Hawks squawks: Hawks 107, Raptors 101

Greetings-

Ken Sugiura sitting in for MC. Mike will be back at you Saturday from Washington.

Hawks are at home, hence, they win. Punch in, punch out. Given the way they floundered in Detroit, I wasn’t so sure of their chances tonight against Toronto.

But they took it, thanks in no small part to a huge second quarter. Jamal was his electric self, nailing 4 of 5 3-pointers and scoring 15 points. Said Al Horford, “I would say Jamal Crawford happened.”

- Credit also Zaza Pachulia, exceptional ball movement and good work on the glass. Of the Hawks’ 15 baskets in the quarter, 10 were off assists, and they had 13 second-chance points. The Hawks missed 11 shots in the quarter and had seven offensive rebounds.

Raps coach Jay Triano: “We just didn’t box out, and that was really our downfall.”

- Much of the rest of the game wasn’t much to look at. In the other three quarters, the Hawks shot 21 for 62 (33.9 percent), including 2 for 16 from 3-point range. I’m not quite sure what to make of it. I guess it depends on where you lie on the Woody COY/Fire Woody spectrum, I suppose.

Coach Triano?

“The positive is we beat them in three other quarters. We just became too relaxed in the second quarter. Other than that, I think we played pretty hard and fairly well.”

Coach Woodson?

“We were somewhat flat (in the first quarter), but we’ve had games like that. Guys came in off the bench and picked us up and got us back in the game, and we were able to play Hawk basketball. I thought that second quarter was as good a second quarter as we’ve played all season.”

- Perhaps worth considering. It is certainly worth asking, “How can a team trying to gear up for the playoffs come out and play like that in the first quarter?” But I imagine fans of the Celtics, who lost at home to Washington Friday night, are saying something quite similar, only in a funny accent. It doesn’t justify it, but just know you’re hardly alone. I imagine you can find a band of “Doc Rivers must go!” bloggers up in Boston, as well.

- Strong game for Mo Evans, I thought, though he missed some shots he ought to make.

- Joe Johnson looked O.K. to me with the sprained thumb. I saw him grimacing early in the game when he took a foul, but he seemed to find his flow. For what it’s worth, Woody said he limited his minutes because he was getting back after three games out.

- Raptors, 54 points in the paint. Yikes.

- One prediction – Elias Sports Bureau, source of those random stats you hear on ESPN that I confess I love (Al Horford has 10 double-doubles this season in Wednesday road games…) will offer some sort of statistic on the Hawks’ concurrent 11-game home winning streak and six-game road losing streak. It’s a puzzler. We’ll let MC deal with that one tomorrow.

- And let’s not forget – 50 wins. I hope you’re enjoying it, Hawks fans, because it’s no small achievement.

85 comments Add your comment

JeJe

April 10th, 2010
12:13 am

How the hell did Teague only play 4 minutes in a blowout?

FIRE WOODY. He will never develop young players.

NO, he did NOT develop Smoove…Smoove played a TON of minutes and worked with Hakeem over summers (Calvin Murphy too)…What other young players has Woody developed?

Hawk n the Ham

April 10th, 2010
12:17 am

Shave those eyebrows Woody, we’re going to the playoffs!!!!

rusty

April 10th, 2010
12:18 am

fire woody thisteam wii be better with any other coach

JeJe

April 10th, 2010
12:27 am

50 WINS!

GREAT!

JUST GIVE US THE CHAMPIONSHIP ALREADY?

BLATCHE WILL HAVE 35 TOMORROW

FIRE WOODY

chocochip

April 10th, 2010
12:34 am

EJ EJ ERIF

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Benjamin

April 10th, 2010
1:11 am

Six points isn’t a blowout, and 50 wins is a milestone. I’m no Woodson fan myself, but the people on this board who scream “Fire Woody” really do need to step back and look at the fact that this team has improved exponentially every season since he was named our coach. Most fans would be greatly pleased with that.

Ken Strickland

April 10th, 2010
1:16 am

Without the outstanding play of JCrawford throughout this season, this team wouldn’t be able to match last yrs win total, let alone win 50gms. We barely won our 1st rd series against Miami last yr, and not only have they become a better team overall, they’re playing much better down the stretch as well. They’ve also handled us pretty good this season.

