:41 pm
Damn, Teague goes from sitting on the bench to demanding a double team when he touches the ball…. Play the rookie Woody….
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
9:41 pm
Teague with 12 points and 10 assists in 27 minutes.
Bibby’s season avg.?
9.1 points, 3.9 assists in 27.4 minutes.
The kid should have been playing more. I can NOT believe he would have cost us any games. And he’s playing good d on West.
Co-sign…
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:42 pm
I’m not reading too much into this game, but it is interesting that the Cavs’ highly touted bench can’t keep up with the Hawks’ bench.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:42 pm
nice info@big ray but all scrubs are playing lol
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:42 pm
Picture of Northcyde found.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/fat%20nerd/Smashingions/nerd.jpg
Sleepy
April 14th, 2010
9:43 pm
I dont know why everyone is looking for northcyde for . This isnt the game you can or even should be wanting to defend Teague with . Hes doing what everyone would expect a 1st rd pick to do if he gets minutes in the extended garbage time of a game in the last week of the season . However Marvin is not ………
jay dubu
April 14th, 2010
9:44 pm
As Rick Flair would say, “In order to be the man, you have to beat the man!”, or “In order to be the best, you have to beat the best”. If the Hawks want to be be at the top, they should take on all comers…no need to try and look for matchups.
They should have won 60 games this season anyway. They gave away games to Chicago, Orlando, Dallas, Golden State, NY Knicks, Detroit, & Toronto. There were others that should have been won, but you have to figure, you’re going to lose one of two of the winnable games.
O'Brien
April 14th, 2010
9:45 pm
So Teague plays 27 minutes, and seems to be improving. Imagine that.
Even Woody said Teague wont have to worry about playing his game or making mistakes. And that goes a long way for a young rookie PG.
But people wil say that if Teague played like that all year, he would have gotten more minutes. And not accept the possibility that its hard to play that way when you only receive 9 mpg, and its a very inconsistent 9 mpg, and when you make a mistake, you get pulled.
In related news, Mario West has a +20 rating for tonight. WOW
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
9:45 pm
J.J.M,
Then shouldnt Teague be scrubbing since he’s the only rookie on the court?
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:45 pm
Marvin u are complete garbage
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
9:46 pm
Truth Serum ,
Is it Horford you take issue with, or Sund? If it’s Sund, I understand.
By the way, even Dwight Howard doesn’t get two steals for every turnover he commits…
Also, we don’t have that much money sunk into our PF-converted to-C. As I recall, it’s Joe Johnson that folks are saying we have to commit max money to this summer. I’m wondering how we’ll afford a real center that’s better than Horford after we do that…
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:46 pm
im just saying with lebron and them playing i doubt teague status would be this good…just sayin
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:46 pm
lol@nique
Southeastcyde
April 14th, 2010
9:46 pm
Hey BONE, did you suck on the bone or what?
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
9:46 pm
Super Mario….
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:46 pm
LOL @ new jersey. Nique and Bob clowning them
Damn Mario
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:47 pm
lol I knew it was comin
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:47 pm
Damn Mario!
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:47 pm
lamo like mac said mario wants to dunk
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
9:47 pm
finially got that one out of his system…
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
9:47 pm
Its a dunk fest for the Hawks… Lebron aint dancing now..
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:47 pm
Even bobsaid he needs mins
Taylor
April 14th, 2010
9:48 pm
Might be a bunch of scrubs out there but at least Hawks bringing out the dunkd
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
9:48 pm
VenomSpitter ,
I saw that photo. Dang, that was just wrong …
Blast
April 14th, 2010
9:48 pm
This is the ‘Rook’s coming out party!
LouFan
April 14th, 2010
9:48 pm
Dang!!!!!! Loving the dunk show!!!
Mel
April 14th, 2010
9:49 pm
in other news, miami is up 64-51 going into the 4th
teague can play
April 14th, 2010
9:49 pm
where is northcyde and ree roe? they sure is quiet with hawks beatin cavs and teague ballin against delonte west
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:50 pm
Teague with 16 pts 10 ast
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
9:50 pm
*finally
Bob seems to agree with those of us who think the kid could use more minutes.. i mean, thats assuming he’s apart of our future plans…
guess he thinks he’s a “baller”…
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
9:50 pm
Heat 64 – N.J. – 51 after 3 qtrs.. . .
If Miami is tanking it, they aren’t doing a good job . . . so much for that theory.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:51 pm
Northcyde and Ree Roe are probably trying to find a way to say teague sucks.
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
9:51 pm
I knew Mario would get himself one sooner or later. Is that his career high in points?
We can keep calling this a scrub game, but a win is a win, and it is nice to see our reserves out there playing fairly well instead of looking extremely lost.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:51 pm
Jamal is a stand up guy.
cp
April 14th, 2010
9:51 pm
Teague is quick as hell. Dude tipped the ball and got down the court for the dunk.
Sleepy lol im sorry but I’m done with waiting on Marvins potential. He can take me off his x mas list as long as we get Travis Outlaw in here.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:51 pm
boston getting killed
ree roe
April 14th, 2010
9:52 pm
Teague still sucks . . .
REEtarded ROE !!
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
9:52 pm
Jamal may have a career in politics after basketball. That’s a smooth fella…
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
9:52 pm
Collins shot a 3????????
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:52 pm
Was that Jason Collins taking a 3?
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:52 pm
Our bench is playing good.
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
9:53 pm
Woody may grow his eye brows back after the Collins 3pt attempt…LOL
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
9:53 pm
where is northcyde and ree roe? they sure is quiet with hawks beatin cavs and teague ballin against delonte west
Heh….
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
9:54 pm
“If Teague is playing like he’s at Wake Forest, I don’t know what the Cavs are playing like at this foul line…” — Bob
Georgia Tech?
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:54 pm
anybody got xbox live?
Blast
April 14th, 2010
9:54 pm
Rathburn just echoed what I said in the preseason. Jamal Crawford is the most important acquisition in the off season for any team, bar non.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:54 pm
Punch big Z in the face
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
9:54 pm
LOL!
Now I know that was not the real Ree Roe.
O'Brien
April 14th, 2010
9:54 pm
You can’t put too much into this game, but…Our bench has outplayed the Cavs bench.
Maybe the Cavs bench shut it down because they know it doesnt matter, while our bench know that they dont get much PT, so they have to make the most of it.
Either way, our bench does not look that bad.
