Hawks squawks: Hawks 91, Pistons 85

– Greetings, all. Ken Sugiura sitting in for MC.

– Not a pretty game. Mike Woodson: “We played pretty well in spurts, but we played well enough to win the game.”

– Detroit was outmanned, but hung in. I’m still not sure how, as they shot 37 percent from the floor. The two players who took the most shots — Tayshaun Prince and Charlie Villanueva — were a combined 10 for 31. Ben Gordon didn’t even score. Said Jamal Crawford, “They compete. They play hard. They have a lot of talented guys. They’ve got (Rodney) Stuckey, Gordon, (Will) Bynum’s capable of putting up some numbers.”

Joe Johnson was out with a sprained right thumb, which may explain why he was 6-for-17 against Cleveland on Friday. Before the game, Woodson wasn’t sure if he’d be ready for Charlotte on Tuesday.

Al Horford on Joe being out: “He’s usually our go-to guy and a big part of our team. I know they’re missing a lot of guys, too, but we’re so used to playing together.”

– Not a great night for Jeff Teague. He got some extra minutes with Johnson out, but couldn’t take advantage. He had a couple nice plays – he hit a floater and set up an alley oop to Josh Smith — but also had two turnovers and didn’t seem to get the offense going.

– Looking ahead, Hawks are on the road four of the next five. They’re all winnable – @ Charlotte, @ Detroit, home against Toronto, @ Washington, @Milwaukee – but Hawks have lost their last four on the road. (If you weren’t aware, Andrew Bogut injured  his elbow Saturday night, which, obviously, would be a tough loss for the Bucks.) Final game of the season is home against Cleveland. A tough home stretch.

Boston, if you’re wondering, has Cleveland at home, @ Knicks, @ Toronto, Washington, @ Milwaukee, @ Chicago, Milwaukee.

I’m out. Happy Easter, everyone.

94 comments Add your comment

rusty

April 4th, 2010
12:31 am

jc plays so much better when jj is not on the court with him

Hawk n the Ham

April 4th, 2010
12:39 am

Sit Marvin. Start Mo, for the next few games, and test the theory if Marvin is a better 6 man type player.

O'Brien

April 4th, 2010
12:56 am

From the previous blog,

Najeh,

U say the Cavs are just better than the Hawks. But how do you explain the Bobcats beating the Cavs twice?

Doc,

If u think JJ is paid like a Batman already, what will u think of his next contract?

One thing I don’t like about Woody, is he blames a lot of our losses on us not making jump shots. If only it was that easy.

Did not see the game tonight, but without JJ I’ll take the win no matter how ugly.

However, I did not like the 17 points in the fourth. And people complain about Teague not taking advantage of the PT, I haven’t seen Marvin take advantage of the PT either.

No JJ tonight, and Marvin has 7 pts, 3 rebs in 37 minutes. But he got a 5 year $37.5 mil contract.

If Marvin does not improve by next season, then we will need to cut our losses. And that is why I think Sund needs to get Chills in here. Let him and Marvin duke it out for the starting SF spot.

On a positive note, we are 1.5 games up on the Celtics, who play the Cavs tomorow. I’ll be rooting for the Cavs.

Go Hawks.

Melvin

April 4th, 2010
1:05 am

Woody could have let Teague play thru his tough stretch (like he do the vets) instead of benching him. SMH

J-MAN

April 4th, 2010
1:30 am

I just saw Andrew Bynum break his arm on Sportscenter…….. Gruesome.

Ree Roe

April 4th, 2010
1:34 am

@ Melvin, what has Teague done to earn that benefit of the doubt from Woody? Yall consistently overrate Teague as some sort of super PG in the making, but from what I’ve seen he’s an avg PG at best who is tentative, can’t shoot & doesn’t make good decisions with the ball. Why would you give that guy more time? As I said in the previous blog, I don’t agree with Woody on much, but bringing the rook along slowly was the RIGHT move.

-thREE for Roe!!!

JeJe

April 4th, 2010
1:57 am

“I wish I knew,” he said. “It’s been that way against the Cleveland Cavaliers. It’s been a close game in the fourth and we can’t seem to find any offense.”

