Johnson out for two games

Greetings, all-

You may have seen the story we put up Monday saying that Joe Johnson will not make the trip for the Charlotte and Detroit games Tuesday and Wednesday.

The thumb that he injured defending Ron Artest in the Lakers game last Wednesday is still bothering him – he aggravated it early against Cleveland on Friday. Johnson and the team decided to let it heal up and hopefully be ready for the playoffs rather than let it linger. Johnson described himself as “very frustrated” with the injury. Mo Evans will start in his place.

“I’m just trying to rest up and do whatever it takes to get it back 100 percent before the playoffs start,” Johnson said Monday after practice.

Obviously, this doesn’t bode well for the Hawks in their impending road swing. They’ve got Charlotte and Detroit back to back and will be home against Toronto on Friday, which is the earliest that Johnson could be back.

Charlotte is two games behind Andrew Bogut-less Milwaukee for the No. 6 spot and has given the Hawks trouble. Detroit has, as well. And, as you know, the Hawks are trying to break a four-game road losing streak. Toronto is holding down the No. 8 spot, a game ahead of Chicago.

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yeah

April 5th, 2010
2:09 pm

bigdave

April 5th, 2010
2:12 pm

Milwaukee is now the ideal first rd match up… will be interesting to see how we respond on the road… offensively i guess we’ll see more “see what works and stick with it” , that Josh references post game after the Detroit win..

northcyde

April 5th, 2010
2:18 pm

Charlotte is always a major test for this team, so I’m eager to see how they play without JJ in Charlotte.

northcyde

April 5th, 2010
2:21 pm

As for our season in general, and how we may fare in the playoffs . . . the Hawks have the #3 rated offense in the league. People may despise the ISO offense that we run at times, but that’s a major reason for our offensive efficiency.

The ISO, on most possessions, may not get us the best shot possible . . . but it does guarantee on most possessions that we’re going to at least get a shot up. Taking a shot and missing is better than turning the ball over, because with a missed shot, you do at least have an opportunity to rebound the basketball and get another shot up.

It’s a low-risk offense that we run here, that is enhanced tremendously by our ability to get out on the break and score in transition. We’re the #4 team in fast break points ( because of the ability of our frontcourt people to get out and fill the lane ) . . . and #5 in the league in points in the paint ( because of the transition buckets, post-ups, and JJ’s floater in the lane ). In the halfcourt, our offense is definitely dependent on guys making shots when being guarded one on one.

It may not be the prettiest offense in the world, but it is efficient overall. And depending on how we and Denver play down the stretch, we could end up at #2 in the league in offense.

OFFENSIVE FOUR FACTORS:

- .505 eFG% ( 11th in league ) . . . #9 amongst all playoff teams
- .113 TOV% ( 1st ) . . . #1 amongst all playoff teams
- .279 Off Reb% ( 6th ) . . . #3 amongst all playoff teams
- .214 FT per FGA% ( 23rd ) . . . . last amongst all playoff teams

The FT per FTA% is the only troubling number come playoff time, especially when the game slows down in that 4th quarter. If we’re not getting to the line, our main ISO guys ( JJ, Crawford, Smoove ) MUST make shots down the stretch . . or we must play lights-out defense and score in transition.

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And of course, it’s the defense that is most troubling, when it comes to the Hawks. The defense fuels the transition offense, which enables us to also get points in the paint. Defensively, we’re ranked 13th in the league . . . up from 14th. But when you look at the 4 factors on defense, you see why we’re ranked 13th.

DEFENSIVE FOUR FACTORS:

- .497 eFG% ( 15th in the league ) . . . #13 amongst all playoff teams
- .133 TOV% ( 18th in the league ) . . . #10 amongst all playoff teams
- .726 Def Reb% ( 24th in the league ) . . . #14 amongst all playoff teams
- .209 FT per FTA% ( 7th in the league ) . . . #5 amongst all playoff teams

Definitely don’t have to tell any Hawks fan what one of our major problems on defense is. We have to make a commitment to secure defensive rebounds to prevent 2nd chance points. If we can do that, that’ll give us a great chance to advance in the playoffs.

