Mavericks at Hawks, AKA Lineups, Perspective and My Big Z Delusions

Brendan Haywood and the new-look Mavs are here. (JOHN F. RHODES/DMN)

Brendan Haywood and the new-look Mavs are here. (JOHN F. RHODES/DMN)

I’m going to refrain from talking about how the Hawks can make some kind of statement about being an elite team against the Mavs. I do this mostly because I usually don’t like building up regular-season NBA games too much but also because I’m written out and need to hand off to the Hawks blogosphere. There’s good stuff out there on lineups, perspective, J.J.’s future and my delusions about Big Z.

– Both Hawk Str8talk (get well soon) and Peachtree Hoops are trying to figure out the best personnel combinations for the Hawks.

atl_hawk_luv says put Teague in the starting lineup not just because of the rookie’s speed and defense but because Bibby would help the bench and J.J. could see a “glimpse of his future with the Hawks” alongside Teague. He wants Mo instead of Marvin, too. Whichever lineup you favor, he’s clearly hit on the two weak spots among the starters.

hawksdawgs is “no longer clamoring for bench usage like (he) once was” after seeing the reserves out there as a unit and realizing the Hawks “just don’t have great depth.” But he thinks they have some “decent pieces” on the bench and so asks: “The bigger question going forward is not whether Mike Woodson should use at least an eight man bench. He should. . . . No, the bigger question is how to combine the bench pieces with the starters. What are the best lineups to maximize the skills and minimize the weaknesses?”

Well said. Woody’s struggling with that issue right now.

– Hawks superfan, ATLien and Slam Mag hack Lang Whitaker answers reader email and calls for some perspective. Responding to a reader upset about that mess in Golden State, Lang says he understands the emotional swings: “Perspective and patience aren’t exactly the hallmarks of rabid fans, who are, after all, fanatics. I know that this is a frequent theme I keep hitting on here over and over, but it can’t be stressed enough: The NBA season is a marathon. You lose a game, you have to put it behind you and start fresh.”

Lang also touches on J.J.’s future plans and says something that I need to remember as I keep seeing all these various reports about J.J. favoring this city or that city while I hear nothing like that from people who would know: “The truth is, I don’t think anyone, including Joe, knows what’s going to happen this summer. And anyone who tells you they do know what’s going to happen is lying to you.”

– Over at Hoopinion, Bret Lagree skewers one of my Ilgauskas posts. Lagree dismisses Ilgauskas’ size and experience as irrelevant because he thinks he’s just not very good or useful to the Hawks and also says he’s no longer much of a shooter. (In my defense, I did write way back when: “He once was an offensive threat in the post but has become more of a jumpshooter late in his career. Ilgauskas has slipped to 38 percent shooting on jumpers this season, according to 82games.com.)

Lagree concludes: “I think it’s even more delusional to believe that Ilgauskas would help the Hawks than that he would sign with the Hawks.” Well, then call me delusional because I disagree with him on the former (but have never believed the latter). Even so, I like Lagree’s style (and substance). Keep on skewering.

– After talking to Jamal, I don’t think the shoulder is much of an issue. I think he’s just slumping. He says not to worry, he’ll be fine.

– The Mavericks are quite pleased with that trade. Well, Tim Cowlishaw is at least.

– Caron Butler may not play tonight. If he does play he won’t be chewing on straws and isn’t happy about it. (I used to chew on straws but grew out of the habit.)

– Remember, the game is at 7 tonight after ESPN moved it up.

– Talk amongst yourselves, Hawks fans.

MC

442 comments Add your comment

Hawks v. Mavs

February 26th, 2010
9:28 pm

“how many of yall grab the back of yall head when dirk took that shot”

not so much for dirk as it was for kidd, i could see him getting the game winner like that

Uno-Ocho

February 26th, 2010
9:29 pm

Kidd is a chicken spit wussy!!
That wasn’t “smart” – it was lame……He was out of bounds!!!!

BONE

February 26th, 2010
9:29 pm

OMG Al has sucked

National Betting Association (NBA)

February 26th, 2010
9:29 pm

Man they sure wrote a nice script to this one.

BONE

February 26th, 2010
9:30 pm

OMG the hawks are not smart

joeBjoe

February 26th, 2010
9:31 pm

overtime and the starters are tired. way to go Woody.

rob

February 26th, 2010
9:31 pm

BONE

February 26th, 2010
9:31 pm

Well the hawks are gonna lose. They just wanna shoot jumpers

Hawks v. Mavs

February 26th, 2010
9:31 pm

lookin like i can turn this off real soon

IREPATL

February 26th, 2010
9:31 pm

refs stole this game from us…..lol game over………?