LOL so Woodson still has NOT figured out how to beat the Knicks, Magic (besides that one game), and now the Cavs. This guy DOES NOT MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FROM GAME TO GAME. You HEARD Hubie and Jon Barry say it last night — we lost the exact same way last night we did the 2 previous times vs. Cleveland. Look at those Orlando losses — same thing.

WOODY DOES NOT MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. He DOES NOT “give a !@#$ about the offense” and that shows when we go ice cold in the 4th quarter.

We were OUTREBOUNDED BY 19 WITHOUT Shaq and Varejao (who is an absolute PEST on the glass) playing. Where was Collins to guard Ilgauskas?

This is a !@#$ing joke. This is NOT an elite team. Cleveland is so physical and they go for rebounds. We settle for these !@#damn jumpshots, DON’T box out, and we have NO OFFENSIVE PLAN — JUST A FEW TALENTED SCORERS.

This is the BEST and most accurate post I’ve made on here.

FIRE MIKE WOODSON

JeJe

April 4th, 2010
1:58 am

Teague is not a star but plays nicely.

Woodson takes out players who are playing well. He took forever to get ZaZa in for the 2nd half of the Lakers game even though his first half was amazing

JeJe

April 4th, 2010
1:59 am

Woodson will never let players compete for starting positions. He’s content with having the same starting 5 for the next 8 years if he’s coach

JeJe

April 4th, 2010
2:08 am

Typical game tonight:

Woodson overplaying the starters, bench getting low minutes except for Jamal, and Marvin and Bibby contributing nothing, even though Marvin is a superstar defender according to some people here.

12 points combined from 2 starters who just got new contracts?

FIRE SUND

Clyde

April 4th, 2010
2:41 am

Jeje you remind me of me 3 or 4 years ago. Keep it up.

No Joe Johnson and Teague only gets 9 minutes. I hope something doesn’t happen and we need his to play extended minutes in the playoffs.

FIRE WOODY

Clyde

April 4th, 2010
2:46 am

Bibby has got his new contract and quit on the team. All he does is bring the ball up the court and throw up 3’s. What a waste of money. We could have used a 3rd of that money and signed one of the MVP’s of last years team, Flip Murray.

FIRE WOODY

Clyde

April 4th, 2010
3:28 am

Big Ray

April 4th, 2010
5:31 am

Ree Roe,

Bringing someone along slowly produces slow results. I don’t think Teague has gotten low minutes because he can’t play. He’s gotten low minutes because Woody planned it that way, and Woody has said as much.

Woody himself said he wasn’t going to throw Teague to the wolves, as the saying goes. Woody himself has said he thought Teague has played pretty well, particularly considering the fact that he doesn’t get a lot of minutes. So saying Woody did the right thing because of Teague’s production is misleading, in my opinion. Rather, he produces what he can in the limited minutes he gets.

Strange how in an effort to paint the kid as a non-player with a ton of weaknesses, Woody’s own words get “forgotten” in the shuffle. He has nothing against the kid, making me wonder why anybody supporting the coach, does .

The guy was drafted in the mid/late part of the first round. If he was a super guard, he wouldn’t have lasted so long. As for his decision-making, I’ll let the stats talk for themselves: 9.5 mpg, 1.5 apg, 0.6 turnovers per game. If you could reasonably extrapolate that into twice the minutes and twice the stats, you’d have 19 mpg, 3 apg, and 1.2 turnovers per game. Bad decision-making my arse. The shooting percentage? I agree with that. He needs to work on his shot, but guess what? Not turning the ball over and playing good defense comes first, and I think he’s made some good progress there. As for assertiveness, what are you looking for? For him to take more shots? At whose expense, might I ask?

For Teague to be expected to earn significantly more minutes, he would have to prove that he is better than, or offers more in a total package, than Mike Bibby and Jamal Crawford. If that were the case, we’d be talking about a top 3 lottery pick, not a guy who got picked 19th.

Teague plays 9.5 mpg because we are a 50+ win team and a #3 seed in the Eastern Conference. We don’t necessarily need him to play a bigger role, though I’d like to see him get a few more minutes here and there, if the opportunity presents itself.

I agree (finally) for the most part with what Woody is doing with the kid. But it was the plan from the start. We’re a playoff team. Don’t care how good a rook is, you don’t put him in that position, rather than do what is best to get the team further in the playoffs.

