Atlanta Hawks at Milwaukee Bucks: Win And They Are In (Again)
Well, it turns out the Hawks haven’t clinched a spot in the playoffs after all. Elias Sports Bureau called the league to tell them that the Hawks would lose a tiebreaker if they lost all of their remaining games and finished in four-way tie for the final playoffs spot. Well, OK, then. The Hawks will clinch tonight if they win or Chicago loses to Houston. Really.
Anyway, at the moment the playoffs bracket looks like this. Assuming the Celtics are going to win the Atlantic, which is a safe assumption, they would win a tiebreaker with the Hawks. From NBA.com:
TIEBREAKER BASIS:
(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division
(2) Head-to-head won-lost percentage
(3) Division won-lost percentage
(4) Conference won-lost percentage
(5) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, own conference
(6) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, other conference
(7) Net Points, all games
Suddenly solid vet John Salmons, not super rook Brandon Jennings, is the story for the Bucks.
The Bucks loom as a potential playoff opponent. Normally the Hawks might not have too much concern about a team that hasn’t been anywhere near them in the standings and can’t match their talent. But these are not normal circumstances. The Bucks are just 38-30 but they are 14-3 since the All-Star break. More to the point, they are 14-2 since adding John Salmons in a trade.
You might remember how Salmons lit up the Hawks for 32 points during Milwaukee’s overtime loss at Philips Arena and did a respectable job checking J.J. until he got Iso-Joed at the end. What you may not remember is how Salmons joined the Bulls in a trade last season along with Brad Miller and helped catapult them to the playoffs. Now my man Charlie G at the Journal Sentinel notes Salmons is having a similar effect on the Bucks since the Bulls unloaded him to clear space for the summer free agent bonanza.
“When we were talking about making a move, we looked at him, and still do, as just a good, all-around pro guard,” Bucks coach Scott Skiles said. “He can post up a little bit. He shoots the ball well enough. He can put it on the floor and get to the rim. He can dish it if necessary. He’s a solid defender. He’s a professional and has a real calm demeanor out there, and that has helped our guys.”
Since the Bucks and Hawks strangely didn’t meet for the first time until the late date of Feb. 28, the Hawks can measure themselves against the new-look Bucks and not the team that was sputtering along at 24-28 before Salmons arrived. Looking at the game-by-game efficiency numbers, the Bucks seem to be a better team offensively with Salmons –they’ve topped 100 points in offensive efficiency in 13 of 16 of games with him after doing so in just 31 of 68 previously. Their rugged defense also hasn’t appeared to skip a beat on defense–they’ve held 11 of 16 opponents below 100 points in defensive efficiency with Salmons after doing so in 21 of 68 games before his arrival.
It should be noted that the Salmons Bucks didn’t go a good job stopping the Hawks in their first meeting and have had similar problems with the better offensive teams. But the Bucks also have more offensive punch with Salmons. This is all along way of saying the Bucks would be a dangerous opponent for the Hawks to face in the playoffs.
That’s assuming the Hawks really, truly clinch a postseason berth at some point.
MC
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371 comments Add your comment
gwite
March 22nd, 2010
5:01 pm
Thanks. Hope that settles all the tiebreaker questions for everyone.
gwite
March 22nd, 2010
5:03 pm
Did I miss out on something by not claiming “FIRST”?
Ree Roe
March 22nd, 2010
5:09 pm
I don’t understand how we could miss the playoffs if we lose out & CHI wins out considering we’d both be 45-37 and we took 3 out of 4 from CHI this season. Very odd…
-REEveal it to Roe!!!
Michael Cunningham
March 22nd, 2010
5:12 pm
@gwite: yes, you missed out on being lame
@ Ree Roe: i don’t understand, either. maybe it’s better if we don’t know.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
5:22 pm
I think it’s pretty stupid that the Hawks can go 4-0 against the Celtics and finish behind them just because the Celtics won their division. I thought the whole purpose of changing the system from the division winners being the top 3 seeds to only guaranteeing a top-4 seed to a division winner was to counteract the idea of a weak division winner ranking higher than a stronger 2nd place team in a better division. The idea that winning your division trumps head-to-head record violates the spirit of that rule change.
northcyde
March 22nd, 2010
5:22 pm
LOL @ 4-way tie. In that scenario, I guess they would eliminate us first, seeing that both Miami and Charlotte have a better divisional record than we do. What we did vs the Bulls wouldn’t even matter.
So in other words . . . . unless a 10 inch snowstorm hits Jamaica, we’re in the playoffs.
Sports Hall of Fame
March 22nd, 2010
5:28 pm
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DHD
March 22nd, 2010
5:30 pm
The present bracket is our best shot even if we have to play Cleveland. You have to go through them anyway, most likely and this way, we can hope for a Boston win over Orlando.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
March 22nd, 2010
5:31 pm
Dunno about you guys…but I’d rather face the Bucks than TOR, CHA or MIA in the playoffs….
Hawk n the Ham
March 22nd, 2010
5:34 pm
They can’t worry about the technicalities of how the playoff seeds are structured. Just gotta worry about winning out the rest of the season. That’s my coach-speak for the year.
I hope Marvin drinks that Red Bull or takes that HGH or whatever it is he took last night, again tonight! It feels good to say:
MARVIN WAS BALLIN!!!!
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
March 22nd, 2010
5:38 pm
I’m not a big fan of all the “lets hope we can avoid Orlando” talk.
When it boils down to it…we’re probably going to bump heads with them and/or Cleveland…and we simply have to BEAT them. If we think we are serious contenders, we cant go into the series already thinking we’re gonna lose
If they show up like they did last night, they’ll be a tough out!!!
What I’m looking for tonight is:
1) Does Marvin fade back into the background????
2) Will Josh stop forcing things in the 4th????
3) Will the Hawks’ D regress back to the point where it seems like the opposing team is running lay-up drills with clear paths to the hoop???
4. Will Horford stay in attack mode???
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
5:38 pm
From easiest to toughest, I’d rank the Hawks’ potential opponents like this: 1. CHI, 2. TOR, 3. MIL, 4. MIA, 5. CHA.
Marvin's Shot is Strange
March 22nd, 2010
5:39 pm
There was a stretch during the season where I thought the Hawks could beat just about any team. However, i believe that some players are struggling with their shots and unless they can get hot again i don’t see them getting past the secong round. I hope i am wrong!Go Hawks!!!!!
Ben
March 22nd, 2010
5:43 pm
So are you saying we have NO chance at the 3 seed since Boston will win the tiebreaker by winning their division and we won’t? So were stuck with the 4 seed no matter what now right?
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
5:44 pm
You can say what you want about regular season results. I don’t think there’s any way the current Hawks beat the Cavs in a 7 game series. The Cavs are bigger and just as athletic as the Hawks and have LeBron. Orlando is better than the Hawks too, but beating them is a matter of changing the mentality and strategic approach. In other words, it’s not likely but it can be done. Beating the Cavs ain’t gonna happen without a serious injury or a personnel change.
Eman
March 22nd, 2010
5:49 pm
The Hawks will lose in the second round again unless they play the Magic. I really feel that the hawks can beat the magic. I know they can not and will not beat the Cavs!!
Astro Joe
March 22nd, 2010
5:51 pm
Dang it, Jamal still hasn’t clinched a playoff berth.
Bucks have had a tremendous season and Skiles deserves serious COY consideration. But I have NO fear of them in a 7-game series. NONE.
ILL-logical
March 22nd, 2010
5:51 pm
Don’t expect a stellar performance from the Hawks tonight because of the emotional and physical toll of the Spurs contest. A back to back is tough enough as it is but after an overtime game whare your principals play 40 + minutes then have to get on a plane, it makes for some less than thrilling baketball.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
6:05 pm
“So were stuck with the 4 seed no matter what now right?”
Not if the Hawks finish with a better record than the Celtics. The Celtics beat the Hawks if both teams finish tied.
Ree Roe
March 22nd, 2010
6:05 pm
@ Ben, if the Hawks finish with a better record than BOS then we would finish seeded higher than them. If we finish with the same record as BOS, they will be seeded higher than us by virtue of them being a division winner.
Big game tonight…let’s see how fatigued we are especially with our transistional defense (which has been a struggle the past few months).
-REEap what you Roe!!!
Harpie
March 22nd, 2010
6:06 pm
The Hawks won’t win anything of significance as long as they have that lousy coach…..
