Hawks Squawks: Heat 100, Hawks 94
Wade soared past the Hawks for 38 points. (AP Photo/Lynne Sladky)
Miami–A D-Wade surge in the third, a couple bad possessions, a Michael Beasley eruption . . . just like that, the Hawks lost a game they once controlled. They can’t let road games slip away like this if they really want to win the Southeast.
– Josh and Jamal both tried to throw passes into the teeth of the Heat’s zone. “We had too many turnovers,” Woody said. “Blind passes when nothing was there. They capitalized on it.”
– The Hawks had seven of their 13 turnovers in the fourth quarter and made just 6 of 20 shots in the period. Once again they appeared baffled against a zone defense. “I can’t fault the effort,” Woody said. “The effort was great. We got the tempo the way we wanted it. But then their zone slowed us down.”
– Wade went off with 14 points in the third quarter, energizing his teammates and the fans. The Hawks controlled him in the fourth but then Beasley took over with 14 points on 6 of 7 shooting and a key steal. “We tried to post Smoove from the backside of the zone but Beasley did a hell of a job in getting to the spot,” Woody said.
– Beasley had seven straight points as the Heat turned a 92-91 deficit into a 98-92 lead. “We know he is capable of doing that,” Al said. “He was able to get two good looks from the corner. Wade had it going at that time so we thought we would get it out of his hands.”
– Beasley’s 3-pointer with 46.8 seconds to play was the dagger. “Honestly when it left my hand it didn’t feel too good,” he said.
– The Hawks still had a chance when they were down 98-94 and Carlos Arroyo missed a jumper. But Udonis Haslem rebounded. “That was pretty much the game,” Woody said.
– J.J. missed 12 of 15 shots in the second half after making 5 of 8 in the first. A tight deadline didn’t allow me to wait around and ask him if he still felt ill tonight.
– Joe Smith took a shot to the nose and didn’t return to the game. He still was available to play but Woody didn’t use him in the second half after he had eight points and made 3 of 3 shots in seven minutes of the first. He helped the Hawks bench players outscore the Heat reserves 20-10 in the first half.
– The game was delayed for several minutes at the start of the fourth quarter due to scoreboard and clock malfunctions. At first the operator couldn’t take a point away from the Heat’s tally after a 3-pointer was changed to a 2. Then the clock didn’t start to begin the half.
– “Both teams had an opportunity to rest,” Woody said. “That had no effect on what happened.”
– Smoove wasn’t so sure. “It let ‘D Wade’ get a longer rest and we didn’t want that to happen. They know what they was doing. They’ve been working at that scorer’s table for years and they don’t know how to count it down? It’s a smart move by them, though. Maybe we should try that.”
– I’m out, Hawks fans.
MC
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Philly Fan
March 7th, 2010
11:40 am
@Sautee
yeah….when was the last time the city of Atlanta had a pro sports championship? Or even a team that was a real contender??? I’m pretty sure the Phils just brought one to Philly not too long ago.
I’m also pretty sure the Flyers, Eagles and Phillies are better than Thrashers, Falcons, and Braves. I’m also pretty sure the Flyers, Eagles and Phillies are usually contenders too..and we still stay on their azz because that’s what real fans do, instead of being a pansy and accepting mediocrity like the vast majority of Atlanta fans. So that’s why ATL is the gayest city in America.
http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wabe/news.newsmain/article/0/1/1601738/Atlanta/Atlanta.‘Gayest’.City.in.the.US
You dudes act like team mothers or actual mothers of the players with that soft “aww come here sweetie everything’s going to be alright -kisses-” mentality
Philly Fan
March 7th, 2010
11:42 am
lol I’m pretty sure the cities of NY and PHILLY have saw championships alot more recently than GAY-T-L.
Rick Sund
March 7th, 2010
11:46 am
Since our goal last year was to make the playoffs with a winning record, our goal this year is to make the playoffs with a winning record and win 1 game. We realize the series victory against the Heat last year was a fluke, so we don’t want to set our goals too high.
For the offseason, our goal is to retain every player on this team, to not make any trades to make the team better, and to not pursue free agents who cost more than the veteran minimum.
