Mavericks at Hawks, AKA Lineups, Perspective and My Big Z Delusions

Brendan Haywood and the new-look Mavs are here. (JOHN F. RHODES/DMN)

Brendan Haywood and the new-look Mavs are here. (JOHN F. RHODES/DMN)

I’m going to refrain from talking about how the Hawks can make some kind of statement about being an elite team against the Mavs. I do this mostly because I usually don’t like building up regular-season NBA games too much but also because I’m written out and need to hand off to the Hawks blogosphere. There’s good stuff out there on lineups, perspective, J.J.’s future and my delusions about Big Z.

– Both Hawk Str8talk (get well soon) and Peachtree Hoops are trying to figure out the best personnel combinations for the Hawks.

atl_hawk_luv says put Teague in the starting lineup not just because of the rookie’s speed and defense but because Bibby would help the bench and J.J. could see a “glimpse of his future with the Hawks” alongside Teague. He wants Mo instead of Marvin, too. Whichever lineup you favor, he’s clearly hit on the two weak spots among the starters.

hawksdawgs is “no longer clamoring for bench usage like (he) once was” after seeing the reserves out there as a unit and realizing the Hawks “just don’t have great depth.” But he thinks they have some “decent pieces” on the bench and so asks: “The bigger question going forward is not whether Mike Woodson should use at least an eight man bench. He should. . . . No, the bigger question is how to combine the bench pieces with the starters. What are the best lineups to maximize the skills and minimize the weaknesses?”

Well said. Woody’s struggling with that issue right now.

– Hawks superfan, ATLien and Slam Mag hack Lang Whitaker answers reader email and calls for some perspective. Responding to a reader upset about that mess in Golden State, Lang says he understands the emotional swings: “Perspective and patience aren’t exactly the hallmarks of rabid fans, who are, after all, fanatics. I know that this is a frequent theme I keep hitting on here over and over, but it can’t be stressed enough: The NBA season is a marathon. You lose a game, you have to put it behind you and start fresh.”

Lang also touches on J.J.’s future plans and says something that I need to remember as I keep seeing all these various reports about J.J. favoring this city or that city while I hear nothing like that from people who would know: “The truth is, I don’t think anyone, including Joe, knows what’s going to happen this summer. And anyone who tells you they do know what’s going to happen is lying to you.”

– Over at Hoopinion, Bret Lagree skewers one of my Ilgauskas posts. Lagree dismisses Ilgauskas’ size and experience as irrelevant because he thinks he’s just not very good or useful to the Hawks and also says he’s no longer much of a shooter. (In my defense, I did write way back when: “He once was an offensive threat in the post but has become more of a jumpshooter late in his career. Ilgauskas has slipped to 38 percent shooting on jumpers this season, according to 82games.com.)

Lagree concludes: “I think it’s even more delusional to believe that Ilgauskas would help the Hawks than that he would sign with the Hawks.” Well, then call me delusional because I disagree with him on the former (but have never believed the latter). Even so, I like Lagree’s style (and substance). Keep on skewering.

– After talking to Jamal, I don’t think the shoulder is much of an issue. I think he’s just slumping. He says not to worry, he’ll be fine.

– The Mavericks are quite pleased with that trade. Well, Tim Cowlishaw is at least.

– Caron Butler may not play tonight. If he does play he won’t be chewing on straws and isn’t happy about it. (I used to chew on straws but grew out of the habit.)

– Remember, the game is at 7 tonight after ESPN moved it up.

– Talk amongst yourselves, Hawks fans.

MC

442 comments Add your comment

rob

February 26th, 2010
8:38 pm

good pass by Josh, he is really filling up that stat card

rob

February 26th, 2010
8:38 pm

Marvin with a block, he just needs to be involved and bring energy

Blast

February 26th, 2010
8:39 pm

Melvin,

I hear you, man. It’s just if I were a coach, I would look to change things up.

Hawks rolling! Josh balling out of his mind.

Dallas has missed 9 in a row. Does that mean they suck? They lead their conference right now.

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
8:39 pm

They Hawks sell more Mario West and Randolph Morris jerseys than Marvin Williams ones. That’s saying alot.

Sautee

February 26th, 2010
8:39 pm

So, do the starters get a breather other than timeouts?

rob

February 26th, 2010
8:40 pm

yeah thats sad we sell more Mario West jerseys, he wasnt even on the team at the beginning of the year

Najeh Davenpoop

February 26th, 2010
8:41 pm

I’m sitting in section 411 right now. At the end of halftime, like they usually do, they scrolled a list of all the elementary schools, YMCAs, and what not who are at the game. In that list was — I kid you not — the “Heatcheck Basketball Team”.

If Nique is not involved with that somehow I will be really disappointed.

rms

February 26th, 2010
8:41 pm

Dang, JeJe you seem to be more infactuated with Jesus than you do the Hawks!!

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
8:41 pm

LMAO and that’s why right there.

Jody

February 26th, 2010
8:42 pm

Marvin has got to make that layup.

JeJe

February 26th, 2010
8:42 pm

MARVIN WAKE UP

IF U EVER WILL

MOST OVERRATED POS PLAYER IN NBA. MAKING BIBBT LOOK GOOD

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
8:43 pm

Haywood’s BEASTIN on those boards right there.

JeJe

February 26th, 2010
8:43 pm

I’M TELLING U. JOSH SMITH DOES NOT BOX OUT

IT’S A FREAKING JOKE

HOW DO U HAVE A DETROIT PISTON CHAMPIONSHIP HEAD COACH AND NOT KNOW HOW TO BOX OUT. GOOD LUCK VS. DWIGHT/BOSH IN THE PLAYOFFS

JAMAL MAKE A SHOT

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
8:44 pm

I wish there was a way we could have kept Flip AND Crawford. It would have been nice to have 2 guys coming off the bench capable of giving you 15-20 any night.