If we don’t defensive rebound, this team is dead in the water come that 2nd round . . and might force us to play 6 or 7 games to advance in the first round. Smoove and Horford ( and hopefully a guy like Marvin ), need to dominate the boards on any given occasion come playoff time.

Tony from Stone Mountain

April 5th, 2010
2:52 pm

Rest up and heal Joe be ready for the play-offs.

Marcus

April 5th, 2010
2:56 pm

yeesh! better now than game 1 of the 1st round.

hey, while it is early in the blog …. looking ahead (at the draft) and looking back (over the season and whatever improvement areas we have) … who should we draft in 1st round?

northcyde

April 5th, 2010
3:05 pm

Wow. I really have no life

northcyde

April 5th, 2010
3:05 pm

And the fact that I claim to make these posts while at work doesn’t bode well for me either.

Will anyone here please be my friend?

O'Brien

April 5th, 2010
3:07 pm

Although we are mostly iso-oriented, there has been some improvement since the all-star break. We still run a lot of ISOs, but I think Al and Josh have been more involved some games.

northcyde,

I wonder what our offensive efficiency in the fourth quarter is?

Hopefully JJ will be ready to go for the playoffs. I would rather sacrifice a few games now, to make sure our best player is 100% come playoff time. The Hawks have been the healthiest team all year, so it will be interesting to see how we do now that we have been faced with some real adversity.

Playing without our best player, on the road, against 2 teams who give us trouble.

This is one reason why I would have liked to see Rick Sund make a move for a backup SF (either this past offseason (Chills?), or at the deadline). I know that we will be rotating Mo from the starting SG spot to the backup SF spot (when JJ does not play). But if Mo is having a bad game, it impacts us at 2 positions.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 5th, 2010
3:12 pm

It’s not going to be easy to beat Charlotte without Joe, but I’m fine with him taking his time and resting up. Playoff seeding is still a big deal, but they should at least be able to win at Detroit even without him. Of course, “should” doesn’t necessarily mean “will”…

Greg

April 5th, 2010
3:44 pm

Against Charlotte, more concerned with the Larry Brown vs Mike Woodson mismatch than Joe Johnson being out.

Rod from College Park

April 5th, 2010
3:45 pm

No worries guys. No Joe. that just means that Marvin will step up and provide the scoring that Joe does. LOL

northcyde

April 5th, 2010
3:48 pm

LOL @ people watching my every post, but saying that I have no life . . . even going to Hawksquawk to say the same thing. I guess JeJe is jealous again.

northcyde

April 5th, 2010
3:49 pm

O’Brien . . . making a move for Jerry Stackhouse, while most people scoffed at such a move ( including myself ), would come in real handy right now. He’s a better option to play, than Mario West . . and possibly Jeff TEague, depending on the situation.

O'Brien

April 5th, 2010
4:32 pm

Najeh,

Didn’t we lose to Detroit earlier in the year (with JJ playing), while Detroit was missing 3 regulars from their rotation? And Detroit played us tough in ATL yesterday despite them shooting horribly. I would not be surprised to see us lose at Detroit.

I also would not be surprised to see us lose to Charlotte. They blew us out earlier in the year, and it took a JJ shot at the buzzer to beat them in ATL earlier.

northcyde,

Agreed. And when you want to be an elite team, you must have options.

I didnt think much about the Stackhouse signing early on either, although Sekou said Stack looked good in the preseason. But instead we went with Othello, and then Mario West to replace Othello. But what kind of impact have we gotten from Othello/Mario? Minimal.

Hawks have been fortunate (staying healthy), but if JJ’s injury lingers, we could be in trouble. However, for those fans who think we should let JJ go, maybe they’ll be happy to see the Hawks play without JJ. Personally, I think the Hawks need JJ more than he needs them.