The most important thing to me, is Teague’s potential should be obvious. He needs to work on his shots, and with consistent PT, he will force Woody to play him more.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:55 pm
lmao im sorry…but it sounds like nique and rathbun are KILLING these scrubs
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
9:55 pm
lmao@joe johnson nose
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
9:55 pm
Delonte West is going to see Teague is his sleep tonight…
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
9:55 pm
lol@”looks like mario west has a chance to break double figure tonight”
“….first time since Georgia Tech”
“…..been along time …tell ya that”
(-snickering on the bench)
Ken Strickland
April 14th, 2010
9:56 pm
I realize both teams are using mostly backup players, but you see the production you can get from Teague when he (1)gets a chance to play extended mins, (2) knows he doesn’t have to look over his shoulder everytime he makes a mistake and (3) gains confidence. If only Woodson could have put his ignorant bias against young PG’s in his back pocket and given Teague the mins, opportunities and room to make mistakes and grow.
This is what I mean when I say some of Woodson’s coaching philosophies and ideas have held this team back, as well as some of its players.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:56 pm
Derrick Rose is gonna torch the cavs
Sautee
April 14th, 2010
9:57 pm
Truth-serum said:
“Horford has about peaked and did not improve much over the last season or for that matter the season before. ”
LOL, I guess that’s why the coaches chose him as the second best center to Dwight Howard in the East.
Well, if you are going to peak early and level off, at least it should be at an All-Star level.
LMAO!
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
9:57 pm
Could it be that maybe a rookie pg is this aggressive in a game that does not feature the team’s top 3 scorers in it?
I wonder how much Woody would appreciate Teague taking more shots (whether he was hitting them or not) if Joe, Jamal, and/or Josh were in the game? I mean, for a while there even Bibby wasn’t taking many shots before Woody smacked him in the butt and told him to start shooting again, rather than let Joe and Jamal do it all.
cp
April 14th, 2010
9:58 pm
People can call this a scrub game as much as they like but Jamison played and he is a starter, Parker is a starter, Hickson is a starter, Delonte plays big minutes for them, Jawad Williams was in the rotation and etc. Cleveland has played most of their main guys while the Hawks haven’t.
teagued
April 14th, 2010
9:59 pm
my azzhole hurts
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
9:59 pm
The Nets can’t even beat the Heat 3rd string team…
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
9:59 pm
Teague deserved at least 18 (consistent) mins a game this season
teagued
April 14th, 2010
9:59 pm
stfu teauge sucks yall are c0ck riders
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
10:01 pm
did notice that@cp
It just goes to show you how much the other Cavs players that are sitting out this one mean to them..
Lebron, Refs, etc.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:01 pm
uh oh the nets coming back
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:01 pm
CP,
You forgot about Big Z.
Blast
April 14th, 2010
10:02 pm
Bob, don’t worry about keeping us posted about the playoff picture. We keeping watch on our own!
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
10:02 pm
Teague 18 pts 12 ast
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:02 pm
Lebron and Mo Williams has left the Cavs bench. Those chumps couldnt stand to watch this beat down any longer. Nor did they want to shake hands after the game. Punks…
Nacho
April 14th, 2010
10:03 pm
I did not realize that a point guard could rack up so many assist! Wow!
Teague can take the Hawks to a new level. We need a backup center and a SF shooter and our team can fly.
Point Guard, what an intersting concept.
Go Teague.
BONE
April 14th, 2010
10:03 pm
LOL WE ACTAUALLY HAVE A BENCH……???? WISH I CLDVE SEEN IT MORE DURING THE YEAR FIRE WOODY
Sleepy
April 14th, 2010
10:04 pm
Teague didnt deserve 18 min . Anyone who tries to use this game to argue for Teague is no better than Northcyde arguing that a bad performance would justify the opposite.
Lacsho
April 14th, 2010
10:05 pm
Bottom line Teague should start next year!!!!
N-Trigue
April 14th, 2010
10:05 pm
Teague should be starting he would be way further along if wouldve been playing! And have you all every seen bibby giving Teague advice??? Nope!!!
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:05 pm
Cavs guards cant advance the ball past half court against Teague and Mario quick hands….
O'Brien
April 14th, 2010
10:05 pm
I know we’re playing against scrubs, but did anyone notice how BETTER our defense looks without all that switching?
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
10:05 pm
LOL@ Sautee
Yeah, the whole all-star thing was obviously a conspiracy. Remember what Doc Rivers said about Horford when asked if he was a center or power forward? “I don’t know what he is, but he’s a heck of a player, a beast.”
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:06 pm
heat bout to choke
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
10:08 pm
Teague ballin. Bibby is seeing his starting job slip away lol
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
10:08 pm
No worries with Horford – how many true dominant centers are left anyway that give Horford trouble?
D. Howard, Shaq (used to be dominant), Duncan (getting old) Yao, Bynum, Bogut (maybe)
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:09 pm
Mario enforcing the no layup rule in the paint..
Ree Roe
April 14th, 2010
10:09 pm
Even tho I’m unable to see the game live Im readin the boxscore & the Rook is hoopin somethin serious! I still remain a huge critic of his, but I’m glad to see him have some success. How many home wins in a row will this be for us?
-REElease the Roe!!!
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
10:09 pm
the heat don’t wanna win
Sautee
April 14th, 2010
10:09 pm
Truth-serum,
You say that if we had one of the top 7 centers, we’d be in the hunt.
Other than Howard, who are those other 6 centers you think are better than Horford?
Seriously, I’m curious who you think we’d be better with.
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
10:09 pm
“And have you all every seen bibby giving Teague advice”?
Haven’t been to too many Hawks practices – have you?
Sleepy
April 14th, 2010
10:10 pm
@Truth with Crawford based on how our starters played this year we are not getting 4th but are fighting with Charlotte and the Bucks duking it out in the 5th 6th 7th range. Our starting 5 has regressed as a unit the addition of Crawford has actually hidden that as people automatically place him as a 6th starter .
Blast
April 14th, 2010
10:11 pm
At worst next season, Teague should get as many minutes as Bibby, win or lose.
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:11 pm
Im the Heat and Nets now. Can you a major tank job the Heat are trying to do in the 4th. They were up 13 now up 3 with 2:46 mins left.
Mel
April 14th, 2010
10:11 pm
Heat about to choke 73-70 under 4 mins
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 14th, 2010
10:11 pm
Bobcats over ORL in the 1st rd.
