Cavaliers at Atlanta Hawks: Sitting On It (UPDATE: Marvin to play, other starters to sit)

Cavs coach Mike Brown said today at shooataround that LeBron and Shaq
won’t play tonight. Woody said he hadn’t made up his mind: “Game-time decision.” But chances are Hawks starters won’t play or get only token minutes considering the Hawks can’t improve their playoff seeding and that’s the way Woody approached last season’s finale under similar circumstances.

(EDIT: In pregame, Woody said Marvin would start alongside Teague, Joe Smith, and Zaza.)

The consensus among Hawks players is they’re fine with sitting.

“If anything, it helps after such a long season, Al said.

These two will watch the game tonight. (AP Photo/Mark Duncan)

These two will watch the game tonight. (AP Photo/Mark Duncan)

For Brown, the main motivation behind sitting LeBron and Shaq is to avoid injury. “That had a lot to do with it,” he said.

This will be the fourth healthy scratch in a row for LeBron. Shaq just recently was cleared to return after missing six weeks with a thumb injury.

The Cavs will enter the playoffs with their full lineup of LeBron, Shaq, Mo Williams, Antawn Jamison and Anthony Parker having played together for just three full games. Brown wasn’t ready to say that’s not a worry because his team is so veteran.

“You worry,” Brown said. “As a coach you worry about a lot of things. You hope your worries don’t come true.”

After the shootaround, LeBron joked about whether his Atlanta fans want to see him play. Yeah, they do, and by the way does he feel for fans who bought tickets to games to see him as the main attraction? He shook his head: “I’ve played in every arena this year.”

That’s true, though I doubt it’s much solace for his fans who picked the wrong game to buy tickets. Some advice for those fans: If you want to see a star player on a good team, and his final visit is scheduled within the last week or so, best to catch him the first time he comes to town.

– There’s a feeling among the Hawks that the Heat might not go all out to beat the Nets tonight because Miami would rather face the Hawks than the Celtics. That’s not hard to believe. Heat coach Erik Spoelstra says manipulating the seeding would be “messing with the basketball gods” but, depending on how many lines you want to read between, the Hawks’ suspicions can be confirmed by looking at this Miami Herald story by Izzy:

Jermaine O’Neal, who missed one game and started only five against the Hawks (in the playoffs) last year because of a concussion, said the difference between the Hawks and Celtics is predictability.

“[The Hawks] can put you in a tough situation, especially in Atlanta,” O’Neal said. “They play at another level. But you never really know what to expect with those guys. But with Boston, you know it’s going to be very physical, it’s going to be a grind-out type of a game, every-possession-counts type of a game. So it’s kind of like, pick your poison, really.”

Of course, even if the Heat tanked it would need the Bucks to beat Boston tonight to “secure” the No. 6 seed. That should happen since the Celtics are likely to rest their starters, too, but you never know. Maybe the Bucks want the Hawks, too.

MC

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The Truth

April 14th, 2010
2:14 pm

JeJe

April 14th, 2010
2:17 pm

JeJe

April 14th, 2010
2:20 pm

can’t believe more people don’t call out Bibby for being overweight.

The guy does NOT use his size to his advantage at all on the court.

1) He cannot post up players a la Baron Davis. B.Diddy uses his SIZE to post up SMALLER players. Bibby doesn’t do this
2) Because he is so big, he is too slow and immobile to GUARD other players. Seriously, someone faces him up, takes one dribble, and Bibby looks like the damn Statue of Liberty after the player has taken one dribble –> !@#$ing joke

So can someone tell me why Bibby feels the need to be so big??

GeeMack

April 14th, 2010
2:22 pm

It’s sad when you’re a top team’ but teams don’t respect you as a top team.

What O’neal was really saying is, Boston plays hard every night, even with all the injuries and aging.

The Hawks on the other hand can be beat, because 1 game they play perfect and inspired ball.

The next game they play like an expansion team.

You never know what you will get from those guys.

With that said we think we can beat them.

GeeMack

April 14th, 2010
2:26 pm

JeJe

Just because your a bigger guard doesn’t mean your athletic enough to post up. That’s not Bibby’s game

Melvin

April 14th, 2010
2:26 pm

Bring on DWade. So the Hawks could have their games schedule in the primetime slots. That way we can appeal to a wider audience.

phar71

April 14th, 2010
2:29 pm

Lets go Hawks, Lets go Heat, and lets go Celtics!

I sure we could get by the Bucks in no more than 5 games, the Heat might take us 7, and could beat us.

MSG

April 14th, 2010
2:30 pm

So what O’Neal was saying Miami is where they are because they did not preform this season

Hawk n the Ham

April 14th, 2010
2:35 pm

So, what your saying MC is, bet the house against the Heat tonight.

