Atlanta Hawks at Raptors: Woodson gives Bibby some needling

Toronto–Made it to Canada, where somehow it’s a nicer day than any I can remember in Atlanta for like the last week. (When I saw the border agents, for some reason all I could think about was: “She got a cousin at customs that get (stuff) through . . .”)

Chris Mannix of SI.com asked Woody if he’s concerned about Bibby’s problems with quick point guards as the Hawks head to the playoffs.

“You think Bibby has trouble with quick point guards,” Woody said, smiling. “I’m going to tell Bibby that. Maybe he better speed it up in the playoffs.”

Bibby and one of those quick point guards he has problems with. (Johnny Crawford, Jcrawford@ajc.com)

Bibby and one of those quick guards that can give him trouble. (Johnny Crawford, Jcrawford@ajc.com)

Chris Sheridan of ESPN.com got to Bibby before Woody could and relayed the exchange.

“You keep some things, some things you can’t,” Bibby said, and it looked like he would let it go and that would be it.

But after a bit he added: “I aint’ the only one who has trouble with quick point guards, I can tell you that.”

Bibby was offered the hand-check rule as an out but he wouldn’t take it.

“I’ve got other things to worry about,” he said.

My take: Bibby is Woody’s guy, and the coach knows Bibby gets motivated by talk about his decline. So Woody will use such slights to coax him.

When Woody met with Bibby a few weeks back, he told him he needed to be more aggressive offensively. He was back on that theme again last night.

“He’s passed up a lot of shots he should have taken this year,” Woody said, adding with a smile: “Maybe he’s saving it up.”

From what I’ve seen, Bibby is a prideful player who cares about winning. He’s a gamer, too, so it’s no surprise he was back in the lineup last night after sitting out practice on Monday.

Look for more of Woody’s sly needling of Bibby to get him fired up for the playoffs. Or maybe more of this will do the trick.

– Woody keeps insisting he’s not really looking at the playoffs picture beyond still trying to catch Magic from 3 games back with 16 to go: “We still have a legit shot to win the division”

His standard line about the postseason: “We’ll figure that part out when we get there.” I believe him.

He’s been getting questions about Milwaukee lately but he keeps deflecting them.

“It could be Milwaukee, Toronto, Charlotte, Miami,” Woody said. “Or if any of those teams fall back Chicago could slip in there. It’s not just Milwaukee we’ve got our eyes on. But I haven’t given much thought to the playoffs. We are focused on the regular season.”

– The Raptors have become the anti-Bucks. They are reeling, losers of five straight and nine of 10. Assuming the Bulls get healthy at some point and that avoiding D Wade still is a good idea no matter what he’s got around him, the Raptors might now be the team everyone wants to see in the first round.

Raps coach Jay Triano might replace Jarrett Jack with Jose Calderon in the starting lineup tonight. Not that the Raptors think that’s the ticket. Calderon in the Toronto Star:

“It doesn’t matter who starts, it doesn’t matter who plays more minutes, we’ve got to win games. We’re upset because we’re losing games. We’re not upset because I’m not playing or I’m not starting or something like that. Let’s keep things simple: We’ve got to win, and everything else doesn’t matter.”

Here was the part in that story that should make the Hawks’ eyes get big: “(The Raptors) once again are being hammered on the defensive glass – Golden State had 18 offensive rebounds and Portland 19 in Toronto’s past two losses – and their transition defence is lead-footed.”

– The Hawks might be for sale.

MC

565 comments Add your comment

VenomSpitter

March 17th, 2010
9:33 pm

i cant beleive were gonna lose this game

J.J.M.

March 17th, 2010
9:33 pm

how yo blow a lead that fast

HawksFan11

March 17th, 2010
9:34 pm

I’ll say it again: If the Hawks lose this game, it’s all on the bigs. PERIOD!

Taylor

March 17th, 2010
9:34 pm

can marvin be released asap?

VenomSpitter

March 17th, 2010
9:34 pm

i would like to see Collins eat Marvin

bigdave

March 17th, 2010
9:34 pm

Joe just isnt offense people, would’ve been nice to have him on Turk

nunna yo biznezz

March 17th, 2010
9:34 pm

I WANT TO THROW UP

Blast

March 17th, 2010
9:34 pm

Hawks down 1, 2.1 to go. I say give it to Jamal, and live with it.

vava74

March 17th, 2010
9:34 pm

Wasn’t that a travel?

BONE

March 17th, 2010
9:34 pm

HAWKS MINUS JAMAL ARE BUMBSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Alpha 12

March 17th, 2010
9:34 pm

Marvin, Marvin, Marvin….How about a box out! You see how Woody looked at him in the huddle

Hawks v. Raptors

March 17th, 2010
9:34 pm

i see the hawks choked in the 4th once again

O'Brien

March 17th, 2010
9:35 pm

Melvin,

Hawks went away from what was working. They went away from Horford the last 3 possessions.

J.J.M.

March 17th, 2010
9:35 pm

alley hoop to josh

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

March 17th, 2010
9:35 pm

Jamir Johnson

bigdave

March 17th, 2010
9:35 pm

“Jameer Johnson”…

Najeh Davenpoop

March 17th, 2010
9:35 pm

Crawford barely had control of that ball.