Funny side note: What was Mike Bibby doing against Detroit? 5 points, 4 assists, 2-8 shooting. Huh. Seems like he has one of these games right around the time Teague gets bagged on for not scoring 20 points and dishing 10 assists in 9 minutes…LOL

Big Ray

April 4th, 2010
5:41 am

O’brien ,

The only thing I can say about Marvin and his contract is that it’s not an unreasonable contract. It may seem that way for this team, but other teams may look at him and think they could cut him into a greater portion of their offense. Now I’m sure Rod will jump in here and say Marvin can’t possibly do anymore than he is now, but somehow I’m betting he could give a team 14-15 ppg with a couple/few more shot attempts per game.

I mean, if he can give a team what he gave us in ‘07-’08, is he worth that 5 year, 37.5 million? Not an awful price if he can duplicate the 14.8 ppg and 6.3rpg that he did back then. Something tells me he can do that if he’s given the opportunity to be more than a team’s fifth or sixth option. He can probably do it even as the team’s 4th option, which is what he was in ‘07-’08, as I recall.

Beyond that, I agree. 10 points and 5 rebounds per game is NOT worth 5 yrs/$37.5 million, in my opinion.

Big Daddy

April 4th, 2010
7:18 am

To me the game never should have been this close. Detroit was without two their starters and have a record that indicates we should have blown them out. How can we play like we did against the Lakers and struggle to beat Detroit. With JJ out, it would seem the perfect opportunity for Mavin or Bibby to step up and play their best game of the season. That would give us all some confidence in what this team can do if their is an injury during the playoffs. Instead it gets down to the last 4 minutes before we extend our lead and win the game.

Marvin did a decent job when he was on Prince, who got most of his points when guarded by someone else. Tonight was the perfect time for Bibby to do some of the penetration and dump off moves that he does far to sparingly and it just didn’t happen. Woody really needs to play his bench more. I think Detroit was able to play as well as they did because they have been playing their bench.

I would be remiss if not saying part of what I see as an issue is that we have been one of the healthiest teams in the league. Remember last year when we had the injuries we did have and Woody had to play other people. With no one being out for any significant period of time, coach has not had to make those kind of adjustments. That is going to get us our 50+ win season as much as anything else. It would just be smart, dare I say, for Woody to play the bench anytime we get a substantial lead. I have noticed that sometimes he does not. He keeps the starters out there as if he does not have confidence in the bench that BK and Sund has given him. I fear it will come back to bite him, big time, during the playoffs.

I hope the Hawks can go deep in the playoffs and despite all the gripes, no team management will fire a coach who has continued to have the team improves its wins every year. That is not going to happen, so save your breath on that. If Woody only has 35 wins next year, he will be gone. However, next year with a trade or pick up like we did with Jamaal, we could compete for the title. GO HAWKS!!!!

sam'l

April 4th, 2010
7:58 am

I would like to see the Hawks in the finals like most of us, and I’m supercritical. Je Je makes sense. But we’re not that far off. The San Antonio, Laker, Magic victories seemed very solid, landmark games. Still think Woody needs a lot of help quickly to match other coaches, but no longer willing to fire him pointblank. He needs someone like Lloyd on Entourage to assist him in every way so there are no blind spots. His first challenge is to win some road games. Miami is hot, and as we all know their coach is a scrappy, wild-eyed strategist out to prove himself (not that there’s anything wrong with that). I don’t think the Hawks should fear anyone. But given time, Miami might have crawled into the fourth playoff seed.

Maybe Joe and Crawford should alternate, so one on the floor at all times. Mo been putting up some numbers. Am I correct, does Marvin Williams play really good defense? Teague is really fast….why can’t he play like Tony Parker in the future? He doesn’t have the experience to run the club….That’s what practices are for. Put him out there in practice and MAKE him run the club until it’s second nature. (Sounds like I’m cruel, but Jeff it’s for your own good). I like his speed.
Anyway, I like the Hawks chances in the playoffs.

D’yu see Ilgauskas snag 10 rebounds the other night against his jilted suitors (us) ?

Marcus

April 4th, 2010
8:33 am

We will make our hay these last few games. I think CLE will pound BOS today to send a message …. just in case all the top 4 seeds in the East make it to the 2nd round and they see each other again.
We, on the other hand, have our work cut out … all of our remaining games on the road are vs. teams we have already lost to in their arena….

