Hawks Squawks: Hawks 119, Spurs 114 (OT)

– The playoffs have been a foregone conclusion for the Hawks for a while now so clinching is a bit anti-climatic. But, man, what a way to make it official.

– The Hawks came back from 14 down, the largest deficit they’ve overcome to win this season. “Fantastic,” Woody said of clinching. “We’ve still got a lot of work ahead of us. There’s still a lot of work to do before the playoffs. We’ve got to keep rolling. We’ll handle the playoffs once we get there.”

– The Hawks handled a Spurs team that wasn’t going to be an easy out no matter what the standings say. They have a history of winning in Philips. They are desperate to make the playoffs. Ginobili went for 38 and maybe 10 of those came with guys in his grill. Duncan had 29 and 13. The Spurs got calls. The Hawks started terribly.

– The Hawks still won because . . . well, because of pretty much everybody. J.J., Al Jamal and, I’ll be danged, Marvin all made winning plays–and I probably missed somebody.

– “We all play off of each other,” Jamal said. “Whoever is going good, we give it to him. There is no jealousy.”

– Jamal is going to the playoffs for the first time in his 10 pro seasons. “It’s unbelievable,” Jamal said. “I’ve waited a long time for this. I’m not taking this opportunity for granted.”

– The Hawks ended a seven-game losing streak to the Spurs. “It was good,” Bibby said. “We played hard. That’s been a top team and a top coach for years. We pulled it off. It’s a good win.”

– It was a good W. Give fans in Philips Arena an assist, too. They were hyped. It was fun.

– Give Horford credit. Duncan gave him all kinds of problems for most of the game but then Horford got even late– and I don’t just mean that big dunk on Duncan. He had 10 of his 18 rebounds in the fourth quarter and overtime, made a big jumper, had a big steal and made two clinching free throws.

– “Duncan frustrated Al early, then Al picked it up and hit his stride,” Woody said. “He had timely baskets and when we needed a rebound he was there.”

Mo had the most luck against Ginobili. The guy is a real pro. He stays ready, likes to mix it up and will make shots.

– What the heck got into Marvin? Woody has been on him lately about deferring too often. “He needs to not take a backseat to his teammates,” Woody said before the game. “It’s not about calling plays. (Shoot), I played 11 years and I got one or two plays called for me.”

– Marvin seemed to get the message. He scored 18 points in the first half—more than he’d scored in eight straight games coming in. Richard Jefferson blocked his shot but Marvin got it back and dunked. He made a fastbreak layup despite George Hill banging into him. And he made that jump shot at the halftime buzzer.

– Hard to believe that Hawks team going toe-to-toe with the Spurs late was the same group that looked so lost at the start. “They came out and established themselves in the first quarter and we didn’t respond well,” Woody said. “In the second quarter, we picked it up.”

– The Hawks hung in there by playing some D. They played the Spurs even in the third and had an advantage in the fourth. The Spurs wouldn’t go away, using a 7-0 run to take a 94-93 lead. “They are always going to be there at the end,” Jamal said. “You just have to give yourself a chance.”

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

124 comments Add your comment

Wabe

March 22nd, 2010
12:26 am

Great game tonight

guess i’m first.

SWAT Native

March 22nd, 2010
12:30 am

Props to Al for for 8 or 9 offensive rebounds!

jackwell

March 22nd, 2010
12:37 am

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Grandad

March 22nd, 2010
12:55 am

Re-posted from previous blog:

I was really proud of Marv tonight. That said:
‘Josh’ did something exceptional mid-way through the 4th.
Marv had not yet scored in the 4th
[as Nique later said, had not touched it].
(Jamal & Joe had taken almost all the 1st attempts in the 4th)
Josh with the ball, waved off Jamal, sought out Marv & fed him
for an open jumper. It’s little things like that,
people don’t notice, that seperates [a] player from ‘good’ player
into a ‘winner’. JOSH has become a winner! Great Teammate! He gets it.
Whoever questioned the young man’s basketball IQ?
I was really proud of Josh tonight.