BONE

February 26th, 2010
8:45 pm

Come on Josh get that quad double

Jody

February 26th, 2010
8:45 pm

It’s not as easy as it looks to box out a 7 footer.

Blast

February 26th, 2010
8:46 pm

Watching this game tonight on national tv, basketball fans have to wonder how Josh got left off the All Star game. We all know why, but Josh should have been there in place of Gerald Wallace.

JeJe

February 26th, 2010
8:47 pm

WOODSON’S GONNA PLAY THE STARTERS/+JCRAW THE ENTIRE 4TH. GOOD JOB DEVELOPIGN THE BENCH. I’M SURE TEAGUE COULDN’T HAVE DONE ANYTHING ON BAREA. IDIOT

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
8:47 pm

Joe…drove to the basket strong???

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
8:48 pm

He should do that more

IREPATL

February 26th, 2010
8:48 pm

wow, joe suprised me with a burst of speed to blow past marion, see thats what he needs to do more to be considered a superstar, he doesnt do that enough

Sautee

February 26th, 2010
8:49 pm

Jamal on Josh:

“All great passers have a high basketball IQ and he’s one of the best”.

Jamal must not have read THAT much of the blog, or he’s know how dumb Josh is. :-)

heh heh

rob

February 26th, 2010
8:50 pm

yeah way to run the starters into the ground woody. thanks

Astro Joe

February 26th, 2010
8:51 pm

Najeh, did they have nimbers on their uniforms? Was one of them named Byron Davis?

O'Brien

February 26th, 2010
8:52 pm

Did Woody call him “Hayward”? I expect that from ‘Nique, but not from Woody lol

JeJe

February 26th, 2010
8:53 pm

LOL @ CARON VS. JAMAL

CARON LOVED WASHINGTON

JAMAL WAS BENCHED LAST YEAR

JeJe

February 26th, 2010
8:54 pm

IF CARLISLE WAS SMART HE WOULDA PLAYED BAREA THE WHOLE GAME. THAT GUY OWNS US

BONE

February 26th, 2010
8:55 pm

Damn can Al finish 2nite

bigdave

February 26th, 2010
8:55 pm

defenders will continue to play Al’s move..

Blast

February 26th, 2010
8:55 pm

There are some folks on Hawks blog that I do not think are real Hawks fans. I think they are fans of Cleveland, Boston, Orlando, and LA. But they come in here dropping disparaging comments about our team despite all the travesty Hawks have had in years past, and the relative success they are having now.

It’s really simple.

If you don’t like or support HAwks, then get the hell off our blog! And don’t watch Hawks basketball either, MOFO!

O'Brien

February 26th, 2010
8:56 pm

Did you guys see that?

Kidd coming down the lane, and JJ just backed out of the way. Come on Joe. Foul him and send him to the line.

I hope our starters are not tired to bring us home

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
8:56 pm

lol@JeJe….now you know that’s not possible. Carlisle?? Smart? He was an ESPN Analyst. IMPOSSIBLE!!

joeBjoe

February 26th, 2010
8:57 pm

Al hit his free thows. yeah!

rob

February 26th, 2010
8:58 pm

i Like when Hubie Brown calls the telecast

Rakim

February 26th, 2010
8:58 pm

The highlight of the Hawks franchise history is LOSING a playoff series. Bird Vs. Nique. Nuff Said about the Hawks.

rob

February 26th, 2010
8:58 pm

Hubie Brown gives an excellent analysis of our team

IREPATL

February 26th, 2010
8:59 pm

@blast real talk man, but thats what alot a ppl in our town city are a well, plenty of posers throughout atlanta, but real diehards recognize eachother

IREPATL

February 26th, 2010
8:59 pm

lets see what these last mins are gonna bring

Sam from da Swats

February 26th, 2010
9:00 pm

Thanks Woodson, finally Mo Evans in the 4th quarter…

BONE

February 26th, 2010
9:03 pm

Put Josh back in the game woody

joeBjoe

February 26th, 2010
9:03 pm

Al is out of it, can’t leave Dirk!!

BONE

February 26th, 2010
9:04 pm

LOL Terry talkin trash to the fans.

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
9:05 pm

They were probably picking on the size of Terry’s head.

drmaryb

February 26th, 2010
9:06 pm

JeJe… Yeah. Barrea. Is. Playin. & his team is losing! Hey. Man, This is the NBA! Woody got to get to 50 wins. Contract. Year. – Man.

Blast

February 26th, 2010
9:07 pm

Jason can talk all the fan trash he wants. His team has to win this game first.

5th Ward

February 26th, 2010
9:08 pm

IREPATL is right. ATL is a city of posers and fakers. Always have been. Highest gay population %
Stole Bass music from Miami. Stole Crunk music from Memphis. Now you guys are doing skinny jeans and funny haircuts and making gay music, stolen from the Bay Area of Cali.

Houston is the capital of the south.

joeBjoe

February 26th, 2010
9:09 pm

Smoove got caught cheeting toward Dirk.

joeBjoe

February 26th, 2010
9:10 pm

wish we’d got that Haywood.

joeBjoe

February 26th, 2010
9:10 pm

what’s with Al!=?

BONE

February 26th, 2010
9:11 pm

Now does everybody see what I’m saying. I don’t care about playing good in spurts. I want to see them play good the entire game.

I’M RIGHT AGAIN