Nate ArchiBALL

April 4th, 2010
9:21 am

@ JeJe
Once Woody makes up his mind on a player at the beginning of the season they will start come hell or high water. For example, Woody started Royal Ivey for 63 out the 73 games that he played in ‘05 – ‘06 even though he averaged only 13 minutes and 3.6 points per game. That has to be lowest number of minutes averaged by a starter in the history of the NBA. All that is to say Woody is incapable of change – be it lineup, offense or defensive scheme.

Given the financial situation of the ASG, we may have seen one of our centers for next season …. Kwame Brown (i can’t believe I’m writing this). He definitely brings more to the table than Jason Collins and Randolph Morris combined plus the price is right. He will be a physical presence in the middle – no more escorts to the rim by the current Hawk centers. Kwame’s career numbers are equal to ZaZa.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 4th, 2010
9:26 am

“U say the Cavs are just better than the Hawks. But how do you explain the Bobcats beating the Cavs twice?”

Matchups. Same reason the Mavs lost to the Warriors in the playoffs a few years ago. I haven’t seen the Cavs and Bobcats play, so I don’t know what specifically the matchup issues are, but I would guess it starts with them having a very good defensive small forward who can take away a lot of what LeBron can do. Having tall, relatively athletic centers in Tyson Chandler and Nazr Mohammed probably doesn’t hurt either.

Ree Roe

April 4th, 2010
9:26 am

It’s official: Bogut is done for the year. Terrible news for MIL & Bogut

@ Astro, Woody speaks highly of Teague because I believe he actually likes him. I believe Woody actually thinks Teague could be a player some day. But results are results & the truth is that Teague hasn’t played well enough in his limited mins to deserve more playing time. 1.5 to 0.6 turnovers can’t be reasonablly extroplated. It is what it is. I have nothing against Teague & wish him the best b/c his success only makes us stronger, but Woody has brought him along slowly b/c he HAS to moreso than he WANTS to.

As far as giving Teague a pass b/c he’s a mid first round pick, stop it. Lawson, Jrue Holliday, Beaubois & Maynor were all picked around the same time Teague was & all have made significant contributions to their teams. Let’s not make excuses here. Teague hasn’t played well & even when Bibby has struggled Teague STILL isn’t a viable option. He’s not aggressive on the offense end, doesn’t set the team up on offense & despite his speed & quickness, is a liabity on defense (how many silly fouls does he commit when he’s in there?).

All I’m saying is that I agree with not playing Teague that much b/c he doesn’t look like he can handle extended minutes or meaningful mins at this point in his career.

-gREEt Roe!!!

G-Money

April 4th, 2010
9:27 am

People knock it off. Woody is doing the best he can with what he has. Is Marvin Williams underachieving? Has Mike Bibby’s game totally dropped off the usual pace we were accustomed to seeing? Is Al Horford playing out of position? Is Josh Smith a tremendous offensive threat? Is Joe Johnson a top tier player? Be honest with yourselves when answering. In reality he has done a better job considering what he has to work with. Remember when Shaq left the Lakers and the great Phil Jackson had Kobe and some adequate talent, how many games did they win? 34. They didn’t compete until they got Gasol as a gift to pair with Bynum.

Billy D

April 4th, 2010
9:28 am

Probably one of Jamal’s best games. It’s a shame he and Joe couldn’t get it going in the 4th against Cleveland. And I agree with whoever said that Jamal plays best without JJ on the floor. It’s great to have them both out there during critical moments but through the game Woddy should mix up lineups with Bibby, JC, JJ, Teague and Mo Evans

JeJe

April 4th, 2010
10:17 am

I think Ken Strickland said it best in the last blog: Bibby cannot take anyone off the dribble, so he picks up his dribble at halfcourt and passes the ball away.

LOL.

What does Bibby average for points in the paint? 1 ppg? I see this guy get an easy layup once very 2 games maybe.

Woodson also said he doesn’t have to play Teague because we have vets running PG. BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN BIBBY SEVERELY UNDERACHIEVES AND IN 2 YEARS WHEN BIBBY IS GONE? WHO IS OUR PG THEN? TEAGUE WHO IS GETTING 9 MPG NOW?

