Atlanta Hawks at Bucks: Too Much Fun Preparing For Games? (UPDATE: Crawford out with toe injury)
Woody's mad and Jamal is hurting. (AP Photo)
Milwaukee–(EDIT: Jamal Crawford (toe) is out. He said he hurt his right toe late in the Wizards game when (he thinks) big JaVale McGee came down on his foot while challenging a shot. He said he had turf toe during his New York days but that injury was “much worse” than this one. Crawford hopes to play Wednesday vs. Cleveland even if the game has no bearing on seeding for the playoffs.)
Tense scene at Hawks shootaround today. Woody was going over the Hawks’ defensive rotations and he felt some players were taking the lesson too lightly. So Woody told them in salty terms he didn’t see what was so funny considering opponents had been exploiting the Hawks’ in that very situation late in games.
Woody headed for the bus without talking to reporters. (Edit: In pregame Woody said: “That’s my time. That’s time for me and my staff. I don’t want to have to keep repeating myself because that means you’re not listening.”)
Clearly he’s not happy with the Hawks’ focus with game No. 81 tonight.
“That just comes with having a young team,” J.J. said. “Honestly that’s something we need to work on as players is locking in and having more attention to detail. Because that does come back to haunt us late in games.”
These things happen over the course of a long season, of course, but the circumstances had to bother Woody.
The Hawks are still playing for the third seed in the East. They aren’t a very good road team and have a tough task against the Bucks tonight, especially if with Jamal (toe) sits out. Leaving shooters open due to lax rotations has been an issue for much of the last half of the season–you only need to look back to the Wizards game Saturday to see how the Hawks can be nonchalant about rotating and closing out.
The Hawks seemed to take Woody’s blowup in stride.
“It can be tough late in the year like this,” Al said. “You don’t want to look ahead but you can’t help but look ahead at the playoffs. We have to do a better job as a team trying to key in and finish the right way.”
– The Bucks are 3-1 in games without Bogut. Old pro Kurt Thomas is picking up most of Bogut’s minutes and as pointed out by Charlie G., my old colleague at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Bucks are adjusting on the fly without Bogut:
“Bucks coach Scott Skiles has to do a balancing act with his lineup now that Bogut is absent and the team is relying on a center trio of Thomas, Dan Gadzuric and Primoz Brezec. At times, Skiles has elected to go with a smaller lineup, as he did in the fourth quarter Saturday with Brandon Jennings, Luke Ridnour, John Salmons and Jerry Stackhouse combining with 6-10 Ersan Ilyasova.”
Thomas is in his 15th season. Obviously there’s a dropoff from Bogut to Thomas in production, skill and size. But Thomas still is a pretty good pick-and-pop shooter
and a tough rebounder and post defender.
“He’s a very solid vet that knows how to play,” Horford said. “That’s the kind of guy you like to have on your team.”
Look for Al to take Thomas out to the perimeter, where he should have little trouble zipping by him.
– The only thing that can be settled for the Hawks in the playoff picture tonight is eliminating Charlotte as a potential foe. That happens if Miami wins at Philadelphia tonight to draw 3 games clear of Charlotte with each team having two more to play. Both the Bucks and Bobcats would win a tiebreaker over the Heat.
Jon Newberry at Hawksbasketblog breaks it down: “(T)here are too many possible scenarios of how things could shake out to go through them all. The simplest scenario is if we win our last two games against Milwaukee and against Cleveland and Miami wins their last two game. In that case the matchups would be ATL (3) vs. MIL (6) and BOS (4) vs. MIA (5).”
– THHB has a poll up at Peachtree Hoops asking who Hawks fans would rather face in the first round. So far it’s the Bucks in a landslide.
MC
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Billy D
April 12th, 2010
2:50 pm
It’d be interesting to see how the Hawks do without Jamal. Obviously they were pretty successful without him last year but, he’s become such a big part of the offense, I wonder if they’d be able to pull out a W anyway.
Any opinion on who you’d rather see in the first round MC? I personally would rather avoid Miami. They’ve had our number all season and D Wade scares me if he’s got revenge on his mind
Pepe
April 12th, 2010
2:56 pm
Uno…
O'Brien
April 12th, 2010
2:58 pm
Crawford missed a game before the AS break (I think it was against Miami), and we struggled mightily, because we dont really have anyone on the bench to pick up the scoring. I’m sure Teague and Mo will give it their best, but against the Bucks, that will not be good enough.
However, if he’s hurting, I hope he sits out. Becuase I dont want it to get any worse.
I’m glad Woody is getting on these guys, because its not easy to turn it on once you get to the playoffs. I expect the Hawks to come put and play better and defend better. Because even if we have a scoring drought, there is no excuse for not defending and rebounding.
JeJe
April 12th, 2010
3:00 pm
LOL the reason players were joking around is because this team has no leadership. Smoove tries to be a leader but isn’t talented enough.
Everyone else in the rotation just doesn’t talk. Bibby is quiet — Marvin is quiet — Joe doesn’t talk — Horford and Crawford don’t talk. ZaZa is ZaZa. So WHERE’s the leadership? This team has no LeBron or Kobe or Wade or Garnett. All we have is Joe who doesn’t talk and Smoove who has enough concerns about his game to lead this team
Section 303
April 12th, 2010
3:00 pm
I can’t believe the people in that poll. They would rather face the Bucks? They must be out of their minds. I would much rather face the Heat. The Bucks will give holy h#ll to whoever they play in the 1st round.
Woody takes so much crap on here, but I love him. Good for him getting on those guys for going half-ars through the pregame. At somepoint, these defensive breakdowns we see stop being Woody’s fault and become the fault of the players. I truely believe Woody does all he can do to prepare these guys.
I do not like our chances tonight without Crawford. The Bucks do not have Bogut, so that even things a little, I think..
JeJe
April 12th, 2010
3:01 pm
If we did play Miami in the playoffs, then WOODY NEEDS TO LOOK AT THE VIDEO ON YOUTUBE OF CRAWFORD DROPPING 50+ ON WADE. WHY DO WE NOT ISO CRAWFORD VS THE HEAT WHEN WE PLAY THEM?
Terry Stotts
April 12th, 2010
3:01 pm
FIRE WOODY
ken
April 12th, 2010
3:06 pm
how is he gone get mad when its his fault they have exploited us at the end of every game… Coach that means your not doin your job by not making any adjustments. and who waits to the 81st game to try 2 change everything. if u dont have it by now your not going to get it
Section 303
April 12th, 2010
3:07 pm
My playoff tickets just arrived today! Who bought them? Need to fill the place and make it loud.
Section 303
April 12th, 2010
3:09 pm
ken, stop it. You really think there aren’t any adjustments made by Woody? You win 51-games and never make adjustments…right.
cp
April 12th, 2010
3:14 pm
Guys clowning around might explain why they have been so terrible defensively lately. The way they are playing on the defensive end they are going to struggle to beat anybody in the first round.
Michael Cunningham
April 12th, 2010
3:23 pm
@ Billy D (works every time): to me the Heat is the Bucks (dedicated defensive team) plus D Wade. so, yeah, i’d say it’s preferable to avoid the Heat.
@JeJe: you may be on to something with your overall point. but Bibby and Jamal aren’t quiet, and Smoove is good enough to be a leader. maybe he doesn’t have the accomplishments for it yet but he’s got the talent.
@Ken: it seems to me adjustments are exactly what Woody was trying to teach during the session today. if some players aren’t taking it seriously, how is that Woody’s fault? and this isn’t the first time it’s gone down like this, either–i’ve touched on Woody’s attempts to break through the Hawks’ collective lack of focus in previous blogs. sometimes it seems like Hawks fans, in their zeal to pin everything on Woody, let the players off the hook too easily. these guys are supposed to be pros.
jg
April 12th, 2010
3:25 pm
i think we have to avoid miami as well. it’s not because i don’t think we can beat them–it’s just that i think they have the talent to beat us in a 7 game series. almost happened last year and i’d rather see milwaukee without boget than the heat with wade, o’neal and the refs.
need to win tonight and have the celtics lose on tuesday and then use wednesday to rest jamal. he needs to play tonight–put the pressure on boston for tuesday and then rest up some folks on wednesday if we have the third seed locked up.
go hawks–put the bucks away early!!!
O'Brien
April 12th, 2010
3:29 pm
I give Woody a hard time, but to be fair, its not always his fault.
Although I am not a big fan of the switching defense when it gets abused and he makes no adjustments, the ineffectiveness is magnified sometimes because the PLAYERS are lackadasical on their switching, and dont close out fast enough. And how hard is it to get a hand up?
And just because the switching leaves our players out of position sometimes, there have been times when the PLAYERS dont give the necessary effort to secure the rebound, and there’s no excuse for that.
So its not always Woody’s fault. Players have to share some of the blame.
Section 303
April 12th, 2010
3:29 pm
Michael, I think you are still a little too much of a Heat fan. They aren’t that good. They are not close to the Bucks, unless Bogut is out. Hawks match up much better with the Heat.
Marcus
April 12th, 2010
3:40 pm
MC,
that caption/photo combo is funny.
Interesting times … cant rest the starters as we are still bucking for the No. 3 seed and the chance to avoid CLE if we make it to the 2nd round ….
WHO sends WHO a message tonight? Reading the game recap on ESPN, the C’s were trying to put something in the back of the minds of MIL w/trash talk and chippiness.
Big B CH 99
April 12th, 2010
3:49 pm
If some of the starters lack defensive intensity, sit them down for a few minutes & replace them w/ defensive guys (Ex. # 1 = Mario).
U don’t want to leave Mario out there for too long, b/c he’s a liability on offense, but it might send a message to the starters.
Michael Cunningham
April 12th, 2010
3:59 pm
@section 303: “still a little too much of a Heat fan.” dude, when was i ever a Heat fan? i’m a fan of no team except my Louisville Cardinals. saying the Heat is a tougher matchup for the Bucks is not an outlandish statement without support. you do remember that seven-game series last year, right?
this reminds me: i’m saddened by the state of discourse in this country. too many people have the attitude that if someone has a reasonable opinion that differs theirs it can only mean that person has some hidden agenda or bias or is just plain stupid. in this case, Section 303 thinks the Hawks match up better with the Heat and anyone who thinks otherwise is “out of their minds” or a secret Heat fan–and this while he acknowledges that the Heat is “close” to the Bogut-less Bucks. so if it’s close, what’s the problem with picking one over the other?
personally, i’m willing to consider that reasonable opinions different from mine are just that: reasonable opinions that differ from mine and may in fact turn out to be better. am i the only one left that feels this way?