I’m calling my bookie now, thanks for the ‘insider’ info!!!!

The Truth

April 14th, 2010
2:35 pm

My message to Miami if they decide to manipulate the outcome of that game: Be careful what you wish for; THE STUNT COULD BACKFIRE The Hawk players would consider that a total disrespect of their accomplishment. They could use the action to feed their motivation especially since that series starts in the ATL.

Maxx

April 14th, 2010
2:39 pm

Of course we would rather see the Bogut-less Bucks instead of the Heat, simply because Dwayne Wade has the ability to take over a game, and we all saw him single-handedly win a the NBA Finals a few years ago. Regardless, I still think we would dominate the Heat in a 7 game series, and I don’t think it would go down to game 7 this year. But really it all comes down to whether we can beat the Magic and Cavs in a 7 game series, which would take a miracle considering we don’t have a true 7ft Center to battle against D Howard and Shaq/Z. I think it all really comes down to Marvin and our bench. If Marvin shows up and Crawford shows out (dropping 50), and Mo/Teague/ZaZa play like they have been lately, I think we have a legitimate chance. Use Mario West as a perimeter Defensive specialist. Use Jason Collins to bang with Shaq/Z and Howard. Get Joe Smith involved. The Hawks can do this

JeJe

April 14th, 2010
2:39 pm

“That’s not Bibby’s game”

So what is Bibby’s game? Shooting 3’s, most of which don’t go in, and not playing defense or taking anyone off the dribble?

JeJe

April 14th, 2010
2:40 pm

*Most of which as in his 3 pt shooting is down this year

JeJe

April 14th, 2010
2:41 pm

“They could use the action to feed their motivation especially since that series starts in the ATL.”

The Hawks would play hard for 2 quarters then let the Heat come back, and then grind it out. The Hawks don’t dominate teams anymore. Every game we play we are winning, let the other team back, and the game comes down to the last 3 possessions

BONE

April 14th, 2010
2:41 pm

SHAQ IS DUMB…………LOL ITS FUNNY BECAUSE BOSTON PLAYS HARD EVERY NIGHT AND STILL GETS THAT AZZ BEAT. ATLEAST THE HAWKS ARE IN A PLACE WHERE YOU KNO THEYRE POTENTIAL AND WHAT THEY CAN DO TO YOU IF THEY WANT, BOSTON ON THE OTHER HAND …. WELL…YOU GET WHAT YOU GET, A BUNG OF OLD GUYS WHO HAVE TOPPED OUT, AND THAT CANT B SAID FOR ANY OF THE HAWKS 8 PLAYER ROTATION…MAYBE BIBBY THO

Section 303

April 14th, 2010
2:50 pm

I do not think Miami will tank tonight just to face the Hawks. Really, it doesn’t matter. Heat are not good enough to beat either the Celtics or Hawks.

Did anyone else hear Barkley ripping on the C’s last night? He said the only way they could win a series would be to play a team in the East NOT in the playoffs. Don’t know if I agree, but love to see the Celtics get cut on.

BONE

April 14th, 2010
2:54 pm

IF THE CELTICS WERE PLAYING THE BOBCATS THEY MIGHT GET SWEPT LMAOOOOOOOO

MannyT

April 14th, 2010
2:59 pm

So tonight’s game is really the Happy Days Invitational with everyone getting the SIT ON IT message from the coaches.

I’m sure the financial arm of the Atlanta Spirit is real happy with this scheduling. Cavs come to town and you have no chance to fill the arena. How lucky :roll:

If Miami does roll over tonight, that might be good for ticket sales in the first round. How many folks would come to see Wade in the playoffs? Now ask that same question about John Salmons? It’s not disrespect, it’s lack of a marquee name to sell tickets.

BWAF

Hawk n the Ham

April 14th, 2010
3:00 pm

Is the all caps necessary? Really?

Justin

April 14th, 2010
3:18 pm

I really wanted to see the Hawks play the Bucks in round one, but then started thinking about it more. That would be a boring series. I would rather see the Hawks play D-Wade and the Heaters. We can beat them, so there’s no reason to be afraid. And if the Hawks throw this game to the Nets tonight just so they can get the Hawks, I’m sure that will add some motivation to the Hawks and raise the intensity of the series.

Justin

April 14th, 2010
3:21 pm

Correction- If the “Heat throw this game to the Nets”

THE TONE

April 14th, 2010
3:21 pm

the hawks will lose to the heat in 5 or 6 games , you know it I know it and the heat know it , how ugly will it be then , will the coach be on the hot seat then

King Tom

April 14th, 2010
3:24 pm

Who cares? The Hawks will never a championship with those bum leaders (Mike Woodson and Joe Johnson).