Freshmaker

March 22nd, 2010
12:56 am

Awesome game tonight. Great job by the Hawks of fighting their way back into it against a veteran Spurs team. Nice game to build off as a team, and especially for Marvin. If he plays like this consistently, we are going to be a VERY tough out in the playoffs.

lewis

March 22nd, 2010
1:01 am

man al horford was not gonna lose tonight.
good win hawks, showed a lot of mental toughness to pull through with the w

drmaryb

March 22nd, 2010
1:11 am

I guess The Alien will resign in Cleveland on tomorrow. That rule is just wronge!

The Hawks have something special. Jamal said it best, there is no jelousy in that locker rooms. There is no cacancer on this team…(Un-like this blog). I’m just glad the players can ID the idiots who keep posting the pure negative stuff…just because they can.

Congrats to Obama & the real Party of YES! HealthCare is Reformed…that is change we can all believe in!
No more pre-existing conditions & cancelling policies if you become sick…etc.

Hawksfan

March 22nd, 2010
1:19 am

Great team effort and resilency!!

Najeh Davenpoop

March 22nd, 2010
1:24 am

drmaryb, Sam Cassell takes great offense to you calling Ilgauskas “The Alien”.

Josh

March 22nd, 2010
1:28 am

that was a solid game for those guys – stuck in there despite adversity… it was a better ending to a game they where they were down big and came back [like the raptors game]. and if marv can play aggressive like that consistently, we’d have another guy banging and rebounding. was a great game to watch!

sam'l

March 22nd, 2010
1:30 am

The Hawks played maybe their best basketball game in years against a team that really did not want to lose. Notice that with 14 seconds or so left, the Spurs trapped an inbounds pass and nearly stole the ball from Joe Johnson…then a couple of seconds later Manu grabbed the basketball for a jump ball (from Horford or Williams) only to be called for a foul. Down by four and playing like winners. Good lesson for the Hawks.

The Hawks seemed very very solid. I have never seen anyone play ball like Jamal Crawford. Joe, Al, Marvin (!), and Josh, and Mo (!) all stepped up….even Bibby managed to throw a couple of good inbound passes. The Hawks looked like a real team tonight.

drmaryb: Hope everything doesn’t cost twice as much in a few years. The real party of YES has already squandered billions on business creeps…if that money had gone to the poor for medical needs, that would have been from the heart. this is something else entirely…… .

JeJe

March 22nd, 2010
1:47 am

Great game. Manu looked amazing out there — the guy can still play the game of basketball. Could we sign him for cheaper if JJ bolts for NYK? There’s no denying that when healthy, Manu is nearly unstoppable

Najeh Davenpoop

March 22nd, 2010
2:17 am

“There’s no denying that when healthy, Manu is nearly unstoppable”

Yeah, and when healthy, Greg Oden is a pretty good player too.

Manu Ginobili is 33 and has never played a full NBA season. Yes, he’s a very good player, although he’s also pretty inconsistent. But any team that throws more than $40 million at him this offseason is going to regret it big time.

vava74

March 22nd, 2010
4:45 am

JeJe

Apart from other considerations (age, durability, etc) if the Hawks don’t resign JJ they will only have the midlevel exception to work with.

Given the projected salary cap for next year, that should be only 5,5 million per. Manu will certainly want more.

JJ had a difficult night but worked on defense and distributed the ball – 13 ass – don’t forget that he was responsible for 46 points.

Big Daddy

March 22nd, 2010
6:23 am

The Hawks won a very physical game and did not back down from the Spurs. Woody actually outcoached Popavich and although Joe did miss that shot at the end of regulation, everybody pulled together in OT for the win. Very proud of the guys tonight and if Marvin continues, he is going to show that he really did deserve to go that high in the draft.

O'Brien

March 22nd, 2010
7:16 am

Great win for the Hawks coaches and players. Even without Parker, the Spurs are still a very difficult team to beat. We weathered the storm early, and made the plays at the end.

Great game by Marvin. And he also had a great game against the Bobcats. Good job by Woody telling him to stop deferring so much. Marvin will be an X-factor in the playoffs, because teams will leave him open. Keep it up Marvin.

22 pts, 18 rebs, 8-15 from the field, and key plays. Where are all the Horford haters now? Give the guy his due.

