Hawks Squawks: Hawks 116, Bulls 92

Chicago– If the Hawks came out with a focused effort, the Bulls didn’t have enough talent in uniform to handle them. That was no sure thing after the Hawks went overtime with the Bucks last night. But the Hawks jumped the Bulls early and then held them off when they tried to rally behind Derrick Rose.

– “They were focused and locked in,” Woody said of his players. “We didn’t lose our composure. That’s a good sign after we played an overtime game last night. Back-to-backs are tough, especially on the road.”

– The Hawks could have relaxed after Luol Deng (knee) was a late scratch to join Joakim Noah (foot) on the injured list. Instead, they handled their business “You don’t want to have a letdown,” Josh said. “You can’t think this is a just a walk-over.”

– Smoove certainly didn’t play that way. He had nine points, three rebounds, two assists and a steal as the Hawks took a 27-17 lead. Final line: 17 points, 18 boards, four assists, two steals and all kinds of energy.

– “Smoove was tremendous again tonight,” Woody said. “That’s back-to-back games. The energy he brings is unbelievable. He really got the guys going tonight.”

– Smoove finally acknowledged what’s been pretty obvious: He’s sending a message to the Eastern Conference coaches who left him off the All-Star team. “Obviously I’m playing with a chip on my shoulder,” he said. “I feel like I’ve got a lot to prove. I know the importance of these last games and I’m trying to focus on winning them.”

– His 18 rebounds paced the Hawks’ 68-37 demolition of the Bulls on the boards. “They didn’t really have a lot of guys that can rebound except for Taj Gibson,” Josh said. “So we felt like we could be aggressive on the boards.”

Horford had 10 rebounds, Marvin and J.J. nine apiece and Zaza seven. “We finally had a game where everyone was focused on going to the boards,” Woody said.

– This game is evidence for the theory that if Jamal is hitting, then the Hawks don’t have so much trouble putting opponents away. He scored 21 points and shot 6 for 13. “It’s coming back around,” he said. “I’ve been thinking too much. I’m definitely getting my timing back.”

– Give Smoove another assist for that. Jamal said he told him to keep shooting. “He’s an extremely good shooter,” Josh said. “I do the same thing with Bibby and Joe Johnson. He can’t get down on himself. When you have a teammate behind you telling you to keep shooting, it gives you confidence.”

– This is another example of how Josh has become more assertive as a leader. His words have to carry a lot of weight when he’s playing like this. “He’s doing it all,” Jamal said. “Blocking shots, rebounding, steals, assists. He’s a great teammate. He’s genuinely happy if he scores three points and we win.”

– The Bulls had almost no chance with both Jamal and Marvin getting it done. Marvin was big when the Hawks held off the Bulls in the second half. “There are a lot of guys on this team who can really pass the ball, so I just tried to stay active, go to spots and find the ball,” he said.

– Marvin and Kirk Hinrich got called for a double technical for some jawing. Then Marvin bumped Hinrich on the way off the court at halftime. Hinrich and Bulls coaches pleaded for a second technical and ejection for Marvin but officials missed it.

– Marvin said there’s no history between the two and he doesn’t expect any carryover. “That’s just some chippy stuff out there,” he said. “I’ve always been a big fan of his. I know he’s a competitor who plays hard. I’m easygoing but I can get chippy, too.”

– Did you see Mo’s falling-down shot from behind the backboard? Amazing, and it should have been and-1. “I am waiting on the whistle, waiting on the whistle and concentrating on the shot,” he said. ” But I don’t hear a whistle and I’m like, ‘OK.’”

– Mo said he banged his back against the basket standard on that play and had a sore left shoulder and neck after a later fall. He said his arm was tingling when he shot free throws after the second fall. “I had a rough night, man,” he said.

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

214 comments Add your comment

darrell starks

March 1st, 2010
11:55 pm

ME FIRST !!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

March 1st, 2010
11:55 pm

GO HAWKS!!!!!!

darrell starks

March 1st, 2010
11:56 pm

We get big Z FINALLS BABBY.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!

SSG HUnter

March 1st, 2010
11:57 pm

Nate ArchiBALL

March 1st, 2010
11:58 pm

I think this is slowly becoming Josh Smith’s team………

darrell starks

March 1st, 2010
11:58 pm

STARTER BIBBY, JOE, JOSH, HORFORD, BIG Z
BENCH JAMAL, MOE, MARVIN, JOE SMITH, ZAZA
GO HAWKS!!!!!!