@Marcus: yeah, got lucky and found the perfect pic.
newkid
April 12th, 2010
4:10 pm
MC,
Have you yet been able to discern if there’s a single Hawks’ player who takes on the disciplinary role with his teammates that Kobe takes with the Lakers, that Jordan took with the Bulls, that KG takes with the Celtics (remember Big Baby’s tears on the bench last year?), etc? Someone who implores his teammates to achieve what they won’t/can’t simply under the guise of the HC? With what, by some reports, appears to be such a ‘happy -go-lucky’ bunch, how far can this side be expected to go without this sort of teammate? Must we import a Chris Paul type take charge guy before we can expect our core to be ‘driven’ to the next level by a teammate, or is there someone amongst the current core who’s capable of taking on this role? If he’s already here, what’ll it take for him to step up?
D Hawks
April 12th, 2010
4:13 pm
It concerns me that this team needs to be lectured on their focus in Game 81. I blame team leadership, i.e. our wannabe max player JJ, rather than Woody. If the players don’t realize that the 3 seed is better than the 4 seed, it’s Joe’s job to convey that. He’s just not that kind of guy, and everyone in the NBA tends to follow the mood/tempo of their lead guy even more than the coach. In the ideal situation the coach sets the tone and the lead guy conveys it (see Kobe and LeBron).
The Hawks definitely need to play Mil rather than Mia because any team with a superstar on the floor can beat you in a short series.
D Hawks
April 12th, 2010
4:17 pm
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D Hawks
April 12th, 2010
4:18 pm
I apologize for the last inadvertent submission
dstdeelite
April 12th, 2010
4:18 pm
@MC……Totally agree…..
There is one thing that everybody has and that is an opinion.
Michael Cunningham
April 12th, 2010
4:33 pm
@newkid and D Hawks: you both make very astute observations about the role of players in leadership.yes, newkid, i believe i have been able to make that determination. i was going to blog on it after i was covering the team a few weeks but didn’t feel comfortable doing so. now i do, so watch for a blog on that topic tomorrow.
@destdeelite: it seems nowadays there is a reluctance to look critically at one’s own opinions. instead, much more effort is expended attacking those who disagree rather than thoughtfully considering their reasoned views or seriously thinking about why we believe what we do. this trend probably doesn’t matter much in sports–in the end they are just games–but it’s disheartening to see in other facets of society.
Mike is Back
April 12th, 2010
4:38 pm
MC, I don’t think you can seriously consider yourself a contender for the ECF if you are worried about who you play in the first round…However, if for some reason it worked out that the Hawks didn’t have to face the Heat in the first round…I doubt you would get any complaints in the Hawks locker room. lol
I think the Heat, the Bucks, and Bobcat are all good teams…they all will be a difficult draw in the first round…if I had to pick an opponent…I would have to pick the Bucks. It will be interesting to see how things unfold.
I think it was long over due for Woody to hold these guys more accountable for their listless performance in the fourth quarter. I think they need to win the last two games to build some momentum going into the playoff. Winning tonight in Milwaukee will go a long ways towards that. I will be looking to see if the Hawks can build off their last road victory…that has proven to be a difficult task for these guys.
Grandad
April 12th, 2010
4:40 pm
MC: Right on! [uh oh, I just dated myself with a 60's hippy expression]
It’s like Limbough, Hannity, the whole ‘Fox crowd’, “fair & balanced”,
yeah right!
The state of discourse in this country borders on anarchy.
Thank you for your remarks.
Grandad
April 12th, 2010
4:47 pm
Ken Strickland: [from last blog]
On S.P. – Amen brother.
See above comment on Limbough, Hannity, O’Riley, Beck, et al.
Honestly, I don’t see how some of their remarks are not considered
‘treasonous’.
SWAT Native
April 12th, 2010
4:47 pm
This blog confirms what I said yeterday: the Hawks are bored and ready for the playoffs to start, and this is why they have been playing down to their level of competition for the past few weeks. I’m glad that Woody responded the way that he did, because this is an important game tonight, both to send a message to a potential playoff opponent and to secure the third seed. I hope that Crawford plays.
Good point on the level of discourse, MC.
UGA
April 12th, 2010
4:48 pm
Hey MC, Read a rumor today that Mo Evans is going to opt out of his deal.
I thought his deal was a TEAM option, it must be a player option instead. Maybe it’s not true, maybe it is. We’d miss his toughness for sure.
If we did lose him, I’d love to see us add a scorer (like the Mike Miller we saw Saturday who is a free agent). We’d be very hard to zone with him, Jamal and Bibby in the game. But, may be easy to score on.
Section 303
April 12th, 2010
4:58 pm
Michael, my apologies…I will put myself in timeout.
Grandad
April 12th, 2010
5:04 pm
Tiger Woods:
Congrats on wi, what?, wait, he didn’t, never mind.
I’ll get back to you latr with a response.
I’m not ducking, I’m just outa’ time.
[Mrs. Grandad, requires my immediate attn.]
Excellent post by you, my good man.
Worthy adversary.
You may have misinterpreted my Bob Knight remarks – we shall see?
I have read “A Season on the Brink” @ least [3] times.
I watched that wretched movie [ESPN] once & that was [1] too many.
Also I have read @ least [12] books on or about BK. [more like 20]
I admire the man, yet, feel sorry for him. [misguided genius]
Explanation – later.
Too much to touch on, enjoy the game.
J.Cast
April 12th, 2010
5:06 pm
I don’t want Jamal to be out because 1) we’ll lose 2) Most importantly, he’ll come back out of rhyhtm like with his shoulder injury, or maybe this is different because it won’t affect his shooting, or will it? Was that a fragment? Did Woody slap Jeff? Why does Woody always single Marvin out, Marvin is good at Basketball.
SWAT Native
April 12th, 2010
5:24 pm
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VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
5:30 pm
I will say this season has been a roller coaster ride. So high Highs and so low Lows. But thankfully more highs than lows. I might come off like I’m always pissed at this team but I am proud of em. Lets just finish strong.
lewis
April 12th, 2010
5:54 pm
I said it a few days ago, i’ve felt it all season, Evans isn’t happy about the lack of effort by the young core of the team. its too inconsistent for someone that brings 100% everytime he is called off the bench. he’s better than marvin and doesn’t get used enough, why would he want to stay?
He would be a solid addition to most teams in the nba.
that description of attitudes could probably be used interchangeably in terms of Joe Johnson. Joe Johnson and Mo Evans are very serious about winning every single night, why would they want to be on a team with younger players / bigger contracts / no dedication? Joe doesn’t vocalize it because he doesn’t want to deal with the drama that comes along with constructive criticism, but inside he’s on fire and probably has plenty of things to say to the rest of the team. these are just assumptions, but you can almost see it in how they play. Joe Smith is another guy who can really help a team if they let him, but the Hawks younger players don’t seem to realize how much that dude knows about basketball, and they often (like today at practice) don’t seem like they want to learn.
Basketball is a game, and, treating it as such, the Hawks don’t always seem to take it seriously. its the stuff that’s not fun that wins you championships. No one likes to listen to coaches or teachers at the end of the season / semester, but if you want to win in the playoffs, thats what it takes. Not taking practice seriously is disrespectful not only to the entire organization, but to the players themselves. If you can’t take your job seriously, how are people going to take you seriously?
lewis
April 12th, 2010
6:02 pm
…and if you’re not taking the game seriously, players (possibly Mo / JJ) who do, are going to put themselves on a different team. A team whose players share that same serious mentality about playing and winning in the game of basketball.
money is unfortunately the biggest factor so we never really know the underlying reasons as to why players decide to stay or go
Woody
April 12th, 2010
6:15 pm
Im about to SLAP the shiet outta one you muthasugaaas!!!!! Keep on fuggin wit me!!!!
Justin
April 12th, 2010
6:15 pm
By far I prefer the Bucks to the Heat in round 1. The Heat almost beat us last year and they’ve been playing well the last few weeks, plus they have D Wade and beat us 3 times this year. The Bucks were a bit lucky to beat us one time and are without their best player, who happens to be a big. That gives us a huge advantage against them.
The Truth
April 12th, 2010
6:18 pm
Not sure about the source of the Mo Evans rumor but this is not the proper time to air out such dirty laundry. Mo Evans has his positive moments on this team but he is certainly replaceable. If he has a player option for next year, he is in his right to exercise that part of the contract. If his agent can work a deal that gets him a starter job (as a SG) for any of the elite teams above the Hawks than he should go for it.
tjhook
April 12th, 2010
6:21 pm
this disussion about who is the Hawks’ leader confirms why people would like to see Woodson relieved of his duties. Woodson should already have his sargeant appointed and barking directions to the remaining players. I thought that would be Bibby’s contribution to the club, but apparently that message has not been enforced enough. When your team is lacking effort, that sargeant barks out the reinforcement – even if they don’t always have the best ability, they show through determination and passion that effort will be present and easily identified. Woodson needs to challenge Joe to physically confront the players if he has the nerve to ask for franchise-player designated money because if Joe leaves, Woodson should leave.
Clyde
April 12th, 2010
6:23 pm
FIRE WOODY
JeJe
April 12th, 2010
6:34 pm
FIRE WOODY
JeJe
April 12th, 2010
6:37 pm
MC,
While I hear Bibby is a jokester, I hear he also doesn’t talk much. People say JJ is laid back. Wtf does that mean? Is the guy talkative or not? Hubie Brown said Jamal is very soft-spoken and quiet during the ATL/CLE game 2 weeks ago so I wasn’t sure. When I met him he was very nice.
Also, does anyone remember Sekou’s post 2 years ago about how we need a Ron Artest? It was February 2008 and he used some really weird word to describe a really powerful/beastly player the other team will fear and how the Hawks didn’t have one. I’ll look for it now
Melvin Flowers-Macon Georgia
April 12th, 2010
7:00 pm
Great Job Woody In 2010
But …………………………………The Hawks Needs A New Leader. Its Time To Move On We Thank You For The Time And The Many Years U Gave To the Hawks. The Hawks Needs A Leader That Would Push Them To Be A Better Team Than They Are Today. #1 How To Learn How To Win On The Road, Plus How To Finish a Game In The Final Qt.
lewis
April 12th, 2010
7:12 pm
anyone remember the hawks going 14-1 with Evans starting in place of Williams last year? …
Blast
April 12th, 2010
7:31 pm
Don’t fancy Hawks chances tonight if Jamal does not play.