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
6:07 pm
On a totally non-basketball related note… what are the odds?
clarkekent
March 22nd, 2010
6:08 pm
najeh – we have woodson as a coach .. he changes nothing! to change means to adjust .. he make no adjustments … we get swept by ORL and lose in 6 to CLE.
bigeasy830
March 22nd, 2010
6:27 pm
I was at the game last night, first game of the season took the family and caught the best game of the season. The Hawks fought back from a 1st half deficit and won a close on in OT. I had great seats in section 120, We were close enough to where my wife noticed and commented on Time Duncan shoe size, and it upset me a little that she was staring at that multi-millionaire feet but oh well, (LOL). I tell you Jamal Crawford puts on a show. He makes moves that I thought could only be made in the video games. He was playing like one of those And 1 guys but Jamal have actual skills. We got us a great one in him. I hop e we don’t lose Joe in free agency, but if we do and Marvin can step up and play consistently well Jamal will be a 30 point a game scorer next year for us for sure if Joe decides to leave. But back to this season, hopefully ZaZa will step up in the play-offs as he have done the past couple of seasons and we can stay healthy, if that happens we all know the Hawks pick up their intensity come play-off time and when that happens we can beat anyone. We just need Marvin to stay aggressive. He played great last night driven to the basket and spotting up. But any way,
GOOOOO Hawks,
i_am_soulstar
March 22nd, 2010
6:39 pm
No way do you want Joe leaving and Jamal starting. The role of a starting 2 guard and a 6th man playing 2 guard are absolutely different. The 6th man is just expected to come in and score, score, score. Rebounds, assists, steals, defense, and scoring is the responsibility of the starter. Jamal’s awesome offensively and maybe even better than Joe as far as scoring goes, but Joe is just the better all-around player.
Plus, I’d really miss the heck out of his mid-range game in tight end-of-the-game situations.
i_am_soulstar
March 22nd, 2010
6:41 pm
And as great as Marvy Marv played last night, he’s just not the one to hang your season hopes on.. Unless you can get Kobe or D. Wade, Joe Johnson, like it or not, is irreplaceable..
jmarable
March 22nd, 2010
6:42 pm
Tonite is the nite the hawks need to B playoff minded, back 2 back test.Pass or Fail? playoff team we may meet.Pass or Fail. Lets see what the birds r made of. Everbody plays back to back. U see the spurs next few games? Betcha they handle the next few games because real good teams handle ther business.Dont think the hawks have grown up yet. they cant handle whats being asked of them. they will play lazy tonite watch. They dont want it enough, they can settle 4 just being good. cant u tell?
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
6:51 pm
Does anybody else agree with me that in the Pre Game the Hawks need to listen to some DMX so they can come out with some extreme intensity. Becuz I’m tellin u after listenung to a couple DMX songs u will be ready to bit someones head off.
bigdave
March 22nd, 2010
6:52 pm
MC..
what is the link that you sometimes post that has the exclusive game day shoes of players… Joe was featured on there before sporting the blue and white 12’s…
im trying to find the footwork Joe had on last night…
josh
March 22nd, 2010
7:03 pm
dangit, im gonna be in class when the game starts – hope i can catch the tail end.
Michael Cunningham
March 22nd, 2010
7:18 pm
@ bigdave: http://www.nicekicks.com/
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
7:36 pm
Does anybody else agree with me that in the Pre Game the Hawks need to listen to some DMX so they can come out with some extreme intensity. Becuz I’m tellin u after listening to a couple DMX songs u will be ready to bite someones head off.
gwite
March 22nd, 2010
7:52 pm
^^^
Guess not!
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
March 22nd, 2010
7:56 pm
VenomSpitter, being that they are based in ATL, they dont even have to go to DMX….they can find any random crunk song by any random ATL artist to get fired up….h3ll, they can listen to random stuff currently on the radio now like “All The Way Turn’t Up” or “Oh, Lets Do It” to get fired up…but personally I’d be on that Pastor Troy.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:02 pm
Yea Pastor Troy should do it. They must be listening to some vanilla Ice the way they come out in some games lol
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
8:05 pm
Beating Spurs last night, first time in 5 years was SUPER SWEEEEEEEEET!!!
Another big game tonight! Player I’m most keen on checking out is Marvin Williams.
northcyde
March 22nd, 2010
8:06 pm
Back in my b-ball playing days, what used to do it for me, was Public Enemy.
******
“Fight the Power”
“Prophets of Rage”
“Brothas Gonna Work It Out”
“Welcome to the Terrordome”
“Rebel Without a Pause”
Those last 3 songs especially, used to do it for me. I’d be out on the court while playing, with those melodies in my head. Public Enemy is arguably the greatest rap group of all time, not only because of Chuck D’s anti-establishment lyrics, or Flavor Flav’s clowning . . but also because the sound production on their tracks were so hype.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
March 22nd, 2010
8:09 pm
anything to amp them up would work, instead of Josh rubbing on Bibby. That clip is ALL OVER the net.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:09 pm
The Bomb Squad had some hard hitting beats.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:10 pm
LOL @ Mac. Yea they need to get pumped up.
northcyde
March 22nd, 2010
8:11 pm
When you talk about road games, you usually need your star players to play great. The role players usually tend to play better at home ( ala Marvin ).
So tonight, we can’t afford an 8 – 23 FG night from JJ. He needs to be *ON* . . . and *ON* early. Same with Crawford.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:11 pm
Here we go
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:13 pm
I see Brandon Jennings got rid of that Bobby Brown throwback gumby haircut
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:17 pm
Aww sh*t I forgot we’re not on ESPN so we gotta hear Nique’s HEAT CHECK
Freshmaker
March 22nd, 2010
8:18 pm
Anyone have an internet link to watch the game by chance? My dish is messed up and I can’t get it to work. =/
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
March 22nd, 2010
8:20 pm
Brandon Jennings always come out lookin like he’s some character on a 90s sitcom…or late 80s-90s R&B group
He’s like a mix of Tevin Campbell and “Play” from “Kid-N-Play”
Bucks suck…whole team is weird..
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
8:21 pm
blowing layups ,too many jumpers ,crazy turnovers ahhh a typical hawks first quarter
Cannon
March 22nd, 2010
8:21 pm
Where is our offensive movement? It seems like all we’ve done so far it toss in to either Smoove, or big AL and they try to get penetration, but everyone else just sits there and watches.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
March 22nd, 2010
8:23 pm
I dont know why it’s so hard for them to stay active on O. Good things always happen when they are.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
March 22nd, 2010
8:24 pm
no rim on that shot
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
8:25 pm
The Hawks D is smothering so far
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
8:25 pm
Damn Bibby mustve thought it was 2001 all over again . Trainer better have those heat pads ready tonight
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
March 22nd, 2010
8:25 pm
Al is REALLY confident in his game right now
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:26 pm
Does anybody think teague will see the floor lol
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
8:26 pm
Jamal needed that roll
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:27 pm
Joe coulda passed that back to Bibby. Come on Joe
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
8:29 pm
JT0 will get his usual 5-7 minutes. What I wish e’d do during that time is run the offense like he knows how to instead of standing at the top of the key dribbling
Cannon
March 22nd, 2010
8:33 pm
That was CLEARLY a 2, but the Bucks were given 3! WTF???
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
8:33 pm
Good start. No worries so far.
iREPATL
March 22nd, 2010
8:35 pm
http://tv9sports.110mb.com/index.php?p=1_2_CH1 link to the game 4 those who cnt watch
Cannon
March 22nd, 2010
8:35 pm
Just ran it back on my DVR, and the dudes foot was way over the 3 point line. Watch us lose by one.
Sautee
March 22nd, 2010
8:35 pm
One free throw in a quarter. We need to take it inside.
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
8:35 pm
Gotta hit the defensive glass harder those offensive rebounds are the difference in the game right now .
Ree Roe
March 22nd, 2010
8:36 pm
lol @ Mac. Its obvious our bench will be huge for us in this game…ZaZa, Joe & Mo will need to be huge for us to win this game.
-REEpeal of Roe!!!
Melvin
March 22nd, 2010
8:37 pm
Oh well, look like its no teague tonight. I guess he’s fatigue from playing 4mins last night.
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
8:37 pm
It really irks me when we run these plays for people and they turn it over carelessly and then people wonder why they never get plays ran for them,
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
8:41 pm
Air Zaza
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:41 pm
LOL @ zaza with the airball
terrell
March 22nd, 2010
8:41 pm
Zaza is awful!