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:12 pm
I’m watching the Heat and Nets now. Can you say a major tank job the Heat are trying to do in the 4th. They were up 13 now up 3 with 2:46 mins left.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:12 pm
I guess the heat wants to play us
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:15 pm
lol somebody yelled “shoot it jeff”
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
10:15 pm
I don’t get it – why would the Heat want to tank the game and play Atlanta? Makes no sense . . .
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:16 pm
lmaooooooooooo@big z
Nacho
April 14th, 2010
10:16 pm
If our 2nd unit (even with out JC) can out play the might bench of Cleveland, perhaps we have under utilized our bench throughout the year.
This is nice to see.
Mel
April 14th, 2010
10:16 pm
Hey Melvin,
where you from?
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
10:17 pm
Truth Serum ,
Well, we shall see what happens. Yeah, we could have gone a different way with Flip vs. Crawford. I think the deal was there though, so Sund took it. Seriously, offloading Acie and Speedy for a guy who gets you 18ppg off the bench? Hard to beat.
I wanted us to sign Rasheed Wallace early on. Now I’m glad Sund didn’t do it. Dude is 6′11″ and can defend like crazy, but he refuses to do it. Instead of protecting the rim and dunking, he hangs around and shoots 3s.
I think Horford has some appreciative fans like myself and Sautee. The guy came into the league and gets asked to play a different position. He’s actually not a weak defender at all, we disagree there. There is a reason why he doesn’t always protect the rim. It’s called a switching defense. If you put Dwight Howard in the switch defense, which requires that a guy move around and often end up playing against quicker guards and what not, there’s no way he would be able to block as many shots.
In fact, Josh Smith should be blocking 3 shots per game, but he can’t because he has to switch off, too. Josh blocks as many as he does because he will leave the man he is supposed to be guarding and go after somebody else’s shot. At the same time, he lets guys like Troy Murphy, Rashard Lewis, and Michael Beasley shoot jumpers over him all day long. Which hurts worse?
I’m not making excuses, that’s the way Woody has those guys playing defense, and he said out of his own mouth that he does this to protect or hide guys like Bibby and Jamal, who don’t “D” up their man so well. Leave Horford in the paint and he might actually block 2 shots per game and lay some hard fouls. But we can’t do that. Even Detroit didn’t do that, and that’s where the switching defense came from. The difference was, Detroit had 5 guys in the starting lineup who could all guard their own positions, so switching wasn’t a problem. ‘Sheed had Big Ben’s back and Josh has Al’s back.
I know we disagree on Horford’s ability to defend, but I see that he doesn’t defend his position or the rim every night. He has to defend wherever the switch defense takes him. Ask guys around the league if he’s easy to score on. The Celtics absolutely hate him.
I wish we had a prototypical, franchise center, but we don’t. And I don’t know how we’re going to get one without gutting half the roster (and that’s still if a team will go for such a trade).
New Jersey has a franchise cornerstone center in Brook Lopez and a near all-star level point guard in Devin Harris, two of the biggest pieces of the puzzle. It was good for how many wins this year? See what I’m saying…there’s just more to it.
But I’ll say this: Woody’s switch defense was part of a team that has won 52 games (soon to be 53). And Horford’s defense is part of that same team. Can’t have one without the other, can’t have it both ways.
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:17 pm
South Africa – I mean Carolina . . .
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
10:18 pm
tiger woo umm the heat have beat the hawks times thats why
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
10:18 pm
*3 times
Sautee
April 14th, 2010
10:18 pm
Glad to see Teague playing well.
‘Night y’all.
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
10:18 pm
Arroyo blowing it.. he missing purposely…
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
10:18 pm
uh oh it’s tied
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
10:18 pm
Flip Murray was too inconsistent – Crawfors i a big upgrade . . .
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
10:19 pm
tied in MIA..
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:19 pm
Those last two shots by Carlos Arroyo to allow the Nets to tie the game looks suspect…
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
10:19 pm
Means nothing – didn’t we beat Miami in the playoffs last year?
Justin
April 14th, 2010
10:20 pm
The Heat should be investigated by the FBI for blowing a 13 point lead in the 4th quarter against the Nets at home. I hope this fires up the Hawks when we see DWade this weekend.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
10:20 pm
The heat are better and u never know how good Wade will play. We had to beat them in 7 games and they were bad last year
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:21 pm
Heat up 2. Carlos redeem himself…
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
10:21 pm
If the Hawks are worried about avoiding Miami, forget being ready to challenge Cleveland or Orlando.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:21 pm
heat up
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
10:21 pm
cant believe they let 3/9 Arroyo shoot.. and he made it.. Mia up 2… NJ probably goes for the 3…
Justin
April 14th, 2010
10:22 pm
Arroyo accidentally made that one. Ooops!
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
10:22 pm
tiger woo ,
Appreciating all that Flip did for us, I have to say you are right about him. And if people don’t believe it, they can see what he has done for the Bobcats and Bulls this year. Which hasn’t been all that much. Crawford is the big upgrade we knew he was.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:22 pm
the game on nba tv live
Teaged
April 14th, 2010
10:23 pm
NEW JERY 4 THREEEEEEEEEEEE AT THE BUZZER OMG OMG LOOOOOOL OH WELL LOOK 4WARD TO SMASHIN MIAMI THIS WEEKEND
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:23 pm
courtney lee got fouled wow
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
10:24 pm
omg a foul
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:24 pm
makes first
Teaged
April 14th, 2010
10:24 pm
new jersey gon win yall
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:24 pm
makes 2nd
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
10:24 pm
tied..
Ree Roe
April 14th, 2010
10:25 pm
MIA is really tryin to lose.
-REElegated to Roe!!!
Blast
April 14th, 2010
10:25 pm
Have not seen Cavs laughing it off as they have been doing!
BirdDawg
April 14th, 2010
10:26 pm
Wow, Miami really is tanking the game. Who lets THE NETS come back from down 13 points in a home game? They must want the Hawks pretty bad.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:27 pm
wow offense foul
Teaged
April 14th, 2010
10:27 pm
lolololool offnisive!!!!!!!!!!
Mel
April 14th, 2010
10:27 pm
damn game is fixed !
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:28 pm
nets goin for the win
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
10:28 pm
lol @ this job…
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
10:28 pm
the heat gonna lose
Teaged
April 14th, 2010
10:29 pm
OT
Justin
April 14th, 2010
10:29 pm
Teague finishes with 24 and 15 in 48 minutes. Plus 5 boards.