Not suprised Hawks were not taking defence seriously. It’s caused them a bunch of games this season. And the problem always seems to start with the starters. The second unit plays far more aggresive defence. They also hustle for boards. In fact, the 2nd unit seems to play a different brand of basketball altogether. 1st unit thinks they can just sleepwalk through a game, and win.
Give me the Bucks anyday. When was the last time they made the playoffs? Let Miami and Celtics duke it out.
Go, Hawks!
Section 303
April 12th, 2010
7:36 pm
I think you are all getting carried away with this “Hawks need a leader” stuff. Someone mentioned how the Hawks do not have a Kobe, LeBron, or Wade to lead. What makes those guys good leaders? Just because they are good? Artest is a leader? Why? Because people are afraid of him?
The Hawks problem is maturity. That’s why they lose to a bad Piston team, a bad GS team, and a bad 76′er team. They think they can just flip a switch and start to play like an NBA title team. They can’t. I really do not think there is a team in the league today that can, frankly.
I also do not think any of us, including the hacks, know this team well enough to say who is a leader and who isn’t. Is Bibby? Is Joe? Who the F knows?
I do think Woody is a leader, though. We all love Josh Smith, but I would be willing to bet he would not be half the player he is today without Woody refusing to take his bullsh#t. And, I say again, good for Woody to blast those guys for not paying attention during a walk through.
A mature team comes out tonight and plays with great effort against a team they might play in the first round. Great time to send a message that they can beat the Bucks at home, on the road, on Mars, it doesn’t matter. But, these are the Hawks…we know what we will get. They lose tonight. We all know this.
Despite all that, I still say they will be ready to roll for the playoffs. I just hope it is not the Bucks they face. Matchup problems everywhere…
O'Brien
April 12th, 2010
7:51 pm
A leader does not guarantee that the Hawks wont lose to bad teams. After all, look how many games Boston has lost to bad teams, and KG is one of the leaders on that team.
However, for a young team such as the Hawks, it would be beneficial to have an emotional leader to help fire the younger guys up, and to help keep them in line.
But our leader JJ tries to lead by example, and Josh and Al are still young, while Bibby will be gone soon. So the team needs to help lift each other up.
northcyde
April 12th, 2010
8:00 pm
Will Teague rise to the occasion tonight? A good showing in this game can mean the difference between getting his 7 – 10 min per game in the playoffs . . . or Woody opting not to play him AT ALL.
And we don’t need you deciding to play ball when we’re already down 12 – 15 points. We need you playing ball in the 2nd Quarter . . or as in the case tonight, late in the 1st Quarter.
MAKE coach play you 20+ minutes tonight, because you are playing well . . . not because the game is a blowout ( in either direction )
Is it too much to ask of him to play like a BALLER in the 1st half of a game?
Is it too much to ask him to produce 5 – 9 FG . . 3 – 4 FT . . 1 – 2 3FG . . for 14 pts and 7 assists in 22 minutes of play?
Is that asking too much?
The Truth
April 12th, 2010
8:10 pm
Don’t misunderstand the leadership issue as it is more of a factor on the road. Boston Celtics has one of the best records in the NBA while the Hawks has one of the worst for the top 4 teams.
lewis
April 12th, 2010
8:11 pm
called it. just had him on right before the game, and i quote Mo Evans, “” we won 50 games and we’re still underachieving” ——- that’s the amazing thing about this team.”
O'Brien
April 12th, 2010
8:11 pm
northcyde,
14 points and 7 assists in 22 minutes? I know he will play with the bench, against other bench players, but I think thats asking too much from the rook.
JJ or Crawford can’t even average 14 pts and 7 assists in 22 minutes.
Nacho
April 12th, 2010
8:11 pm
Northcycle: Our starting PG don’t average that.
lewis
April 12th, 2010
8:11 pm
and jamal is out.
terrell
April 12th, 2010
8:13 pm
No Crawford? Well I guess I’ll go to bed. Goodnight.
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
8:14 pm
Marvin gotta step it up in Craws absence.
terrell
April 12th, 2010
8:15 pm
No worries. Marvin will have a monster game tonight. lol!
bigdave
April 12th, 2010
8:18 pm
its like a soccer game in there.. crazy.. didnt even know you can have horns…
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
8:22 pm
ah well, horns better than night club megamix during gameplay
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
8:22 pm
Marvin takin over! Joe looks like he’s got a pair of those fuzzy bedroom slippers on. lol.
Melvin
April 12th, 2010
8:23 pm
Aren’t those noise makers that the Bucks fans are using illegal????
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
8:23 pm
oh yeah
FIRE WOODY
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
8:25 pm
most arenas got rules on decible level of noisemakers.
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
8:26 pm
Right – FIRE WOODY right before the playoffs start. Only a moron would suggest that.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
8:26 pm
Are we seriously talking about our team being too young? Not only are we not one of the youngest teams in the NBA any longer, but the average number of years in NBA experience should offset that.
This is where veteran player leadership comes in. God forbid I say any of it falls on the coach….
drmaryb
April 12th, 2010
8:26 pm
NorthCyde
“Is that asking too much?”
I DOTH THINKETH NOT
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
8:27 pm
uh oh injuries? play the bench woody. pull the starters.
northcyde
April 12th, 2010
8:28 pm
I’m just saying folks. If he’s the type of PG that’s being held back, he needs to do something special, in order to gain the confidence of the team and the coach.
I’ll take 10 pts – 7 assists . . . or 14 pts – 3 assists
I want to get excited about the kid like some of you do. I want him to show his talent when the game is still in doubt.
It’ll be a shame if Bibby has to play 38 minutes . . or worse, Woody opts to go with Mario for a 5 – 6 minute stretch as the defensive PG, while JJ handles the ball.
I get tired of trying to hype up guys when they play well during blowouts ( like I used to do with Salim and Acie ).
Do it when the game is still in doubt. Just WOW me for one game Mr. Teague.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
8:30 pm
I sure hope Josh is okay.
Ree Roe
April 12th, 2010
8:32 pm
What happened to Josh?
-gREEt Roe?
bigdave
April 12th, 2010
8:33 pm
ditto… Big Ray
bigdave
April 12th, 2010
8:33 pm
yesir.
Melvin
April 12th, 2010
8:34 pm
Bibby is smoking….
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
8:34 pm
Bib must be invisible, Bucks can’t find him.
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
8:34 pm
Biggy should do a frog dance. He’s on fire
macaroni tony
April 12th, 2010
8:37 pm
what happened to Josh any has an update?
jayson
April 12th, 2010
8:38 pm
Venom Spitter lol Bibby brings out the frog dance during the playoffs. Bibby is smoking
O'Brien
April 12th, 2010
8:38 pm
drmaryb, northcyde,
Deron Williams and CP3 average 19 and 11 in 38 mpg. Steve Nash average 17 and 11 in 33 mpg.
But you guys want our rookie to give you 14 and 7 in 22 minutes? It would be nice for him to do that, but to expect it? That sounds unfair to me.
Bibby looking good so far. Bench will need to play well and keep this lead.
bigdave
April 12th, 2010
8:39 pm
what kind of question is that Big Kuntry…
sitting over there looking cool and shiiii on the road and you come up with that..?
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
8:39 pm
did i type biggy? LMAO i meant bibby
drmaryb
April 12th, 2010
8:40 pm
Blue-Ray
(Mega-Pixels)
Josh will be fine. Looks like an upper thigh contusion. Looks like he ran into Bibby’s
Hip. He is icing it now, it would be better to keep playing so the muscle doesn’t tighten up.
Hawks look really KEWL tonite. F O C U S E D!
bigdave
April 12th, 2010
8:40 pm
that was a SW YMCA pin right there from the Vet…
Blast
April 12th, 2010
8:41 pm
Nice to see the love for Josh. He got kneed in the thigh. He’s a tough buck, he will be back, I’m sure.
Bibby is smokin’!
macaroni tony
April 12th, 2010
8:41 pm
that’s good to hear….
bigdave
April 12th, 2010
8:41 pm
Joe broke Stackhouse ankles…
lets GO JEFF.. this is where you need to earn your mins.. 2nd guard off the bench…
Joe looks explosive..
drmaryb
April 12th, 2010
8:42 pm
Joe Smith looked like Spider – Man on that block! LOL!
Its T E A G U E – T I M E! Yeah!
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
8:42 pm
we need sandman sims to scoot across the court on his chair and drag coach deadwood off with his big hook
bigdave
April 12th, 2010
8:43 pm
LETS GO MARVIN!!! step up!!
Blast
April 12th, 2010
8:43 pm
Yeah, Joe looks very good.
But refs screwing us as usual!
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
8:43 pm
Loved watching Bibby hit that long three earlier.
Loving what I’m seeing from Joe Smith as far as activity level. I hope to see more of it in the playoffs.
Ree Roe
April 12th, 2010
8:44 pm
You put Teague in & the lead disappears. What a surprise…
-fREE Roe!!!
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
8:46 pm
Bucks are not looking forward to seeing Joe in the playoffs, I can tell you that. He’s already rippin’ them a new one, which I love to see.
Man, I still love this activity level from Joe Smith, even if that was over the back.
Blast
April 12th, 2010
8:47 pm
Y’all saw Crawford yelling and screaming when Bibby hit that last 3? He could tell it was going in.
Bench without Jamal sure looks different, don’t it?
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
8:47 pm
ZaZa doin work
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
8:47 pm
Z makin um pay for not matching Hawks offer.
bigdave
April 12th, 2010
8:48 pm
playoff ZaZa..
drmaryb
April 12th, 2010
8:48 pm
Zsa playing B I G!
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
8:49 pm
Yeah, it’s definitely Teague’s fault that the lead has disappeared. The fact that none of the starters (except Marvin) are in the game, none of the reserves (except Zaza, finally) have scored either, has nothing to do with it.
And we don’t miss Jamal, either. No, we need to just fire Teague. He makes us lose leads, and probably games as well. Besides, Bibby had Stackhouse, Ridnour, Jennings, and Salmons all locked down. I think Teague was in when they scored, not Bibby.