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
8:42 pm
Was that an airball ? seriously Zaza ……
Wabe
March 22nd, 2010
8:44 pm
Bench getting good minutes here in the 2nd quarter. But where’s JT0?
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
8:44 pm
Bench making a good showing tonight. We’ll need that down the stretch.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:46 pm
Jamal is Lethal
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
8:46 pm
Move that ball
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:47 pm
OMG Josh stop with your stupid azz jumpers.
Josh’s jumpers= a sure turnover
bigdave
March 22nd, 2010
8:47 pm
i like it…
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:47 pm
Is anybody else sick of Josh’s jumpers besides me.?????????????????????
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
8:48 pm
That was Jamal’s fault for passing it to him there
joBjo
March 22nd, 2010
8:48 pm
Sweet Georgia Brown played by the band before games always got me fired up. I guess that makes me old.
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
8:48 pm
Jamal has one hell of a career highlight reel for someone who has never been to an all star game
Wabe
March 22nd, 2010
8:49 pm
I actually don’t mind him taking that jumper from time to time, because I think his jumper has come a long way. I’ll admit, he still has a long way to go to be an effective 4-guy that can stretch the floor, but if he can start knockin down that 15-20 footer on a daily basis, he’d be even scarier.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:49 pm
JOSH IS SHOOTING 29% ON HIS JUMPERS. HE IS HORRIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO SHOOTING AND HE THINKS HE IS RAY ALLEN.
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
8:49 pm
cmon now why not go to jamal who has the rookie on him ?
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
8:49 pm
Never been yet, you mean, right Sleepy?
Cannon
March 22nd, 2010
8:50 pm
@VenomSpitter
I’m tired of Smiths jumpers. He should never take a shot outside of the paint.
Sautee
March 22nd, 2010
8:50 pm
VenomSpitter,
I’m only sick of the ones he misses.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:50 pm
Wait a minute. U don’t mind a guy shooting 29% on his jumpers taking that shot. Are u serious?
Sautee
March 22nd, 2010
8:50 pm
And too early in the shot clock.
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
8:51 pm
Excellent team D. GO HAWKS!
terrell
March 22nd, 2010
8:52 pm
Dominique rushing to get Joe back in the game. We’re up by 5 on the road. Let the man get his rest. We’ll need him in the 4th.
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
8:52 pm
your right Hawksfan 11 I should say “yet” because with the way he is playing if he has a good playoff run and we do well I think he will get rewarded with an all star appearance next year. They are almost always a year late in these situations .
Jody
March 22nd, 2010
8:54 pm
In order to open things up for the drive, Josh does have to take some jumpers. Not a whole lot, but he has to take some. You can’t drive on every play. It’s not always there.
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
8:54 pm
HOSS!
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
8:54 pm
Im not even going to speculate as to why Woody subbed out our hottest player who had a rookie guarding him .
terrell
March 22nd, 2010
8:55 pm
And 1. Yeah Horford is too small to play center. lol!
vava74
March 22nd, 2010
8:55 pm
Al has a speed advantage against Bogut. We should feed him more to try and get him in foul trouble.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:55 pm
Josh takes LONG jumpers instead of mid range jumpers. He seriously thinks he’s Larry Bird.
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
8:55 pm
nice big Al working it thats the way you have to do when they are as big as Bogut . You gotta go right at him and get him off balance
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
8:56 pm
Al is putting in work
Melvin
March 22nd, 2010
8:56 pm
Nice pass from Josh to Al…
Wabe
March 22nd, 2010
8:56 pm
Man, the Hawks have been playing some great basketball here lately.
Ree Roe
March 22nd, 2010
8:57 pm
Bawse
-REEly on Roe!!!
J.J.M.
March 22nd, 2010
8:57 pm
horford playing like somebody stole something from him
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
8:57 pm
Ball movement is fantastic tonight. The whole team is just in sync on both ends. I’m loving it.
Jody
March 22nd, 2010
8:59 pm
Considering the fact that Josh is essentially a small forward (size wise) playing power forward and he busts his hump and expends so much energy every night, I can live with and understand why he takes the occasional long jumper. He doesn’t have limitless energy all the time.
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
9:00 pm
Horford much read the blogs
J.J.M.
March 22nd, 2010
9:01 pm
3 pointer keeping them in the game
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
9:01 pm
Jamal is on fire
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
9:01 pm
Don’t forget Hawks fans, email all the local sportscasters and remind them that there’s a pro basketball team from Atlanta that’s doing serious work. Film at 11 please?
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
9:03 pm
cmon someone lock in on Delfino
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
9:03 pm
Man I hope Woodson doesn’t break Jamal’s spirit. He’s the one guy that gets chewed out coming off a turnover.
Melvin
March 22nd, 2010
9:03 pm
Red hot shooting from the Hawks in the 1st half….
Jody
March 22nd, 2010
9:03 pm
Great play out of the timeout!
joBjo
March 22nd, 2010
9:03 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY8de2-UCrY
Bibby bails out Crawdad. that’s team work.
Sautee
March 22nd, 2010
9:04 pm
Bibby had Crawford’s back.
BONE
March 22nd, 2010
9:04 pm
smmmmmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaackdddddddddd………….the bucks are hype THEY WILL GET SWEPT IN THE PLAYOFFS I GUARNTEE IT
vava74
March 22nd, 2010
9:04 pm
We are depending on the jump shot… If we start to shoot jar a mite worse we will be in trouble since we are giving away too many offensive rebounds…
J.J.M.
March 22nd, 2010
9:05 pm
wats up bone
Sautee
March 22nd, 2010
9:05 pm
Props to Woody for that play coming out of the time out.
Folks, he keeps improving as a coach.
P. Bull Terrier
March 22nd, 2010
9:05 pm
The Atlanta Spirit Group can’t even clinch a playoff berth right.
O'Brien
March 22nd, 2010
9:06 pm
Good First half for the Hawks. Lets not give up a run in the 3rd quarter.
That being said, what’s up with Josh’ FG %? Last night he went 5-16, and tonight he is 1-5. Isn’t it strange to see him with bad shooting games 2 nights in a row?
vava74
March 22nd, 2010
9:07 pm
Jamal is one of the most exciting players in the league.
When he is on, he excites us. When he’s off he excites the other team…
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
9:08 pm
O’Brien thats becuz all Josh has been doin lately is just shoot dumb long jumpers. And he doesn’t see how stupid it is to do that.
vava74
March 22nd, 2010
9:09 pm
Josh has been in love with his jump shot lately… Hence his bad shooting nights.
He has been launching between 4 to 6 bad shots per game.
Ree Roe
March 22nd, 2010
9:10 pm
Bibbridge at the buzzer! Impressive first half by the Hawks. Jamal & Al keyed that first half for us. Great defense by the Hawks in that 2nd Q too
-I REEk of Roe!!!
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
9:11 pm
Craw with his average at halftime off the bench !!
Bibby with his average at the half !!
Al with 10 and 5 at the half I fully expect 20 and 10 out of him tonight !!
nice first half on the road now lets go and close out this back to back ..We know they will make a run but lets put so much distance between us that it doesnt matter .
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
9:14 pm
If Hawks win tonight, which they should, the Bucks fans are gonna be mighty disappointed, because they have been quite passionate for their ballclub.
bigdave
March 22nd, 2010
9:16 pm
lol @ 73% Vin Baker….
KevinA
March 22nd, 2010
9:18 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rek3g8znpOg
KevinA
March 22nd, 2010
9:20 pm
that is how it is done
Ree Roe
March 22nd, 2010
9:21 pm
lmao @ those poll numbers. You’ve got Lew Alcindor, Sidney Moncrief, Bob Lanier & Oscar Robertson as choices for the best Buck of all time & 73% of the vote goes for Vin Baker. What?!? lmao. Does anyone on here vote in those text it in polls?
-no REEgrets for Roe!!!
Hawk n the Ham
March 22nd, 2010
9:21 pm
Bring on the Bucks in the 1st round! I bet Michael Wilbon of PTI will change his prediction the Bucks to beat the Hawks in the playoffs…..Dingleberry.
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
9:21 pm
Celtics out of the gate quick versus Utah.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
9:23 pm
Uh oh send in teague bibby is hurt lol
Hawk n the Ham
March 22nd, 2010
9:23 pm
LMAO. Jennings just got him a handful of ‘Little Bibby’.