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
10:29 pm
well…
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:29 pm
ov ertime
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
10:29 pm
overtime sigh
Sleepy
April 14th, 2010
10:29 pm
how do you call an offensive foul in a tied game with under 10 seconds left ? WOW
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:30 pm
They may have to investigate Carlos Arroyo after this game. This guy committed an offensive foul before the ball was inbounds in a tied game with 3.6 left. WTF?
cp
April 14th, 2010
10:30 pm
That was a good win. Some bench guys got big minutes and showed they might deserve a few minutes come playoff time. Teague showed the potential a lot of us thought he had in him. He has a huge summer ahead of him. He gets that floater and that j down and he will be a problem.
Justin
April 14th, 2010
10:31 pm
The Heat deserve an overtime game for tanking in the 4th. Now some of their rotation players are having to log extra minutes. I can’t wait to see them in the ATL this weekend.
Mel
April 14th, 2010
10:31 pm
Even if it was a garbage game, impressive showing by Teague… 15 assists — 3 to 1 ast/t.o ratio … hope he earned REAL back up minutes in the playoffs
Ree Roe
April 14th, 2010
10:31 pm
Why are they goin to overtime? Why is MIA playing this poorly?
-fREEd Roe!!!
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
10:31 pm
I guess Arroyo’s not in on the fix -last second blocked shot.
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:32 pm
24pts and 15 ast. Great performance by Teague in his final game of the season b/c you know Woody will not play him in the playoffs.
O'Brien
April 14th, 2010
10:32 pm
Teague would have an extra 5 assists if guys weren;t missing shots. I still think Joe SMith might be a little out of his range on some of his shots.
Which is the same thing with Josh. He takes too many shots that are out of his range.
Ree Roe,
Thanks for stopping by and speaking up.
Teague’s performance does not mean he should be a starter. it just means that he has potential, and brings something different to the table that Bibby does not. Speed, defense, and the ability to get guys easy shots.
And it also suggests that he deserves more consistent PT, which will give him the chance to improve. owever, it also reinforces that he needs to work on his jumper.
jay dubu
April 14th, 2010
10:32 pm
I think tonight play will give the bnch some confidence, and if it comes to the point that Woody has to use them, it’ll make his decision easier.
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
10:33 pm
I’m telling u theres a reason the heat wanna play the hawks. Wade wants revenge for last year. And with the way he gets calls I don’t want any part of that.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
10:33 pm
F-ck Miami. I hope Wade leaves.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
10:34 pm
Here’s the link if you want to watch overtime of the Nets-Heat game.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
10:36 pm
It’s a commonly known fact that benches play better at home than on the road across the board in the NBA, so I don’t put too much stock in individual performances in this game. That said, 25-15-5 is a great line against any NBA opponent. Teague proved that he can play well if he is given quality minutes. Sure he has work to do, but he certainly brings something to the table that will benefit the Hawks both now and in the future.
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:36 pm
Good job the Hawks tonight. Every player except RandMo score double figures….
LouFan
April 14th, 2010
10:37 pm
Mia is pathetic. Throwing a game away. I feel sorry for the fans who wasted their money. I would rather play the old celtics than the young hawks. I hope they win so we can sweep them and shut them up.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:38 pm
heat suck
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:38 pm
Heat nor the Nets wants to win this game….
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:39 pm
smh@the shoot selections
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:40 pm
Lopez is not an All-Star. He was on the bench for the entire 4th. and Nets coach (not smart) decided to start him in the OT and the guy has committed 3 straight turnovers. That may have cost the Nets this game.
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
10:40 pm
24 points and 15 assists. Must have been an accident, because I know Delonte West and Sebastian Telfair wouldn’t let themselves get punked like that.
It’s amazing what can happen if your offense for the eveing does not include pass the ball to Joe, failing that, give it to Jamal, and if Josh takes the rebound and goes on the break himself, just let him go.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:42 pm
smh@the refs get this game over with
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
10:42 pm
Teague’s performance does not mean he should be a starter. it just means that he has potential, and brings something different to the table that Bibby does not. Speed, defense, and the ability to get guys easy shots.
And it also suggests that he deserves more consistent PT, which will give him the chance to improve. owever, it also reinforces that he needs to work on his jumper.
Could not have said that any better. Now I wonder if people can understand the difference between naming the kid a starter automatically, and simply making him the backup pg who gets….oh, I don’t know…maybe 15 mpg?
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:43 pm
wow man this is annoying
808 Rob
April 14th, 2010
10:43 pm
Heat announcers want the heat to lose they get excited when the nets score. they want to see the hawks. Double OT for Nets Heat
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
10:43 pm
OMG this is worse than a braves game
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:44 pm
Double OT in this nightmare of a game. I can understan why the Nets dont want this game to end….LOL
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
10:44 pm
15 assists = aggressively endeavoring to get teammates the ball when and where they can do good things with it.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
10:44 pm
Shavlik Randolph, what a douche bag. What a retarded foul. Double overtime.
Ree Roe
April 14th, 2010
10:44 pm
@ o’Brien, no doubt man. I think people think I hate Teague or think he’s garbage. Honestly I think he does have potential, but I still don’t think he’s ready to play significant minutes for us. I don’t think he’s aggressive enough on offense or assertive enough on D. One game won’t change my mind (even tho I didn’t see this game), but I’m glad he got some action & got a chance to succeed. Wasn’t tonight his first start at home?
-REEticulate it for Roe!!!
Wabe
April 14th, 2010
10:44 pm
I’m not tryin to come at anybody here right now, but it took you guys this long to notice what the kid can do? Just forget about the points and assists and even the turnovers right now. Throw all the stats out of the window.
From a PURE PG PERSPECTIVE, JT0 offers us more today and has offered us more ALL SEASON then Mike Bibby. Bibby’s a seasoned-vet who is no doubt smarter than the rook at this point, but the quickness and ability to penetrate/set up others that JT0 brings to the table instantly makes him a more viable option to run POINT! NOT BRING THE BALL UP AND HAND IT OFF TO JJ/JAMAL.
I know it’s foolish to take this one performance and use it to justify a need for more minutes. But, you’d also be foolish to ignore the kid’s potential. All of the BS arguments that some try to sway others with on this blog (”JT0 would get more PT if he was any good) are proving to be more ignorant with every extra minute JT0 clocks. It’s not the kid’s talent that’s holding him back at this point…
pinoy hawk
April 14th, 2010
10:46 pm
Can the nba sanction the heat for obviously trying to lose a game?!?! d-wade sucks!