BONE

February 26th, 2010
9:32 pm

Man Al has been as bad as ZAZA this game

Blast

February 26th, 2010
9:32 pm

Hawks have played well, but they will lose this game if they play the way they are doing so far.

allen

February 26th, 2010
9:33 pm

Where is the super Joe at.

Mike Hunt

February 26th, 2010
9:33 pm

will hawks score in ot?

National Betting Association (NBA)

February 26th, 2010
9:33 pm

Hollywood doesnt even have movies out right now with better scripts than this. LOVE IT.

bigdave

February 26th, 2010
9:34 pm

wish we had a developed Jeff Teague… id go small right with them…

drmaryb

February 26th, 2010
9:34 pm

FREE. BASKETBALL!

Jody

February 26th, 2010
9:34 pm

The officials are HORRIBLE! Josh had a dunk and they call that crap.

IREPATL

February 26th, 2010
9:34 pm

joe went off whole game….will we show up in the last 2mins? we will see

J.J.M.

February 26th, 2010
9:34 pm

hawks have been exposed

Sautee

February 26th, 2010
9:34 pm

I hope Woody can adjust to the zone Dallas is playing, or game over.

allen

February 26th, 2010
9:35 pm

Playoff type game we will blow it. Its hard being a Atlanta fan in any sport.

BONE

February 26th, 2010
9:35 pm

Woody and the word Adjust don’t go 2gether

BONE

February 26th, 2010
9:36 pm

DEZZ NUTTZ

February 26th, 2010
9:36 pm

HORFORD PLAYS LIKE A HOE

Hawks v. Mavs

February 26th, 2010
9:36 pm

“not shot well”?

they haven’t scored at all …

bigdave

February 26th, 2010
9:36 pm

would have thought Jamal was trying to penetrate there… decides to pull up…

BONE

February 26th, 2010
9:37 pm

WTF is joe doin

Hawks v. Mavs

February 26th, 2010
9:37 pm

that’s game over now

bigdave

February 26th, 2010
9:37 pm

good offensive basketball…

Mike Hunt

February 26th, 2010
9:37 pm

OT shutout. Game over.

Rising Son

February 26th, 2010
9:37 pm

I hope we can get a defensive center real soon Horford is weak.

BONE

February 26th, 2010
9:37 pm

Anotha game choked away. Josh shoulda known Kidd would pass that seriously.

IREPATL

February 26th, 2010
9:38 pm

me= disgusted

BONE

February 26th, 2010
9:38 pm

BUT OFFENSE DOESN’T MATTER.

rob

February 26th, 2010
9:38 pm

we can buy a shot now, a game of runs ends on Dallas making theres, oh well

#21=Top50,1stBallot

February 26th, 2010
9:39 pm

Iso does not work in the zone. Use a clipboard, a napkin, or woody’s forehead to draw up a play with ball movement, please.

RISE UP

Hawks v. Mavs

February 26th, 2010
9:39 pm

Hawks: 7.5 back, losing
Raptors: 12.5 back, tied

Melvin

February 26th, 2010
9:40 pm

Another Hawks scoring drought…

bigdave

February 26th, 2010
9:40 pm

iso a zone.. pick and roll a zone…? no zone offense hmmm…

Blast

February 26th, 2010
9:40 pm

Ok. Hawks gonna lose vs Maverick tonight. They tried, but lost, so hater sheave your swords!

bigdave

February 26th, 2010
9:40 pm

good drive Joe…

National Betting Association (NBA)

February 26th, 2010
9:40 pm

You people are all tools, this crap is rigged.

MAD-DONNA

February 26th, 2010
9:40 pm

HA! What a bunch of clowns!

Astro Joe

February 26th, 2010
9:40 pm

I don’t understand how all of that tricky dribbling that Jamal does can’t get hin in the F’ing lane.

Well, this will be a good loss for the hawks. Time for Woody to teach these guys how to defeat a fairly simple zone defense. Because they will surely see this again… in the first round most likely.

National Betting Association (NBA)

February 26th, 2010
9:41 pm

Trust me, I’m a gambler.

bigdave

February 26th, 2010
9:41 pm

wow.. hmm.. tough loss…

BONE

February 26th, 2010
9:41 pm

MAN SERIOUSLY HORFORD HAS SUCKED THIS GAME. NO BETTER THAN MARVIN.

IREPATL

February 26th, 2010
9:42 pm

looooooooool @nba

Mike Hunt

February 26th, 2010
9:42 pm

No center, no chance against a team that has one.