Jody
March 22nd, 2010
9:24 pm
That was funky KevinA!
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
9:25 pm
Has Marvin even touched the ball 2day? I mean damn. I can’t say he’s played bad becuz they haven’t let him do anything
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
9:28 pm
They tried to post marvin up and he stumbled and lost the ball
hes also missed a corner three
hes 1-2 with 3 tos
his contract stipulates two performances like last night a month so hes trying to save his next for this weekend
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
9:28 pm
Now I KNOW that Al reads this blog.
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
9:29 pm
Anytime Joe is wide open for the jumper, you know 90% of the time he is making that shot.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
9:29 pm
The Bucks are a pretty good defensive team with Mbah a Moute on the floor, but in both games Atlanta has played against them, I kinda see the rest of the team have the mentality that Bogut is going to get the rebounds so they don’t have to. When Bogut is out of position it’s like they give up on the board.
I think they are a good team, but they are not coming close to beating the Hawks in a 7 game series.
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
9:30 pm
Inspected – rejected. Employee #5
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
9:31 pm
Agreed Najeh
Hawk n the Ham
March 22nd, 2010
9:31 pm
Nique said, “Crawford too open on that shot”. LOL. I guess he needed some ‘Nimbers’ in his face
Jody
March 22nd, 2010
9:31 pm
Great step back jumper by Josh and then the fly swat rejection.
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
9:34 pm
Compared to last night versus Spurs, this game is so free of drama, intrigue, plots and sub-plots that it is so….Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn!!!!
Oh, well, Magic comes next………..
Hawk n the Ham
March 22nd, 2010
9:35 pm
Bogut = Dingleberry
bigdave
March 22nd, 2010
9:35 pm
loss the pass Nique?
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
9:35 pm
Was that 6′10″ Al Horford rejecting 7′0″ Andrew Bogut and forcing a turnover?
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
9:36 pm
“Compared to last night versus Spurs, this game is so free of drama, intrigue, plots and sub-plots that it is so….Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn!!!!”
Heh… let’s hope it stays that way. The Hawks could use a drama-free game. 4 games in 5 nights ain’t no joke.
In other news, Nique just called Luke Ridnour a “baby Kareem”.
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
9:36 pm
Jamal is da TRUTH!
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
9:38 pm
Come on Joe pass the damn ball
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
9:40 pm
I dont understand why we are helping on Bogut he hasnt done anything at least make him make a successful low post move before we start sending someone at him . The threes are whats keeping them in the game not Bogut
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
9:40 pm
The Hawks finally catch a fair officiating crew.
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
9:40 pm
You so right, Najeh, especially now Bucks have cut the lead to 7. We could see some drama at the end, though I think/hope Hawks should be able to close it out with no last minute issues.
Freshmaker
March 22nd, 2010
9:41 pm
iREP, thanks much for the link earlier! The feed works great man. Appreciate it.
Hawk n the Ham
March 22nd, 2010
9:42 pm
Did you hear they are making a new NBA Jam game? This might be the best 3 man team on the entire game…..
1. Joe Johnson
2. Jamal Crawford
3. Josh Smith
Sautee
March 22nd, 2010
9:44 pm
GREAT substitution by Woody to get Josh in the game to block the last shot of the quarter.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
9:45 pm
So, uh, is Teague injured or something, or should we just give up on seeing any minutes for him whatsoever? 0 minutes so far. Woody just emptied his bench and Teague’s still plastered to the bench.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
9:46 pm
The Hawks have been playing well recently, but damn, Orlando has been on fire. They have beaten the good teams and destroyed the bad ones recently. Hope the Hawks can be the buzzsaw to their win streak, but I’ll be satisfied with just a close game on Wednesday after the way the first meetings have gone.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
9:48 pm
Did Mo evans slap Kurt Thomas’ azz lol
Jody
March 22nd, 2010
9:48 pm
Mo really has a hard time finishing around the rim.
Ree Roe
March 22nd, 2010
9:48 pm
I’m surprised so many of yall are acting like this game is over considering our track record in close games. I expect this to come down to the wire
-REE Roe!
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
9:48 pm
5 point game!
Here comes the drama!
bigdave
March 22nd, 2010
9:49 pm
it sounds like a futbol match in there…
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
9:49 pm
here we go again…
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
9:49 pm
OMG we can’t stop the REIGN LOL
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
9:49 pm
Choke time
Rod from College Park
March 22nd, 2010
9:50 pm
Great game by Marvin. LOL Can we please stay on the shooters?
Wabe
March 22nd, 2010
9:50 pm
The Hawks gotta withstand this run.
Sautee
March 22nd, 2010
9:51 pm
So do we think we can just outshoot these guys?
We need some D.
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
9:53 pm
Here we go with the ‘choke time’, ‘pathetic’ comments again. Game ain’t over yet!
O'Brien
March 22nd, 2010
9:53 pm
Blast,
Is this the drama you were looking for? 4 point game.
Where is Marvin tonight?
J.J.M.
March 22nd, 2010
9:53 pm
smh no D
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
9:53 pm
Hawk n the Ham
March 22nd, 2010
9:42 pm
Did you hear they are making a new NBA Jam game? This might be the best 3 man team on the entire game…..
1. Joe Johnson
2. Jamal Crawford
3. Josh Smith
That’s amazing to hear wow!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
9:54 pm
Yeah, looks like Duck celebrated April Fools Day early and now he’s back to normal…
Rod from College Park
March 22nd, 2010
9:54 pm
O’Brien,
Where is Marvin tonight?
He’s back….
J.J.M.
March 22nd, 2010
9:54 pm
choke
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
9:55 pm
come on, not another blown road win!
Rod from College Park
March 22nd, 2010
9:55 pm
Can we stay on Salmon’s please.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
9:55 pm
OMG Josh has sucked this game
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
9:55 pm
Salmons is a good player, but what the hell is it about him that makes the Hawks turn him into a superstar? I would think on a team with the swingmen the Hawks have it shouldn’t be that hard to check him.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
9:55 pm
Like I said Josh has been horrible lately
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
9:55 pm
Real big time drama now.
J.J.M.
March 22nd, 2010
9:55 pm
ok he clearly push josh out the way
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
9:56 pm
JJ keeping us in it
J.J.M.
March 22nd, 2010
9:56 pm
jumpshots
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
9:57 pm
This is something I have to say for Woody, that probably doesn’t get the attention it deserves:
When a player is developing and improving in a significant fashion, such that as can benefit this team….Woody is not holding that player back.
We’ve accused Woody of holding Marvin back from being a better player. Has he really? We’ve watched Marvin do great things at times (but not that often). He stepped up against the Spurs, but has he always done that when given the opportunity? Has he always done what needed doing when we needed him to do it?
I’d have to say “no.”
Now take Al Horford. All of the sudden, Horford has shown that he can be a presence in the paint on the offensive end, and a guy we can run our offense through as needed. Not in every single case or in every single game, but quite steadily enough that it’s become a staple of our offense.
Woody hasn’t gotten in the way of this, and Al is blossoming…
Wabe
March 22nd, 2010
9:57 pm
Switching is killing us.
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
9:57 pm
wish we could keep a lead
Melvin
March 22nd, 2010
9:57 pm
Last night Manu, tonight Salmons. Take keep running pick and roll plays so the Hawks switch the bigs on their guards….
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
9:57 pm
Josh has taken the month off
terrell
March 22nd, 2010
9:58 pm
Just as I thought. Marvin disappears again with 2 pts.
J.J.M.
March 22nd, 2010
9:58 pm
welp back to tna
Jody
March 22nd, 2010
9:59 pm
Great point Big Ray.
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
9:59 pm
J.J.M.
March 22nd, 2010
9:58 pm
welp back to tna
idk how you can watch that man, its pretty bad
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
10:00 pm
Hawks need to move the ball and grind down on defence! Celtics beating Jazz. Chicago beating beating Rockets. Do Hawks care about securing a playoff spot with a win tonight?
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
10:00 pm
On a related note, I think we are seeing some physical evidence, lately, of why Josh Smith didn’t make the ASG, and Al Horford did.
I know it seems like Smith had done more for the team at the time. Maybe he did. But can anybody deny what we’re seeing NOW?
Speaking of Josh Smith, he’s playing like poo poo lately. Last night was enough to get by. Tonight is another story.