Wabe
April 14th, 2010
10:46 pm
Please don’t take the 2nd paragraph of my post and assume that I want JT0 starting over Bibby. I’m not that far-gone.
What I am trying to say is that although some maybe content with letting the kid takeover the reigns in the future, he COULD HAVE PLAYED an important role on this team THIS SEASON!
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
10:47 pm
Heat put Yakhouba Diawara in the game to start double overtime even though he’s been sitting all game.
David Stern should take away their draft pick.
BirdDawg
April 14th, 2010
10:47 pm
This is just sad. The Heat are trying to avoid the Celtics and the Nets are trying not to hurt their draft standing. David Stern should suspend Dwyane Wade for the first round of the playoffs, award the Nets a meritorious 15 wins, and refund all of the fans at this game their money.
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
10:47 pm
Brook Lopez:
3 for 12 from the field in a scrub game, 6 turnovers, 12 points, 7 rebounds.
The brilliant work of a franchise center.
Here’s what’s funny:
Lose this game, and the Nets, with their franchise center and near all-star pg, will have a worse season than the 13-69 season the Hawks had 6 years ago.
L…M…F….A….O !!!!!!!!!!
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:48 pm
how was that a foul?
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:48 pm
Oh my gosh… Lopez with 4 straight turnovers…
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
10:48 pm
If the Heat are trying to lose so bad, how did we get to double overtime?
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
10:48 pm
man the refs suck in this game
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:49 pm
This game is awful…. double OT and neither team has scored 90pts
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
10:50 pm
frenchy for 3… heat up 5..
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
10:50 pm
Diawara banks in a 3. Heat up by 5. This game is atrocious.
Brook Lopez carried my fantasy team’s front court this season, but watching him in this game, I can’t for the life of me figure out how. He looks terrible.
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:51 pm
Heat up 5. ballgame. The Nets need a whole qtr to score 5pts.
BirdDawg
April 14th, 2010
10:52 pm
That three is going to earn Yakhouba Diawara an @$$ whipping from his teammates after the game. lol
O'Brien
April 14th, 2010
10:52 pm
Ree Roe,
I think this was his first start at home. And we know that bench players play better at home.
However, if you had a chance to watch the game, you would see that he was aggressive on offense and defense. And he was a one man fast break. He got guys easy shots (should have probably had 20 assists tonight).
I think the main issue is when he is on the court, he defers to the other guys (which is understandable). How aggressive can he be when Jamal is on the court? And we know the offense is designed for JJ and Crawford to be the main ball handler.
But he showed lots of potential, and I think consistent PT will help him improve faster.
Miami up by 5. It looks we will get the Bucks.
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
10:52 pm
Najeh,
The Nets have 12 wins this season – they are all terrible, obviously.
BirdDawg
April 14th, 2010
10:53 pm
Tiger Woo,
Because the Nets suck and don’t seem very interested in victory either.
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:53 pm
man id ratha watch the braves
Melvin
April 14th, 2010
10:54 pm
Lopez is terrible…. but hey, at least he’s in the top 20 in blockshots for centers.
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
10:54 pm
Ree Roe ,
What is your definition of significant minutes?
Wabe ,
Some of us have seen the potential the kid has, including Mike Woodson and the entire Hawks organization. What I don’t understand is how in one breath a person can say they see the potential, but then also say he shouldn’t play anymore than he does. How exactly does the potential get brought to bear, then?
What I can’t understand is that people just don’t believe that Woody never intended to play the rook anymore than he did because he didn’t want to do it in a pivotal year like this one, sacrificing team goals for the development of one player. I still thought the kid should have played more minutes, but 53 wins has me shut up. Now if Bibby goes down in a heap in the playoffs due to injury and Teague ain’t ready to step in, then we have a valid argument (should have played the kid more). Until then, I have to roll with Woody’s decision.
And it’s a good thing you clarified “increased minutes” over “must start immediately”. I have NEVER seen a bunch of people get the wrong idea so blatantly in my life. Wait, yes I have. Politics….
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
10:56 pm
“Lopez is terrible…. but hey, at least he’s in the top 20 in blockshots for centers.”
J.J.M.
April 14th, 2010
10:56 pm
see the bucks round 1
Najeh Davenpoop
April 14th, 2010
10:56 pm
James Jones for 3. Heat up 7 with 23 seconds left. Looks like the Hawks get the Bucks.
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
10:56 pm
HAWKS V BUCKS
808 Rob
April 14th, 2010
10:57 pm
Hawks-Bucks
Bill
April 14th, 2010
10:57 pm
Looks like we are going to see the Bucks this weekend.
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
10:57 pm
Chris Quinn with a 3 !! I guess he’s not in on the fix?
VenomSpitter
April 14th, 2010
10:57 pm
yes we get the bucks
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
10:58 pm
Looks like all of you conspiracy theorists were wrong after all !!
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
10:59 pm
O’brien ,
Exactly. Let Teague (or any rookie for that matter) start taking shots from JJ and Jamal (or even Josh and Al) and see how quickly his butt gets yanked from the game. Doesn’t matter if those guys are shooting a collective 12 for 60, and we’ve seen games where they were doing just that.
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
11:00 pm
Tiger Woo,
Heh. Chris Quinn wants/needs a job. Tanking can’t get in the way of that, LOL.
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
11:01 pm
Good point Big Ray – LOL !!
Big Ray
April 14th, 2010
11:02 pm
53 wins and we meet the Bucks in the playoffs, first round. Let’s stomp these guys.
Go Hawks!
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
11:04 pm
What ! Chris Quinn is on N.J. now? – I guess he was traded from Miami – that’s too bad.
Teaged
April 14th, 2010
11:05 pm
LOL IM CALLING IT EARLY…………..SWEEEEEEEEEEP
Ken Strickland
April 14th, 2010
11:08 pm
CP-If you’ll remember, Teague had that jumpshot down and working throughout training camp and preseason, but both he and his jumpshot got all but ignore by Woodson when the season started. I believe he was either the Hawks leading or 2nd leading preseason scorer. I can remember Sekou Smith making numerous comments about him having such an outstanding midrange gm and shot. We saw that tonight.