We realize this is a YOUNG team with a lot of potential, so we plan to offer every player, regardless of age, a 5 year extension. Marvin is YOUNG with POTENTIAL, and Bibby is a top 5 point guard so we are very optimistic.
Best,
Rick
"Now You Know" Nation
March 7th, 2010
11:54 am
I agree@Rick Sund
I think I can speak for myself and other real fans such as northcyde, Big Ray, etc. and tell you that all real hawks fans approve of your post. There’s so much negativity surrounding us here. It wasnt that long ago we were winning 13 games a year. Let’s just ride this rollercoaster out and get to the playoffs as many years as possible, regardless if we get beat in the first and second rounds each time. If we could go under .500 and still make the playoffs in the weak east, then that’s all that matter.
Sincerely,
-Real Hawks Fans
Najeh Davenpoop
March 7th, 2010
11:55 am
Buried in the depths of this column is this little gem about the Denver Nuggets:
Nuggets’ missed opportunities
Chauncey Billups
(NBAE/ Getty Images)
At 40-21, the Denver Nuggets have one of the NBA’s best records and have tied the best start in franchise history since moving over from the ABA in 1976. Even so, the Nuggets are kicking themselves because they know their record could be even better if not for their numerous letdowns against weaker teams.
The Nuggets have a dominating 25-11 record against teams with winning records, including two victories against the Los Angeles Lakers and Cleveland Cavaliers and one against the Orlando Magic. Denver, however, is just 14-10 against teams with losing records. With the margin of error slim in the West, those losses could hurt the Nuggets’ playoff seeding.
“Our [focus] is getting better,” Nuggets guard Chauncey Billups(notes) said. “It has to be. We have [21] losses and really we should have 10.”
EVERYTHING in that passage could apply to the Hawks. I would love to see one of the Hawks’ team leaders own up to that reality like Chauncey Billups did. Right now I don’t see the Hawks having much of a sense of urgency to try to fix this problem.
Ken Strickland
March 7th, 2010
11:58 am
Let’s face it, the Hawks do a good job of winnning during the regular season, but they’ve done absolutely nothing during the regular season to prepare themselves for the playoffs. There’s no way ignoring your bench during the 2nd half of gms, especially close gms, playing your top 6 players into exhaustion, especially on back to backs, and going three forths of the season without having figured out how to attack a zone DEF, is going to get it done in the playoffs.
Woodson takes the cowards approach to coaching. He simply can’t bring himself to get beyond his personal issues to do anything different that might help the team. He’s simply going to stick with his programed approach regardless of the outcome and blame the players for what he can’t or won’t do, which is going to get us creamed in the playoffs.
We’re not simply getting outplayed, we’re getting out coached. In previous seasons, when our bench was limited, teams knew to stay close and play for the 4th qtr, because they knew Woodson would play his starters into exhaustion. Well, our bench is no longer limited, but Woodson has certainly limited our bench, and we’re now seeing teams once again sucessfully use that same 4th quarter approach.
WHAT DUMBASS EXCUSE CAN HE COME UP WITH FOR PLAYING JOSMITH ONLY 6:44MINS THE ENTIRE GM, AND ZERO MINS IN THE 2ND HALF, AFTER GETTING 8PTS AND 2REB IN THOSE 6:44MINS? On the other hand, this DUMBASS COY candidate played MBibby 30:17mins and got 6 PTS, 1 REB AND 1 AST and NO DEF, while giving TEAGUE a DNP CD.
Our DUMBASS COY candidate didn’t have sense enough to adjust to how Miami was deliberately attacking his BELOVED SWITCHING DEF and taking advantage of Bibby getting switched off on either Haslem, Richardson or Beasley. They also took advantage of him by consistently getting Arroyo, Wade, Chalmer and Cook into the lane, although it wasn’t all his fault either.
