Mavericks at Hawks, AKA Lineups, Perspective and My Big Z Delusions

Brendan Haywood and the new-look Mavs are here. (JOHN F. RHODES/DMN)

Brendan Haywood and the new-look Mavs are here. (JOHN F. RHODES/DMN)

I’m going to refrain from talking about how the Hawks can make some kind of statement about being an elite team against the Mavs. I do this mostly because I usually don’t like building up regular-season NBA games too much but also because I’m written out and need to hand off to the Hawks blogosphere. There’s good stuff out there on lineups, perspective, J.J.’s future and my delusions about Big Z.

– Both Hawk Str8talk (get well soon) and Peachtree Hoops are trying to figure out the best personnel combinations for the Hawks.

atl_hawk_luv says put Teague in the starting lineup not just because of the rookie’s speed and defense but because Bibby would help the bench and J.J. could see a “glimpse of his future with the Hawks” alongside Teague. He wants Mo instead of Marvin, too. Whichever lineup you favor, he’s clearly hit on the two weak spots among the starters.

hawksdawgs is “no longer clamoring for bench usage like (he) once was” after seeing the reserves out there as a unit and realizing the Hawks “just don’t have great depth.” But he thinks they have some “decent pieces” on the bench and so asks: “The bigger question going forward is not whether Mike Woodson should use at least an eight man bench. He should. . . . No, the bigger question is how to combine the bench pieces with the starters. What are the best lineups to maximize the skills and minimize the weaknesses?”

Well said. Woody’s struggling with that issue right now.

– Hawks superfan, ATLien and Slam Mag hack Lang Whitaker answers reader email and calls for some perspective. Responding to a reader upset about that mess in Golden State, Lang says he understands the emotional swings: “Perspective and patience aren’t exactly the hallmarks of rabid fans, who are, after all, fanatics. I know that this is a frequent theme I keep hitting on here over and over, but it can’t be stressed enough: The NBA season is a marathon. You lose a game, you have to put it behind you and start fresh.”

Lang also touches on J.J.’s future plans and says something that I need to remember as I keep seeing all these various reports about J.J. favoring this city or that city while I hear nothing like that from people who would know: “The truth is, I don’t think anyone, including Joe, knows what’s going to happen this summer. And anyone who tells you they do know what’s going to happen is lying to you.”

– Over at Hoopinion, Bret Lagree skewers one of my Ilgauskas posts. Lagree dismisses Ilgauskas’ size and experience as irrelevant because he thinks he’s just not very good or useful to the Hawks and also says he’s no longer much of a shooter. (In my defense, I did write way back when: “He once was an offensive threat in the post but has become more of a jumpshooter late in his career. Ilgauskas has slipped to 38 percent shooting on jumpers this season, according to 82games.com.)

Lagree concludes: “I think it’s even more delusional to believe that Ilgauskas would help the Hawks than that he would sign with the Hawks.” Well, then call me delusional because I disagree with him on the former (but have never believed the latter). Even so, I like Lagree’s style (and substance). Keep on skewering.

– After talking to Jamal, I don’t think the shoulder is much of an issue. I think he’s just slumping. He says not to worry, he’ll be fine.

– The Mavericks are quite pleased with that trade. Well, Tim Cowlishaw is at least.

– Caron Butler may not play tonight. If he does play he won’t be chewing on straws and isn’t happy about it. (I used to chew on straws but grew out of the habit.)

– Remember, the game is at 7 tonight after ESPN moved it up.

– Talk amongst yourselves, Hawks fans.

MC

442 comments Add your comment

J.J.M.

February 26th, 2010
7:28 pm

ill watch nfl network till smackdown comes on

BONE

February 26th, 2010
7:29 pm

The mavs are playing what people would call BASKETBALL. The hawks don’t know how to play BBALL

Jody

February 26th, 2010
7:29 pm

Since picking up Brendan Haywood, the Mavs have established a defensive prescense inside. Hence, the Hawks are taking contested jumpers that are leading to fast breaks for Dallas.

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
7:29 pm

See, this is what I mean. It’s one thing to compete, play a pretty solid game and come up short….but efforts like this just make you cringe.

16-0…really? Well it’s a long game …..I hope we can comeback and win or atleast COMPETE, but right now this is just pathetic… It’s like Dallas is playing Georgia State’s Mens team.

BONE

February 26th, 2010
7:30 pm

WTF kinda play was that?

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
7:30 pm

Dirk got left wide open for the J on Woodson’s infamous switching D…if anyone noticed. He just bricked it…finally.

bigdave

February 26th, 2010
7:30 pm

nothing… by design after the 1st, there are no other options on offense…

bigdave

February 26th, 2010
7:31 pm

and that was out of a time out..

BONE

February 26th, 2010
7:31 pm

Why the F*ck is atlanta chucking shots

BONE

February 26th, 2010
7:32 pm

This and the warriors game is a prime reason of why woody needs to be fired.