The way they’re playing, compared to the way we’ve stumbled down the stretch, I don’t see us getting out of the 1st rd. I just don’t see Woodson suddenly becoming smart enough to figure out how to deal with things during the playoffs that he hasn’t been able to figure out during the entire regular season. What is he going to do against the certain zone DEF’s we’ll face, or teams taking advantage of Bibby and our switching DEF? Even in tonight’s gm, the Raptors made a last min comeback by taking turns exploiting Horford, Smoove and Zaza with their guards, and going inside our guards with their Bigs. All Woodson did was call a couple of timeouts, but he didn’t make a single DEF adjustment.

Woodson simply doesn’t have the ability, nor the inclination, to help his team out of situations by utilizing strategies or providing alternatives to what teams are successfully doing against us. He simply stands on the sidelines and waits for the players to self correct, which is why we see them resort to ISO’s and one on one play. That’s also why we consistently struggle to close out gms, both offensively and defensively.

Mike Woodson

April 10th, 2010
1:23 am

I’d play Rook more but he still don’t understand how the **** works..

Darren Collison

April 10th, 2010
1:50 am

Someone tell Rick Sund THANK YOU for not drafting me! GO BRUINS!!

sam'l

April 10th, 2010
2:08 am

Here is a perfect example of the schizo Hawks. 45 points in one quarter. Nobody does that without some awesome talent. Throughout the game that would be 180 points and teams just normall don’t do that.

Can we take solace in a 45-point quarter knowing it could happen anytime, anywhere?

Bucks win, Heat loses….why do I feel we are destined to face Miami anyway?

Grandad

April 10th, 2010
4:23 am

Benjamin: *MUST READ for ALL* (or not) *[drivel for DawgNole]*

I understand that exponential improvement includes a more shallow
increase each year. But you must understand expectations do not rise concurrently with the decreasing wins as the curve flattens.
Another factor is the narrow window of opportunity this team has in terms of competitive greatness due primarily to player ageing plus
multiple other factors.
Therefore, Mr. Woodson has had a more than adequate sample of work,
in order to prove his mettle. Mr. Sund will make the call but would you gamble, if you were Mr. Sund, on Wdsn having the requisite characteristics to be a champion.
To this point, he has not. Proving he can bring a team along slowly
showing incremental improvement in a competitive multi-million dollar
world, is not a safe bet.
This team, with this core, has a five year window, max. We can bandy this about all day long but now, it’s down to nut-cuttin’* time.
*My apologies to all the ladies [drmaryb] & some men.[crude language]
To borrow & adapt an analogy from Bill Simmons:
If you had to play a [7] game series that determined the fate of the free world. The current Hawks were our team, chosen to save society as
we know it, would you want ‘Woody’ coaching the team?
Overstating the case, abso-dang-lutely, but you see my point.
Honestly, I’d rather have Ken Strickland/Sautee/& Big Ray out there
savin’ our hides, with ‘drmaryb’ cheerleadin’.
To top it all…if everything is ridin’ on one series, I would sure as heck have ‘Truth Serum’ keeping score! [providing he's on our side]
Dang, now I’ve got carpal tunnel syndrome on top of everything else.
Good evening all.

Big Ray

April 10th, 2010
5:57 am

LOL@ Grandad.

And now night shift is over, time to go home.

ltdbrave

April 10th, 2010
6:19 am

Fired Woody and trade Williams. Neither has done a thing for the team. Teague will end up wasting away. The kid gets no time to develop his game skills in real time situations.

drmaryb

April 10th, 2010
7:36 am

drmaryb

April 10th, 2010
12:16 am

Poor Dumb Azz – Rusty,

The NBA is ORGANIZED Basketball. That means You have a Game Plan!
(If your 6th Man starts? Who’s the first player off the bench?)

Jamal Crawford is not “Hot-Sauce!”. This is not the AND – 1 League!

I saw a really, really – short yellow school bus today, at first I thought it was the high Pollen Count in GA. Then, I realized it was your dumb azz mamma driving you to school on a YUGO!

Her feet were flying on the pavement, You were screaming , “Yabba Dabba Doo!”. “Faster -Mom- Faster, we’re Gonna be late.” Funny thing was – it was on a Sunday & People who go to school on Sunday – well, They have no CLASS!

Now take your dumb-azz to sleep!