FIRE MIKE KNAPP

JeJe

April 4th, 2010
10:46 am

THE CAVS FANS HAVE SAID IT THEMSELVES:

JAMAL CRAWFORD OWNS THEM.

SO WHY DON’T WE RUN MORE PLAYS TO FACILITATE BASKETS FOR JAMAL? WHY IS OUR OFFENSIVE PLAN SO BAD?

EVERY TIME WE PLAY ON ESPN, IT’S THE SAME ANNOUNCERS WHO SAY THE SAME THING –> THAT ALL WE DO IS PLAY 1-ON-1 AND SHOOT JUMPSHOTS

JeJe

April 4th, 2010
10:52 am

Those Magic, Laker, and Spurs victories were at home.

has this team won one meaningful roadgame this year besides @ Dallas (lost at home to them) and the games against the battered Celtics team? Portland is average

ATL Hawks #1 Lady Fan/Mz. Hawkdafied

April 4th, 2010
10:58 am

It takes the starters 30 minutes to score 10-20 points and yet you expect the rook to score a lot of points in 3-9 minutes a game. LOL!

The rook took 2 shots and made 1. How many points can a player score with took shots if both are made? 4-6 points. He made half (3).

Jeff Teague may have gotten a little bit extra minutes but he certainly only got 2 shot attempts out of the normal 15-21 shots JJ normally takes. So after looking at what the rook didn’t contribute, you gotta look at the flip side and see what he did. Two assists, 3 points, a trip to the freebie line, and only one personal foul.

Josh, Al, and Crawford took most of the shots (all in the teens), so they definitely better have more points than everyone else.

Speaking of Josh and Al. Feed a big get a win. Horford made those freebies count 6 out of 6 was just awesome. Smith however got to get those freebies 3 out of 8, ugggh. Rebounding was excellent, scoring in double figures. Double Trouble made the double doubles happen.

Bibby 2 out of 8 made, 1 out of 5 three point attempts. ugggh. But Bibby made up for it in getting 5 rebounds and 4 assists. Which explains his 32 minutes.

Marvelous scored 7 points out of 6 shot attempts and a trip to the freebie line, got an assist, a steal, and a block shot, and 3 rebounds. All this without attempting a 3 pointer. Anybody else get the feeling Marvin is holding back on us?

Mo and Zaza have been a joy to watch since they have been seeing more playing time. Scoring, rebounding, assists from Zaza.

Good to see coach going deep into the reserves. And good call on letting JJ rest up that thumb.

dap01

April 4th, 2010
11:04 am

Woody has such insightful thoughts after each game. It is shocking that people like Teague can not develop on those nuggets of wisdom.

dap01

April 4th, 2010
11:06 am

Teague got 8 minutes and he is singled out for not producing with extended minutes. Wow. Has Ken been watching Bibby lately?

ATL Hawks #1 Lady Fan/Mz. Hawkdafied

April 4th, 2010
11:08 am

Jamal Crawford was so hot from 3 point land he deserved a comment all on his own. Eighteen points from way out there. Just fantabulous. Many recognize the quickness of the rook. But J Craw has some pretty quick moves too. The way he gets to the baskets when he decides he want to take it there is like wait a minute where did he go? Jamal was not only scoring, he was assisting his team mates too. Six assists. Twenty nine freaking points. Three out of 4 freebies. I mean he was just doing the damn thang. He even added 2 rebounds. Just wow.

Jamal has already earned 6th man. Just give him the title right now.

Jody

April 4th, 2010
11:57 am

I don’t know if anyone else noticed, but for a few minutes in the fourth quarter last night, the Hawks went with Za Za, Horford and Smith up front together. A couple of things I noticed during that stretch were:

-The Pistons didn’t get any second chance points or opportunities.
-The Hawks got several second chance opportunities that led to BIG buckets.