That dang Teague. When can we get rid of him?
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
8:50 pm
cmonnnnn woody whatcha gonna do?
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
8:51 pm
time for some stellar woody coaching
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
8:51 pm
Baha Moute? go Nique.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
8:51 pm
Zaza and Joe Smith. Good looking tandem off the bench right now. Lots of energy.
How do we keep letting Jerry Stackhouse get free? Dude ends up open all over the place!
Oh wait…..it must be Teague. Dastardly rookie.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
8:52 pm
Good thing Mo Evans caught that pass right in his hands, under the basket. Teague was trying to throw it away, I think.
Blast
April 12th, 2010
8:53 pm
How come Hawks get called for an over the back at the other end, and we can’t get the same call on the same play at our own end? Can NBA refs ever call a game straight for once in their miserable lives?
drmaryb
April 12th, 2010
8:53 pm
Great pass JT0!
Why didn’t sign Stack? Our bench needs scoring weapons! Not 2 second Def – Stops at end of games!
bigdave
April 12th, 2010
8:53 pm
Moe has the presence of mind not to just stand while Teague is on the floor… the offense should actually have movement with no iso or spot up guards on the floor..
Teague could have 8 dimes a game..
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
8:54 pm
Stack pushed off Joe on that J.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
8:55 pm
Teague fails to stop STackhouse again. Oh wait, he’s out of the game now.
Meanwhile, Joe lookin’ like Playoff Joe right now. Oh yeahhhhhhh….
Ree Roe
April 12th, 2010
8:56 pm
@ Big Ray, I understand you’re a Teague fan. I get it. But just b/c he’s ya boy doesn’t mean that he’s not a liability on offense & a spectator on defense. Yall put on your Superman cape anytime Teague is criticized. Gimmie a break…
-gREEn Roe!!
bigdave
April 12th, 2010
8:56 pm
Mo the new baseline bum…!
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
8:56 pm
Hawks tried to sign Stack, drmaryb. he thought grass wuz greener in Milwaukee
Blast
April 12th, 2010
8:56 pm
Mo reminds me of Chills. Moving well without the ball.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
8:56 pm
Holy crap, Zaza is all over the glass!
Mo Evans looks great…well, except the missed 3 and the foul….though I actually liked the foul….
bigdave
April 12th, 2010
8:57 pm
there you go Mo… if he wanna act like he got clotheslined thats his b. i…
Melvin
April 12th, 2010
8:57 pm
Is there any doubt that Stackhouse can still play????
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:00 pm
Ree Roe ,
It’s a smart-a$$ cape. Get it right, dammit.
And I realize you hate Teague and he can do nothing good in your eyes, and Rick Sund is Buffoon of the Year for picking him in the draft. I’d rather we try for our pg of the future than pick another Marvin over a CP3 or Deron Williams. But hey, that’s just me. Try not to take it personal.
Or…we could just say he’s a rookie with faults in his game (imagine that), and he has room to improve, but probably can’t be expected to have done so in 9 mpg over the course of a year, while learning from a 11 year veteran who plays crappy defense of his own. But that might make too much sense.
I have no silly tag line to add to my posts, but if I try real hard…..maybe I’ll be as funny as you some day. Nah…
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:01 pm
Melvin ,
Just think. We eventually ended up with Super Mario over Stackhouse, who was right under our nose the whole time.
Blast ,
I agree!
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
9:02 pm
My dog Jodie Meeks has 21 points in 19 minutes for Philly – 5 for 7 in threes.
northcyde
April 12th, 2010
9:02 pm
( sigh )
Melvin
April 12th, 2010
9:02 pm
“Not just Richard Jefferson…Atlanta’s Maurice Evans will likely be opting out of his 2.5 million $ contract this summer as well I’m told.
Jonathan Givony- DraftExpress”
Oh well, extra money to give the Childress…..
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:03 pm
WHOOOOOOOO!!!! Joe with the sweeeeet move!
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
9:03 pm
Marvin is unstoppable.
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
9:04 pm
Childress can stay in Europe – he’s scared of the NBA.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:04 pm
I don’t know what I hate more, the whoopin’ Stack is putting on us, or the fact that we decided to pass on him, when we could have had him for very little cash.
Meanwhile, Josh is getting torched with fouls on the perimeter as he is forced to guards 1s, 2s, and 3s.
God, I love the switch defense. Playoff preview anyone?
Blast
April 12th, 2010
9:04 pm
Ever since Stackhouse signed with the Bucks, he has been looking for ways to show up the Hawks. Just another example tonight.
He could not convert on the rare 4 point game, though.
drmaryb
April 12th, 2010
9:05 pm
Stack is NO JQuick/JCross when it comes to 4 point plays!
Melvin
April 12th, 2010
9:05 pm
Big Ray,
We will see the value of Super Mario in the playoffs when he will stop DWade from scoring the last basket before halftime in Game 1.
HawksFan11
April 12th, 2010
9:08 pm
Joe going for 40 tonight
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:09 pm
Smokin’ Joe Johnson. Playoff preview, people.
We will need Joe so much, and he will be against Milwaukee what Dwyane Wade is against many teams: something to be feared. Only, Joe does it without all the ticky tack foul calls (or any calls at all, actually).
Blast
April 12th, 2010
9:10 pm
Joe is on firrrrrrrre!
This is the Joe I know and love! Making quick decisions, scoring the ball! Now he has guard duty on Stackhouse. Hope he keeps it up!
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:12 pm
Blast,
That’s true. But look what he does for the Bucks in 20 minutes a night. 8 points, 2.4 rbs. We get 2 more points and 2.6 more rebounds out of our $37.5 million starting SF, in about 10 minutes more per game.
Ewwww…
Ree Roe
April 12th, 2010
9:12 pm
@ Big Ray,
I’m not sure if you caught the last discussion I had on the Rook, but I bare no ill will towards Teague. Quite the contrary. I want the young man to succeed & help the Hawks reach that championship level. I was happy when we drafted him & gave his poor play a pass for the first 3/4 of the season. But now I believe he is not ready to help the Hawks this yr & he is a liability to have on the court, especially in playoff type games. Hopefully he improves next season, but as of now he gives us NOTHING.
As for the taglines, who said I was tryna be funny?
-REEady made Roe!!!
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
9:13 pm
Why do the Hawks always draft players with “broken” jumpshots?
Josh Childress
Salim Stoudamire
Acie Law
and now . . . Jeff Teague
drmaryb
April 12th, 2010
9:17 pm
Time for a Beer Break.
I heard Mr. Woodson got S A L T Y in walk through today. Setting up the Defensive rotation for tonight & guyswere horsing around!
Looks like Joe stepped up to settle the guys down. It seems like Joe is verbal in the club house settings.
This is still his team if he wants it. The guys do defer to Joe as such.
Everyone looks focused tonight & Came to play ball!
Ree Roe
April 12th, 2010
9:18 pm
Watch out BONEY. Big Ray won’t like you talkin about his PG like that
-REEd Roe!
Blast
April 12th, 2010
9:19 pm
About Stackhouse coming to Hawks, Jerry did drop numerous hints that he would like to play with the Hawks. Who wouldn’t want sunny weather vs cold and snow 10 months a year? Or a 51 team vs a 45 win team?
Personally, I feel it might have come down to money, and maybe the ASG under estimated Jerry’s skills, so a deal was not done. Or maybe he wasn’t even on Sund’s radar at all.
Be as it may, Hawks have played so well on the road so far vs a possible playoff opponent, that it would be a shame if they end up losing. That would be a heartbreaker!
cp
April 12th, 2010
9:20 pm
You have to love some of the fans on here. One wants the rook to put up numbers even the starter does not put up. Whats funny about that is he is the same guy who said the rook doesn’t deserve minutes and isn’t as good as the starter. But now somehow the rook is supposed to put up numbers the starter cant even sniff….. I really wish Joe Smith would move closer with his jumper. I don’t know the last time he hit one. You have to love blaming losing the lead on the rook as if he was the only one on the floor. I guess the other 4 players were playing lock down d and the rook was getting abused. Nah that didn’t happen but lets just go with that anyway. Hard to rack up dimes as a pg when the guys you’re passing too cant hit a jumper. I like the chemistry between the rook and Mo Evans Evans seems to be the only one with enough sense to keep moving without the ball..
And Stackhouse really must still be mad at the Hawks for not signing him. He talked all summer and even during the season about how he wanted to play for the Hawks. The Hawks being the Hawks opted for Mario West. smh . Stack has probably scored this game what Mario has scored the past two seasons. I hope we are done with the Mario experiment after this season.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:20 pm
Ree Roe ,
Come on, now. I refuse to believe you’re that slow. I warned you I had my smart-a$$ cape on, didn’t I?
I recall your last discussion on Teague. I just felt like you exaggerated your view of how I see Teague (he’s not my boy, he ain’t earned that distinction yet), so I replied in an exaggerated way. I know you don’t hate the guy. And believe me, I am WELL AWARE of his faults.
At the same time, how can you ignore the quotes from Woody, who has said he planned to bring Teague along slowly, as he had the luxury of a legit starting pg in Mike Bibby, and a great 2 for 1 backup in Jamal Crawford? Teague gives us more than “nothing”, but he doesn’t give us a lot . Again, how much do you expect from a guy who is “allowed” 9 minutes per game on average, and sometimes doesn’t get to play at all? How can you ignore the five game stretch that I pointed out, wherein Teague got a consistent 20 mpg and put up stats that are as good as those Ty Lawson was getting in 20 mpg in Denver? Facts are facts, man. I just refuse to throw out the kid as a waste when he was never expected to even get to do a whole lot in the first place, AS WOODY SAID IN THE FIRST PLACE.
That’s all we’re arguing about. I never expected the kid to do much, considering Woody said (I can’t say this enough) that he planned to bring him along slowly. I still wanted him to play more though, because I don’t like the idea of using just one guard to relieve two guys (Jamal subs for both Bibby and Joe, just like Flip did last season). But that’s my opinion. I’m not even arguing the decision of a coach to do so with his rookie pg when he has three capable veteran guards and his methods (and the team’s talent) have resulted in 51 wins so far.
I just don’t agree that Teague sucks, or gives us “nothing”, as you describe it. Not when he showed what he could do with consistent minutes, which he rarely got.