Melvin

February 26th, 2010
7:33 pm

This team needs another scorer. Get Larry Hughes on the phone quick…

Jody

February 26th, 2010
7:33 pm

The best Josh can do is try to force Dirk off of his sweet spots and try to get a hand up because Dirk is going to get great looks at the basket all game because of his size advantage.

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
7:33 pm

Woodson needs a lifetime ban from the game, similar to what the MLB did with Pete Rose.

Barry

February 26th, 2010
7:34 pm

Fire Woodson!

BONE

February 26th, 2010
7:36 pm

Woodson should be slapped with a turkey leg.

Melvin

February 26th, 2010
7:37 pm

No Teague tonight… that midget is going to blow pass Bibby everytime…

BONE

February 26th, 2010
7:37 pm

WTF Al. Al is playing terrible

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
7:37 pm

BONE

February 26th, 2010
7:37 pm

Horford must be drunk

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
7:38 pm

How many point blank misses was that on that last possession????

Jody

February 26th, 2010
7:38 pm

Did anybody else just hear that Woody said if he got Big Z, he would start alongside Al and Josh?

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
7:39 pm

Hawks playing worse than Eduardo Najera’s hair looks.

BONE

February 26th, 2010
7:39 pm

The Hawks suck

BONE

February 26th, 2010
7:39 pm

bigdave

February 26th, 2010
7:40 pm

lol..

20-1 run… my goodness.

BONE

February 26th, 2010
7:42 pm

The worst supposed “GOOD” team in the league your Atlanta Cawks

rob

February 26th, 2010
7:42 pm

this is patheic, we look lethargic, thats what playing like crap against golden state and minnesota get you, when a good team comes in, we get smacked in the face

Blast

February 26th, 2010
7:42 pm

Hawks playing nervous because they are on ESPN? Come on guys, you’re in your own gym!

AL getting good looks, but not just falling. Like how they are going to the inside now.

Jamal is doing too much dribbling up high and running down the clock.

Step it up, Hawks!

rob

February 26th, 2010
7:42 pm

i never see them on tv and when i do, i get golden state, and dallas smacking us

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
7:43 pm

I believe in every time out….Woodson says this: “OK this is what we’re gonna do, we’re gonna inbound the ball cleanly, stand around and try to get the rock to Crawford and Joe so they can get us points, the rest of you guys just show lots of energy!!”

bigdave

February 26th, 2010
7:43 pm

JeJe

February 26th, 2010
7:44 pm

LOL Woody has the starters/+Craw in with 9 minutes left in 2nd. What a moron. Just gonna lose by 20 and burn the starters’ legs

joeBjoe

February 26th, 2010
7:45 pm

need some D Woody?

BONE

February 26th, 2010
7:45 pm

The hawks offense reminds me of the episode of “Cousin Skeeter” where the only play the coach had was pass it to BIG NEIGHBORHOOD.

rob

February 26th, 2010
7:46 pm

they read the scouting report, Joe likes iso they are double teaming!

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
7:46 pm

OK, the Hawks start scoring, but they’re trading baskets. They might have wanted to do that when it was 18-13.

BONE

February 26th, 2010
7:47 pm

And why are the hawks so bad on defense if thats what woody woodpecker preaches?

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
7:52 pm

lol@Woodson actin like he was coachin

bigdave

February 26th, 2010
7:52 pm

Joe ballin…

Blast

February 26th, 2010
7:52 pm

Down only 3!

KevinA

February 26th, 2010
7:53 pm

down 3 – hmmmmmmmmm What a boner

O'Brien

February 26th, 2010
7:54 pm

Horrible drought by the hawks. But they have turned up the defense and the offense to come back. Only down 3.

JustChillFans

February 26th, 2010
7:54 pm

Why do you guys come on the blog everyday talking bad about the hawks? You basically dont have a life if you come on here everyday and you dont even like the hawks.. I dont get it..

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
7:55 pm

Oh no@ESPN’s Woodson boosterism

JustChillFans

February 26th, 2010
7:56 pm

What all you bibby haters gotta say now??? Exactly shut the hell up.

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 26th, 2010
7:57 pm

JustChillFans, maybe because there’s nothing wrong with acknowledging when your team does good AND BAD, instead of acting like everything is OK.

BONE

February 26th, 2010
7:58 pm

If only the hawks were consistent and weren’t just good in spurts.

Melvin

February 26th, 2010
7:58 pm

They should inspect the Mavs backboard during the commerical b/c I think Josh put a dent in it after that block on Stevenson shot…

Sautee

February 26th, 2010
7:58 pm

KevinA, I don’t EVEN want to know what you were talking about.

Blast

February 26th, 2010
7:58 pm

Game ain’t over yet, folks! Stop doubting. Hang with your team to the end!

Did somebody switch channels? You’ve missed some great basketball!