Hopefully our players will all step their game up. Bibby needs to be more effective at the point, so Crawford can focus on being the SG, and Mo needs to have a good game, because he will get minutes at both SF and SG.

Our front court needs to step up (offensively and defensively), so that we wont have to rely on our backcourt as much, and Marvin just needs to help keep guys off the glass.

Sutton's Fro

April 5th, 2010
4:50 pm

One good thing I’ve seen lately is Woody using the bench/role players more (even if he was “forced” to.) Mo, Zaza, and Teague have been getting some good work in, and are blending well with the starters. Now if only Joe Smith could get some more PT!!

I know teams usually shorten the rotation during the playoffs, but the Hawks actually have the advantage when our 2nd string guys are in the mix. Whether it’s foul trouble, injuries/fatigue, or just the fact that Bibby and Marvin are tossing up bricks — we will need quality minutes off the bench. Woody needs to keep playing them, so they aren’t rusty when called into service.

Big Ump

April 5th, 2010
5:33 pm

Big Ray

Thanks. All is well. Been away doing a few Springs games and Camps. It’s that time again.

Westurd

April 5th, 2010
5:33 pm

Sutton, did you see how much burn the bench got last game………..not much and thats including their burning a$$es from sitting on the bench all night.

I got ants in my pants about the playoff….only thing I’m dreading is the dolla bills I’ll be droping!

Go Hawks

Billy D

April 5th, 2010
5:50 pm

I keep hoping Charlotte will drop off to number 8 and gives the Cavs hell in the first round. It’d be idea too if Toronto made a run to 6th or 5th so we could face them first round. Anything to avoid D-Wade and the Heat. They’ve had our number this year

Hawk n the Ham

April 5th, 2010
6:06 pm

Does Jason Heyward play small forward too?

Blast

April 5th, 2010
7:37 pm

Good test for Hawks. 2 road games without Joe. Let’s see how they perform.

O'Brien

April 5th, 2010
8:31 pm

From ajc.com,

Pachulia said coach Mike Woodson has told the team since the season’s outset that these types of games would be the ones that everyone remembers at the end the year.

“You’re going to say, ‘I wish we had won that one. I wish I would have put in some extra effort,’” he said. “This is where we start to feel it.”

Interesting. Isn’t that exactly what us fans do?

But yet it has been suggested that we should not think like that because we should focus on the games we did win. Especially since other teams are doing the same thing…

JeJe

April 5th, 2010
8:43 pm

“I wish I knew,” he said. “It’s been that way against the Cleveland Cavaliers. It’s been a close game in the fourth and we can’t seem to find any offense.”

LOL so Woodson still has NOT figured out how to beat the Knicks, Magic (besides that one game), and now the Cavs. This guy DOES NOT MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FROM GAME TO GAME. You HEARD Hubie and Jon Barry say it last night — we lost the exact same way last night we did the 2 previous times vs. Cleveland. Look at those Orlando losses — same thing.

WOODY DOES NOT MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. He DOES NOT “give a !@#$ about the offense” and that shows when we go ice cold in the 4th quarter.

We were OUTREBOUNDED BY 19 WITHOUT Shaq and Varejao (who is an absolute PEST on the glass) playing. Where was Collins to guard Ilgauskas?

This is a !@#$ing joke. This is NOT an elite team. Cleveland is so physical and they go for rebounds. We settle for these !@#damn jumpshots, DON’T box out, and we have NO OFFENSIVE PLAN — JUST A FEW TALENTED SCORERS.

This is the BEST and most accurate post I’ve made on here.

FIRE MIKE WOODSON

We all know Woodson and Marvin suck, but Marvin is at least a serviceable defender (good, but not great).

However, what will ultimately lead to our demise in the playoffs is the fact that Bibby CANNOT guard anyone in this league. What this means is that Woodson, who already has stiff rotations, will give Bibby few minutes against the quicker PGs (which is every other starting and bench PG in this league), Crawford will get burnt out play 38 minutes at PG every night, and we will therefore suffer.