Bibby lacks the quickness and speed to recover on switches and get back to his man, which is why he ends up in mismatches against PF’s and C’s more than any other guard. YOU DON’T RUN A SWITCHING DEF WITH BIBBY ON THE FLOOR WHEN YOU’RE TRYING TO DEFEND PLAYERS LIKE DWADE, KBRYANT, CPAUL, LJAMES, TPARKER ETC. That’s the main reason we routinely get our butts kicked by those teams, and those players have big gms against us.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 7th, 2010
12:02 pm
Philly Fan makes the common fan mistake of assuming that his opinion as a fan has any impact whatsoever on the fortunes of his favorite team. As long as your team is getting nice, fat TV deals and the season ticket holders renew, they could care less whether you cheer or boo. You Philly drunks can go boo McNabb, Iguodala, Santa Claus, and whoever else, but if you think that makes an ounce of difference in your team’s record you are delusional.
One more thing — I’d rather live in a city full of homosexuals with no championships than freeze my balls off for 8 months of the year. F-ck the Northeast.
"Now You Know" Nation
March 7th, 2010
12:03 pm
Najeh Davenpoop, why be so negative and focus on the point that you could have about 10 losses if you fix your problems and just be happy that you’re several games over .500. You guys arent real fans. All my fellow real fans, come, and sing peaceful praises to Buddha with me.
Sincerely,
-Real Hawks Fans
Philly Fan
March 7th, 2010
12:08 pm
Najeh Davenpoop writes “I’d rather live in a city full of homosexuals with no championships”
and thats why Atlantans are Atlantans, desiring to live with and be homos and cheer for teams with no back bones.
You guys are bigger fans of RuPaul than your sports teams. No real fan accepts mediocre play, or anything less than championship caliber performance.
Wabe
March 7th, 2010
12:09 pm
I wasn’t too sure if I saw this correctly, but if I’m not mistaken, Woody played the same lineup the entire 4th quarter. It’s as if we play 4th quarters as if we’re in the last 2 minutes of the game. We see no rotational changes and we go one on one to get buckets. The only times we moved the ball were when Crawford was spotting up from beyond the arc against that zone. We hurt ourselves with the turnovers as well.
I honestly feel Woody gets too tight too quick. On some nights, Woody brings his starters too quick in the 4th. Guys like Joe Smith could’ve played some minutes in that 4th quarter. Same with Marvin Williams. I don’t understand why we get so tight with the rotation, because it does appear that guys get tired and stop moving. I also think we don’t run enough toward the end of games. We’re working so hard to execute out of the halfcourt that we don’t get any fastbreak points. Whatever it is, we need to figure it out and get it fixed.
Joe
March 7th, 2010
12:14 pm
I agree this Hawks team is light years ahead of past versions but these 4th quarter melt downs are depressing. Talk about having your heart ripped……………and they are clearly better than the teams that are beating them. On another subject, somebody should make Jsmoove watch tapes of J. Havilchek, can u imagine how awesome he’d be if he hustled even half as much. MVP here we come.
Philly Fan
March 7th, 2010
12:15 pm
Atlanta isn’t even a real city anyways. It’s a city of about 500,000 plus with the other 4.5-5 million people that arent even natives of Georgia living in sprawling, suburbania. No real urban characteristics, such a car dependent society. The city population density is laughable. It has no identity, no heart, no backbone, no population density…….much like it’s sports teams and fan attendance. The Northeast just has way more to offer than small southern cities that call themselves big because over sprawling suburbs. It’ll always be outclassed by Northeastern (and Midwestern) cities.
Hawk n the Ham
March 7th, 2010
12:25 pm
Since when did we start getting high school kids from out of town mingling amongst us?
SWAT Native
March 7th, 2010
12:51 pm
Philly Fan,
As we like to say in Atlanta, Delta is ready when you are.
BONE
March 7th, 2010
1:07 pm
philly is full of bum azz ni66z n scullys n somis, dirty azz city looooooooooooooool, and when has our city wony anything??? how many word series do the braves have? o and tell will smith i said what up….o i forgot HE LIVES HERE now along wit alot of ur other bum azz celebs, dont nobody wanna live in philly ni66a
Scoop
March 7th, 2010
1:28 pm
@ northcyde
These arent knee-jerk reactions.