Meanwhile, we need to withstand this early 4th quarter run, and go on one of our own.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:00 pm
Another choke. I’m sick of this sh*t
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
10:01 pm
lol bibby shot that like a girl
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
10:01 pm
Joe doesnt take Salmons seriously and Salmons puts it to him everytime so far . Its a respect thing if it was Kobe he would be so mad that Salmons had 30 in ATL that he wouldve been all over Salmons from the jumpball but Joe is a live and let live type
Wabe
March 22nd, 2010
10:01 pm
Horford watches a guard pull-up right over him from the top of the key.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
10:01 pm
Nice post-up Josh. Good things happen when he posts up… even when he’s having an off night.
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
10:02 pm
Smoove woke up, we are feeding the bigs can’t believe it
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
10:03 pm
Oh look, Rod is back. Who would have ever guessed…
Hawk n the Ham
March 22nd, 2010
10:03 pm
Guys, stop talking about Smoove….He can apparently hear you.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
10:03 pm
Big Ray, just as you say that, Josh takes over the game like he has all year.
Horford has outplayed him in the last few games. It doesn’t invalidate the fact that Josh has been the Hawks’ engine all year.
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
10:04 pm
free throws free throws
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
10:04 pm
My advice to Smoove: work on that jumper over the summer. Not down the stretch of the regular season.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
10:05 pm
Good rotation on that possession. They didn’t close out on Stackhouse as quick as they probably should, but it worked out.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:05 pm
Why pass it to Josh. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
10:05 pm
WTF?????????
Wabe
March 22nd, 2010
10:05 pm
Can you blame Josh for that jumper?
Look how much time was left on that shotclock.
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
10:05 pm
pitiful
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
10:05 pm
Damn, and just as I say that, Smoove just got posterized…
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
10:05 pm
Najeh ,
I didn’t say he wasn’t the team’s engine. I said there is a reason why Josh didn’t get named to the ASG, and Al did. This is just one reason. And you forget, you are talking to a diehard Josh fan…
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:05 pm
I swear the hawks are dumb. what makes u think passin to josh for a jumper is a good idea
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
10:06 pm
Nice block smoove
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
10:06 pm
Great team defense… hold up Bogut with one man and let the other man slap that weak-ass sh-t out of there.
Jody
March 22nd, 2010
10:06 pm
And do you see who Josh is posting up? Small forwards and swings can’t guard him in the post.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:06 pm
Yes I can blame Josh. He shouldnt be out that damn far. He plays PF.
Get off Josh’s nuts damn.
bigdave
March 22nd, 2010
10:06 pm
this is quality entertainment…
Hawk n the Ham
March 22nd, 2010
10:06 pm
If Smoove blocks one more of Bogut’s shots, he’s gonna hurt his feelings.
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
10:07 pm
It’s not that Smoove has been outplayed by Horford. It’s that Horford has shown more toughness and leadership lately.
However, it’s clear that the two make one heck of a tandem, and there are things that Smoove can do that Horford cannot. And vice versa.
Wabe
March 22nd, 2010
10:07 pm
lol
I guess I’m on Josh’s nuts.
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
10:07 pm
No Wabe, I blame Joe for that. He had the shot in the lane.
bigdave
March 22nd, 2010
10:08 pm
clutch shots from Joe… when we’ve needed buckets the past few games he has delivered…
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
10:08 pm
box out and get the rebound its 2 seconds on the shotclock
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
10:08 pm
That’s how it works.
Horford can body up just about anybody in the post through strength, leverage, and outright desire.
Smoove can block just about any shot, coming from any angle.
Neither player can do what the other does. Together, they are deadly.
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
10:08 pm
Lately, Hawks can never seem to play a game where they blow their opponents out without putting us on tenterhooks. Here we go again!
Then again: Tune them up for the playoffs, win or lose.
Jamal needs more shots.
Wabe
March 22nd, 2010
10:08 pm
On his nuts? What did Josh do wrong being out that far? It’s obvious everybody else cleared out just as they always do when JJ goes ISO. Why should Josh get blamed for doing what he’s done on every possession Joe goes ISO?
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
10:08 pm
Yeah, Joe has played great tonight.
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
10:09 pm
Wabe ,
Make room for me. I’ve been accused of residing in his scrotal area for years…
Jody
March 22nd, 2010
10:10 pm
That call was GARBAGE!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
10:11 pm
Bucks call a timeout… let’s see what they draw up.
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
10:11 pm
bad shot by Joe, why do we play games like this every night now lol
Hawk n the Ham
March 22nd, 2010
10:11 pm
And, here. we. GO!
Jody
March 22nd, 2010
10:11 pm
Not a good shot from Joe. You have to stop being so predictable on offense.
Wabe and Big Ray,
Co-Sign.
bigdave
March 22nd, 2010
10:12 pm
LETS GET IT!!!
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
10:12 pm
Wabe ,
Because he’s not Joe. Heh…
I know y’all are gonna laugh at this one, but has anybody noticed how Brandon Jennings has played against us this year? Especially tonight.
Pardon me for the joke of the evening, but he looks like he should be playing behind Teague…
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
10:12 pm
wtf is joe doing?
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:12 pm
What was Joe doin. That was obvious
Wabe
March 22nd, 2010
10:13 pm
WHY JJ DID THAT LEAVES ME CLUELESS.
bigdave
March 22nd, 2010
10:13 pm
poor decision from Joe..
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
10:13 pm
Oh, Lord!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
10:13 pm
Dumb foul. Now it takes a game-tier or a game-winner.
J.J.M.
March 22nd, 2010
10:13 pm
smh@joe
bigdave
March 22nd, 2010
10:13 pm
f- it… go for the win.
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
10:13 pm
Did he just throw the game?
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:13 pm
Did Joe actually think no one would see that
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
10:14 pm
This may be nerve-wracking, but it’s exciting.
And I greatly prefer it to watching us melt down over the course of 5-8 minutes, with no hope in sight.
J.J.M.
March 22nd, 2010
10:14 pm
hawks cant go overtime with josh and his 5 fouls
Hawks Fan In Jax
March 22nd, 2010
10:14 pm
Man i smell another Overtime game
Rod from College Park
March 22nd, 2010
10:14 pm
Big Ray,
I’ve been here.
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
10:14 pm
two bad decisions in a row by Joe.
Melvin
March 22nd, 2010
10:14 pm
Please no fade away jumpers
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
10:15 pm
heh heh heh…praying for overtime…
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:15 pm
Wow way to go clutch Joe
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
10:15 pm
That was pure selfishness
Hawk n the Ham
March 22nd, 2010
10:15 pm
Where’s the alley-oop to Smoove play, when you need one?
J.J.M.
March 22nd, 2010
10:15 pm
lol and the ball stayed in joe hand
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
10:15 pm
Why did Joe take so long to move?
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
10:15 pm
horford was open
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
10:15 pm
Doesn’t look good now. Ridnour is near automatic at the line.
I would have liked to see the Hawks take it quicker than that.
Jody
March 22nd, 2010
10:15 pm
PASS THE BALL!!!!!
Sautee
March 22nd, 2010
10:15 pm
And we were sharing the ball so well earlier.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:15 pm
Where are all the folks who act like Joe is always so clutch
Rod from College Park
March 22nd, 2010
10:15 pm
Same thing makes you laugh, makes you cry. Joe has to pass the ball.
Hawks Fan In Jax
March 22nd, 2010
10:16 pm
damn, no imagination on that play call
Melvin
March 22nd, 2010
10:16 pm
I will ask again tonight. Why dont Joe use the backboard more????
HawksFan11
March 22nd, 2010
10:16 pm
Zero passes.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:16 pm
Another Choke
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
10:16 pm
Rod ,
I know. But I have to call your name every now and then just to make sure.
Wabe
March 22nd, 2010
10:16 pm
I don’t know why we’ve kept Jamal out in the cold in these last second possessions.
Sautee
March 22nd, 2010
10:16 pm
I guess “earlier” was the key word
Hawks Fan In Jax
March 22nd, 2010
10:16 pm
Joe is clutch
Cedric
March 22nd, 2010
10:16 pm
Why was nobody crashing the damn boards on Joe last shot
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:16 pm
Joe even MJ passed sometimes u ballhog
Hawks Fan In Jax
March 22nd, 2010
10:17 pm
Man these close games are killin me
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
10:17 pm
I’m not gonna come down on them too hard for choking this game away, after playing 4 games in 5 nights, but choke they did. They slacked off on defense and let Salmons get into a rhythm, and the rest was history. Milwaukee is a good enough team that you can’t give them openings like that.
welikebaseball2
March 22nd, 2010
10:17 pm
Iso Joe, Iso Joe, Iso Joe, Iso Joe, etc.
terrell
March 22nd, 2010
10:17 pm
That was a horrible foul on Salmons by JJ.