SSG HUnter

March 1st, 2010
11:59 pm

Curse this slow connection!!!

SSG HUnter

March 2nd, 2010
12:00 am

Who was that cat who looked like Marvin Williams tonight?

doc

March 2nd, 2010
12:05 am

mc love the tid bits man.

Taylor

March 2nd, 2010
12:12 am

Josh Smith with the number one play on sportscenter and Mo Evans with number three

Raider Fan

March 2nd, 2010
12:17 am

What about the Mario West Dunk?

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

March 2nd, 2010
12:18 am

What an impressive win of back to backs – on the road even. Who cares if Da Bulls were shorthanded – The Hawks lost to 8 men in Golden State the other day. Good to see Jamal kick it in gear and Horford break out of his mini-funk. Marvin showed up today!!! Great win – on to the next one. lol

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

March 2nd, 2010
12:19 am

Nate Archibald – I agree with that sentiment. Josh is the MVP of this club.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 2nd, 2010
12:22 am

Thanks for confirming with this blog post what I’ve been saying all year. J-Smoove = Hawks MVP. Getting teammates involved, bringing energy, making big plays, and now you can add locker room leadership to the mix.

Jay Bilas and NBA coaches owe him a public apology.

Melvin

March 2nd, 2010
12:28 am

Good Stuff, MC….

Najeh Davenpoop

March 2nd, 2010
12:40 am

Yahoo’s Adrian Wojnarowski, in his latest column, says:

With all those shooters surrounding him, double-teaming Howard is a doomed proposition.

Please forward to Woody, Mr. Wojnarowski.

falcons pick spoon

March 2nd, 2010
12:42 am

Anybody got a link to the mario west dunk?

Najeh Davenpoop

March 2nd, 2010
12:53 am

The Spurs are buying out Michael Finley and Yahoo speculates that he may go to Boston.

I’m not posting this as an endorsement of bringing him in (although I wouldn’t mind) but for those of you still unhappy about Jerry Stackhouse going elsewhere, Finley would probably provide a lot of what Stackhouse does in terms of professionalism, veteran savvy, playoff experience, and bench scoring.

northcyde

March 2nd, 2010
12:54 am

Josh is the MVP of the week, but we know who the MVP of the team is. He gets no respect from the majority of the fan base though.

As for Smoove, I’m glad he’s really asserting himself on the boards. I always thought he had the ability to grab 10 boards a game, so to see him grab 10+ boards in 5 of the last 6 games, is definitely refreshing to see. His defensive rebounding is very important to the success of this team.

northcyde

March 2nd, 2010
1:01 am

Najeh . . . we didn’t double Howard much the last time we played them, and he destroyed us. The key to beating Orlando is not letting them get 2nd shots. If they miss a 3, we have to get the rebound. We also can’t let Dwight destroy us with him grabbing offensive boards.

cdog

March 2nd, 2010
1:07 am

great win over chicgo but rick sund has to be sick in the head if he fails to get a big man with the current roster. if he wants the hawks to go to the finals he better sign ilgauskas. if he don’t, he needs to be looking elsewhere. he has to be sick to believe they can beat the cavs or the majic with that small front court plus the hawks don’t press and run and gun is what they need to become if he remains small.sund wake up. i know you don’t think the hawks are too good to trade for someone ? if so, you have to be sick in the head

josh

March 2nd, 2010
1:11 am

great to see jsmoov playing like the talented player he is!

but dang, i need to see a link to the mario west dunk! missed it!

Big Ray

March 2nd, 2010
1:49 am

Najeh Davenpoop:

Thanks for confirming with this blog post what I’ve been saying all year. J-Smoove = Hawks MVP. Getting teammates involved, bringing energy, making big plays, and now you can add locker room leadership to the mix.

Jay Bilas and NBA coaches owe him a public apology.

Amen to that. And yet his contributions will continue to get belittled by some. Ya know, he’s only MVP for the week….

ignition

March 2nd, 2010
2:10 am

JOSH MVP

Mario West Dunk was My Highlight… Josh’s One hand’r and Mo behind the backboard shots were sick…

northcyde

March 2nd, 2010
2:10 am

No belittling. I’m just being real about things. He HAS been the MVP this week. I’m just not going to act like the dude has played at this high of a level all year.

Overall, he’s played better than I expected him to play though. And this week, he’s been outstanding. His new-found toughness is what I like. To rebound like he’s been rebounding lately, you have to have the mindset that you’re going to grab every rebound that comes off the rim.