A PG with speed, quickness, penetrating ability and DEF will do more to advance the Hawks than a very limited and inconsistent 3pt shooting PG that does none of those things. Let’s hope Woodson recognizes that during the playoffs and gives Teague more mins, instead of riding Bibby into the ground no matter how he’s performing.
We’ve all started to see a trend where Bibby starts out on fire, then does very little after the 1st quarter. His 2nd half scoring is almost nonexistent, along with his DEF, which makes him a total liability. Replacing him with JCrawford does wonders for our OFF, but it doesn’t improve our DEF significantly. That’s where Teague can make his biggest difference, and Woodson has to get over himself and start realizing that.
How in the hell can a so called DEF minded HC keep relying on his 2 worst DEF guards(Bibby & Crawford), when DEF is needed, while completely ignoring his best on the ball defender(Teague), especially in the 2nd half? Here is an example of the backward though process Woodson often displays.
He waits until the last gm of the season to test his backup rookie PG and see if he can give him anything during the playoffs. Wouldn’t early in the regular season have been a better time to find that out, so he’d have time to work with him on developing his skills and confidence? A$$ backward thinking.
Lacsho
April 14th, 2010
11:09 pm
Rotation set: Woodson has settled on a rotation that includes reserves Crawford, Evans and Zaza Pachulia. Beyond those three, Woodson said the rotation for the playoffs is “up in the air.” Teague, Joe Smith, Jason Collins, and Mario West might play “in certain situations.”
SOME PEOPLE NEVER LEARN. BIBBY WILL GET MURDERED THIS YEAR IN THE PLAYOFFS!!!
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
11:09 pm
SWEEP!
kwooden1
April 14th, 2010
11:10 pm
HAWKS VS. BUCKS!!!
I hope JJ’s thumb is ready for battle because the Bucks aren’t going to lay down! I don’t like predictions so I will just talk in terms of hope and expectation. I hope the HAWKS win in 5, but I expect them to win in 6. I think we’re a mature enough team not take the Buck’s lightly, but also aware that Salmons gives us a lot of problems. I am looking forward to seeing how Horford and Smoove play this series. With Horford being able to knock down jump shots and Smoove attacking inside (with NO back to back games), it should be fun to watch!
But all eyes will be on CRAWFORD!!!
GO HAWKS!!!
Wabe
April 14th, 2010
11:11 pm
I hear ya Big Ray.
I’ve never wanted Woody to jeapordize the team’s chances at getting a W by developing the rook. I just never thought it’d come to that. I just can’t buy that argument after watching our starters blow so many 4th quarter leads. There have been way too many other issues (lack of ball movement, lapses on defense) that have gone unaddressed THAT HAVE jeapordized our chances of winning games. I won’t ever get how people can seriously believe JT0 getting 5-6 extra minutes would.
Like you said though, 53 wins is a hell of an acheivement. I’m willing to wait to see the kid play. I’m just sick of hearing the bogus “he does’t have enough talent to play with the big boys” argument. But as you said, Woody himself has said that he sees JT0 leading this team in the future. So, I guess I gotta take his word for it.
northcyde
April 14th, 2010
11:11 pm
I’ve been on the highway for the last 2 hrs and I saw the boxscore for tonight via my phone. After that, I read through this blog.
LMAO @ the comments.
WOW . . . this is all I was asking for out of Teague. I just wanted to see ONE TIME if this kid could ball or not. Just show me some of the talent that people hyped him up for.
I don’t give a damn who you play against. 24 pts ( 11 – 19 FG ) and 15 assists is DAMN IMPRESSIVE. Condense that down to his usual 7 – 9 minute a game output, and you’re talking about 6 pts – 4 assists. And I’d take that all day if he were able to do that in a short stretch.
It’s funny how people got on me when I asked the dude to give me 14 pts – 7 assists in 22 minutes . . . or 14 pts – 4 assists in that same time frame . . . but try to call me out when he goes HAM like he did tonight.
Now Jeff . . . channel this performance in the playoffs, and play at a HIGH LEVEL in the 2nd quarter when you get into a game. We know you can do it. You’re going to have 6 – 8 minutes to make that initial impact on the game.
Go ahead and go out and DO IT.
No more looking like you’re scared.
No more timid play.
Just go out there and PLAY YOUR GAME.
The “Rook” got baptized tonight. So I now want to see a “born again” Teague come the playoffs. Play with confidence, not with apprehension.
Show me state
April 14th, 2010
11:12 pm
Why does da headline say “With LeBron a spectator, Hawks beat Cavs 99-93″….instead of it being dat…it should read…”Teague sets career highs, as Hawks rout Cavs 99-83″……i’m so tired of hearing about LeBron not playing…our top 5 guys didn’t play either….but Atlanta’s B team routed Cleveland’s B team…plain and simple…Go Hawks!!!!
Zach
April 14th, 2010
11:13 pm
Lascho,
You hold your tongue about Mike Bibby! He is a saint and deserves respect. OUT OF ALL THE STARTERS HE HAS THE MOST PLAYOFF EXPERIENCE. And he a saint, so you direct your criticism for the bucks
Show me state
April 14th, 2010
11:15 pm
But great way to finish da season Hawks….53-29….34-7 home record….4 game winning streak….and ended the 9 game losing streak v.s. Cavs….overall thanks for a great regular season….and let’s do it big in da playoffs…..too bad i don’t stay in Atlanta….i would be at da “Highlight Factory” for some playoff games….Go Hawks!!!
Lacsho
April 14th, 2010
11:16 pm
Zach- I’M JUST SAYIN…… SMH…..LMAO
Zach
April 14th, 2010
11:17 pm
state,
because everyone hates the hawks and they have to justify every cleveland loss with some crap. I’ve seen other game recaps:
“Officials don’t allow Lebron to go to the line 25 times, Cavs lose by 7 (but it really was 1)”
“LeBron eats bad tuna for lunch, cavs lose. ESPN buys out restaurant to prevent service to its superstar”
“Orlando cheats, cavs complain”
its sad.
Zach
April 14th, 2010
11:18 pm
No Lacsho, no no no! Mike Bibby is the reason why we didn’t lose by 50 every game in the Cleveland series last year. I expect no less this year.
Wabe
April 14th, 2010
11:19 pm
Northclyde,
I don’t think you can expect the kid to get right into a game and make have a serious impact on it if he’s not even in the game long enough to settle down. You can’t expect to see consistent numbers from a kid that gets inconsistent minutes.