[...] Atlanta Journal Constitution – Credit also Zaza Pachulia, exceptional ball movement and good work on the glass. Of the Hawks’ 15 baskets in the quarter, 10 were off assists, and they had 13 second-chance points. The Hawks missed 11 shots in the quarter and had seven offensive rebounds. [...]

bobby

April 10th, 2010
7:54 am

Benjamin, do you know what exponentially means? an exponent is either a sqaure of a number a cubed, so on and so forth. For the Hawks to raise there win total exponentially the would have to at least double there wins each year to the next. That being said, the growth this team has shown is not due to Woody, has been an excruciatingly slow process, and seems to have puttered out. This team has not made the jump to the next level the 3 or 4 seed is not a jump, the Magic and Cavs level is the next step. Playing consistently everynight with Maximum effort. Woody is supposed to be a defensive guru, our defense is awful. Our offense is atrociau at times during the games a true Offensive coach would be a good fit , alas what the mavs did in hiring carlisle, with a def. coordinator like the Celtics and Cavs do with Offensive coordinators. I love the the Hawks, and I have my season tickets, but Woody has taken this team as far as he can, the fact is he makes a really great asst. coach, but is not the leader and voice this team needs. Maybe former Hawk Guard Mo Cheeks? it is proven that the 2nd and 3rd time around nba coaches are better carlisle in Dallas, Gentry in Phoenix just a thought.

bobby

April 10th, 2010
7:56 am

could I have more typos……………..hope people could still read it

Nacho

April 10th, 2010
8:00 am

Woody did not play Teague because Bibby was having such a great game. He was leaving him in at the end of the game hoping that he would get assist number TWO.

Woody does not have the ability to take this team any further in it’s development.

He is out of ideas!

drmaryb

April 10th, 2010
8:03 am

Ken Strickland

“Without the outstanding play of JCrawford throughout this season, this team wouldn’t be able to match last yrs win total, let alone win 50gms.”

That is my point exactly, each year you add players & your team does get better! That’s called building a team, hopefully that can compete for a championship. That’s why we added Crawford this year. (Just stop & listen to yourself sometimes.)

Mr. Woodson, hasn’t had a championship team handed to him at no point since he has been here.
Can you cook a Steak, if all you have are Hot-Dogs, beans & potatoes? Neither, can Mr. Woodson.

He never had a true PG till Billy Knight drafted Bibby for Shelden & that was a parting gift!
How do you manufacture wins without pieces? & How does a Chef prepare a meal without any groceries. You guys really need to wear a Coaches Hat for a minute and see what a real Coach sees, when he looks down that bench.

drmaryb

April 10th, 2010
8:10 am

bobby,

Why not add Doc Rivers to your coaches lists, he was a former Hawk too?
OMG, his team is trailing the HAWKS! Dammitt! Every possible replacement you mentioned have all been fired from their last job, as best I can tell!

Don’t you think Boston wants to fire Doc too? Hell, he just won a championship with his geriatric team! Oh my bad, he has the exact same team, what’s his problem? They’re too damned old to win now.

Grand-Daddy

That’s the real application for the “Five Year Window” That term applies to teams who already have all their pieces to win! Not to teams that are demolished & rebuilt!

This is not the same as the NFL. The NFL can turn it around quickly because of – Parity & Free Agent Markets that are constructed under a “No-Guaranteed Contract System”. Player movement is free flowing in the NFL.

The NBA? Not so much. or Not at all!

drmaryb

April 10th, 2010
8:12 am

Grand-Daddy,

BTW – Mr. Woodson is already a CHAMPION & He has the ring to prove it! He’s just trying to bring that here, so we can know it too! You know, what a cheap champagne bath really feels like?

TigerWoods

April 10th, 2010
8:15 am

i like your little state and you little people down south. i am enjoying myself here, and today and tomorrow i feast on British dudes. Then we go partying.

Leave my buddy Wooden alone. What else do you want you low lifes? i mean he improved the team every year. is that not enough? have you all considered that in corporate world that be considered MVP type performance? you still bitch and talk strategies. Well bottom line profits are up, revenue is up, and the locals are happy.

and don’t give me that tired old argument about incremental improvement about ahh players just getting better. Do any of you little people remember Chils? gone, but Wooden still did not complain and the team record improved. Do you little people remember Murray? He was lost and replaced with Jamal. Did Wooden complain? No, but again record went up.