Ramon

March 2nd, 2010
2:36 am

Northcyde, who would you say is the team’s MVP?

northcyde

March 2nd, 2010
3:51 am

Ramon, the team’s MVP is obviously Joe Johnson.

He’s the guy that has been making the tough shots all year. He is the guy that the opposing team gameplan to stop. He’s the guy whose presence on the court, makes life easier for other guys . . . even if he isn’t scoring. He’s the guy that allows Jamal Crawford to go up against a weaker defender, when he and JJ are playing together. ( the other team’s best perimeter defender will ALWAYS guard JJ )

But when he goes to the bench, this team tends to fall completely apart, especially defensively out on the perimeter. It even happened tonight. The run that the Bulls made at the end of the 3rd quarter, came IMMEADIATELY after JJ went to the bench, even though JJ wasn’t having a good shooting game.

Smoove’s February was outstanding.

18.6 ppg
10.0 rebs
5.4 assists
2.3 stls
1,4 blks

55% FG
67% FT

Those are tremendous numbers for Smoove. But I guess people simply overlook what JJ did in February as well.

23.7 ppg
4.3 rebs
4.2 asst
1.3 stls

50% FG
45% 3FG
83% FT

And the guy would even average more points if he got the superstar type calls that other top level scorers get. When a guy can shoot around 50% FGs,when the entire team is trying to stop you, it says something about the level of that player.

People hate ISO-JOE around here so much, that they fail to realize how good of an ISO player JJ is. When that guy is on, he makes Kobe-esque type shots. Every ISO-JOE miss gets criticized extensively. But the ISO-JOE makes hardly get noticed, unless he’s hit 4 or 5 shots in a row off of ISO offense. Fact is, just about all of your top players in this league, are extremely good at isolation offense.

As far as JJ as a playmaker, if Bibby and Marvin would start making jumpers, his assists would jump right back up to over 5 assists per game, because those are the guys who JJ passes to, when he gets doubled.

Both Josh Smith and Joe Johnson are very important to this team. But JJ is the Alpha Dog on this team. That’s not a diss to Smoove. It simply is what it is.

But the fans want Smoove to be “the man”, instead of JJ. I think people are jaded by JJ, because he is quiet, while Smoove is the emotional fireplug of the team. But the national media isn’t calling JJ the “Silent Assassin” or the “Quietiest Superstar in the League”, for nothing.

KevinA

March 2nd, 2010
4:18 am

northcyde,

I guess that is why we have blogs. Josh is the alpha dog in this pack. This team is slowly trending for more touches for the big’s and they have done great with extra opportunities. JJ is a great ball player but in reality by the end of the year he should be the third option behind Josh and Al. Now if JJ got to the line more I would agree. If JJ attacked the basket more I would agree. Most of the time our offense goes stagnant is when were shooting jumpers off of allot of dribbling. I still dream of the day JJ and Jamal use more of their excellent skills to drive and pass. They are not into the Josh mode yet of pass first shoot 2nd. If they get there we can go to yet another level.

JJ and Jamal can shoot us to leads and can go on hot streaks. Josh is the complete ball player who can take over games on either end.

KevinA

March 2nd, 2010
4:31 am

People hate ISO-JOE around here so much, that they fail to realize how good of an ISO player JJ is

But the fans want Smoove to be “the man”, instead of JJ. I think people are jaded by JJ, because he is quiet

I think your wrong. When we push the ball and get into our set early, JJ can do an ISO play and still pass with 7-9 sec left. Where some of us get upset is the walk it up the court with no urgency, dribble and then pass with 3-4 sec left. That is dumb play for an All-Star vet. That has nothing to do with being quiet. But your right about one thing – JJ is one of the best in the business when it comes to one on play.

KevinA

March 2nd, 2010
4:51 am

JJ has improved by not dominating the ball as much with his dribble. BIbby and crew have improved getting into sets faster. Ball movement and assists are getting closer to the games when we had blow outs. Al and Josh are finally getting more touches. I give JJ much credit. Life is good at the moment with a decent schedule for the next 10 games. Go Hawks.

JeJe

March 2nd, 2010
6:03 am

MICHAEL CUNNINGHAM:

What do you think of Woodson’s quote that the rotation will shorten in the playoffs, but the vets (Joe Smith + Collins) should look out for more minutes. WTF does this mean?