JT0 did much of his damage tonight in the 2nd half. He was almost at 10 assists at halftime, but he definately got more aggressive looking for his own shot in the 2nd half. As many here have already mentioned, in most cases this season, JT0 hasn’t really had the chance to be as aggressive – simply because the offense is running through JJ/Jamal or some of the frontcourt guys. But tonight, he was able to play aggressive. And once he turned it up a notch, he was pretty impressive(relentless getting to the hoop). He also did a pretty good job staying in front of a much bigger Delonte West.
Zach
April 14th, 2010
11:20 pm
Plus Mike Bibby averages 16 and 5 in the playoffs. What more do you want?
Grandad
April 14th, 2010
11:20 pm
When I 1st saw that Granbad feller, I couldn’t believe what I was sayin’
Then I thought to myself, I’m not dyslexic.
Mad Hatter, you almost got me on that one.
‘Granbad’…now that’s funny.
Stat Man
April 14th, 2010
11:21 pm
Tiger Woo–
You obviously didn’t watch any of the Heat game if you are guessing the fix wasn’t in.
The only problem is that Jersey’s starters are worse than the Heat’s backups.
They (Heat) shot 38% from the floor, jacked up twice as many 3 pointers as usual, committed an obvious charge late in regulation when a basket wins them the game and the Nets scored over half their points on layups and dunks.
To hell with them – glad they had to go longer and have to play double OT – too bad somebody didn’t get hurt – would have been what they deserved.
Anyway, I’m just glad the Hawks weren’t a position like that – I will admit, it’s pretty much a no-win deal, but get real Miami!!!!
kwooden1
April 14th, 2010
11:21 pm
I really wish I saw this game, because it sounds like Teague showed what he can do. I think for the Playoffs, Woody needs to stick with 5-8mins in the first half for Teague but start giving him 4-5 minutes in the 2nd half. (probably at the end of the 3rd) Teague needs to come in the game and concentrate on defense 1st and penetrating 2nd. I suspect that the Bucks will start double teaming Crawford, when he’s on the floor without JJ, so Teague can take advantage by getting in the lane. Woody’s going to ride Bibby hard, so the best we can hope for is he sticks with the plan that got him this far. Hopefully add a few more minutes.
GO HAWKS!!!
JeJe
April 14th, 2010
11:21 pm
. . . and Bibby is overweight – just like I like my men . . .
Wabe
April 14th, 2010
11:21 pm
“play with confidence, not apprehension.”
Ask yourself, why do you think the kid plays timid. Why isn’t he more confident?
Zach
April 14th, 2010
11:22 pm
KS, Big Ray back me up on the bibby thing.
Lacsho
April 14th, 2010
11:23 pm
OK I’M GOING TO BED…….GO HAWKS…….BIBBY MVP……
JeJe
April 14th, 2010
11:24 pm
Stat Man,
Despite all that, the Heat had chances to throw the game if they really wanted to.
Zach
April 14th, 2010
11:24 pm
right on Lacsho….glad to see i’ve converted you
Zach
April 14th, 2010
11:25 pm
JeJe,
I don’t think if you took 5 bloggers on this website we could have thrown that game against the nets.
Lacsho
April 14th, 2010
11:29 pm
awoken suddenly 16-5? NOT IN A HAWKS UNIFORM……falls back to sleep….. I’m so greatful we have MIKE BIBBY………..
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
11:29 pm
Miami reserves wanted to win – it obvious – so much for the “fix” theory.
By the way, the Honorable David Stern would never tolerate teams throwing a game – just like he didn’t tolerate gambling and dressing like a hip-hop star (Iverson).
Zach
April 14th, 2010
11:32 pm
thats his career 16-5 his hawks is 12-4 still not bad!
Stat Man
April 14th, 2010
11:32 pm
Tiger Woo:
Too bad your ‘honorable’ NBA commissioner DID tolerate the Cavs clockkeeper convienently robbing the Hawks earlier this year. How can you explain Stern not replaying the final couple minutes when there was clear video evidence the 24 second shot clock “lost” 10 seconds on a down the stretch Hawks posession in a tight game?
tiger woo
April 14th, 2010
11:37 pm
Stat Man,
How dare you question the commisioner’s integrity! He’s basically a walking saint.
Stat Man
April 14th, 2010
11:38 pm
He’s basically a walking phallus.
bigdave
April 14th, 2010
11:39 pm
“this is all I was asking for out of Teague. I just wanted to see ONE TIME if this kid could ball or not. Just show me some of the talent that people hyped him up for.”
where were you summer league and camp?
i dont think in 48 mins Bibby gives you 11-19 shooting 24 pts 15 assist 5 rebs against the same competition playing along side the likes of Mario West and Joe Smith…
RLP
April 14th, 2010
11:44 pm
Comparing the final regular season records for the Hawks and the former BIG 3 only the Hawks won more games this year than last year. Boston declined the most by winning 12 fewer games this year than last year. I actually think the Heat should be favored to defeat Boston this year in the first round. Boston’s decline should be obvious to all. The one area where they were able to maintain good results was their road record (26-15). I think this reflects the veteran status which gave them the ability to no panic late in the game on the road.
Cleveland won 5 fewer but the team’s personnel changed and I think they should be favored to win the East this year. However I think either the Hawks or the Magic will give them a run for it AND it will not be a big surprise if either were to defeat them in the ECF’s this year.And I will be cheering for either team to do so because until they got Antawn Jamison I was agreeing with Sir Charles that Orlando was the team to win the East. Or maybe my personal prejudice is showing because I do not like LBJ’s game.
Orlando’s final record exactly matches last year’s record. I think it is difficult to judge Orlando because of the exchange of Turkoglu for Carter. Last year I thought Turkoglu was the Magic’s best player. Carter is not an improvement. However, Jameer Nelson is definitely an improvement over Rafer Alston. So it would not surprise me at all if the Magic comes out of the East again.
The Hawks improved by 6 games over last year. They won three more games at home and three more games on the road where there record was 19-22. But the lack of focus on the road is the team’s biggest weakness. At home they matched the Magic’s win total and were only one lost before Cleveland. Had the Hawks matched the Magic’s road record (26-16) then they would have also matched Orlando’s overall record. How many of those blown fourth quarter losses were road games?
If I were to place bets on the East I would bet on the top three seeds plus Miami to win in the fist round. In the second round I would bet on the top two teams to prevail. And I would also take a plunge on the Magic to defeat the Cav’s once again. But as a non betting Hawks fan I think the Hawks have a definite shot to surprise the odds.