2 constructive criticisms though.

1) Woody’s switching. Good teams will use it against us, and we must be able to adjust
2) Josh – stop shooting those jumpers. Pass the ball, or drive.

Other than that, great win. Hopefully our guys will have the energy to beat Milwaukee tonight. If not, our bench better be ready to come in and give valuable minutes.

jg

March 22nd, 2010
7:55 am

Awesome win last night!!!

Nice lift from Marvin–without him we’re blown away last night. Good to see him finally make an impact!

Listening to Mike and Mike this morning on ESPN radio and only caught one of their Radio Sportcenter’s and what a shock no mention of the Hawks win over the Spurs. It blows me away–they did mention two NBA games however–the Lakers beat the Wizards (oh boy) and the Cavs knocked off the Cavs. WHAT A BOUT THE BEST GAME OF THE DAY YOU MORONS–IT WAS ON YOUR NETWORK EVEN!!! No respect.

And would Popovich quit crying all ready??? Joe may have travelled but he was definitely fouled on the play and the ball did go out of bounds of George Hill. I did think we finally got a few calls last night–but the Spurs got just as many…Great game–now have to trump that win with another tonight. Go Hawks!!!

Hawk n the Ham

March 22nd, 2010
8:04 am

Made the trip in from Birmingham last night, and I’m glad I did! Awesome game, crowd was rocking, it was like a playoff game inside Phillips.

Marvin was BALLIN!!

The bench was the catalyst last night. When the 2nd team was on the floor, momentum changed. We made our run, and the 1st team picked up where the bench started for that big 2nd quarter run.

One note, I think Zaza leads the league in illegal screens, LOL :)

Nacho

March 22nd, 2010
8:10 am

If Marvin continues to grow in confidence, he alone will make the Hawks much better in the playoffs.

Good job by Josh to pass to him.

Crawford sounds like a great guy.

Samuel

March 22nd, 2010
8:14 am

mountain_jim

March 22nd, 2010
8:27 am

Finally the Hawks played a great game when it’s televised nationally, instead of the egg they usually lay when I get to watch.

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

March 22nd, 2010
8:27 am

Last night was the best Hawks win I’ve saw in a minute. What I’m noticing and liking is that more and more Hawks are contributing in crunchtime.
Horford seems like he is about to take that next step. He doesnt mind pounding the ball down low or taking the big shot. Dare I say it, but
even Marvin has shown up playing more confident in more games lately.

SEVERAL people did their thing in the 4th, as opposed to Joe and Josh trying to do too much (which I believe has killed the Hawks in a good bit of games)

In alot of our games in the 4th, it has seemed like on most possessions, Joe was dribbling into double teams and trying to shoot over them or Josh
Smith was trying to be a PG or SG. Well, I did see Josh fire up 1 or 2 deep jumpers in the 4th…so that’s still a problem…but I also
saw Horford and Marvin convert on high percentage shots in the paint….as opposed to lower percentage deep jumpers from a tired Joe or desperation
deep heave from Josh.

Despite those strides, to see if the Hawks as a team really took a step……….lets see if the Hawks can avoid going back the type of game that i HATE against the Bucks.

You know, the type of game where the Hawks seem to let the opposing teams have open lanes to the hoop for easy layups, and on O settle for Jumpers.

drmaryb

March 22nd, 2010
8:30 am

Najeh
Yeah Sam Cassell is definitely akin to Big-Z. They made a movie in the 80’s, it was titled: TyWINS.

drmaryb

March 22nd, 2010
8:40 am

Sam’l

What are you talking about? The DEMS didn’t bail out Wall Street? That legislation was passed in two days and was written on two pages – Before OBAMA was inaugurated on Jan. 20, 2009!

Let’ Celebrate change & please don’t feel sorry for the Ins. Co’s.

drmaryb

March 22nd, 2010
8:42 am

Bailing Out Wall Street …. Was. BUSH-LEAGUE!

Section 303

March 22nd, 2010
8:43 am

Maybe the best game of the year, so far. Crowd was great! Philips Arena can be one of the loudest arenas in the league.