JeJe

March 2nd, 2010
6:05 am

gwite

March 2nd, 2010
6:17 am

Mario West SuperMario Dunk video:

http://picasaweb.google.com/burn1cesharpe/SuperMarioDunk#5443989062828451346

If not clear enough, click on “View HQ Video” on upper right of player window.

“Super Marioooooo”. (Chris Weber)

northcyde

March 2nd, 2010
6:37 am

JJ the 3rd option? Really? LOL . . OK

So what happens in the playoffs, when Smoove and Al have to go up against the big frontlines that tend to neutralize both guys? Remember, the kryptonite to this team are frontlines who can defend and dominate on the boards.

Horford has struggled mightily against big centers all year. He can try all he wants to be that back to the basket scorer. But ever since he declared that he could be a “go to scorer” at All-Star Weekend, he has struggled mightily after the break. He’s forcing his offense in the half court, trying to back people down. He needs to stick with the shot that he can be successful with . . . the midrange jumper.

Smoove is not a halfcourt offense scorer. He gets 40% of his points within the first 10 seconds of the shot clock elasping, usually off of a defensive rebound that is being pushed up the floor ( most of the time by him ). As the shot clock winds down, his shooting percentage plummets, because he can’t make a shot outside of 5 feet, and his post game is weak against decent defending PFs. Bottom line is that if Josh Smith can’t get to the rim offensively, he’s not an efficient offensive player at all. His hotspot data proves that, without a shadow of a doubt.

http://www.nba.com/hotspots

As a passer, Smoove may find his niche as a Point Forward. I like the way Woody has allowed Smoove to play this role in the offense. The only problem with that, is if you have a good defending PF who can guard his dribble, there’s no need for anybody to sag off of their man to help contain Smoove. This now forces Smoove to create his shot, something that he is not good at.

So there’s no way those 2 guys can be your main scoring options on the Hawks. Maybe in the future, but not right now. Their inability to create AND MAKE shots, is a detriment to the halfcourt offense.

The one good thing about those two, is that they look for each other offensively. But they usually have big scoring games, when we’re defending and rebounding well, and they’re able to get out and run. And both guys need to be set up by other people, in order for them to score the basketball.

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This is why JJ is the alpha dog on offense. And this is why Crawford, when on, is the secondary dog, before Smoove and Horford.

I’m not anti-ball movement, but when Horford and Smoove are up against guys who can defend them, they’re not going to get good looks in the offense, due to their inability to create AND MAKE shots. With JJ, that’s not an issue. Same with Crawford. While they may not make every shot, they’re going to make enough of them to be the “go to guy” on the team at any given point in the game.

Unlike Smoove, JJ sees about 40% of his points come in the last 8 seconds of the shot clock winding down. That dribble, dribble, dribble pass at the last minute, usually gets Marvin or Bibby a wide open look. It’s not pretty offense at all, but it does get guys good looks.( although it’s bad when Smoove is the one catching the ball 20 feet away, with 3 seconds on the shot clock ).

Even a forced jumper by JJ ends up being a quality shot, because he can make that shot over 40% of the time on most nights. Most guys in this league can’t make a created jumpshot with a defender in their face 40% of the time. The good ISO players can though.

You say JJ has improved by not dominating the ball as much with his dribble. I say JJ has improved, because his shotmaking has been unbelievable this year, especially seeing that he has his floater back. A shot he was highly efficient with when he first came to Atlanta.

Should we run more? Definitely. But to run, we need to do what Woody has been telling this team since Day 1. Defend . . . and . . . Rebound.

All of those 4th quarter blown leads are not the sole fault of the offense. The main culprit was bad defense and rebounding by us. That was the problem in the Dallas game. People can talk about offense, but we let Dallas shoot 61% in that 4th quarter and score 34 points. In the Golden St game, they shot 67% in the 4th and we gave up 35 points. That can’t happen, even if we only score 18 points in a quarter.

( the bench gives up early points in the quarter as well, which has been a huge problem all year )

If we got stops, we could push the ball and score. But when we don’t get stops, simply going up the floor fast doesn’t help our offense, because people are already back on defense.

northcyde

March 2nd, 2010
6:47 am

JeJe . . it means that when we play Shaq and Howard, Woody is probably going to call upon Collins and Smith to help defend against those guys, instead of opting to go with Teague and Evans in the rotation. If we play the Lakers in the Finals, we’ll have to consider playing those two guys as well, to offset LA’s huge frontline.