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
9:20 pm
wow jj showing up tonight for a change
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
9:21 pm
I’m sorry Ree, but has Jeff Teague made a jumper this year? If he came in and scored some buckets, maybe Woody would leave him in the game for more than 6 minutes a night.
northcyde
April 12th, 2010
9:22 pm
( sigh ) @ Ree Roe . . . I agree 100%
To be a effective PG in the NBA, you have to have a “take charge” attitude, along with the skill to match.
I don’t see it. Other than the athleticism, this is Acie Law all over again ( so far ).
Teague . . work on your jumper this summer, and come back next year being able to knock down the 15 – 20 ft jumper off the dribble.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:23 pm
CP ,
You have to love some of the fans on here. One wants the rook to put up numbers even the starter does not put up. Whats funny about that is he is the same guy who said the rook doesn’t deserve minutes and isn’t as good as the starter. But now somehow the rook is supposed to put up numbers the starter cant even sniff..
Precisely. That never ceases to amuse me. But you DO know that saying things like this means that said rookie is now “your boy.” No, really. Pointing things out like that means you are now claiming the player as your own, will put him on your medical insurance, and even claim him on your income tax return paperwork.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:25 pm
I’m sorry Ree, but has Jeff Teague made a jumper this year? If he came in and scored some buckets, maybe Woody would leave him in the game for more than 6 minutes a night.
Yep. That also explains why Bibby gets to stay in a game after he shoots 2 for 8. Even if he does it night after night. I give up….
J.J.M.
April 12th, 2010
9:27 pm
I just turned to the game wtf is up with the horn sounds?
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
9:27 pm
Marvin is WADDLING
J.J.M.
April 12th, 2010
9:28 pm
sound like the vikings stadium
cp
April 12th, 2010
9:29 pm
Ray thats why i stay away from most of the Teague discussions. Some guys on here exaggerate so much that its beyond funny.
drmaryb
April 12th, 2010
9:30 pm
Marvin passes the ball like its a HOT potatoe! Why is he so scared to make a play for himself?
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:32 pm
Northcyde ,
Wow. So Teauge is supposed to “take charge” on a team that features Joe Johnson, Jamal Crawford, and Mike Bibby, run by a coach that prefers to bring his rookie along slowly, while using his veteran guards to help the team to 51 wins.
So, shooting 48% over a five game stretch was an aberration that deserved the immediate return to 2, 3, and 4 minute games, Woody was flat out lying when he said that he “felt Teague played good for a guy who doesn’t get many minutes”, and if Teague hits the 15-20 foot jumper consistently enough…..he’ll what ?
I wonder how Speedy Claxton (when healthy), Brevin Knight, Ray Felton, and several other pgs I could name, managed to survive in this league? Maybe a little defense and the ability to get teammates involved, while playing their role had something to do with it.
Nevermind. Those are clearly the delusions of an insane mind, and I made it all up in my head.
Justin
April 12th, 2010
9:32 pm
I’m glad that Josh got this game out of his system before the playoffs start. Clunker for him tonight.
Melvin
April 12th, 2010
9:33 pm
I think Big AL is fustrated by Thomas ruff play…
Blast
April 12th, 2010
9:33 pm
Get AL out! Bring in Zaza!
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
9:33 pm
Al is fustrated. go Nique.
Justin
April 12th, 2010
9:34 pm
I feel a big finish coming on for Zaza.
Ree Roe
April 12th, 2010
9:37 pm
@ Big Ray, everything you said is all well & good. But my original comment was about how the lead we have/had disappears when he’s in the game. He’s NOT contributing. He’s actually hurting the team when he’s in the game. The court as a classroom moments for Teague are over. If he’s not ready to contribute, keep him on the bench. Every possesion is crucial for the Hawks & we don’t have time for him to mess up while we try to clinch
-REElax, it’s Roe!!!
cp
April 12th, 2010
9:38 pm
drmaryb lol thats a question about Marvin that many of us have been asking for years.
Big Ray lol you might as well give up. These are the same people who will say but it was garbage time if he plays well in extended minutes but criticize the kid if he doesn’t go crazy in 5 minutes worth of play. Oh and don’t even bring up the numerous eggs Bibby has put up this season. That always seems to escape their memory.
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
9:38 pm
how can you front Josh and still be in front of him, Nique?
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
9:39 pm
oops, meant behind him.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:39 pm
CP ,
What’s bad is when you know instinctively that they are smarter than that (well, some of them anyway) and then they just totally ignore the facts. Whatever. I should emulate you and just refrain.
No way is Teague like Law. Even Mike Woodson doesn’t see it that way, and he was rather explicit when he said so. I recall him saying ‘Nothing against Acie or his game, but THIS kid has the necessary skills.’
I wish I could find a link to that article. Woody doesn’t even see these two guys the same. He’s never been this positive about Law. I’ve never understood how a Woody apologist could ever be in such stark contrast with Woody’s publicized opinions. Whatever. There are also people who think they’ve been inducted by Martians….
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
9:40 pm
DIZZZZUNK
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
9:40 pm
great ball movement
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
9:40 pm
SWAT THAT ROCK!!!
Blast
April 12th, 2010
9:40 pm
Hawks are looking gooooood, man!
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
9:40 pm
get that weak shiznit outta here
Melvin
April 12th, 2010
9:40 pm
Josh is hosting a block party in the 3rd qtr….
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:41 pm
Wow. This is gonna be one heck of a series.
We talk about Stack gearing up to play us. Let’s not forget Zaza was once a Buck. And he’s giving his former team some kinda hell, ain’t he?
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
9:41 pm
wow stern is ok with those horns? wtf
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:42 pm
Joe looks like a true predator out there. He’s getting that playoff look. Haven’t seen him with that look since the playoffs against Boston. I like it!
drmaryb
April 12th, 2010
9:42 pm
Looks like Charlotte locked up that 7 Spot. We play either Buks or Miami.
After we Win tonite – which team is more likely for us?
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:43 pm
I think it’s the fact that Joe is going to the basket more than usual, and mixing that well with his tricky dribble/jab step/step-back jumper game.
Blast
April 12th, 2010
9:44 pm
Zaza sure is, Ray. Not sure if it has anything to do with Bucks as his former team, it’s been so looooog ago, but Zaza has been fiery the last few games, man.
Love it! Hawks need him!
cp
April 12th, 2010
9:44 pm
You have to give the Bucks credit though. They are without their best player and are getting killed inside but they play so hard. They don’t give up at all. Their shot selection, mostly by Jennings is whats hurting them.
northcyde
April 12th, 2010
9:45 pm
You guys keep talking in circles. I’m not asking him to average 14 and 7 . . . I just wanted ONE GAME in which he showed his talents, while the game is still in the balance.
That’s it.
The kid has to learn to make an impact in 5 – 7 minute stretches. When he can do that, he’ll get more playing time.
OK . . . I’ve significantly lowered my expectations now. All I want him to do, is spark a run. 7 – 0 run . . . 10 – 2 run, etc. It could be via scoring, or defense, or anything. I just want HIM to spark it. That’s IF Woody puts him back in.
Is that asking too much to see in just ONE game?
Make an impact in a fairly close game just one time please sir.
Blast
April 12th, 2010
9:47 pm
Hawks missing crucial free throws.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:47 pm
drmaryb ,
Milwaukee
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
9:48 pm
flyin mo!
Blast
April 12th, 2010
9:48 pm
How could that be a foul on Mo? He went up higher, got the rebound, and Brandon ran into him!
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
9:49 pm
JJ got his Mojo back
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
9:49 pm
sweet j from jj
save some for the playoffs
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:49 pm
CP ,
I give up. I posted a 5 game stretch in December in which Teague not only played well, but sparked the team. No matter how many times I posted it, it gets ignored. You can lead a horse to water. You might even get it to drink. But you can’t keep it from spitting the water out.
Jody
April 12th, 2010
9:51 pm
The officiating in this game has been horrible (against the Hawks!)
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
9:51 pm
Ken Strickland
February 28th, 2010
6:47 pm
It’s interesting to hear we tried to sign Stackhouse. Do you think his decision to sign with Milwaukee had anything to do with his knowledge of Woodson’s reluctance to utilize his bench beyond JCrawford? Have you noticed how BJennings has been unable to get in the lane since Teague entered the gm. And have you also noticed how we haven’t had to switch everything, as a result of Teagues ball pressure and ability to fight over picks?
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:52 pm
Seen Teague spark the team in more than one game with a steal and a couple of assists to guys who wouldn’t otherwise get the ball (Joe Smith, Zaza). Must have been my imagination. Unfortunately, Bob Rathbun, Dominique Wilkins, and the statisticians have all suffered the exact same delusions.
That, and how many times can you expect to see the rookie in a tight situation when Jama or Mike is available? Exactly. I give up this time. No, really.
HawksFan11
April 12th, 2010
9:53 pm
Northcyde
This is the kind of leadership I expect from Joe. Scoring at will inside and out, directing traffic, pumping guys up, got that killer look in his eyes and the team is responding.
Great job all around taking charge of his team and this game.
O'Brien
April 12th, 2010
9:54 pm
Ray, cp,
None of the rational bloggers are saying that Teague deserves to be the starter. Or that he is going to be an all star PG. All we’re saying, is if he was given consistent minutes, then he could be an option on those nights when Bibby is struggling.
Darren Collison did not come in and take charge right away. But once CP3 got hurt and he got consistent minutes, he improved. And we are talking about a guy (Teague) who has been yanked by Woody whenever he made a mistake (earlier in the season), so isn’t it understandable that he gets timid sometimes?
But this late in the season, I am not worried about his minutes. That should have been taken care of earlier in the year. Woody felt more comfortable going with the other guys, thats fine. This summer, Teague needs to work on his jumper, and hopefully by next season he will be playing better, and will force Woody to give him more minutes.
Once again, ZaZa gets more minutes, and he contributes, and Joe looking like he is in playoff form. What sore thumb? And I like our defense tonight. Lets finish strong, and hopefully, no scoring droughts in the fourth.
How about them Braves? Losing 17-2. Wow.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
9:55 pm
joBjo ,
Careful. You didn’t see that, and that didn’t happen. Stop or they’ll pi$$ test you for drugs.
Meanwhile, Brandon Jennings draws a foul on Teague by stepping on Teague’s foot, then Jennings is forced into a bad shot…er…I mean he missed it because he was busy laughing at Teague’s inept play.
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
9:55 pm
See that good play by teague haters?