Hawk n the Ham
March 22nd, 2010
10:17 pm
That was a foul. Crawford never comes up that short without contact.
Hawks Fan In Jax
March 22nd, 2010
10:17 pm
Guess we gonna hear all the Let Joe Go blogs now
bigdave
March 22nd, 2010
10:17 pm
“well you’re not gonna get that call”
-Dominique Wilkins
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:18 pm
ADD THIS TO THE LIST OF CHOKES
Sautee
March 22nd, 2010
10:18 pm
I HATE losing a winnable game.
Maavelous
March 22nd, 2010
10:18 pm
If Iso Joe can get that max contract from the Knicks it will just be the latest in a long string of bad contracts for that crummy organization. The Hawks would mis him a lot but he’s no superstar.
Wabe
March 22nd, 2010
10:18 pm
I guess it is what it is.
Another loss you can chalk up to poor 4th quarter execution on both ends.
Hawks Fan In Jax
March 22nd, 2010
10:18 pm
Hawks will be fine, bucks will lose to us in 5 games, just defend the 3 better down the stretch
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
10:18 pm
Happy for Bucks fans. Sad for Hawks’s. That was Hawks’s game to win, even down to the wire. No ball movement on the last play, and that’s what got Hawks the lead.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
10:18 pm
6/13 at the free throw line and a 13-7 deficit on the offensive glass killed the Hawks tonight.
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
10:18 pm
That ending made no sense
Hawk n the Ham
March 22nd, 2010
10:19 pm
Woody put Joe back in there at 10:36 in the 4th quarter. How would your legs be?
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:19 pm
Joe commited probably the dumbest and most obvious foul of all time
JeJe
March 22nd, 2010
10:19 pm
If we don’t resign JJ, can we just not go over the cap? We’d be so screwed – there’s no way we could go over cap by signing outside players?
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
10:19 pm
Toast of the town becomes the tarred and feathered one.
Sautee is right. We were sharing the ball well. Guess we just couldn’t have that at the end. Well, I won’t blame Woody for that one.
Horford was open. Yep, and we ignored a guy who hit all five of the shot attempts he got.
Sighhhh
Rod from College Park
March 22nd, 2010
10:19 pm
Big Ray,
OK. Just making sure. Great game by Marvin huh. Wonder why I don’t get excited after he has a good game.
J.J.M.
March 22nd, 2010
10:20 pm
I wish joe would share the ball and let other people help
JeJe
March 22nd, 2010
10:20 pm
Why does Jamal get no shots anymore? Anytime jamal and Joe are in, Jamal is just Joe’s !@#%$
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
10:20 pm
Apparently the only ones who can shutdown Crawford is his own team
Hawks Fan In Jax
March 22nd, 2010
10:20 pm
Would like to remind people that if we let Joe walk, there are no garuantees that we will get a big name player to come here, not hearing Lebron, Wade, Bosh or Stoudamire wanting to come here, if we let him walk and get nothing in return we are sub .500
Gwinnett Fred
March 22nd, 2010
10:21 pm
Disappointing for sure, and instead of the basic FIRE WOODY statements, I would just like to ask Woody one simple tactical question.
Why in the hell did you call your LAST time out with 21 seconds left down 2 points? It took a time out to call a “iso-Joe” play??? WTF??
Then we have a chance with a missed free throw, but instead of having the ball in the front court with 5 seconds left, we have to bring it all the way up court because baldy blew our last time out to draw up “Iso-Joe”. What BS – it’s easy to just say fire the coach, but I would really like someone in the media have the stones to ask him just this question I posed.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:22 pm
Man u guys need to stop making predictions like “we’ll be fine the bucks will lose to us in 5″ Obviously u guys don’t know the meaning of the word JINX. Watch the Bucks or whoever plays the Hawks bend them over there knee. The Hawks aren’t underdogs anymore so other teams are gunning for them.
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
10:22 pm
I’m not even made right now, just confused
buick59
March 22nd, 2010
10:22 pm
welcome to your future Hawks…. A First Round Loss to the Bucks
Wabe
March 22nd, 2010
10:23 pm
What’s funny is that everybody in the league talks about the Hawks bad habits (the lack of ball movement, the one-on-one basketball, the lapses on defense) and how they often resort back to them. We’ve seen how well we play when we’re moving the ball and getting everybody involved, yet we seem to tighten up on a daily basis. It makes no sense.
By the way, 0 minutes from JT0 since his limitted action yesterday. This also boggles my mind.
The Bucks are fielding a rookie PG whose struggled as of late, yet they’re the #5 seed in the East. So, to those who find it impossible to play a rookie meaningful minutes while racking up W’s, LOOK AROUND.
Rod from College Park
March 22nd, 2010
10:24 pm
I like Joe a lot, but the ball has to be in Crawford’s hands at the end of the game. The threat of the penetration and pass will still be there. This game is a prelude to the Orlando game. If we can’t stay on the shooters, we will lose.
o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o
March 22nd, 2010
10:24 pm
I think its safe now to end the “I’d rather play X team in the 1st rd.” talks
TOR, MIL, MIA, CHA and even CHI have all shown they can give us all we want.
Sadly, I think we can expect another 7 game 1st rd. series….
Dan
March 22nd, 2010
10:24 pm
John Salmons! Are u kidding me? John Salmons couldn’t be stopped tonight? A reject from the lowly Bulls.
After a nice win last night, they loseto this sh#*^# team. In the meantime Orlando keeps on winning.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:24 pm
why does Joe always have to shoot the last shot. Especially since he chokes all the damn time. I would like to see what Al would do or Jamal. But no Joe had to be a Glory hog.
Ree Roe
March 22nd, 2010
10:26 pm
Tough loss on the back end of a back to back.
-REEady for Roe!
terrell
March 22nd, 2010
10:26 pm
Im still trying to figure out why the Bulls got rid of Salmons.
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
10:26 pm
buick59
March 22nd, 2010
10:22 pm
welcome to your future Hawks…. A First Round Loss to the Bucks
lol dork
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:27 pm
If anybody wonders why I’m so damn pessimistic when watchin this team just watch this game. THE HAWKS HAVE NO KILLER INSTINCT WHAT SO EVER.
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
10:27 pm
Why did Joe wrap up Salmon like that in the 4th, close game knowing he would be called for the shooting foul?
Why did Joe hold the ball for almost 15 seconds, last play in the game with Hawks down by two only to end up with a poor shot?
Why was Jamal shut out in the 4th?
Somehow, I feel if we can answer these three questions, we would be able to figure out how Hawks can get better.
Night, folks.
N-Trigue
March 22nd, 2010
10:28 pm
Overall good gm can’t win them all! But what was Month evans doing in 4th qtr everytime he touched the ball he shot it?? And why Joe constantly hold the ball for long periods of time before making his move to the basket?
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:28 pm
I seriously think the Kentucky Wildcats can compete with the Hawks. Seriously
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
10:28 pm
Boston is beating the Jazz, one of the best home teams in the league, at Utah.
Damn this is annoying.
buick59
March 22nd, 2010
10:29 pm
Taylor learn to spell… LOSER
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:29 pm
I can answer those 3 questions blast.
JOE LOST HIS DAMN MIND
terrell
March 22nd, 2010
10:30 pm
Teams know they can come back on the Hawks, so they never panic.
bigdave
March 22nd, 2010
10:30 pm
its Joe’s fault… just waive him… f- it … kill him..
Taylor
March 22nd, 2010
10:31 pm
buick59
March 22nd, 2010
10:29 pm
Taylor learn to spell… LOSER
spell what?
Sleepy
March 22nd, 2010
10:31 pm
Joe 16 second half shots and only 3 assists(13 last night) on an night in which
Bibby was making his shots
Crawford had his average in the first half and we had a lead coming out of halftime
At what point did he decide Im just not going to pass it anymore unless I absolutely have too.
Joe got caught up into a shooting match with salmons instead of trying to win the game. Instead of deciding to lock salmons down he decides to try and outscore him . …..(.sigh)
terrell
March 22nd, 2010
10:32 pm
Dogging Joe after that performance is crazy. He was basically unstoppable tonight. Horrible foul on Salmons though.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:32 pm
I hope you’re not being sarcastic bigdave becuz u are right. It was Joe’s fault at the end of the game. He made terrible decisions.