Playoffs! Like Jamal said, I’m not taking the playoffs for granted, either. I remember the 13 win years. 3 years in a row with postseason games to attend. Nice!

drmaryb

March 22nd, 2010
9:01 am

Coach WOODY!

You called a great game. You know what your team CAN do & They executed. I admitt I thought a TO shouldhave been called on the last play in regulation, but you had the team you wanted on that floor & you trusted your guys to run that play on their own. JJ got two great looks before OT.

Great Job Coach! You whipped. Pop’s azz last nite & Larry Brown last week. For all of you that want old crusty azz HUBIE? He loves the ISO Joe & Crawford plays…”They’re unstop-able & terrific in iso-plays” -HUBIE

drmaryb

March 22nd, 2010
9:01 am

Coach WOODY!

You called a great game. You know what your team CAN do & They executed. I admitt I thought a TO shouldhave been called on the last play in regulation, but you had the team you wanted on that floor & you trusted your guys to run that play on their own. JJ got two great looks before OT.

Great Job Coach! You whipped. Pop’s azz last nite & Larry Brown last week. For all of you that want old crusty azz HUBIE? He loves the ISO Joe & Crawford plays…”They’re unstop-able & terrific in iso-plays” -HUBIE
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Mike is Back

March 22nd, 2010
9:02 am

Tremendous effort…GREAT WIN HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gwite

March 22nd, 2010
9:02 am

I know no one really wants to think about it too much, but I was really worried for Marvin when he took that awful tumble last night. Flashback of last year, around this time.

Really hope it doesn’t turn out to be something bothersome. Hopefully we can get up on Milwaukee and he can get some rest on the bench.

Funny, no complaints about minutes played these last 2 games? As always; whatever it takes.

GeeMack

March 22nd, 2010
9:06 am

O’Brien

I’m with you, I love the swithching defense when it works and give us the advantage.

However I saw Manu on the pick & roll several time keep calling it until he got the match up he wanted.

Good win for the Hawks. We got Orlando this week Atl. Please make a game of it. PLEASE!

JeJe

March 22nd, 2010
9:08 am

How the heck do we only have the MLE to work with if we don’t resign JJ? If the cap is 53M and the luxury tax starts at 68 (just throwing around numbers), then we have plenty of space to spend money without going into the LT. The owners need to get almost into the LT if not in order to elevate us to the next level

drmaryb

March 22nd, 2010
9:09 am

Coach WOODY!

You called a great game. You know what your team CAN do & They executed. I admitt I thought a TO shouldhave been called on the last play in regulation, but you had the team you wanted on that floor & you trusted your guys to run that play on their own. JJ got two great looks before OT.

Great Job Coach! You whipped. Pop’s azz last nite & Larry Brown last week. For all of you that want old crusty azz HUBIE? He loves the ISO Joe & Crawford plays…”They’re unstop-able & terrific in iso-plays” -HUBIE

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newkid

March 22nd, 2010
9:09 am

Didn’t realize we had been given special permission by the league on Saturday to execute a post-deadline trade; and that new cat we got in the deal for Marvin really looks like he’s going to be special.

A most entertaining game last night. Super crowd, and even MARTA wasn’t so bad.

terrell

March 22nd, 2010
9:35 am

Marvin getting the love. Haha. He’ll probably disappear tonight. But you guys are right, if he could play like this every 3, 4 games or so, we’d be hard to beat. Problem is, he usually does this about once every 10 games..

gwite

March 22nd, 2010
9:40 am

Well, I guess that means he has used up his allotments up for the season, as he’s had 2 great games in a row.

bigdave

March 22nd, 2010
9:44 am

Ray.. from last blog…

no crystal ball… i had no idea you even called the game? i didnt read a comment like that from you, but maybe you did… either way, its just funny to read especially when it proves untrue.. similar to when Nique’ calls a game a win thats still in the balance…

terrell

March 22nd, 2010
9:44 am

If Marvin can make that jump in year 6 like Josh Smith did, watch out. We’d be set in the frontcourt for years. That’s a BIG IF though.

Basic B-Ball

March 22nd, 2010
10:07 am

KEEP SHOOTIN JOSH!!!!!