HawksFan11
April 12th, 2010
9:55 pm
The ROOK
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
9:56 pm
cmon hawks pay attention
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
9:56 pm
wake up JTO.
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
9:56 pm
uh oh teague is gettin chewed out
Ree Roe
April 12th, 2010
9:56 pm
@ Big Ray,
lol @ you using a 5 game stretch of Teague’s 82 GAME SEASON. Dude is runnin around like a chicken with his head cut off (and I don’t mean that as a compliment). And if Woody felt he was playing so well & your numbers “support” Teague playing well, why would Woody cut his minutes? Hmmm something doesn’t sound right. Defend ya boy. You too cp since you love Teague’s play so far this season
-REEgistered as Roe!!
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
9:58 pm
Big Ray. HUH?
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
9:58 pm
Ree Roe that lil signature u git is hella gay.
Riley:”Man u gay”
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
9:58 pm
*got
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
9:59 pm
Nice bucket by Teague – you just matched your ppg average – you can relax now.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:02 pm
O’brien ,
I agree. It’s hard getting people to understand the difference between wanting to see the guy get more than 9mpg, and wanting him to take Mike Bibby’s job.
Funny that you mention Darren Collison. According to the logic of some….ahhh, nevermind. You said it better than I could have.
I actually railed against Woody’s initial preseason decision to play Teague as little as he has. But I can’t argue with the results. What I have a hard time with is people who ignore this and say that Teague doesn’t play because he can’t play. Funny how this is not what Woody seems to think at all. No, he’s not going to be quoted saying a guy sucks. But he’s also not going to be quoted saying that he feels the kid has the skills (but needs some work), that he feels he can run the team some day, or that he feels he plays fairly well for somebody who doesn’t get a lot of playing time.
I expect a veteran guard to get a decent amount of work done in 5 to 7 minutes. I do NOT expect a rookie pg (particularly the SEVENTH pg picked in the draft that year) to do that if he doesn’t get much game time.
And I can’t ignore what he DID do when he got decent minutes CONSISTENTLY.
I don’t see how that’s any different than talking about JJ airballing two shots in one game while ignoring that he is our best offensive option every night.
J.J.M.
April 12th, 2010
10:02 pm
smh@teague
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
10:02 pm
threeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
10:02 pm
Smokin Joe
HawksFan11
April 12th, 2010
10:03 pm
JJJJJJJooooeeee Johnson
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
10:03 pm
that’s the JJ we need to resign
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
10:04 pm
Joe is havin his best game in a LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG TIME
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
10:04 pm
Bibby looked like he was crip walkin lol
J.J.M.
April 12th, 2010
10:05 pm
lol ref make up call
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:05 pm
Nice double-double for Teague – 2 points – 2 assists !!
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
10:05 pm
Did ya’ll like that great Bibby D.
Wabe
April 12th, 2010
10:05 pm
Yall see JT0 after Woody pulled him?
Kid wouldn’t even look Woody in the face.
Blast
April 12th, 2010
10:05 pm
Al keeps fouling! Guess it’s Zaza to round up the game.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 12th, 2010
10:06 pm
Hawks in 7
cp
April 12th, 2010
10:06 pm
Teague played some nice d on Jennings. Bibby has gone cold since the first quarter and yep he just gave up an and 1
J.J.M.
April 12th, 2010
10:06 pm
i dont understand why bibby fouls him and josh is right there
terrell
April 12th, 2010
10:06 pm
Has Bibby done ANYTHING since the 1st qtr???? Why take Teague out?
Ree Roe
April 12th, 2010
10:06 pm
lol @ BONEY. 1 basket & Teague has got the Internet goin nuts!
*and the inevitable 4th Q collapse begins now…SMH.
Glad Teague got taken out
-REEctify it Roe!!
Jody
April 12th, 2010
10:06 pm
The Hawks can’t afford to give this one away!
J.J.M.
April 12th, 2010
10:07 pm
hawks will sweep this team…people forgetting crawford is not playing tonight in a 7 game series hawks should sweep them
HawksFan11
April 12th, 2010
10:07 pm
What I don’t understand is is he’s going to foul, why let him get the shot off.
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
10:08 pm
Woody don’t like to be ignored. JTO
Greg
April 12th, 2010
10:08 pm
Bibby couldn’t guard my grandmother.
N-Trigue
April 12th, 2010
10:08 pm
Bibby can’t check Jenning put teague back in!!
Jody
April 12th, 2010
10:08 pm
Folks should be pating Teague on the back. Yeah he made some mistakes, but the young man gave the Hawks some good minutes. It’s a crime shame some folks want to rag on him considering the fact that they’ll go out of there way to pat Marvin on the back for a 7 point 3 rebound game.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 12th, 2010
10:08 pm
he was tryin to ease away from Woodson..lookin off to the side….and woody pulled him back towards him@Wabe
Woodson The Soul Killer
cp
April 12th, 2010
10:09 pm
Ree Roe you’re the same guy who blamed the rook for the interior defense getting absolutely murdered a few games ago. I’m sorry but i cant even take you serious.
Wabe
April 12th, 2010
10:09 pm
Half the minutes, just as many assist.
J.J.M.
April 12th, 2010
10:10 pm
bench horford
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:10 pm
Ree Roe ,
Okay, I’ll try this again, since you asked. I used the 5 game stretch (which you probably have no idea what I’m talking about, despite posting it several times) to illustrate how well Teague did when he consistently got 20 mpg. The concept of consistent minutes relating to consistent play just can’t be that hard, can it? As for why Woody cut his minutes, why don’t you tell me?
Or better yet, take the easy answer I already gave you: Woody said….and I can’t believe I have to repeat this AGAIN…that he intended to bring Teague along SLOWLY.
I was glad to see that Teague did so well over that stretch of games, the ONLY stretch in the ENTIRE 82 game season in which he got consistent minutes. Believe it or not, that DOES affect a young player’s ability to progress and perform. It even affects veterans.
BUT….I also recognized that Woody chose to go with his veteran pg, and that was the right way to get to 51 games. I argued over Woody’s PRESEASON BASED decision. I have sense seen the wisdom in it. Instead of sacrificing the team’s progress by overplaying a rookie for the sake of grooming and developing him, Woody went with his vets and let the rook get a bit of playing time here and there, and more when the team either was missing a guard (like Bibby) or the game was well in hand. A few times, like tonight, Woody let Teague get in there when the pressure was up, so he could feel what it was like.
But he always maintained that he would not “throw him to the Wolves.”
I don’t know how many more ways to say it, but Teague doesn’t play because he simply sucks. Woody didn’t want it this way. If you don’t believe that, take it up with Woody. He said it himself, so go argue with HIM.
N-Trigue
April 12th, 2010
10:10 pm
Put zaza baqck in too we need his tuffness this game!
J.J.M.
April 12th, 2010
10:10 pm
big ray nobody will read all that
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
10:11 pm
late in the game and nobody wants to shoot. cept Marvin.
N-Trigue
April 12th, 2010
10:11 pm
Put zaza back in too we need his tuffness this game!
Blast
April 12th, 2010
10:11 pm
AL should have shot that ball right away.
Go, Marvin!
cp
April 12th, 2010
10:11 pm
Jody your post makes too much sense. Let these guys tell it the rook was supposed to go for 20 tonight. The Bucks are now down two and the Rook is not even in the game. Lets see how Ree Roe puts the blame on the rook although he is not in the game
J.J.M.
April 12th, 2010
10:12 pm
lmao a cross over by bibby
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
10:12 pm
Big Al stayed with it. good hustle.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:12 pm
So Teague is out of the game, and the lead has dwindled even more. I wonder how we’ll explain THIS or all the 4th quarter collapses that have happened without him?
In the meantime, we see how a REAL rookie pg does it. You’re 2 for 11 in a close game, so you ignore your teammates and shoot a 3.
Wonder who feels better about their pg for the playoffs? Mike Woodson with Bibby, or Scott Skiles with Jennings?
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
10:12 pm
horford MVP!
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:12 pm
Nice execution by Bibby / Horford – I hope Teague took note.
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
10:13 pm
except for that last pass
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:13 pm
Mike Bibby, the vet, keeps getting the ball to guys like Joe and Big Al for buckets down the stretch.
“Take charge” rookies like Brandon Jennings ignore John Salmons (best guard they’ve had since Michael Redd was healthy) and take shots outside the arc.
Now what would happen if Teague did that?
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
10:14 pm
Marvin to the rescue.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 12th, 2010
10:14 pm
wow I cant believe Marvin just stopped on a dime like that to save the ball from goin back court.
cp
April 12th, 2010
10:14 pm
Good play Marvin. This is like the third game in a row where Bibby has a good first quarter and does nothing the rest of the game.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:15 pm
Nique’s revenge ,
Horford will be big in the playoffs. We need to remember what he can get done against lineups like this. He will be a solid third or fourth option on offense, I think. And I don’t just mean scoring. Just putting the ball in his hands. He can pass pretty dang good.
J.J.M.
April 12th, 2010
10:15 pm
lol@mac i bet his eyes got wide
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:16 pm
I think the energy of other guys is rubbing off on Marvin. He’s been making plays as well. We might even see an “And 1″ out of him.
cp
April 12th, 2010
10:16 pm
lol at mac town. Marvin has showed up tonight. Hopefully he remembers to do that in the playoffs.
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
10:16 pm
marvin actually has 14 pts! wow I wasn’t expecting that
Jody
April 12th, 2010
10:16 pm
Exactly cp. Folks need to take all of their biases toward or against certain players and throw it out the window. When you don’t look at the game objectively, you’re going to sound really silly when you try to make informed (or not) points.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 12th, 2010
10:16 pm
lol@I thought he was goin to trip over an invisible rope again. He’s lookin ok tonight though, must have switched energy drinks
drmaryb
April 12th, 2010
10:16 pm
Crunch – Time! No more 4th qrtr pattie-melts!!!!!
This is the Play Offs Maane!
Another L eVEL! Seems like All teams got bored down the stretch!
That’s O V E R now!
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:16 pm
But the guy the Bucks really can’t handle is Joe Johnson.
He’s a straight killa right now. And he will be all series long. Love it!
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:17 pm
Ree has a point – Jeff Teague has a +/- of -9 when he’s in the game — Bibby is + 15
J.J.M.