Simply stating the obvious that there is a reason this team consistently struggles in the 4th quarter to produce offense and the reason is because of fatigue. Woodson consistently panics in the 2nd half when the game is close and runs his starters and JC into the ground. As a result they’re running on dead legs and guys will miss those open opportunities facing the zone, like Joe’s 2-11 last night. You get better by analyzing you mistakes and correcting them, not chalking it up to randomness and moving on.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 7th, 2010
1:41 pm
Honestly, none of us can respond to Philly Fan and his ilk as well as Bill Burr already has.
The best thing about your city is Michael Vick, and we gave him to y’all.
sam'l
March 7th, 2010
1:52 pm
That guy from Philly has a point. The large industrialized cities of the East have coherency and a collective brain and a sense of pride connected to their sports teams. Maybe the boys from Boston go into Cheers and down a few talking about Kevin Garnett’s heroics while Atlantans sip Chardonnay on the couch occasionally breaking from their sexual embrace to glance at the mayhem on the TV.
Yeah…it’s a team that wins 2/3 of its games,.but no other team at this level has such a sad sense of total disarray when things start to go wrong. You can admire a team that prepares itself for combat, goes out and gives an honest effort for the entire game and uses common sense to spot errors and correct them. You can respect that even if they lose. But the Hawks just seem to…..fall apart. , When the shot clocks start spinning and the superstars start drawing non-existent fouls….the Hawks don’t get a break because they have fits of dumbness, even if they are the superior team..
.
I would think a real fan would be able to spot consistent problems that maybe need fixing with just some common sense and I think they do. Follow the patterns..We have zone problems. It is not our job to fix this. It is Woody’s job to fix this…
How about it you crazy guys who are defending mediocrity? Your cover is blown anyway if you are responding to “Rick Sund.” , .. . .
As for that guy from Philly…he better watch out before some southern he-man dusts him with a polka dot hanky.
TheBark n' TheBite
March 7th, 2010
2:53 pm
Okay ya’ll it’s real BONE here I’m not using BONE anymore becuz someone has stolen my moniker. He can have it.
O'Brien
March 7th, 2010
3:27 pm
Ken S,
One good thing about the playoffs is the games will not be back to back, so Woody will be able to ride his 7-9 rotation (as most coaches do in the playoffs).
northcyde,
I agree that JJ has to make those shots, but he has been under the weather, and he went 3-14 the night before, while playing 37 minutes. In the Miami game, he played 42 minutes, and missed 12 of 15 in the second half. I just think its a combination of him being tired and under the weather.
One issue I have with Woody from last night’s game is Josh played 46 minutes against Miami, and played 42 minutes last night, while Joe Smith played really well in the first half against Miami (8 points, 2 rebounds in 7 minutes), but did not see the court the second half.
If Woody wants his starters to be fresh to play the entire fourth quarter, then he has to find more rest for them during the game.
Najeh,
I dont think the Hawks will make a comment like what Chauncey said, but it doesnt mean that they dont feel that way. Most teams in the NBA probably feel that way.
Hawks need to beat the Knicks, becuase now is not the time for losing streaks. Plus we are 15-15 on the road, and their goal is to have a winning record on the road.
joBjo
March 7th, 2010
3:39 pm
do you think Woody has lost the team? Hawks players seem to have given up on the D being the way to the promised land. All Woody is interested in is rebounding and defense and yet the Hawks defense has gotten worse as the season has progressed. its as if the guys have tuned Woody out. or r these new American millionaires too preoccupied to have to bother with defense, esp while they are working so hard on fun stuff like their offensive game? Like humpty dumpty, we r left to hope they can put it all together again before the playoffs hit
joBjo
March 7th, 2010
3:49 pm
I’d rather live in Atlanta area. But there is so much to do and such good weather that the poor ol Hawks take a back seat. That’s just the way it is, but that doesn’t mean the team can’t entice the area to pack the stands. It’s just a little harder here than in iceburg city or where ever philliphan prefers. But it is going to take more than playing basketball. gonna have to do a little more PR type stuff. The leaders of the team [whodat?] have to connect with the city better. I give Jamal credit for picking it up in that category for Atl.
northcyde
March 7th, 2010
4:00 pm
And this is what I’m talking about when I say reactionary comments.
We had just won 6 of our last 7 games before last night. How in the world does a loss @ Miami = Woody losing the team? The guys haven’t turned Woody out. They simply need to play better defense and rebound the basketball.