Dshep

April 14th, 2010
3:26 pm

The only thing holding this team back is Mike Woodson. He is the worst coach in the NBA!! I get so sick of hearing these “so called” anylist talk about this team’s year by year improvement. It comes down to the fact that Billy Knight was RIGHT in bringing Joe Johnson in here and he was right in trying to get rid of Mike Woodson. Now, I will agree Marvin has hurt us because Chris Paul would make this team incredible! ( Big whoops on Knight’s part) If we are lucky enough to make it to the 2nd round, the Magic will show us the door in 4! Why? Because Mike Woodson has no idea how to make adjustments. Say bye bye to Joe as well because he is no fool and wants to win a Championship and knows that will not happen with Woody at the helm.

Dshep

April 14th, 2010
3:26 pm

Tom is stupid if he think Joe is a problem!!!!!!!

THE TONE

April 14th, 2010
3:27 pm

not so sure Joe wants a championship if he is considering going to the knicks , but they do always beat the hawks .

Nacho

April 14th, 2010
3:35 pm

Bibby can’t post up. Bibby can’t dribble. Bibby can’t penetrate. Bibby can not create. Bibby CAN shoot.

Sounds like a role player and not a starter.

Dshep

April 14th, 2010
3:35 pm

In the NBA, you can get good quick if you have a bunch of Dough!!!!!! And The Kncks do!!!

Nacho

April 14th, 2010
3:35 pm

A very good role player.

Westurd

April 14th, 2010
3:49 pm

You have to get through all the teams to win it all so who cares what order the Hawks mow em down!

Grandad

April 14th, 2010
3:54 pm

Tiger Woods:

Tough Love…read Dr. James Dobson [I abhore his politics] so I’m talking about his books on parenting. “Dare to Discipline” Excellent!
Dr. John Rosemond another. However, nowhere is bullying mentioned as
an accepted method. Try reading the works of DR.Elizabeth Kubler-Ross.
As for practical experience, I’ve worked with countless younsters
and if you insist on putting a label on them, yes, African American youth. However I detest having to stereotype because a young man is just that a young man. Also, I am well aware of some of the difficulties young men face; black, white, latino, pink just being an adolescent makes life tough. But you throw in a single parent home, a dead beat dad, poverty, moving when the rent comes due, wait a minute…that was me. Now they have to deal with gangs, drugs,
teenage pregnancy, AIDS, & grown-ups that don’t provide stability.
Nah…I’m old an out of touch with reality.
Yeah that’s what they need bullying.
I have, am still, and will continue to mentor the youth of our society. That is my ministry!
There are Plenty of African American moms with which I could use as a reference were it necessary.
This conversation ceases now.

post script: I left you an article on the last blog.
Please & with all sincerity have a nice day.

cory

April 14th, 2010
4:05 pm

wow. there are a lot of haters here. The Hawks are a very good team that doesnt always show up to play. They will definitely step their game up whether they play the Heat or Bucks. They will get out of the 1st round in 5. They are perfectly capable of beating the Magic or Cavs in the 2nd round. They have been winning all the games against both teams & had some cold spots in the games, particularly towards the end of the 4th that lost them the game. It will be a different story in the playoffs. Marvin will also step up to do more on the offensive end. The Hawks will make it to the Conference Finals against the Magic. Quote me

cory

April 14th, 2010
4:06 pm

Grandad, We arent talking about Tiger, but your words are appreciated lol

Grandad

April 14th, 2010
4:16 pm

cory:

I was responding to a post on a previous blog.
The young fella’s handle was “Tiger Woods”.

jg

April 14th, 2010
4:16 pm

all of you bibby bashers need to give it up. he’s the only guy we have that keeps this bunch together. his play has improved considerably over the past month too. please be careful what you wish for–look at the games he’s been out–we look clueless. yes we could start teague but he’s not yet ready, we could start joe and jamal together that might work, joe and mo and a few other combos but at the end of the day–this team won 52 games–truthfully should have won 60. we have a really good team the way it is…it’s playoff time now–whoever gets hot can and will win the east.

true the favorites have to be the cavs and the magic–but if the hawks crank it up a notch or two we can win the eastern conference. we have the talent!!!!

as far as tonight goes–bucks or heat–obviously i would rather face the bucks. but sometimes we do play down to our competition so whoever we end up with let’s take care of the business at hand and worry about round 2’s opponent when we get there. go hawks it’s put up or shut now boys….everybody’s 0-0.

SWAT Native

April 14th, 2010
4:18 pm

It’s amazing how perspectives can vary. I was just reading the Buck’s blog, and it says that they want no part of the Hawks in the playoffs (especially without Bogut) because of their overall length (”they’re like an AAU team”), their switching defense, their ability of their bigs to cover a guard when they do switch, Smoove’s ability to recover and block shots when you finally beat a switch, can’t stop Joe, the Hawks are harder to hate because they’re not very “villainy”, etc. Meanwhile, the Heat are supposed to prefer the Hawks.