April 12th, 2010
10:17 pm
smh come on marvin
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
10:17 pm
Marvin’s butt got a offensive foul
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
10:18 pm
dam Marvin. get your butt off your shoulders.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 12th, 2010
10:18 pm
I hope we face this team in the 1st round though, they are lost in the post. lmfao no way Kurt Thomas is goin to get the job done.
drmaryb
April 12th, 2010
10:18 pm
Hawks put that SPIRIT hawk on the plane to Milwaukee?
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:18 pm
Jody ,
So true. Thanks for bringing the common sense.
Meanwhile, looks like even Woody is having a bit of fun on teh sideline.
Salmons will continue to be a problem for us. If we don’t find ways to defend him on the perimeter, then he’s going to keep our PF and C in foul trouble.
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
10:19 pm
Bibb cleaning the boards.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:19 pm
drmaryb ,
I hope they did. I’d let it loose on all those Bucks fans who keep playing around with those noise makers.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
April 12th, 2010
10:19 pm
Salmons = their only hope
HawksFan11
April 12th, 2010
10:19 pm
See you at Phillips this weekend
Blast
April 12th, 2010
10:20 pm
Despite the non calls by refs, Hawks are going to prevail.
J.J.M.
April 12th, 2010
10:20 pm
yea salmons is their only consistent player. Jennings will have to step it up
cp
April 12th, 2010
10:21 pm
Brandon Jennings might have the worst shot selection in the NBA.
Jody
April 12th, 2010
10:21 pm
Big Ray,
Salmons is a really nice player and if he’s a free agent after the year, I would love for the Hawks to find a way to go after him.
HawksFan11
April 12th, 2010
10:21 pm
Joe would not be denied tonight and the rest of the team just fed off of his leadership.
GO HAWKS!
J.J.M.
April 12th, 2010
10:23 pm
only thing i like about salmons over joe is that salmons drives the ball a little more
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
10:23 pm
jj’s shoes remind me of mookie’s moonshoes circa 1995
cp
April 12th, 2010
10:23 pm
BONEY, Bibby had a minus of that just the other game sooooo whats you’re point? And what exactly has Bibby done since the first quarter?. Life is a lot easier as a pg when you are playing with guys like Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, and Horford and not guys like Joe Smith.
drmaryb
April 12th, 2010
10:24 pm
Snakes on a Plane
Did the Hawks put that SPIRIT Hawk on the plane to Milwaukee?
Blast
April 12th, 2010
10:24 pm
Sweet win!
Love Joe’s play tonight!
cp
April 12th, 2010
10:24 pm
Did Skiles forget he had Stackhouse on the bench?
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:25 pm
Kurt Thomas can use his toughness and veteran wiles in the paint, but it should be all but a physical impossibility for the Bucks to stop us in the paint.
The only way we lose that type of battle is through lack of effort/desire.
Nique's Revenge
April 12th, 2010
10:25 pm
that’s one ugly azz goatee
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:26 pm
Jody ,
Hard to argue that one. Some might prefer him to Crawford. He plays better “D”, I know that….lol…
Ree Roe
April 12th, 2010
10:26 pm
@ Big Ray,
you’re the resident Teague defender. Why would Woody give the rookie extended minutes, watch him play well & then decrease his minutes? I kno you LOVE to use that 5 game stretch to justify Teague being something more than what he is, but I just find it odd that YOU can’t fancy a reason why his minutes would go down. Especially if Woody is as high on him as we’ve been led to believe.
I guess when you have to use 77 games as opposed to your 5 game sample the conclusion you MIGHT reach is that the Rook AINT READY & shouldn’t see the court. If Woody only gives you 5 mins it’s probably for a reason. He’s not gonna not play a player he really likes even if the plan was to bring him along slowly.
@ cp, stop lying.
-pREEview of Roe!!!
Blast
April 12th, 2010
10:27 pm
Salmon is one ugly dude. With that beard, he looks like a mid eastern terrorist.
joBjo
April 12th, 2010
10:27 pm
Hawks played some D tonite.
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:27 pm
cp,
Nice all around game by Bibby tonight . . .
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
10:27 pm
good game
terrell
April 12th, 2010
10:27 pm
Decent game from Marvin tonight.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:28 pm
Win #52 !
Good job by Woody, good job by the team.
Go Hawks!
cp
April 12th, 2010
10:28 pm
Good win. The Bucks are a good team even without Bogut. They really have to get Brandon Jennings to take better shots. He really hurt them tonight.
VenomSpitter
April 12th, 2010
10:29 pm
Once again Ree Roes Signatures are gay as hell
cp
April 12th, 2010
10:31 pm
Bibby was hot the first quarter other than that he didn’t do much but if you say so. Roe nobody is lying . Its funny how you disappeared after the Bucks made a run on the starters. I guess you don’t know in the NBA teams make runs regardless of who is on the floor. The funny part is you blamed Teague earlier yet the Hawks were still winning the game. The team did not give up the lead so I still dont know what the blame was for.
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:32 pm
52 wins! Way to make a statement on the road – and they still want to fire Woody. Go figure.
drmaryb
April 12th, 2010
10:33 pm
Blue-Ray
(Picture Perfect)
Marvin played Spirited game (no pun intended ) BUTTT (no pun there) He got HOT!
Were gonna need that every night in the play off!
His game is so streaky? I’m gonna call him FLASH Gordon. Can’t call him FLASH – Shaq gave that name to
DWade! LOL!
52 WINS!
Great Job Coach ! Staff! Athletic Trainer! Jamal “JQuick / JCross cheering from the bench!
The Owners & Spirit Group (sans belkin)!
Great Job! Thank GOD for our health!
pinoy hawk
April 12th, 2010
10:33 pm
cp, the hawks offense doesn’t allow pgs to control the flow of the game. usually its the sg (jj or jc) that controls the tempo of the game. don’t blame bibby or teague, blame woodson for being a one-dimensional arrogant potatohead!
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:35 pm
cp,
Bibby didn’t have to do much after the 1st quarter as Joe took over from there.
drmaryb
April 12th, 2010
10:35 pm
Marvin speaks very inteligently.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:35 pm
Ree Roe ,
I can’t help your ability to see either the big picture or the small details. I was also the resident Josh Smith defender for the last few years, and people just like you were saying the same things about him before he finally began to mature. That was a painful 5 years. Pardon me if I see more in him than you do. Never once did I refuse to acknowledge his weaknesses.
Fancy the idea that YOU can’t fathom his minutes going up. What did he do to deserve that 5 game stretch of 20 mpg? Surely if he sucks that bad, Woody must have been crazy to play him over anybody on the team, right? It must take those other 77 games where his minutes were up one game, then down the next to justify your position. In fact, why would Woody give him 12-15 minutes in one game after giving him just 2 minutes (or a DNP) the night before. I’ll wait while you try and explain the ever so odd increases in minutes from game to game. It should be easy. You already have the decreases figured out….right?
kwooden1
April 12th, 2010
10:36 pm
GREAT WIN!, I really didn’t want to loses this game, especially if we end up playing the Bucks in the Playoffs. I don’t no what the tight breaker is with Miami, but if we win out and Miami wins out we play the Bucks. That is the scenario I’ve been hoping for because I would much rather play Milwaukee than Miami. I think Miami would actually rather play the Celtics than us, because they realize if we’re making outside shots they have little chance of winning. The Celtics play a similar style to them, so they should be in every game.
GO HAWKS!!
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:36 pm
CP ,
He doesn’t like it when the facts smack him in the mouth. I should have guessed by the tag line which I used to find funny.
About 4,297 posts ago, that is….
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:36 pm
“blame woodson for being a one-dimensional arrogant potatohead!”
Blame Woody for the 52 wins as well !!
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:37 pm
drmaryb ,
I ain’t tryin’ to ignore you gal, I’m just caught up in blog trash talk.
I’d love some consistency out of Marvin these days, but I am certainly not going to begrudge him some praise when he is playing well. And we needed what we got from him, especially with Jamal out.
BONE
April 12th, 2010
10:40 pm
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL MILKY SUCKS, MIAMI SUCKS, BUT SO DO HAWKS
Ree Roe
April 12th, 2010
10:40 pm
Very proud of the effort tonight. We actually executed in the 4th, got great work from ZaZa & Mo, Marvin was solid & Joe was great. Glad to see Woody stick with what was working…well coached Woody. Good to see northcyde & BONEY are on the right side of the Teague debate
-REEligiously Roe!!!
BONE
April 12th, 2010
10:41 pm
LOL @PHONEY BONEY
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:41 pm
Post game, Mike Woodson on Jeff Teague:
” Rook came in and controlled the game a little bit. He made a few mistakes, but most of them were because guys weren’t ready to deliver the ball when he was making moves and getting open.”
I’m sure we can find a language to translate that into “Teague Sucks”. Some people will…
Boy George
April 12th, 2010
10:41 pm
I like Ree Roe’s signatures – does that mean I’m gay?
BONEY= REE ROE
April 12th, 2010
10:41 pm
SHOULD BE OBVIOUS
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:44 pm
BONEY isn’t REE ROE – sorry to dissapoint you . . .
Section 303
April 12th, 2010
10:45 pm
Great win…gladly eat my words on this one!
Give a nod to Woody, though I know that might actually kill some of you. 52-wins!
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:45 pm
Hate it when Woody makes quotes like that. Makes some people look incredibly ignorant, regardless of their own herculean attempts.
Anyway, loved that win. I can only imagine how hard we’ll be on the Bucks when Crawford is around. Also, so glad to see Josh Smith wasn’t injured seriously when he was hit in his thigh earlier. That one had me worried.
Joe was a straight beast. That’s the aggressive Joe you want to see. That’s the one who will terrorize the East in the playoffs.
cp
April 12th, 2010
10:47 pm
Lol yea Ray I have noticed that. It is what it is. Im glad Pachulia has finally got on a roll. He was really struggling this season but it seems he has found his game. I read about Mo likely opting out, I really hope we bring him back. When he gets the minutes he produces.
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:47 pm
Translation – Teague sucked tonight but it wasn’t all his fault.
Sorry Big Ray !!
BONEY=REE ROE=NORTHCYDE
April 12th, 2010
10:47 pm
DONT LIE TO YASELF
BONE
April 12th, 2010
10:49 pm
GOOD THING IS WE WON W.O JAMAAL………..AND DID YALL SEE JAMAAL BEING A LEBRON LIKE TEAMATE? ON THE SIDELINE PUMPIN HIS TEAMATES UP LIKE A LEADER SHOULD
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:50 pm
BONEY is the one and only – accept no imitators !!