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

March 17th, 2010
9:35 pm

CRUSHING lost.

Taylor

March 17th, 2010
9:35 pm

Marvin williams please kill yourself

Alpha 12

March 17th, 2010
9:35 pm

Marvin’s fault!

VenomSpitter

March 17th, 2010
9:36 pm

Out of all the chokes this season this one hurts the most

Blast

March 17th, 2010
9:36 pm

Ahhhhh……!!!!

Bad, tough loss, man. Hawks should have won this game.

bigdave

March 17th, 2010
9:36 pm

BONE

March 17th, 2010
9:36 pm

LOOOOL @TAYLOR

Melvin

March 17th, 2010
9:36 pm

We let these clowns beat us….

Maavelous

March 17th, 2010
9:36 pm

The Maavalous one doesn’t box out on the FT rebound and then has a brain cramp on the baseline. What an idiot.

Alpha 12

March 17th, 2010
9:36 pm

Did Marvin make a positive play in this game?

Ree Roe

March 17th, 2010
9:36 pm

Hawks invent new & exciting ways to lose…SMH

-REE Roe!

VenomSpitter

March 17th, 2010
9:37 pm

I swear the next time we play the raptors we better beat them by like 50

Taylor

March 17th, 2010
9:37 pm

Marvin really deserves not to start anymore

J.J.M.

March 17th, 2010
9:37 pm

dont understand why you dont set a pick and throw the ball to the rim for josh

Hawks Fan In Jax

March 17th, 2010
9:37 pm

Tough loss, had a hard feeling about this game, but from a back to back the Hawks played with alot of heart, just a bad break at the missed free throw, good to see Al and Mo show they can step up when needed.

AM

March 17th, 2010
9:37 pm

FIRE MARVIN THEN FIRE WOODSON FOR LEAVING HIM IN!

Hawks v. Raptors

March 17th, 2010
9:37 pm

marvin is such a great asset, 31 minutes … 2 points

terrell

March 17th, 2010
9:38 pm

Tough loss. Bosh just made a huge shot.

marvin sucks

March 17th, 2010
9:38 pm

marvin sucks bad

JohnnyWalking

March 17th, 2010
9:38 pm

Hawks should have fouled with 12 secs to go put em on the line. Even if they do make em they get about 10 secs to get a good shot to win. OHHH well still a great game!!!

jay dubu

March 17th, 2010
9:39 pm

Hawks let a tough one slip away…They have to get more from Marvin. I know he’s trying, but, it’s been a season long struggle. He just can’t seem to break iout of whatever funk he’s in.

That entire group for UNC in 2005, have stunk it up on the court.

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

March 17th, 2010
9:39 pm

I hope they get big collins and randmo to give Marvin a wedgie and hit him in the face wit a pie.

joBjo

March 17th, 2010
9:39 pm

UNDISCIPLINED HAWKS RUNNING THEIR MOUTHS GETTING TECHS COST US THIS GAME. OH OLOOK AT ME MR REF. i AM A MILLIONAIRE AND YOUCAN’T DISS ME MOFO. TECH FOUL, LOSE GAME MR MILLIONAIRE DUMBASS.

AM

March 17th, 2010
9:39 pm

Marvin is a disease.

terrell

March 17th, 2010
9:39 pm

Woody looked like he wanted to pimp slap Marvin when he stepped out of bounds.

nunna yo biznezz

March 17th, 2010
9:39 pm

HE WAS OFF BALANCED,HE SHOULD HAVE LINED UP AND SHOT IT AFTER THE INBOUNDS PLAY….JUST LIKE THE BULLS COMMENTATOR SAID A FEW WEEKS AGO WHEN WE PLAYED THEM,”ATLANTA’S M.O. IS THAT THEY HAVE A BIG LEAD AND WILL THEN RELAX AND LET U BACK IN,AND YOU HAVE TO BE READY”..AND THEY WERE…

BONE

March 17th, 2010
9:40 pm

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

VenomSpitter

March 17th, 2010
9:40 pm

Mac they should let Collins eat Marvin. Coliins probably likes Roasted Duck.

VenomSpitter

March 17th, 2010
9:41 pm

This is one of the few times I wont blame woody for the loss

Taylor

March 17th, 2010
9:41 pm

oBjo

March 17th, 2010
9:39 pm

UNDISCIPLINED HAWKS RUNNING THEIR MOUTHS GETTING TECHS COST US THIS GAME. OH OLOOK AT ME MR REF. i AM A MILLIONAIRE AND YOUCAN’T DISS ME MOFO. TECH FOUL, LOSE GAME MR MILLIONAIRE DUMBASS.

no stupid, after that the game turned around for the Hawks.

o.O-Mac-Town -Macon, Georgia- Westsider-O.o

March 17th, 2010
9:41 pm

drmaryb

March 17th, 2010
9:41 pm

Where are the ISO-JOE haters tonight? LOL!

terrell

March 17th, 2010
9:41 pm

If Mo doesn’t start over Marvin Friday, Woody should be fired on the spot!