And make open shots.
And Philly fans still suck.
big worm
March 7th, 2010
4:11 pm
joe smith 8points in 7 min 1st half 2nd half i don”t remember him playing woodson might be worst coach in nba he’s just lucky he has a talented team.
Grandad
March 7th, 2010
4:16 pm
Philly Fan = Jon Kincaid:
Ditto SWAT Native!
Also I-85 runs north.
‘How ’bout them Temple Owls’…Go Dawgs!
joBjo
March 7th, 2010
5:30 pm
well the Hawks didn’t play any D against the Warriors either, nsyde, it’s not just Maimi. and the fact is our defense is giving up more points as the year goes on despite that being 1st, last and in the center for Woody.
delo
March 7th, 2010
5:40 pm
“now you know nation” i must have told the truth. sometime the truth hurts. you know when you tell the truth some people get mad. remember the first amendment.
vava74
March 7th, 2010
5:44 pm
Northcyde, those wins came mainly against sub-par teams and the losses came against playoff teams.
Miami lost O’Neil right at the begining and we let -AGAIN- the opposing team torch us from the 3point land at stiffle us with a zone.
We keep on loosing games exactly the same way and Woody never makes ANY adjustments.
It’s like watching a car crashing off a curve exactly the same way over and over with driver continuing to drive the car the same way.
Clyde
March 7th, 2010
5:50 pm
FIRE WOODY
Da Truf
March 7th, 2010
5:59 pm
Recent wins against Minnesota, Chicago, Philadelphia, Milwaukee,and Golden State gives some fans enough room to talk about how ‘hot’ the Hawks are, and leads them to believe they’ll be above to beat the elite in the east in a 7 game series? LOL delusional.
Hawk n the Ham
March 7th, 2010
6:01 pm
vava74….. Albert Einstein defined “Insanity” as, insane is doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results.
Da Truf
March 7th, 2010
6:03 pm
The Hawks next four games are against NY, Washington, NJ and Detroit. Even if they go 4-0, the comp is so awful that it doesnt give you any reason to believe the Hawks can win a 7 game series against any of the playoff teams, but I’m sure some delusional ‘real fans’ will beat it in the ground about how ‘hot’ the Hawks are after that 4-game stretch, even though in reality it would have proved nothing. That’s just real.
JeJe
March 7th, 2010
6:06 pm
LOL The Hawks will be the one team in the SE division that DOESN’T beat the Lakers at home. Lakers are getting owned by our division. Why can’t they stop in ATL now?
MARVIN AND BIBBY ARE THE 2 WORST STARTING SFS AND PGS IN THE GAME. THINK ABOUT IT. BESIDES RAYMOND FELTON AND CONLEY, NO OTHER STARTING PG COMES CLOSE TO BEING AS BAD AS BIBBY.
OTHER TEAMS’ BACKUP PGS ARE LIGHTYEARS BETTER THAN BIBBY: GEORGE HILL, MARCUS THORNTON TO NAME A FEW
LOL WE HAVE 6 YEARS AND 40M+ left in THESE 2 SCRUBS. MARVIN HAS NO HEART, HAS THE MOST AWKWARD LIMP EVER, AND FLAT-OUT SUCKS. BIBBY IS HORRENDOUSLY OVERWEIGHT AND CANNOT GUARD 1 PLAYER IN THIS LEAGUE. HE PROBABLY COULDN’T EVEN DEFEND A MARIO WEST 3 POINTER
GOOD JOB SUND
JeJe
March 7th, 2010
6:16 pm
LOL Matt Barnes has the nerve to confront Kobe. We have Marvin Williams, who probably has never shoved a player in his life. What a joke. No one on this team will commit a hard foul, besides ZaZa who plays 10 mpg these days.
WAY TO BUILD A ROSTER
Da Truf
March 7th, 2010
6:21 pm
Truf is, the Hawks are puss and so are most of their fans, not all of you though. Just those ‘real fans’ who get mad if anybody says anything that isnt a complete jock ride of the Hawks, especially of JJ, Woodson, Smoove, and Horford Disciples.