Your shooting percentage is great. There are huge advantages (not shown in stats) to you popping up 4 or 5 jumpers a game.

Go Hawks!!!

Boneyard Randy

March 22nd, 2010
10:10 am

Great win last night. See everyone Wednesday night when we face Orlando…let’s make it a playoff atmosphere…this is our last chance to solve these guys before the playoffs. Try Collins/Randy-Moe/Joe S. at C for 20 min or so? What else we gonna do? The opposite? Go small and fast and try to out pace them? Just play our game and not worry about theirs? Woody, what are we gonna do?

Hawks Fever.

northcyde

March 22nd, 2010
10:36 am

JeJe

March 22nd, 2010
9:08 am

How the heck do we only have the MLE to work with if we don’t resign JJ? If the cap is 53M and the luxury tax starts at 68 (just throwing around numbers), then we have plenty of space to spend money without going into the LT. The owners need to get almost into the LT if not in order to elevate us to the next level

Because you can only go up to the salary cap to re-sign free agents. If you’re over the salary cap, you can then use the MLE/LLE to sign players.

Take JJ off of the Hawks payroll next year, and we’re still committed to like 47 – 48 million dollars in salary next year. And that number is even contingent on us dropping Childress . . . and adding the salary of our 1st and 2nd round picks next year ( unless we trade them away ).

If the salary cap is 53 million, and the Hawks payroll is already at 48 million, we only have 5 million to work with to sign free agents from other teams.

The luxury tax is in place, specifically so that teams can re-sign their OWN free agents by going over the salary cap. This is why we’ll be able to retain JJ, but not get a guy like Wade. We can’t go over the salary cap to sign Wade, but we can for JJ ( because we own his Bird Rights, which enables a team to go over the salary cap to retain that player ).

Technically, we can even go over the luxury tax to re-sign JJ, but most owners who don’t have a significant revenue stream coming in, don’t like to be in luxury tax land.

So to keep talking about Wade or Lebron coming him, is merely a pipe dream. The only way we could get any of those guys, is if we did a sign and trade for them, which would probably have to involve both Smoove or Horford . . and Crawford.

So even if we did bring a player the caliber of Wade here, he’s not going to be playing with the same crew minus JJ.

2 FOR JOHN DREW

March 22nd, 2010
10:37 am

Whatever team we’ve played this year, i would imagine that particular night how would the opposing team’s small forward fit in with the rest of our starters.And last night was no exception. That Marvin Williams fits in so beautifully w/ what the HAWKS need to do to make a serious run deep into this years play-offs !

PMC

March 22nd, 2010
10:38 am

I’d like to say AWESOME win and welcome to the NBA Marvin Williams.

northcyde

March 22nd, 2010
10:40 am

That first sentence should read:

Because you can only go up to the salary cap to sign free agents from other teams.

jerrywest

March 22nd, 2010
10:46 am

It was tragic comedy when the entire arena went “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO” as Josh shot his last jump shot. Do you think he got the point after that? He stopped himself from shooting couple of times since then.

jerrywest

March 22nd, 2010
10:49 am

When Marvin hustles like Chillz on the offensive board, his 7 feet wing span is a great advantage against swing forwards.

cdog

March 22nd, 2010
10:50 am

great job hawks and coach woodson and staff.as i write this illgaukas has not sign with the cavs yet, go after him rick sund, please.this will be the final piece in the puzzle.

hawfan2

March 22nd, 2010
10:50 am

Basic B-Ball : Josh shooting percentage is great? No, his attacking the basket for high-percentage shots around the rim are great. His dunks are great. His overall field goal of 50% is great. His jumpers? Got to be around 28% maybe, are terrible. Stop egging him on to shoot more jumpers!!!!!!!!!! He would be shooting 60%, better than Horford if he would stick to what works.

2 FOR JOHN DREW

March 22nd, 2010
10:53 am

Poor Flip !!!!!!!! ….. Haven’t heard jack from him !

KevinA

March 22nd, 2010
10:54 am

terrell,

Don’t look now but Marvin’s FG% is up to .451. Out star JJ is .456 and Jamal is sitting .453

Nimbers we can live with.