I thought this was a good move by Woody as the pace of the game was more halfcourt, walk it up. In the playoffs, against bigger teams, I’d like to see the Hawks utilize that lineup more to control the defensive boards and to give them a little advantage on the offensive glass themselves.

darrell starks

April 4th, 2010
12:08 pm

Jody i like that line up come playoff time if we play cavs, orlando in the second round.
JAMAL, JOE, JOSH, HORFORD, ZAZA.
GO HAWKS!!!!!

darrell starks

April 4th, 2010
12:09 pm

Woody have 2 match up with orlando and cavs come playoff.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

April 4th, 2010
12:17 pm

To have a chance come playoffs against cavs and orlando the hawks must control the board other than that we have no chance, i really like that line up jody come playoff time, but the big Q is will woody change or will he stick with the same line up in the fourth against orlando and cavs if so the hawks will not beat neither team.
GO HAWKS!!!!!

Jody

April 4th, 2010
12:19 pm

darrell starks,

Being able to match up with bigger teams and control the boards is indeed critical for the Hawks to succeed in the playoffs and I think going to that lineup for certain stretches will help the Hawks do that (thought they could have used it against Cleveland Friday night). Some folks will be down on it and not like it because it will take a little more time from Marvin, but you have to matchup with bigger lineups.

darrell starks

April 4th, 2010
12:38 pm

100 PERCENT RIGHT JODY I HOPE WOODY IS READING THIS.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

JeJe

April 4th, 2010
1:17 pm

We all know Woodson and Marvin suck, but Marvin is at least a serviceable defender (good, but not great).

However, what will ultimately lead to our demise in the playoffs is the fact that Bibby CANNOT guard anyone in this league. What this means is that Woodson, who already has stiff rotations, will give Bibby few minutes against the quicker PGs (which is every other starting and bench PG in this league), Crawford will get burnt out play 38 minutes at PG every night, and we will therefore suffer.

I SAID BEFORE THE SEASON BIBBY HAD TO LOSE WEIGHT AND GET QUICKER BUT HE IS OBVIOUSLY OUT OF SHAPE. LOOK AT HIS UPPER BODY. HE HAS NO SPEED AND CAN TAKE NO POINT GUARDS OFF THE DRIBBLE. ALSO, HE CANNOT STAY IN FRONT OF ANYONE, NOR DOES HE TRY

cp

April 4th, 2010
1:23 pm

Great post as usual Big Ray. The way people were talking about Teagues performance last night one would think that maybe Bibby had a big game then. Well no. Bibby was worse than the rook if you consider the number of minutes Bibby played. Its like a few posters already said, what do you really expect in 9 minutes? He almost matched in 9 what the starter did in what 30. And I think its unfair to compare him to the other pgs from the draft considering a lot of them are either starting or playing 20 plus minutes per game. I’m sure he could match the big scoring output of Holiday at 7 points per game if he started like Holiday does.

Grandad

April 4th, 2010
1:55 pm

Big Ray:

In regards to Marv, I’m giving up. There are people on this board
(even rational, clear thinkers like O’B) who want Marv devalued so
much that they just want to give him away. They will not even concede
age, contract relative to age, anything. He is just a horrible human
being who doesn’t care, doesn’t try and is a detriment to society.
They don’t want to recieve any return value for him because then they
would not have a good enough reason to loathe him for years to come.
Heaven forbid he actually return a decent player via trade. Their
greatest hope is for him to fail elsewhere but if he were to succeed
then it would only be to spite the Hawks franchise because he is now, secretly refusing to utilize his talent, which would fly in the face of the prevailing theory of his current laziness and lack of inner drive.
Personally, I hope he goes to the Spurs and becomes an All-Star,
because ‘Pop’ knows how to recognize and utilize the skill set with which one has been blessed.

JeJe

April 4th, 2010
2:35 pm

While I picked Orlando over Dallas to win the NBA Championship (yes, I think Lakers are done if they play either Denver or Dallas), I would rather play Orlando over Cleveland. We just cannot beat Cleveland. We got destroyed by them in 4 games last year, added a better 6th man, but they added Shaq, Jamison, and Moon (all of whom they could probably survive without).

What makes people think we can compete with Cleveland in a series? They are way too damn physical, long, and good at shooting for us to compete. Orlando is deep as hell too — the deepest team in the league, but I somehow think Woodson can devise a defense to keep their shooters at bay.

While Woody’s defensive strategies are pretty overrated, he would do better against Orlando. If we could bust out Collins or RandMo in a few games, we could win a few games.