You all are just spoiled. You want to know what the problem is? Look at every tabloid in the world, it has my picture on it. i mean it is even hard for me to go to a Hotlanta nudie club, and not be pointed at. What is a golfer to do? You think they treat John Daly like that. Nope, he is cool for smoking and drinking, but i have to apologize in front of zillion people.

ok, i best be going get ready to kick some British as… today. Peace out and leave my Wooden friend along.

drmaryb

April 10th, 2010
8:16 am

Nacho

Mr. Woodson is not out of ideas, He’s out of talent. We need more pieces to win it all! Why do you think we were all praying for Big-Z to come here? Is it because we are completely stocked from
1 thru 12. Does our bench look like Cleveland or Orlando to you?

Honest question, I really want to know? Do you think Mario West, Rando Morris, Collins, JT0 are going to take us somewhere? If so, WHERE?

Now go eat your wheaties and stay in school!

Marcus

April 10th, 2010
8:28 am

Like Parcells said a couple of years ago ……..” you are what your record says you are”

We are a 50-win team that is lights out at HOME (DAL meltdown/outcoaching and last minute winning shots included) and below average AWAY.

What does that mean for the playoffs?
Probably a 6 or 7 game 1st round series, coming out on top and then a harsh reality check in the 2nd round.
The irksome thing is …… we have the talent to be better, but seemingly lack the sustained concentration to lay the wood to those teams who should be permanent woodshed residents esp. when:
We have better overall talent: NYK
They have 2-3 starters out: DET (on 3 occasions, with 2 Hawks losses both in DET)
They are basically doing it with duct tape and mirrors by being a D-league outpost due to multiple injuries: GS

drmaryb

April 10th, 2010
8:32 am

Ken-S.

BTW, how exactly do you KNOW what Mr. Woodson, said during a timeout?
Or what strategy he discussed, Offensively or Defensively?
Have you ever stopped to wonder, if the players actually executed the play called?
At what point, in your mind does the player take responsibility for their own performances?

Tell me this, If a parent tells their kid to be home by 10pm & the kid doesn’t show up?
Who’s fault is that? Based on your logic, that would be Mr. Woodson’s fault too!

Parents & Coaches play the same roles: Teach, Discipline & Encourage better performance.
That’s why players who don’t listen or follow instructions ride the bench, when you have experienced
veterans on the team. Until, next year you can replace these players with better players!

e.g. Jason Collins shows up fat & out of shape & uninspired -What do you do with that guy?
Damn right, sit his fat azz on the end of the bench, until next year & replace his azz.

Marcus

April 10th, 2010
8:35 am

drmaryb,
I do want a talent infusion for 2010-2011 via draft and/or free agency (maybe youth for Joe Smith), but there are also some strategy/scheme improvements that might be in order to make that next step.
Like Grandad said, the window of opportunity is small. With the overall youth of the core of the team (Smoove, Marvin, Horford and perhaps a more developed JT0 in the coming seasons), maybe it stays open for a little longer…but seeing a team like OKC lets us know that we can’t get complacent.

Navigator

April 10th, 2010
8:45 am

Woodson may not be the most inspiring coach, but some of the problems are not his fault. The Hawks need a dominant defensive center to close up the middle and force teams to beat them with jump shots. The next thing they need to do is put Lebron James on his butt when he comes crashing down the middle, not obvious, just a resounding not in my paint. He may complain to refs, but guys learn who they can torch and the ones that might put them on the injury list.

Marcus

April 10th, 2010
8:56 am

Checking the pending FA for Summer 2010
Not sure who we need but not a lot excites me..just going by names (not fit for our style) mabye Travis Outlaw or Udonis Haslem.
Would luv Boozer but then it wrecks the starting frontline (what to do with Smoove at the 4 and Horford at the 5)?

http://tinyurl.com/y9mntxh

O'Brien

April 10th, 2010
9:05 am

Ken Strickland,

Miami is winning their games..but its mostly against sub .500 teams. And those are not the teams they will face in the playoffs.

I’m glad for win 50. But hawks need to do better. If they have a 14 pt first quarter in the playoffs, it will be very hard to come back and win, even if we are at home.

Hawks miss a lot of threes too. They were 2-17 in Detroit. And that’s not woodys fault. Guys need to make shots.

But woody needs more flexibility and adjustments. I haven’t seen that from him.

The other Ken S,

If Boston fires doc, I think he would be a good coach for the hawks (assuming ASG can afford him).

Looking forward to the game tonight

JeJe

April 10th, 2010
9:05 am

LOL.