I SAID BEFORE THE SEASON BIBBY HAD TO LOSE WEIGHT AND GET QUICKER BUT HE IS OBVIOUSLY OUT OF SHAPE. LOOK AT HIS UPPER BODY. HE HAS NO SPEED AND CAN TAKE NO POINT GUARDS OFF THE DRIBBLE. ALSO, HE CANNOT STAY IN FRONT OF ANYONE, NOR DOES HE TRY

FIRE MIKE KNAPP

JeJe

April 5th, 2010
8:48 pm

It’d be nice if Woodson pulled a Phil Jackson and criticized the refs in the media. What P-Jax did is similar to what he did vs. Denver last year, that helped them win a very controversial series

Joseph

April 5th, 2010
9:04 pm

w/o JJ, Hawks will lose both games on the road. Cleveland (out in 4) here we go by virtue of our 4th place finish lol.

Astro Joe

April 5th, 2010
9:07 pm

A little disconcerting that Joe is frustrated by his injury. That makes me think that it is an injury that will last into the playoffs. Why be frustrated if all will be well in a week or so? Because he really wants to play these last few games? Not likely. Again, seems more likely that he is concerned that this injury may hamper him in the post-season.

cdog

April 5th, 2010
9:19 pm

THE HAWKS SHOULD BE ALRIGHT WITH JOHNSON OUT IF THEY CONCENTRATE ON PLAYING DEFENSE AND REBOUND THE BASKETBALL BY BOXING OUT AND USE GOOD DEFENSIVE POSITIONING WHILE GUARDING THE BALL.THE OFFENSE WILL COME IF THEY PLAY DEFENSE. THE BENCH HAS TO COME TO PLAY EVERY NIGHT.THEY SHOULD HANDLE CHARLOTTE AND DETROIT EASILY THIS WEEK.

cdog

April 5th, 2010
9:26 pm

JE JE, WOODSON IS NOT ON THE FLOOR IN THE FOURTH QUARTER PLAYING.THE PLAYERS HAS TO FIGURE IT OUT WITH HEART AND DESIRE.NO COACH CAN TEACH THAT.THE HAWKS PLAYERS SIMPLY EXPECT TO LOSE WHEN THEY PLAY CLEVELAND AND ORLANDO SO THEY USUALLY DO. WHY DO EVERYONE WANT TO CRITICIZE WODSON.RIGHT NOW, HE IS THE WINNEST COACH IN ALL OF ATLANTA PRO TEAMS.I DON’T HEAR ANYONE ELSE SAYING FIRE BOBBY COX, MIKE SMITH OR THE THRASHERS COACH.WHAT THE REAL PROBLEM?NONE OF THESE COACHES HAS THEIR TEAMS IN THE PLAYOFFS, WOODSON DOES AND WOODSON SHOULD BE FIRED? NO WAY.

drmaryb

April 5th, 2010
9:37 pm

CDOG

Don’t read that JeJe garbage. Use your scroll key … He/She (whatever it is?)
Says the same thing over & over anyways.

CLYDE = JeJe

JeJe

April 5th, 2010
9:48 pm

JeJe

April 5th, 2010
9:49 pm

THE GUY DOES NOT HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THE KNICKS, MAGIC, OR CAVS.

NO ADJUSTMENTS ARE MADE, AND WE ARE SEVERELY UNDERTALENTED COMPARED TO THEM
LOLOLOL

Fundamentals

April 5th, 2010
10:38 pm

Seems the injury bug is rearing it’s head again late. It’s time for our role players to show they’re ready to contribute. The Bobcats will be hungry, Detroit should collapse late. We’ll at least go 1-1 before rolling in to pound Toronto.

It’s playoff time people. Our Hawks have shown they can rise up! Yeah, we failed against Cleveland, but 1/2 our team was out with injuries. It’s time for them to prove to lame fair weather fans like JeJe that we have what it takes to win.

Our teams future is in their own hands. Shall we rise up to greatness or fall to our own insecurities. I pray they play 100% so that they can be proud of the outcome, regardless of where it leads. I’ve come to love this team. Good and bad.