We just aren’t deep enough to compete for a title this year. We need to expand payroll by 20M and get more players like Matt Barnes and Gortat to round out this roster

CLYDE

April 4th, 2010
2:36 pm

THIS ISNT REALLY CLYDE, BUT FIRE WOODY

Hawks vs ...

April 4th, 2010
2:59 pm

Celtics are beating Cleveland.

Refs probably have a hard to officiating this game .. don’t know who to root for. Probably why Boston is winning

Melvin

April 4th, 2010
3:10 pm

Cavs dont want to see the Celtics in the 2nd round. They won’t be able to bully those old vets around like the Hawks…

sam'l

April 4th, 2010
3:20 pm

have followed the NBA for forever years and I didn’t even know who Jamal Crawford was. He is freaking amazing and seems like a decent guy off court. (Hawkdified ditto)

This goes against all rational thinking, but I feel really good about the Hawks going into the playoffs. I hope Woody decks Kidd in the finals. (Just Kidding. I don’t think Dallas will be there).

Sidenote: It was a real sense of freedom to actually visualize the Hawks going all the way. Try it. It feels good! Again, I didn’t say it was rational.

northcyde

April 4th, 2010
3:40 pm

Well . . at this moment . . the Cavs are down 2 with 16 seconds left ( after taking the lead briefly during a 25 – 5 run in the 4th quarter ). This will be a devastating loss if the Celtics lost this game . . because they were up 22 points at one point in the 4th quarter.

As for the Hawks, there is no doubt in my mind that we can win at least 2 home games vs any team we play in the playoffs.

Melvin

April 4th, 2010
3:51 pm

Got give Boston fans credit. You may have seen 2 Cavs jerseys in the stands….

glw

April 4th, 2010
3:59 pm

Watching that Celts/Cavs game brought back bad memories of the Hawks against the Cavs in recent years. I thought it didnt really matter who we played in the 2nd round, but I definitely would prefer seeing Orlando. While Howard can be dominating in his own right, King James always has the ball in his hand. Also with Bogut out for the rest of the season, definitely would love to see the Bucks in the 1st round.

O'Brien

April 4th, 2010
4:40 pm

Grandad,

I agree that Marvin is young, and there is still time to turn it around. But in 5 seasons, he has had 1 good year in my opinion.

And he is the 6th option, so I don’t know why Sund gave him that contract.

Marvin is a good team player, and as a hawks fan, I will continue to root for him. But if he does not step it up by the end of next season, I say trade him.

NUNNA YO BIZNEZZ

April 4th, 2010
5:45 pm

Don’t give me or others on here that,”teague has to play well in order to get minutes” crap!!
Games that he has played little and well,he rarely got to see time in the next game..When he comes in and plays for 5 minutes and plays well,and then we all get on here and say what a nice job he has done..and then come the next game,he either plays 3 minutes or none..WTF??

Where is the talk about his playing time then??

It just shows that woody does not have the patience to let this guy come in and play thru his mistakes..

As many mistakes,bad shots,and off nights that bibby has,he never takes him out a game..
Yes,bibby has a decent but incosistent shot..he has a great knowledge for the game,but his skills are eroding every year now..bibby had to have had a coach that let him play thru his mistakes and get to where he is today..If woody does not have vets in to just tell them what to do and he don’t have to coach,he will be lost..

this coach might know a little of the basics of baketball,but,he along with his coaching staff really do not have the makeup of a true staff..and,we win dispite of their coaching limits..

JeJe

April 4th, 2010
5:59 pm

While I picked Orlando over Dallas to win the NBA Championship (yes, I think Lakers are done if they play either Denver or Dallas), I would rather play Orlando over Cleveland. We just cannot beat Cleveland. We got destroyed by them in 4 games last year, added a better 6th man, but they added Shaq, Jamison, and Moon (all of whom they could probably survive without).

What makes people think we can compete with Cleveland in a series? They are way too damn physical, long, and good at shooting for us to compete. Orlando is deep as hell too — the deepest team in the league, but I somehow think Woodson can devise a defense to keep their shooters at bay.

While Woody’s defensive strategies are pretty overrated, he would do better against Orlando. If we could bust out Collins or RandMo in a few games, we could win a few games.

We just aren’t deep enough to compete for a title this year. We need to expand payroll by 20M and get more players like Matt Barnes and Gortat to round out this roster