It’s obvious Woodson will resort to his 7.5 man rotation in the playoffs. Unless some player gets 2 fouls in the first 3 minutes of the game, there’s NO way Joe Smith or Teague play more than 4 mpg.

Can anyone disagree with this?

drmaryb

April 10th, 2010
9:05 am

Marcus,

Great points you make. However, kevin Durant is not walking through that door! Milwaukee, had to be really bad to get that #2 pick, not to mention Lucky!

Durant is a super-star! We don’t have that here, those ping-pong balls costed us Dwight Howard too.
Hey, I wonder if Portland wished they had passed on ODEN & had drafted Durant instead.

Anyway, a team like OKC let’s me know that we need a Super-Freak on our team too!
I just heard KOBE’s not leaving LA anytime soon & I doubt LBJ leaves Cleveland.

So, we got to re-sign Joe & pray for some luck. Maybe a dark horse in the draft?

drmaryb

April 10th, 2010
9:22 am

Itdbrave,

If JT0 needs to develop his skills? His azz should have stayed in school. He had a four year free ride to get an education & play collegiate ball. He himself chose to walk away from developing his mind & his fundamental ball skills.

He walked away from an oppty to develop his weak azz game. This is the NBA! Its a grown mans business!
Mr. Woodson was hired to win a championship not give birth to babies & change diapers.

JT0 is no Brandon Jennings, last time I checked. There was a reason he was available @ 19th pick.

drmaryb

April 10th, 2010
9:49 am

OBRIEN

I’m curious, you say Doc would be a great coach here? We offered him a contract beflore Lon Krueger casme here , but he turned us down! All the other So called ELITE coaches laughed at us!

Hubie Brown
Larry Brown
Etc.

So, we got Terry Stotts instead. Remember him & Jet Terry going at it in the papers? I sure do!

Coach Stotts said, “I was not impressed with Jason’s performance last night.”
Jason Terry replied, ” I was not impressed with hos coaching – either!”
Jason Terry was on the next Air-Plane out of here to Dallas, TX. We got
Dallas’s 1st round draft pick the following year & took either Chills or Josh?

Here’s My Point! Nobody of substance & Guile wanted to come here! That is not a COACH & not a PLAYER!

Belkins tried to BLOCK JOE’S deal in a courtroom & JOE still came to this F@#ked up CITY!
We are so fickle to forget that! We are LUCKY that Iso-Joe walked thru that door!

Mr. Woodson took this bull-sh#*t Job & showed up wearing a RING! Yet we complain that he doesn’t know how to WIN? He has already WON! What has Atlanta ever WON? Not a damn thing!

We are NOT a storied franchise that boasts banners & traditions of Winning anything at all!

Why should we hire all these Cioaches that refused to come here. & do the Hard Tme &
Hard Work that Mr. Woodson has done & is doing?

This ownership group has no Money & They hate each other! So, tell me – Who wants to come here?

Don’t be like the INFIDELS! Stop complaining about the small stuff! Enjoy the turn around!

northcyde

April 10th, 2010
9:54 am

drmaryb . . . WOW!!

Keep kicing the knowledge on this blog. LOL . . I made the mistake of peeping this from my phone, after some idiot just woke me up. Now I’m WIDE AWAKE, and feel the need to copy and paste part of what I’ve wrote yesterday on Hawksquawk about this very subject.

People don’t understand that our “window of opportunity” JUST STARTED. And no, we haven’t had the talent here to do jack, until recently.

Damn . . . let me pull up the laptop and toss you an alley-oop.

northcyde

April 10th, 2010
10:06 am

For you Squawkers, this will definitely look familiar. I wrote this the other day:

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It’s easy for people to go off on JJ, because he isn’t Kobe . . . or go off on Woody, because he and others think that Woody is the worst coach in the history of basketball. But if he, or anybody else think that the lack of a superstar and a great coach were the only things keeping us from rapidly improving, he might want to keep reading this post. He might learn a thing or two.

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First off . . we’re not even having this discussion ( referring to the Hawks taking 6 years in the Woody era to win 50 games ), had the Hawks drafted Chris Paul, and not tried to find the next Tracy McGrady ( in Marvin Williams )

I hate to bring that name back up again, but we all know what it is. You team him up with JJ, and an athletic freak like Smoove . . and combine the fact that Paul can also wreak havoc on the defensive end and with his rebounding ability as a guard, and there’s no telling how good the Hawks could’ve been . . even without Horford.