O'Brien

April 14th, 2010
4:22 pm

If you’re Miami, why would you want Boston.

Miami went 0-3 against Boston (although all 3 games were close), and 3-1 against the Hawks. Plus they took the Hawks to game 7 last year. I think Miami would prefer ATL.

Manny T mentioned this on another blog. Who would the ASG like to see the Hawks play? Bucks or Heat? Heat and DWade bring extra revenue, more fans, prime time games etc, which is good for marketing.

From espn.com,

“Boston Celtics coach Doc Rivers is leaning toward leaving the team after this season, sources told the Boston Herald, but he told the newspaper Tuesday that no final decision had been made about his future”.

For the record, if he does leave, he says it would be to spend more time with his family.

O'Brien

April 14th, 2010
4:27 pm

More reasons why Miami might prefer Hawks instead of Celtics.

1) Less travel time. From Miami to Atl is not a long trip.

2) Wade has more fans in ATL than he does in Boston.

3) Wade will get all the calls in ATL, while he would have to share the calls in Boston (KG and Pierce will get some).

O'Brien

April 14th, 2010
4:30 pm

Also, if Miami finishes 6th, then they will avoid Cleveland in the second round. And nobody (except maybe Boston) wants to play Cleveland in the second round.

BRAVO GO

April 14th, 2010
4:31 pm

Dear Jermaine,

Be careful what you wish for.

PMC

April 14th, 2010
4:32 pm

We have TV now, you can see guys play every single night. Who didn’t know that star players sit after they clinch?

Grandad

April 14th, 2010
4:32 pm

Cory: I double checked – “TigerWoods” [no space] (my mistake).

The Truth

April 14th, 2010
4:39 pm

If Doc is leaning, that means he’s gone. Nice move Doc, get out with some dignity.

Clay

April 14th, 2010
4:47 pm

Man all yall have got to be kidding me, talking all this smack on atlanta. Do yall even know what there record is? Yeah they have over 50 wins. That has’nt been done by them since the 97-98 season. OVER 10 YEARS, and all you want to talk about is how bad the team is. How in the hell did they win over 50 games then if they suck? People want to talk about WOODY not being a good coach and he need to be fired. Someone please name me 5 coaches, that has bettered there record each year for the last 6 years. I sure as hell cant think of any. Oh and every single one of you hawk hatters that live here in atlanta will probably go to the games or watch it on tv and still be routing for them. Yall are unbelievable with all that bulls*** you are saying about how s**tty they are. Come on man.

mario

April 14th, 2010
5:11 pm

Hey with the HAWKS playing the Bucks does this mean our playoff games wont be on national TV, TNT…….

mario

April 14th, 2010
5:19 pm

JUST BECAUSE THE TEAM HASNT WON THIS MANY GAMES BEFORE IS NOT A REASON TO BE HAPPY..YOU HAVE TO JUDGE THE PRODUCT SEEN AND HAS THIS TEAM PROGRESS AND WILL IT PROGRESS WITH SAME PLAYERS AND LEADERSHIP IN PLACE….THIS IS WHAT WE FANS SHOULD JUDGE AND GMANAGEMENT SHOULD JUDGE WHEN THEY MAKE OFFSEASON ADJUSTMENTS…..

REALLY YALL MAY NOT THINK THIS BUT THE HAWKS REALLY CAN COMPETET W\FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR AND COMING YEARS…IF THEY MINIMIZE MISTAKE A, THAT THEY SEEM TO CONSTANTLY MAKE AT INOPPORTUNE TIMES AND REALIZE IN THE FINAL MOMENTS OF GAMES THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE BALL TO BASKET AND GET FOULED LIKE OTHER TEAMS DO TO US IN THIER COMEBACKS……

i_am_soulstar

April 14th, 2010
5:29 pm

lol Not so loud Mario

These Heat fans are crazy if they think they’re going to beat us in a 7 game series, or even if they think they have a chance of competing.

Just as it applies to the Hawks 4-0 game record with the Celtics, it applies to the Heat. Season games mean nothing come playoff time.

Guys are playing at an entirely different level.

SWAT Native

April 14th, 2010
5:31 pm

Some of the Heat fans think that they would be better off with Boston:

I believe the Heat can be 2nd round and out especially if it goes up against Boston. Atlanta are solid at too many position and they got a wild-crd that just happens to be a Heat-killer in Crawford. Boston bench is slacking and KG just isn’t strong at this point in the season and career.

Stat Man

April 14th, 2010
5:41 pm

FIRE WOODY – HIRE DOC, an Atlanta favorite back in the 80’s!!!!

lewis

April 14th, 2010
5:52 pm

do not fire woody. make him an assistant.