There will be no developmental minutest wasted on Teague in the playoffs.

northcyde

March 2nd, 2010
6:49 am

Some of you need to watch the other NBA teams. They don’t waste time playing useless players that can’t help the squad. Most teams go 9 deep, if that. Very few go 10 deep. So questioning Woody on why the 10th, 11th, and 12th man doesn’t get a lot of playing time, is kind of silly.

gwite

March 2nd, 2010
7:13 am

Probably why Sund and Woodson brought back Mario. To keep some semblance of a defensive presence and atmosphere around the team. People are always yelling “need to run(more)”.

It seems a natural outgrowth(voluntarily or not) of a running team is a loss of a defensive mentality. How many “running teams” are good enough to consistently make the playoffs. Or go deep into the playoffs? Or reach the finals? Consistently.

And if the Hawks are not “playing any defense”, how in the world can Woodson be blamed? For the longest, on this forum, there are those who have maintained that defense was all Woody could coach. Now suddenly, he can’t even do that?

“Running Mindset”, no defense.

“Defensive mindset”, good atheletes, enough running will then be there(eventually). Maybe Woody has it right? Actually, he has been, so far.

gwite

March 2nd, 2010
7:22 am

Did you guys notice who Mario crossed over on the way to his dunk? None other than his old bench buddy, A.C. Law(I think).

Some Sense

March 2nd, 2010
7:32 am

Why is this team just so-so???

dap01

March 2nd, 2010
8:17 am

No one is questioning Woody on why he don’t play the 10th and 11th guys each night. He is being questioned because he don’t play the 7th, 8th and 9th guys correctly. He is being questioned why JJ has played 35 minutes going into the 4th quarter.

Bibby is not starter material anymore.

Why not Findley? He may not help much but he would help.

Josh is the best team player on the Hawks.

don medeiros

March 2nd, 2010
8:17 am

Did Josh Smith mean what he said ?

“They didn’t really have a lot of guys that can rebound except for Taj Gibson,” Josh said. “So we felt like we could be aggressive on the boards.”

How about being aggressive on the boards when the opponents do have a lot of guys that can rebound? Surely he meant something else, right? If not, that team is in deep trouble.

O'Brien

March 2nd, 2010
8:36 am

It’s interesting to see how these games can change with one shot. In the 4th quarter, Bulls down 6, with the ball, Derrick Rose shoots. If he makes that shot, the Hawks lead is down to 4, and we’re locked in a tight battle down the stretch again. Instead, he misses, Hawks score, and blow it open from there.

Game ball to Josh. I’m glad he has that chip on his shoulder. If he keeps this play up, he might pass Horford for the rebounding lead, and he might pass JJ for the assist lead. He might also be in the running for all NBA defensive team (even if it’s third team).

Marvin played well, but it just makes it more frustrating as a Hawks fan, because you can’t help but wonder why can’t he have these games more often? What does it take?

Good to see Crawford make some shots. He will help with our fourth quarter woes.

AJ,

A backcourt of JJ, Rose and Hinrich would be tough. And then Deng, Noah and Gibson in the frontcourt to build around, that would be a really nice young team. I hope it never happens though, because we need JJ to stay put.

Hawks struggled in the 3rd, but we stayed focused and put the Bulls away. I know the Bulls are undersized, but why can’t we rebound like this every game? Is it mostly lack of effort?

Let’s keep the winning streak going.

vava74

March 2nd, 2010
8:43 am

Hi don,

Are you of portuguese or brazilian descent?

Fundamentals

March 2nd, 2010
8:53 am

Great pounding of an obviously injured team. We should’ve done that to GS, but another opportunity is coming. Nice job by Josh on the boards. Definitely nice to see Marvin really assert himself. He had a mismatch all night. Good to see him take advantage. Also nice to see Woodson use his bench effectively of late. Definitely good to see Teague out there with folks he can pass it to and expect results. Looking forward to another key victory.

Any news on more buyouts other than Finley?

niremetal

March 2nd, 2010
8:55 am

KevinA,

I know how much you drool over Josh and Al and how you apparently think that shooting guards should always think pass-first (which is a bizarre role to expect from them…and btw, Josh is not a pass-first player. And if your PF is a pass-first player, something’s wrong with him). Considering that you said a few weeks back that you think Horford has the potential to be a Tim Duncan-like scorer (which pretty much confirmed that you have zero perspective on the abilities of our frontcourt players), I guess I shouldn’t be surprised by your post. But…

But to suggest that JJ should or will be the third offensive option behind them is just absurd. Neither of them can create their own shot from the perimeter, and neither have remotely close to the type of Shaq-esque power or Duncan/Hakeem/Admiral-esque low post repertoire that it takes for a big man to be the #1 option on a playoff team. And JJ was an All-Star starter this year for a reason.