And since we’re on the PG issue, who were the PGs in ATL those first 3.5 years?

- Tyronn Lue
- Anthony Johnson
- Royal Ivey
- Acie Law
- Salim Stoudamire ( who we tried to convert into a PG )
- Speedy Claxton ( the crippled version )

I mean please . . . I’d trade all of those guys, for the 2006 version of Derek Fisher ( a guy that is really a 2 guard in a PGs body, but could shoot and defend well enough at the time to be a key piece on a team )

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How about center in those first 3 years?

- Jason Collier ( R.I.P )
- John Edwards
- Esteban Batista
- Lorenzen Wright
- Zaza Pachulia
- Shelden Williams

LOL . . . please again. Zaza is far and away the best center out of that group.

Zaza?

And even he was so inconsistent at times, that Woody had to resort to starting Lorenzen at center, even playing Smoove at center on some occasions. Shelden was supposed to be the Ben Wallace clone for us, but he ended up playing more like George Wallace the comedian ( youtube George Wallace, if you don’t know who that is )

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Our best low post scorer in those first 3 years? . . . Al Harrington ( and only for one year )

Our best passer? . . . Joe Johnson

Our #2 scoring option? . . . Harrington . . but after he left . . no one

Our best overall defender? . . . Joe Johnson ( would guard 4 positions back in those days, from PG to PF )

Our best sharpshooter? . . . not Joe Johnson, but Tyronn Lue ( even if he did pound the ball for 20 seconds . . . I guess Lue was the Godfather of ISO basketball in the Woody era )

Our best rebounder? . . . not Josh Smith, but Josh Childress. Numbers ( or nimbers ) wise, it was Zaza. But on a Per 36 minute basis, Chill was better.

Our best low post defender? . . . Lorenzen Wright. But he was so horrible offensively, that he couldn’t even grab rebounds. And he really wasn’t that good defensively.

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People shouldn’t EVER make the mistake that we had some sort of great squad 3 years ago. We barely had any talent back then, and were winning games mainly because of Joe Johnson, and the ability of our frontcourt guys to get out and run, and Woody telling our frontcourt guys to push the ball up the floor after grabbing rebounds to create transition opportunities.

And just think . . . had we won the NBA Lottery in 2007, we wouldn’t have picked Kevin Durant, even though he was the best player in the country. We would’ve chosen Greg Oden . . . because we desperately needed a center. Instead, we get “lucky”, and get the #3 pick, and select Horford.

And even with that, things didn’t totally turn around, until we got rid of Lue and AJ, and brought in Bibby.

southcyde

April 10th, 2010
10:10 am

drmaryb = northcyde = JJ agent

Delbert D.

April 10th, 2010
10:10 am

Tech needs Woody. But what would the Hawks do with Hewitt? Rookies last only one year under Hewitt.

mcherich

April 10th, 2010
10:27 am

wow! That’s some deep digging. I must say, I agree with you.

northcyde

April 10th, 2010
10:28 am

lol @ southcyde.

See . . this is what you dudes don’t understand. The good Dr. has obviously been watching basketball for a LOOOOONG TIME. She knows how the league works, and doesn’t look at the NBA from a video game perspective, like a lot of you guys look at the league from.

Neither her, nor I, nor some of these other people on this blog have to resort to fake names, or silliness, in order to get our point across. All we do is KICK KNOWLEDGE. Knowledge that some of you simply need to soak up and process.

Keep reading her posts. You might learn something about the NBA.

junebaby

April 10th, 2010
11:04 am

when will you people realize that orlando and cleveland is SIMPLY better than the hawks? they have better players and a better orginization, PERIOD! you can fire woody, and hire red auerbach in his prime, and the fact still remains, those other two teams are better than the hawks. they have more talent on their 5’s, and off the bench. those are facts. until the hawks put a better group of talent on the floor, they will continue to come up short when compared to those top two teams. that’s not on woody, that’s on hawks management. this is not supporting woody, it’s stating the facts as i see them.

O'Brien

April 10th, 2010
11:16 am

drmaryb,

Are you sure that we actually made the offer to Doc? I do remember hearing that he was out of our price range, but I dont remember if an offer was actually made.

northcyde,

Woody has done a good job to help bring the team to where they are today. Players have grown (and we’ve gotten better players now), and Woody has grown and improved as well. But I have my doubts if Woody has what it takes to help us take the next level.