VenomSpitter
March 22nd, 2010
10:34 pm
Joe forgets that his team was playing well. He has to trust them.
UGA
March 22nd, 2010
10:35 pm
We won’t lose to the Bucks in the playoffs. I’d much rather play them than Miami or Charlotte.
The frustrating thing is we keep having these huge 2nd half leads and lose. Someone is to blame for sure.
Josh Smith refuses to quit shooting jump shots, then we can just expect a missed opportunity on offense on his shot.
UGA
March 22nd, 2010
10:36 pm
Joe played well, but what a stupid foul!
UGA
March 22nd, 2010
10:40 pm
How is it Marvin goes for 26 last night and only gets 2 shots tonight??
That is Woody’s fault!! Give this guy the ball sometimes instead of letting Josh throw up bricks from the outside. I do like Woody, but come on man this is something you have to see.
JustChillFans
March 22nd, 2010
10:42 pm
Its sickning for you idiot fans to sit here and blame the game on joe. The coach calls the plays and he picked joe for the last shot why are you blaming joe? Because he listened to his coach? For the 1000000th time, why do you idiots think the hawks are going to win every single game. Damn everybody gone lose. @Venomspitter, seriously, u need to check ur brain, i think you might have lost it becuase kentucky will not beat NO team in the Nba. You people say some of the darnest things i swear. This dude said kentucky will beat the hawks lolololol at u clowns. And plus joe is the one who kept us in the game. Did you not see him score like 8 points str8 and 16 or something like that in the 4th alone. Why cant you all just say the HAWKS lost and stop blaming one person. Freaking idiots.
Eman
March 22nd, 2010
10:42 pm
Man, this team will never turn the coner!! We lose to the Bucks, da bucks, da bucks!!!!! Lets be real folks the hawks has under perform thus year!! This team has the talent to be the best team in the east, but they have the mentally of the New York Knicks!!!
This team will never win a championship unless we make some changes. I hate to say it but maybe its trading Josh Smith. He could bring us the players we need to compete with the best of the east.
Rod from College Park
March 22nd, 2010
10:43 pm
Dan,
“John Salmons! Are u kidding me? John Salmons couldn’t be stopped tonight? A reject from the lowly Bulls.”
He couldn’t be stopped by one of the best defensive teams in the league in the playoffs either. He is a very good offensive player.
Blast
March 22nd, 2010
10:44 pm
Joe played well in this game, but he made some horrible decisions down the stretch, and that’s why I’m mad at him. This is not the first time he’s done that. Untill Joe starts to trust his team completely and play unselfish, he’s not going to have my full support.
BirdDawg
March 22nd, 2010
10:46 pm
This team won’t get any better with this coach so why expect them too. They are making the same mistakes they made when they won only 13 games, they just have more talent now than they did then. BK, for all his faults, was Woody’s friend AND the one who brought him here and even he wanted to fire him. That’s telling.
JeJe
March 22nd, 2010
10:46 pm
IF WE LET JOE WALK WE CANNOT SIGN A FREE AGENT BECAUSE WE’D BE OVER THE CAP. THINK ABOUT IT. UNLESS WE S&T HALF OUR TEAM FOR WADE, THERE’S NOTHING WE CAN DO. MUST RESIGN JOE
Rod from College Park
March 22nd, 2010
10:46 pm
UGA,
“How is it Marvin goes for 26 last night and only gets 2 shots tonight??
That is Woody’s fault!! Give this guy the ball sometimes instead of letting Josh throw up bricks from the outside. I do like Woody, but come on man this is something you have to see.”
Marvin has to be aggressive and take the shots, like every other player on the team does. That is not Woody’s fault. Marvin need to grow some balls, and step up.
jon contract
March 22nd, 2010
10:53 pm
i’ve gotta say, Woody needs an assistant coach to step up at the end of the game and say “hey coach, can we actually run a play this time, you know, maybe with a pick here or there, instead of just giving the ball to Joe and everyone else just stand around and watch him try to get open”…
same ole story….sure i’ve seen it work once or twice, but that is just awful….
N-Trigue
March 22nd, 2010
10:53 pm
Oh and Joe what was he thinking with that dumb foul at the end? That sealed the game right there!
N-Trigue
March 22nd, 2010
10:53 pm
Oh and Joe what was he thinking with that dumb foul at the end? That sealed the game right there!
UGA
March 22nd, 2010
10:57 pm
Rod, Wrong. He never touches the ball in the half court. Plays are never called for him. He creates a mismatch every night on the block, but………
UGA
March 22nd, 2010
10:58 pm
It’s hard to be aggressive when you don’t get passed the ball and then when iso plays are called all night long.
cp
March 22nd, 2010
10:59 pm
Tonight’s game is the reason why I just don’t get excited when Marvin has a few good games. He is known to do that every year then completely disappears again…As Ray said, Josh needs to work on that jumper in the summer and not during the season lol. And I don’t see why people think we can just breeze through the first round. The way the Hawks have been lately I wouldn’t be shocked if they got put out the first round. They need to get it together in these 4th quarters.
BirdDawg
March 22nd, 2010
11:01 pm
Man, all of this endless optimism is baffling. Anyone that doubts this team has the talent to go deep into the playoffs is an idiot. But anyone that thinks they will playing the way they have lately is an even bigger idiot. When was the last time the Hawks beat a team of substance that was at full strength? Can’t remember? Neither can I. And even the games they won were close games that could have gone either way. Many of them shouldn’t have been that close to begin with. And to give Woodson a pass and blame the players for the team’s shortcomings is utter lunacy. Most coaches in the league would kill for the opportunity to have 5-6 legit players that they could actually run plays for and have a well above average chance of success. Woodson has that and in all the time he’s been here, this team still doesn’t have an offensive philosophy or identity other than give it to Joe and let him work. As good as JJ is, he is NOT Lebron or Kobe or Wade. It’s been proven time and again that he cannot carry this team on his own so with all the talent around him, why does Woody keep letting him try? Run plays for other guys, use Joe as a decoy to set someone else up for a shot. A missed good shot off of a well executed play is something most fans, coaches, gm’s, etc. can live with. A bad shot off of a predictable isolation play that everyone knows is coming is not.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
11:11 pm
Y’all are way overreacting.
I hate iso-Joe as much as anyone. But he did keep the Hawks in the game in the 4th with plenty of tough jumpers, and he had a very good look at the end of the game that he just didn’t convert.
I think he deserves a lot more blame for the dumb foul he committed than his jump shots. But either way, he played an overall very good game. Team defense, rebounding, and free throw shooting lost this game, not iso-Joe.
The only thing to really take away from this game about the Hawks is that once again they slacked off on defense and let the other team back into the game. This has been a recurring theme recently, and it’s something they need to get fixed before the playoffs. They have had many games in the last month and a half where they had a double digit lead in the 2nd half, but while Orlando turns those games into 20-point blowouts, the Hawks have a tendency to let the other team back in and have to grind out a close win.
I give them a bit of a pass because they were playing their 4th game in 5 nights, but this recurring problem is one they have to find a way to fix before playoff time.
J.J.M.
March 22nd, 2010
11:12 pm
all im saying is share the ball or teammates will get mad and not like you
UGA
March 22nd, 2010
11:13 pm
Really and truly, it was probably good to lose.
IF we finish 3 seed, we play Miami, who beat us 3 times.
IF we finish 4 seed, we play the Bucks, who we can beat (this was a back to back night- “optimism”)
Who do we have a better chance against, the Cavs or Magic in round 2?? Next game will show it’s not Orlando.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2010
11:14 pm
At least Utah got it together and is now beating Boston. Hawks will still be tied with them after today.
UGA
March 22nd, 2010
11:15 pm
Earlier in the year we could close games. Now………
JustChillFans
March 22nd, 2010
11:16 pm
Man the lakers run kobe-iso and the end of EVERY game thats close and EVERY team knows its coming. How come they still cant stop Kobe?? Exactly, u people say whatever comes to ur head. Take the time to think about what ur about to say for once. Can yall stop acting like the bucks are garbage! They have beating sum great teams.