Point out the inefficiencies with the team and all of a sudden you are ‘arent real fans’ to them.
Section 303
March 7th, 2010
6:36 pm
Da Truf, just remember that ripping players/coaches does not always make you insightful. A lot of times it makes you a total d-bag. So, try and keep that in mind.
JeJe
March 7th, 2010
6:39 pm
HAWKS HAVE 7 COMBINED LOSSES BETWEEN THE HEAT, KNICKS, AND THUNDER (4 OF WHICH ARE AT HOME). WOW WHAT AN ELITE TEAM! LOSING TO THOSE 3 TEAMS 4 TIMES AT “THE HIGHLIGHT FACTORY!”
WE ARE GOING TO THE ECF, EVERYONE~!
Clyde
March 7th, 2010
6:42 pm
Jeje just snapped lol
FIRE WOODY
Da Truf
March 7th, 2010
6:42 pm
Section 303, if the players and coach perform like d-bags at times, then they deserve d-bag treatment.
Clyde
March 7th, 2010
6:43 pm
MARVIN AND BIBBY ARE THE 2 WORST STARTING SFS AND PGS IN THE GAME. THINK ABOUT IT. BESIDES RAYMOND FELTON AND CONLEY, NO OTHER STARTING PG COMES CLOSE TO BEING AS BAD AS BIBBY.
OTHER TEAMS’ BACKUP PGS ARE LIGHTYEARS BETTER THAN BIBBY: GEORGE HILL, MARCUS THORNTON TO NAME A FEW
LOL WE HAVE 6 YEARS AND 40M+ left in THESE 2 SCRUBS. MARVIN HAS NO HEART, HAS THE MOST AWKWARD LIMP EVER, AND FLAT-OUT SUCKS. BIBBY IS HORRENDOUSLY OVERWEIGHT AND CANNOT GUARD 1 PLAYER IN THIS LEAGUE. HE PROBABLY COULDN’T EVEN DEFEND A MARIO WEST 3 POINTER
FIRE WOODY
Thomas Freeman
March 7th, 2010
6:46 pm
Hey Philly Fan, congratulations on having “real fans” that beat each other to death in parking lots. Also, gotta love the fact that your response to every criticism is the classic and intelligent “Oh yeah, well, um…you’re gay!” The sixth graders at Nazareth Academy Grade School want you to stop using their comeback. You stay classy, Philadelphia.
Sautee
March 7th, 2010
6:51 pm
Philly Fan,
I noticed that you ignored my question.
How’s that tough love working out for the Sixers?
rusty
March 7th, 2010
7:10 pm
northcyde, you are so lame all of your excuses for woody,jj & the hawks. woody does nothing for the team,truly a horrible coach. i am so sick of the excuses for jj. you can never really depend on him. he is what is wrong with our offense. get smart you fans you all cant be blind
northcyde
March 7th, 2010
7:25 pm
Hawks record vs winning teams: 22 – 16 ( 7th in the league )
. . . only 8 teams have winning records vs teams over .500 ( the top 4 teams in each conference have winning records vs teams over .500 )
The good teams feast off of the teams with below .500 records, and mainly battle each other to the death when it comes to teams over .500 records.
The only thing about the Hawks, is that they continue to be Jeckyl and Hyde on the road. Having said that, we’re one win away from equaling our road win total of last year.
Hawks just simply need to make open jumpshots. From Bibby to Marvin to JJ . . . making the jumpshot ( and/or rebounding the miss ), plus playing solid defense, is what got us to where we are as a team today.
It’s not rocket science.
kwooden1
March 7th, 2010
7:35 pm
Didn’t see the game, but listened to it on the web. I was fully confident they we’re going to lose this game after the tough game against GS. This was a tough loss because it was another winnable game. Woody has improved this season when it comes to using his bench, but he’s still a slow learner. I can only assume that Joe Smith was hurt the entire 2nd half and that is why he didn’t play. I will also assume that Bibby was playing so well that it made Woody forget about Teague. For years I’ve believed that Woody has a good plan and then forgets it the minute the game gets tight. Now I’m realizing that Woody doesn’t forget his plan he just can’t help himself. He doesn’t trust his own principles. I know he has a rotation in mind before the game, but he just decides not to go with it. He believes that his gut will tell him the way to go during the game, and it works out sometimes. He has to realize that it’s his job to put his guys in the best position to win, not try and win the game with his decisions. Joe is a great a shooter, when he has his legs. The HAWKS are a good rebounding team when Josh has his legs. Woody has to learn to keep those guys fresh. When those guys aren’t 100% we’re a 500 team, but if those guys are rolling we’re elite!