Clyde
April 14th, 2010
11:50 pm
FIRE WOODY
Grandad
April 14th, 2010
11:57 pm
Zach:
Bibby – 9.1 pts. & 3.9 assts. [this season/current]
JeJe
April 15th, 2010
12:04 am
Woodson playing Teague 48 min tonight was basically Woody telling Teague: “Look, I don’t use the bench in games that matter. You won’t play in the playoffs more than 4 mpg unless Bibby fouls out in the 1st, so enjoy tonight”
Geoff
April 15th, 2010
12:05 am
congrats to Teague on his first double double, hopefully there’s more to come.
Mel
April 15th, 2010
12:05 am
I just hope Charlotte puts up a fight like we know they can.
Grandad
April 15th, 2010
12:14 am
Zach:
bibby:
*Min – 27.5
*fg% – 41.6 – [not good]
*3 pt. fg% – [real good]
*ft% – 86.1 – [good]
*reb – 2.3
*asst. – 3.9 [below par]
*steals – 0.8 [below par]
*blocks – 0
*t.o. – 1.1 [asst. to t.o. ratio roughly 4 - 1 / good]
*fouls – 2[probably due to loss of quickness/stls to foul ratio/bad]
*9.1 pts. per [bad] **due to Bibby is basically a shooting guard now.
*intangibles – excellent
rusty
April 15th, 2010
12:15 am
teague has what it takes to be a star in this league. shame on woody for not giving him more playing time. he would have improved our record & would have developed more
Grandad
April 15th, 2010
12:16 am
Dadgummit – “Bibby” I gotta get that shift key fixed.
northcyde
April 15th, 2010
12:20 am
Wabe . . confident dudes play confident regardless.
Salim was one of the most confident dudes I’ve ever seen. There was NO FEAR in that cat. He just couldn’t get it done on the NBA level. He didn’t lack confidence in his ability one bit though..
If Teague is a baller, he needs to play with confidence at ALL TIMES.
sam'l
April 15th, 2010
1:14 am
Blast…..we were 0-2 against the Thunder this year, unless we beat them in a meaningless exhibition game
Big Ray…..Collins isn’t injured.
Why do I have to correct everybody…..why isn’t y’all perfect?
(Go Hawks…..but not to Las Vegas)
Ken Strickland
April 15th, 2010
8:51 am
WABE-BIG RAY-how can anyone say there was the remotest possibility of us losing a single gm by giving Teague extended mins and opportunities to develop JTeague during the regular season? It’s not like Bibby was lighting it up offensively or defensively. Please explain to me how we were at risk of losing gms by giving more mins to Teague. Then explain how a so called DEF minded HC shielded us from any unnecessary loses by playing Bibby, a veteran PG that lacked:
(1) speed, quickness and the ability to penetrate and breakdown DEF,
(2) the ability to consistently create easy scoring opportunities for others,
(3 the ability to consistently push the ball on fastbreaks and/or take it all the way to the basket,
(4) the ability to play DEF(his HC felt the need to impliment a gimmick swithching DEF to compensate for his DEF shortcomings),
(5) the ability to adequately compensate for his DEF inadequacies by providing solid, consistent OFF production, like JCrawford does.
Bottomline, Woodson’s approach and philosophy toward handling JTeague guaranteed the team would get nothing more than very limited and inconsistent production and development from him. If anyone thinks it benefited the team more to play Bibby 27.4MPG, and end up getting .08SPG, 3.9APG, 9.1PPG on .416FG%, along with NO DEF, is not being realistic.
Teague managed 1.7APG, .05SPG, and scored 3.2PPG, with a .396 FG% in 10.1 very limited and inconsistent mins. I don’t see any logical justification for Woodson not giving him an additional 7-8 consistent MPG, which would have solidified his development and confidence, plus given us the speed, quickness, penetrating ability and DEF we’ve never gotten from Bibby.
If Woodson is resigned, it’ll be interesting to see if he’ll repeat this yrs philosophy of limiting JTeague’s mins, opportunities and development, while continuing to be stubborn and insist on playing Bibby extended mins and have the team carry him for another yr.
Wabe
April 15th, 2010
1:12 pm
Ken Strickland,
I’m not sure if you misunderstood my post, but here’s what I said:
“I’ve never wanted Woody to jeapordize the team’s chances at getting a W by developing the rook. I just never thought it’d come to that. I just can’t buy that argument after watching our starters blow so many 4th quarter leads.”
I’ve always felt that there were numerous nights where we basically got next to nothing from Bibby. I never thought that letting the rook clock some extra minutes would do anything to hinder our chances of getting a W. That’s the point I was trying to make.
I appreciate every one of those 53 wins. But, it seems that some of the arguments some make here suggest that we would’ve had around 43 wins if we let the rook clock more minutes instead of the 53 we got – WHICH I DON’T BUY.
WilmaFlinstone
April 15th, 2010
2:07 pm
Im glad woody had the sense to give teague a lot of minutes last night. Now woody knows the mistake he made by not giving teague more minutes during the season. Had teague been given more quality minutes and had played a lot throughout the course of the season, Teague would have been the equivalent of Chris Paul and the Hawks problems at point guard would have been resolved.
Ken Strickland
April 16th, 2010
9:36 am
WABE-you certainly got it right, I definitely misread your post, and I apologize for that mistake. I’m actually glad that I did, because there are still fans who think like Woodson when it comes to Bibby. Bibby is a complete liability if he’s not hitting his jumpers, and he’s a DEF liability no matter what.
I don’t buy into his INTANGLES as an excuse for him playing 27.5MPG and giving us limited scoring, assists, no penetration, creativity, or creating easy baskets for others, and absolutely no DEF. It’s just downright stupid to think we can continue to compete with the BIG BOYS with a slow, unathletic PG, with so many limitations on both ends of the court, playing so many mins.
The Orlando Magic’s entire OFF philosophy is based on penetrate and dish, and we’ve been unable to compete against them over the last 3yrs because of our inability to defend against it. And what is Woodson’s counter? He insists on using MBibby, our worst DEF player, to somehow stop JNelson’s penetration, or have JJ, AHorford, Zaza, JSmith or JoSmith try to stop him. This is his solution, rather than taking advantage of the speed, quickness, penetrating ability and DEF skills of ROOKIE PG JTeague, our best on the ball defender. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!!