Now, who are you with all the fake screen names? Come forward !!
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:51 pm
cp ,
I hope we bring Mo back as well. But, guys go where they want to go. If he can get a better gig or more money, I can’t fault him. But we need an impact player like that off the bench, so I hope we either get a good replacement or re-sign him.
Tell me that phoney clown using another guy’s name is not trying to bait me. Arguing with an idiot is useless. They take you down to their level and then beat you with experience…..
pinoy hawk
April 12th, 2010
10:51 pm
boney, the hawks could have won more games if woody tried to “intelligently coach” on every regular season game! peace!
Grandad
April 12th, 2010
10:51 pm
Ree Roe
If Big Ray is the resident Teague dedender, then can I be 2nd chair?
Wabe:
I noticed the same thing. Teaguer looked like he was trying to pull away. Wdsn pretending like he’s coaching him up.
Great win I thought Zaza looked good, boxing out, making hustle plays.
The def. won the game.
Kudos to Wdsn. [see I don't hate the guy]
The hawks can be as good as they decide they want to be!
JeJe
April 12th, 2010
10:51 pm
Anyone else see Woody trying to talk to Teague when he took him out with 6 min left and Teague looking like he was about to cry?
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:52 pm
BONE,
You should have said, “ON THE SIDELINE PUMPIN HIS TEAMATES UP LIKE A CHEERLEADER SHOULD . . . whatever, the last man on the bench can do the same thing – go back to sleep.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:53 pm
BONEY is the one and only – accept no imitators !!
Now, who are you with all the fake screen names? Come forward !!
Okay, not that is funny.
If I had to guess, there is a pot trying to call a kettle black….just as soon as it can identify the kettle, that is…..what a hot mess…. 
I’m staying out of this one.
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:54 pm
JeJe.
Woody was only trying to congratulate Teague for his double-double tonight!
BONEY=FAKE BALONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:54 pm
STOP FAKING IT YOU FONEY. THERE IS NO BONEY ONLY FONEY BONE.
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:55 pm
Big Ray,
What is there to identify? I’ve used the same name all evening – what’s the problem?
BONEY=FAKE BALONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:55 pm
JEJE AND BONEY BOTH HAVE SAME CLASS IN HS
Ree Roe
April 12th, 2010
10:57 pm
@ Big Ray,
You refuse to even venture a GUESS as to why Teague plays so few minutes now. Maybe it’s b/c the Rook aint ready. So here comes the predictable & tired Ray Ray response:
Me: if Woody liked him why doesn’t he play more?
Ray Ray: “Oh well umm he had a 5 game stretch where he looked like a STAR!!! See that’s my proof! I kno I picked an arbitrary 5 games but hey leave Teague alone! I dunno why Woody doesn’t not play Teague. I thought he loveded him so much.”
Me: SMH
Hawks STILL need a backup PG
-i REEk of Roe!!!
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
10:57 pm
Grandad ,
Room on the wagon, sir. We crazy people have to stick together.
BONEY ,
I don’t have a problem with you. I’m laughing at you. I don’t care what name you use, bruh.
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:57 pm
This bozo has the nerve to call somebody phony – he uses a different name with each post! Hilarious !!
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
10:59 pm
That’s cool Big Ray – just putting my 2 cents in. How that makes me phony, who knows?
cp
April 12th, 2010
11:00 pm
Ehh that was very corny
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
11:02 pm
cp,
What was very corny?
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
11:05 pm
pinoy hawk,
On the flip side . . .
The hawks could have LOST more games if woody didn’t “intelligently coach” on every regular season game! peace!
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
11:07 pm
Ree Roe ,
I don’t like liars. I never said Teague looked or played like a star. I said several times that his stats in that stretch were comparable to those of Ty Lawson, a guy YOU brought up to try and compare to Teague. Sorry, but if you compare guys, you have to compare every detail/stat. Lawson gets 20 mpg. So, I found one stretch during the season where Teague got as many minutes per game as Lawson does. Wonder of wonders, they had near identical stats, with Teague having better assists. Yes, Teague’s shot needs some work. Jason Kidd had a crappy shot when he came into the league. So did Brevin Knight. So did Craig Claxton. Brandon Jennings is shooting 37% from the field. Guess what? That’s no better than Teague, and Jennings is a starter from Day One. How do you explain that one? What, Jennings gets more points and assists? What would happen if that crappy shooting of his got his minutes cut down to 9 a game? I could tell you, but you’d only ignore me. And NO, I’m not saying Teague is as good as Jennings. Clearly he’s not. Funny thing is, Jennings couldn’t score much on Teague when he was in the game….
What you can’t stand is that I have a valid point, and that it disagrees with your opinion. Keeping twisting and turning what I say. In the meantime, explain to me why Woody gave Teague the minutes he got. Explain to me why Woody gave Teague more than 5 minutes in ANY game. Can you? I’ll wait.
Meanwhile, my explanation for Teague’s minutes, as stated by Woody itself, stands. No matter how many times you twist my words into lies. You simply don’t play a rookie pg on a team that wants to win 50+ games and win it’s division, when you have a veteran pg, and two high scoring veteran shooting guards.
I think Woody made the right decision to limit Teague’s minutes, and it wouldn’t matter if he was hitting 50% of his shots. There is no substitute for experience unless a rookie is also a superstar. Guess what? I’ve never said or even thought Teague was a superstar. I only wanted to see him get 15 mpg.
So enough with the twisting of words.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
11:09 pm
If bad shooting was all it took to bench a guy, Brandon Jennings should be glued to the bench, and Luke Ridnour should play 35 mpg. According to that logic, Scott Skiles is an utter fool. Don’t you hate it when your own logic bites you in the a$$?
BONEY ,
Stick around long enough, and people will call you more interesting things. Well maybe not you . But guys like me who don’t give in easily (especially if we have a valid point), are a different matter. LOL
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
11:09 pm
Ok – raise you hand if you thought the Hawks would have more wins than Boston and the same total as Denver, Utah, and Phoenix.
. . . and still, they want to fire the coach
UGA
April 12th, 2010
11:12 pm
We control our own destiny for the 3rd seed. If it comes to the last game, if the Cavs beat us, they could play us round 2. IF they lose to us, they could get Boston who split with them 2-2.
I’m looking for LeBron and Shaq to play Wednesday. Hopefully the Bulls win tomorrow and we don’t have to worry about it.
BONEY
April 12th, 2010
11:14 pm
It’s all good, Ray – I’ve learned when they can’t beat you intellectually, they resort to name-calling. Whatever makes them feel better, I guess.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
11:18 pm
Ree Roe ,
You refuse to even venture a GUESS as to why Teague plays so few minutes now. Maybe it’s b/c the Rook aint ready.
Maybe it never occurred to you that I’m not arguing this point one bit. What I’m saying is that Woody looked at Teague back in training camp and decided that this was so. YOU are saying that Teague has proven over the course of the season that he is not ready. I’m trying (really hard, mind you) that Woody made this decision a long time ago, before Teague even played his first regular season game.
Why play a rookie big minutes (25-30+) every game in a season where you are trying to win your division, unless said rookie has proven to be a superstar? Why think a rookie is a superstar if he wasn’t a lottery pick (Teague was the #19 pick, as I recall). Rookie pgs do NOT get you deep into the playoffs. Even Chris Paul couldn’t do it, and he was one of the best rookie pgs to come into the league since Jason Kidd. Do you think Brandon Jennings will get the Bucks past us and into the 2nd round of the playoffs? I’ll bet you two things: 1) He won’t, and 2) Luke Ridnour will see some serious minutes (probably more than the 21.4 mpg he plays now) in the playoffs against us.
Hawks need a backup pg
They needed one last year, too. But Woody likes going with the scoring guard that backs up his two starting guards. Jamal ain’t a pg. Flip ain’t a pg. We haven’t had a backup pg since the last time Speedy Claxton managed to stay healthy longer than 5 minutes.
And now I will say the deplorable, evil, nastiest thing in the world.
Draft Deron Williams or CP3 instead of you-know-who, and we aren’t even having this conversation. End of story.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
11:21 pm
BONEY ,
That’s how it goes sometimes.
I tell you what, Woody deserves the chance to prove that he can can’t get us past the 2nd round of the playoffs. To do that, you have to give him a few tries at it. Maybe several. This is Woody (and the team’s) first realistic crack at the 2nd round of the playoffs. Last year was what it was: less talent and a bundle of injuries.
This year is more talent and better health, but still not all the roster could be.
I don’t want Woody to fail. His failure is the team’s failure. They are irretrievably linked.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
11:23 pm
And I have to admit…..I didn’t know if we’d outwin Boston (though I said this was our absolute best chance to break into the top 3 of the East), or match Denver and Utah.
Funny thing is….I didn’t see Phoenix doing as well as they have.
Big Ray
April 12th, 2010
11:23 pm
And with that, I’m out. I’ll let Ree Roe chew on the last few paragraphs if it’s not past his bedtime.
checkmate
April 12th, 2010
11:31 pm
Don’t you love to see a guy trying to win a debate but his own logic is used to kill any argument he had lol. How can one try to make a point yet his logic is the total opposite of what he is arguing for. People bring your A game. You cant rely on silly jokes and the twisting of words against facts. In all honesty the only person on the bench who had consistent minutes all year was Jamal Crawford. So that’s another dagger in that silly argument about minutes. Certainly all the guys on the bench cant be bad. Mo Evans said last week the reason he was playing so well is because he was finally getting consistent minutes. Who knew that all a player had to do to play well was get consistent minutes. Yea I think we can call this one checkmate. Ray has pretty much ripped apart this debate. Maybe next time youngster.
Grandad
April 12th, 2010
11:41 pm
Mr. Boney: (sir)
I said last evening that we are about where I thought we would be and
if you are relating that to the fact of whether or not I preferred a new coach then as opposed to now then the answer is yes & yes just as it was & is.
As all of this relates to young Mr. Teague, it has a direct correlation
upon the current & future success as well as the prospectus in the play-offs as it pertains to our overall depth not to mention our depth @ pt. guard and the ability to defend quickness.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 12th, 2010
11:48 pm
To SWAT Native: huge thanks for the bargain hunter link dude, you probably saved me like $100. Got me playoff tix for games 1 and 2.