Last nights game came down to execution in the 4th and our offensive failed. But I believe if Woody stuck with his rotation through all the previous games, along with adding more time in the 2nd half for the bench, then the starters would have had more legs for the 4th quarter last night.
GO HAWKS!!!
northcyde
March 7th, 2010
7:37 pm
Well stop watching the team then Rusty. If the coach and our star player and the rest of the team disgust you that bad . . . don’t watch us. Follow another team.
For every bad shooting game that JJ has had, I can list a great shooting game he’s had. Woody will make a bad or questionable decision, but get no credit whatsoever for a good decision he makes.
But if you, or the rest of the people around here, expect me to overanalyze every win and loss we have around here, it’s not going to happen. Every game around here . . somebody is a “hero” or MVP one game . . . and a bum and an idiot the next.
That’s what’s truly lame. The way opinions swing from game to game about our players.
This is a good team. But we have flaws. You all know what they are. Some believe it has everything to do with the coach, even when guys miss wide open shots. The coach isn’t absolved from blame though. He’s a part of the problem. But he’s not what is holding us back from being “great”. You could easily list about 5 – 10 things keeping us from being great.
But he . . and the rest of the players people bag on all the time on here . . are also part of what makes us real good as well.
The only argument that people can say about the Hawks, is that we’re not an elite team on Cleveland’s or the Lakers’ level. The rest of those teams around the 40 win mark, play very similar to how we play, from a consistency standpoint.
It simply is what it is.
As I told JeJe . . . if you don’t believe this team can get it done, you may be better off watching another team. I don’t know what else to tell you.
niremetal
March 7th, 2010
7:56 pm
Philly Fan,
I live in your hometown. I found this highly amusing:
The region demands championship caliber play much more than you guys, and WE GET it. (atleast from one of the pro sports..if not more)
You do realize that until 16 months ago, Philly hadn’t won a major pro sports title since 1983, right? And that in the interim, the Phillies, Sixers and Eagles had only been to 1 championship series each? In the interim, Atlanta’s major pro sports teams won 1 title and went to 5 more championship series?
That being said, I commend Philly for having fans that will support their teams even if they do suck. Sadly, Philly is the only city I know where “support” includes going to games and booing the team if it loses. Real classy.
rusty
March 7th, 2010
8:02 pm
northcyde can you really tell me woody is a good coach,do you like our iso-joe slowdown offense with little ball movement. joe is a really streaky shooter & i dont think his over dribbling eating up the time actually helps our offense. you say for every bad shooting day joe has that he has a great shooting day. if he is he has to do better than that.we have a lot of great atheletes on this team we need to play an uptempo game.
will woody ever develope a point guard,will he ever stop over using our first team
Banks
March 7th, 2010
8:08 pm
I have been a hawks fan for a long time. The problem I see is that Woody is always berating his players. He never praises Teague for making a good play but always jumps on his azz for mistake. He does this to all of the players. For a young player this can destroy his confidence just like he destoryed Acie Law IV conindence. I think this negative attitude is what makes the hawks tight in 4th. We need to use Joe Smith moore I don’t know if him getting hit in the nose was the problem. The Hawks also seeem to be a jump shooting team and refuse to go to the basket or attack. Until these problems get solve the hawks will not be successful. I think we have come a long way and I am proud of the strides we have made. But in order to go to the next level we need to be more aggressive in the 4th and not have a coach who panics and does not have a since of calm in crunch time
Phillysucks
March 7th, 2010
8:22 pm
As for PhillyFan. Philly is the fillthiest most miserable city in the world . I also belive that Phillyfan has latent homesexual tendicies. Philly is the closest thing we have to a third world country in the US.