Anthony
March 22nd, 2010
11:19 pm
Why do we continue to not play team ball at the end of games. Standing around watching Joe doesn’t get it. And the stupid foul to put em on the line. He is not Kobe or LeBron and the coach keeps trying to fool all the fans into thinking he is a superstar. He;s good but not that good. I know I’m not the only one that knows that we play best when everyone gets involved and we pass the ball. It’s getting old, same old thing. Close game, everybody stand around and watch Joe. And nobody goes after the rebound. We’ll get killed in the playoffs cause every other team knows what we do. What’s the point in having the other 4 guys out there?
BirdDawg
March 22nd, 2010
11:20 pm
If this team plays up to its capabilities we wouldn’t have to worry about meeting any team in the playoffs except for maybe Orlando, and even then we wouldn’t have to be concerned with 18 – 20 point blowouts. We certainly wouldn’t be worried about what team we meet in the first round.
Rod from College Park
March 22nd, 2010
11:21 pm
“Rod, Wrong. He never touches the ball in the half court. Plays are never called for him. He creates a mismatch every night on the block, but……”
He can’t ever take advantage of it. Have you not noticed that teams guard him with much smaller players fro a reason.
northcyde
March 22nd, 2010
11:24 pm
LOL . . . what an ungrateful full of fans. I’m glad a few of you have called these dudes out. All of that euphoria over last night is tossed right out the window tonight.
And how DARE any of you blame JJ for this loss . . . after basically putting this team on his back at a time in which in 4 minute span ( end of 3rd – beginning of 4th ), the Bucks go on a 11 – 2 run to cut a 12 point lead to 3.
The JJ makes 7 of his next 9 shots in the quarter.
And you dudes try to act like he wasn’t ballin?
Yeah, that was a bad foul at the end. Way too overzealous in his denial of the ball of Salmons ( who sold it well ). But JJ did the damn thing in that 2nd half.
It’s amazing the flat out hate some of you show toward JJ ( although I perfectly understand it from you undercover fake fans from other teams, acting like Hawk fans ).
Jamal Crawford basically plays the same way in the first half, and it’s “oooohs and ahhhhs”, slobbering all over that dude. But as soon as JJ takes over a game ad misses ONE SHOT, it’s “why didn’t JJ pass the ball? I know he’s 7 – 9 FG in the quarter, but he should’ve passed”
LOL . . .GTFOH
Great game JJ. We’re going to need you to play just like this in the playoffs.
Like JustChillFans said . . . you guys expect the Hawks to win every game. And instead of simply giving the Bucks props for making plays, some of you go on manhunts to try to scapegoat somebody.
Basically, Milwaukee did the same thing we did to San Antonio.
This is the NBA folks. Nobody is going to lay down and die for us. Just ask Boston right now, out in Utah.
The Bird and Indian (Reggie)
March 22nd, 2010
11:28 pm
How can you people blame the game on Joe? He kept us in the game with bucket after bucket in the 4th. I miss the good folks from the blog last year. I’m sorry you gotta go through this, Ray.
BirdDawg
March 22nd, 2010
11:31 pm
I get it now. In order to be a real fan, I should be satisfied with the Hawks repeatedly allowing teams of lesser talent to erase double digit leads and come back for the win. Awesome. In that case I hope they do that four times in a row in the first round of the playoffs!!!
That would really be something wouldn’t it?
JeJe
March 22nd, 2010
11:33 pm
So if we don’t resign Joe, we are screwed? We cannot go over cap by signing outside free agents. SIGNING JOE OR S&T JOE IS ONLY CHOICE
JeJe
March 22nd, 2010
11:33 pm
“I get it now. In order to be a real fan, I should be satisfied with the Hawks repeatedly allowing teams of lesser talent to erase double digit leads and come back for the win.”
LOL!
IDIOT POST OF THE NIGHT
March 22nd, 2010
11:48 pm
JustChillFans
March 22nd, 2010
11:16 pm
Man the lakers run kobe-iso and the end of EVERY game thats close and EVERY team knows its coming. How come they still cant stop Kobe?? Exactly, u people say whatever comes to ur head. Take the time to think about what ur about to say for once. Can yall stop acting like the bucks are garbage! They have beating sum great teams.
SINCE WHEN WAS JOE JOHNSON, KOBE???????????????? WOW@COMPARING ISO-JOE to ISO-KOBE
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
11:50 pm
John Salmons is a good player, but him scoring 32 on us again…at will…says something about our defense.
Our perimeter defense, that is.
JJ played like the star he is.
I still don’t undertand Horford going 5-5 and not seeing the ball ever again.
Marvin has become the very opposite of what he once was.
Josh Smith is faltering in the last few games, making bad decisions and not playing totally focused.
How do you let Luke Ridnour beat you up?
BirdDawg
March 22nd, 2010
11:51 pm
LMAO @ “IDIOT POST OF THE NIGHT”
I’ve been trying to figure that one out myself.
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
11:54 pm
JJ was ballin’. Crawford was, too.
How does this JJ vs. Crawford stuff always come up? Picking favorites…
Big Ray
March 22nd, 2010
11:57 pm
Bird Dawg ,
If that happens, the only thing that I can say is that people will do what they always do:
Some will blame the coach.
Some will blame whichever players they use as their favorite targets.
And some, believe it or not, will blame the fans.
northcyde
March 23rd, 2010
12:00 am
The fake fan comment was to one or two of those Cavs fans who come on the board. It’s no doubt that trolls from other teams frequent this board.
Some of the rest of you simply overreact to everything . . . wins and losses ( which is what I said 3 weeks ago ).
Go look through the Hawks – Bucks play-by-play, and tell me what the Bucks shot from like the 6 min mark in the 3rd, to like the 7 min mark in the 4th.
Look at the amount of shots they made . . . sometimes in a row.
Sometimes, the other team just beats you, no matter what you do to try to stop them.
And the Bucks are far from a lesser team. Snce they got Salmons, they’ve been THE BEST team in the league. They’re like 17 – 2 since that trade ( with the Hawks giving them one of those losses ).
WE LOST . . . simple as that. Most everyone played well tonight. The Bucks just played better on their home floor.
Now, here’s the psychological game of the year for the fans . . . the Battle of Orlando. Lose the battle, and most of you will be in doom and gloom mode. Beat them, and some of you will say that we can win the NBA title, based off of this one win.
LOL . . the league don’t work like that folks. If it did, Cleveland would’ve won a ring last year.
Good game Hawks . . . you guys just couldn’t slow down that stretch of Bucks hot shooting in time to close out the game.
BirdDawg
March 23rd, 2010
12:00 am
Big Ray,
Not picking sides, but that’s the point. Why does it have to be JJ vs. Crawford at the end of games? Why can’t one set up the other and play as a cohesive unit? That’s what I would like to see. They would be almost unstoppable setting each other up because you can’t really guard either one let alone both.
rusty
March 23rd, 2010
12:41 am
i wish jj leaves & takes woody with him. joe cant carry kobes jock strap. he always takes us out of our of our offense .he took allf our shots leaving none for ah or jc we play like crap because woody lets him get away withj it. he must of had money on this game for us to lose. i been watching the nba since the 50 s & that foul was the dumbest play that i have ever seen. i am so sick of his sefish play & where the hell was his defense on salmons regardless of the stupid defensive swithching. why the hell was teague not played.
JustChillFans
March 23rd, 2010
1:17 pm
@IDIOT POST OF THE NIGHT, my point was that iso is common in the nba. Im not comparing kobe to joe you idiot. Yall acting like we suppose to have plays with easy layups at any point of the game or something. This is the nba not high school. Its tuff at times to score in this league. Boi i wish sum of you idiots could just coach one game and see. What was you saying when joe made like 5 str8 buckets in the 4th??? Answer that.
JustChillFans
March 23rd, 2010
1:21 pm
@NORTHCYDE, well said brother. These fans gone look sick when jj leaves this summer. Our backup sg is going to be mario west lol. Im pretty sure some of you all would rather have west right? Haha, silly fans.
Marcus
March 23rd, 2010
2:23 pm
Ray,
that has been our Achilles heel (Kalin Lucas send help). Just about every “winnable” loss has the same m.o.
Question: Maybe I am not understanding … are we basically locked in to the 4th playoff spot?
Does BOS being Atlantic Div. champ *only* come into play if a tiebreaker is needed or do all div. champs basically default to the higher seeds, even if we end up having a better reg. season record?
falcons pick spoon
March 23rd, 2010
4:37 pm
Exactly Jeje. We cannot scream for Wade or Lebron we would not have the money for them. We MUST resign Joe.