Josh and Al rarely draw double teams unless they get a severe mismatch in the post. JJ draws them the majority of the times he touches the ball, including when the opposing team’s best perimeter defender is guarding him. Despite that, JJ’s EFG% (.510) and TS% (.544), which are the most complete measures of offensive efficiency, are only slightly lower than Josh’s (.519 and .552) – and this is the first time in their career’s that Josh has been higher than JJ’s at all. And do you think that it’s coincidental that Josh’s increased efficiency has come when he has fewer touches than in any season since 2005-2006?

If we asked him to take on a greater scoring load, Josh’s efficiency would almost certainly drop. That’s the way shooting percentages work, because on average, each additional shot per game taken by a player is less efficient than the last (kinda like the basketball world’s version of decreasing marginal utility). That’s probably the biggest reason why Brook Lopez scores more but is less efficient than Horford, despite the fact that I don’t think anyone can dispute that Lopez is the more skilled offensive player. You seem to think that Josh and Al’s efficiency would not go down if their usage rate went up. But as a general rule, that’s not how things work.

As for Al, as much I love him (he is and remains my favorite Hawk), his offensive game is not even in the ballpark necessary for him to overtake JJ as a lead scoring option. He is a league-elite rebounder and one of the best on-ball post defenders in the league, and has a level of toughness and heart that is unmatched for a player his age. But he’s not Tim Duncan. At all.

I think that Josh is the Hawks’ MVP this year, which is probably just about the only thing I agree with Woody on. But the reason I think that is not because Josh is a better offensive player than JJ. It’s because of his monumental impact on D, ever-improving work on the boards, and increased efficiency on offense. I’ve never understood why you and some others feel that praising Josh and Al somehow requires belitilling other players. It doesn’t.

niremetal

March 2nd, 2010
9:03 am

I really don’t get it. Josh is a great passing big man and he’s shown off that skill this year, but “pass-first?” Not even Vlade Divac, the best and most unselfish passing big man in the game’s history, was a pass-first players. Your PF can’t be a pass-first player without creating some pretty serious spacing and balance issues.

Josh is a great passing big man does not –> Josh is a pass first player, the best passer on the team (something said by someone at Hawksquawk), or that JJ is selfish
On the other hand, JJ being our best offensive weapon does not –> he is the team MVP or that we should look to trade Josh at the of the year (something else said yesterday by someone at Hawksquawk)

Recognizing a player’s strengths doesn’t require hyperbolizing them or taking shots at other players.

niremetal

March 2nd, 2010
9:07 am

Y’all can go over to HS to see some of my posts directed at Northcyde, the HawkSquawk version of Samuel. He goes too far in the other direction, overstating JJ’s abilities and not sufficiently recognizing how limiting and ultimately self-defeating the ISO-Joe offense is.

Hey northcyde, do you understand yet that 3>2? ;)

JeJe

March 2nd, 2010
9:15 am

“Some of you need to watch the other NBA teams. They don’t waste time playing useless players that can’t help the squad. Most teams go 9 deep, if that. Very few go 10 deep. So questioning Woody on why the 10th, 11th, and 12th man doesn’t get a lot of playing time, is kind of silly.”

That’s not the point. The point is that Woody doesn’t use the 7th 8th and 9th guys much or at all. Last night was the firs ttime in a while that he has given minutes in the 2nd half too. HE DOES NOT USE THE BENCH IN CLOSE GAMES. HE IS BURNING OUT OUR STARTER’S LEGS. CAN YOU NOT SEE THIS

JeJe

March 2nd, 2010
9:16 am

GOOD POINT DON

SMOOVE AND HORFORD NEVER BOX OUT ON D AND JUST RELY SOLELY ON ATHLETICISM. SMOOVE COULD BE REBOUNDING EVEN MORE THAN HE DOES NOW

JeJe

March 2nd, 2010
9:16 am

Why even follow this team the rest of the year? We haven’t shown we can beat Orlando or Cleveland, so it’s an automatic 2nd round sweep

Season is over