However, regardless of the regular season, I would like to see how Woody and the team performs in the second round. Ultimately, that will be what he’s judged by (in my opinion), and that will go a long way to determine his contract status.

AJ,

Have you been talking to Doc Rivers? I saw this on espnboston.com, and I know you’ve been making similar comments about the Hawks;

“”We’ve lost to New Jersey, we’ve lost to [other teams with poor records], but if we make a run in the playoffs, will you forget it? That’s my question,” asked Rivers.

When reporters nodded that all would likely be forgotten if Boston could make a sustained postseason run, he added, “That’s my point. If we don’t, then it’s probably who we were all year — an inconsistent team — at least in the second half of the year. We’ll find that out.”

The Hawks will tell us who they are in the postseason. If they go out, and have 4th quarter scoring droughts, and revert to too many ISOs, and can’t score against the zone, and the swtching gets abused, then that will tell us who the Hawks really are.

But if the Hawks can win 2 to 4 games in the second round, all will be forgotten.

cdog

April 10th, 2010
11:18 am

wow! 50 wins and the hawks have a coaching problem? wow! what idiots.woodson has done a tremendous job with this team.good luck in the playoffs.all of you don’t know the game of basketball.you have more of a personal problem with african american coaches in atlanta. who cares? noone.go find you a team to coach then you can satisfy your fantasies about coaching.you need to leave basketball alone

rusty

April 10th, 2010
11:20 am

drmaryb=northcyde=dumbass woody

[...] Atlanta Journal Constitution – Credit also Zaza Pachulia, exceptional ball movement and good work on the glass. Of the Hawks’ 15 baskets in the quarter, 10 were off assists, and they had 13 second-chance points. The Hawks missed 11 shots in the quarter and had seven offensive rebounds. [...]

T

April 10th, 2010
11:31 am

The Hawks continue to show why they are the only sports team in Atlanta that is a winner.

The Falcons should take a page from the Hawks – that sorry piece of crap Ryan is the biggest bust of all time in Falcons history and that is saying a lot.

Hell, if the Ravens had all the offensive weapons that the Falcons have, they would have won another championship.

T

April 10th, 2010
11:35 am

cdog

April 10th, 2010
11:18 am
wow! 50 wins and the hawks have a coaching problem? wow! what idiots.woodson has done a tremendous job with this team.good luck in the playoffs.all of you don’t know the game of basketball.you have more of a personal problem with african american coaches in atlanta. who cares? noone.go find you a team to coach then you can satisfy your fantasies about coaching.you need to leave basketball alone

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They have a problem with African Americans period! Don’t waste your time with those garbage people.

The Falcons and Braves haven’t done a damn thing since the leaders on the team were brothas. Remember Fred McGriff, Terry Pendleton, Marquis Grissom, David Justice, Otis Nixon, etc.?

The Braves haven’t been relevent since 1995 and the Falcons since 2006.

UGA

April 10th, 2010
11:42 am

Teague may be good one day, but we need to sign a back up next year to Bibby. (Ridnour, Blake, Duhon, etc.)

Tough one tonight vs Wizards. We don’t want the Heat.

G-Money

April 10th, 2010
11:46 am

Everyone on here talking about fire Woody, and this team hasn’t progressed the way that it should, really needs to calm down. Check out the scores from last night’s other games. See what the results of the Heat game was, check out what happened to Boston in Boston, take a look at how San Antonio fared. The point is there are no tremendous run away teams, I know everyone will say look at Cleveland. The reality of it is they have their demons in Orlando, and a good perimeter team who can spread the floor will still give them problems. I think we are seeing some teams winding down a long regular season, and as the playoffs begin they will be recharged, including the Hawks. Atlanta needs to continue working on playing together with better ball movement, and don’t give in to playing as much one pass and hold/shoot basketball.

KAI

April 10th, 2010
11:47 am

once a team gets in the playoffs things r totally different the hawks may not be playing up to their potential but no team is going to just go into the playoffs and not play hard its not gonna happen n how i see it a win is a win no matter how u get it gosh! why does everybody have to be hard on the hawks n the coach n everything is not his fault! we need to have confidence is our team cause nobody else does!!

Nacho

April 10th, 2010
11:52 am

UGA: You make a good point but we are in bad shape if Bibby is a starter next year. He simply is not a good pg at this point in his career.