I predict ZaZa and Marvin have big games to lead us to a win this week. Laugh all you want, but Marvin usually brings it when Joe’s out. ZaZa just wakes up this time of year. He’s ready to RUMBLE!

J.J.M.

April 5th, 2010
10:40 pm

he might as well sit out the rest of the season

J.J.M.

April 5th, 2010
10:41 pm

and is joe to good to travel with the team when hes hurt?

Dawghi

April 5th, 2010
10:43 pm

Why the heck would you not start Crawford. I know he provides energy off bench, but that is just stupid. Mo Evans is a small forward also.

Dawghi

April 5th, 2010
10:44 pm

Also JJM if Joe can play he needs to if you want to make Conference Finals you better hope we play Orlando, we suck vs Cleveland and obv scared.

mike

April 5th, 2010
11:11 pm

JJM- joe is not traveling with the team.. i saw him at a mexican restaurant in buckhead tonight.. no bandage/wrap on his finger/hand, which i took as a good sign

J.J.M.

April 5th, 2010
11:38 pm

darrell starks

April 5th, 2010
11:38 pm

WHAT A GAME BUTLER AND DUKE
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

April 5th, 2010
11:40 pm

BUTLER LOST BUT THAT HOW YOU PLAY DEFENSE DUKE SCRATCH FOR EVERY POINT.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

Clyde

April 5th, 2010
11:42 pm

Big Ray

April 5th, 2010
11:45 pm

Dang! Is that a Fundamentals sighting?

Northcyde ,

Getting spoofed on two different sites? Wow, you DO have an obsessed secret admirer. Oh wait, we are calling that a stalker these days, aren’t we? LOL

O’brien ,

Good posts, all the way around. I’m hoping Joe is good to go for the playoffs. I am in no mood to have another injury-plagued JJ for the playoffs again. And it’s doubly important that he be healthy for this year’s playoffs. For a variety of reasons.

Clyde

April 5th, 2010
11:45 pm

Clyde does not = Jeje

I was at work all night. JJ will miss two games. Lets see if Woody knows how to draw up more plays besides ISO Joe.

FIRE WOODY

darrell starks

April 5th, 2010
11:45 pm

Joe i dont care if you miss the rest of the season just heal your body for the playoffs.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

Melvin

April 5th, 2010
11:50 pm

Jamie Foxx believe in the Hawks. Do you Hawks fans?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mOXbDnpn0o

cdog

April 5th, 2010
11:59 pm

BASKETBALL IS MORE THAN RUNNING PLAYS.WOODSON DID SOMETHING RIGHT, HE HAS WON 48 GAMES AND WILL WIN MORER THAN 50.THERE IS A LOT OF SMART XS AND OS COACHES OUT THERE THAT CAN COACH THEIR WAY OUT OF A PAPER SACK.APPARENT ANYONE WHO THINKS BASKETBALL IS ABOUT XS AND OS HASN’T PLAYED OR DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BASKETBALL.WOODSON IS HERE TO STAY WITH THE HAQKS FOR A LONG TIME AS THEIR HEAD COACH, LIKE IT OR NOT.

Clyde

April 6th, 2010
12:02 am

Cdog I want you to say Woody has done something right when we get our a$$ swept in the second round.

FIRE WOODY

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 6th, 2010
4:00 am

Jason Heyward > Marvin

vava74

April 6th, 2010
4:17 am

Astro,

JJ is frustrated because he knows that it is crucial that we win as many games
as possible in order to keep the #3 spot and he rightfuly feels that his play will be missed.

Winning in Charlotte would boost our chances of finishing #3 and of Milwaukee keeping the #6 spot , which would be our best possible match up (at least theoretically speaking).

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

April 6th, 2010
4:35 am

I like seeing the Hawks play without JJ.

-Less ISO

-More player involvement

-Love to see Mo Evans get a bigger role, as he usually impresses and plays WITHIN the flow of the game.