Hawks Squawks: Hawks 105, Jazz 100

Salt Lake City–Forget that Deron Williams and Andrei Kirilenko sat out with injuries for the Jazz. Remember that the Jazz had won 17 of 19, the Hawks had lost 15 straight in Utah and of course they were coming off that debacle at Golden State on Sunday night.

– “It’s big, especially with that long flight home,” Jamal said. “You don’t want to be sitting there thinking about a loss the whole time.”

– The Hawks showed resiliency in winning this one. They were down 85-79 and 95-94 but lots of guys made plays: Al (that blocked shot to stop a fastbreak layup), J.J. (that 3-pointer from the corner and a fadeaway jumper), Josh (blocked shot) and Crawford (the steal and two free throws).

– The Hawks went 2-2 on the trip. “It was a big win after an upsetting loss last night,” Bibby said. “We could have won 3 of 4 but .500 is pretty good.”

– Blowing that 18-point lead at Golden State tested the Hawks’ mettle. “After last night we could have folded it in,” Al said. “Especially with the last game of the road trip, we could have just came out with no focus.”

– “We did a good job of staying together when times got tough,” Bibby said.

– The Hawks came back from deficits in the second and fourth quarters. There wasn’t much of the panicked play that marred the end of the Warriors game. “I thought we were very composed tonight in the fourth quarter when we got down,” J.J. said. “We were able to not get rattled and made a run of our own.”

– The Hawks last won here on Feb. 13, 1993. “‘93? I was 15,” Bibby said.

‘Nique was in uniform that night. “I didn’t even realize that until today,” ‘he said. “Like I told them, records are made to be broken.”

– ‘Nique scored 43 points to beat the Jazz back then. “We had three ‘bigs’ hurt and I had to play power forward,” he said.

– J.J. poured in 28 to finally beat the Jazz again. “It fells great, man,” he said. “It’s been along time since the Hawks won in this building.”

– It wasn’t easy. The Jazz still gave a spirited effort and Energy Solutions Center is notorious as a tough place to play. “You saw the guy waving the little umbrella when I was shooting free throws?” Josh said. “They get under your skin, I’m not even going to lie. You can hear them. They are right there. They don’t stop the whole game. I’m glad I only have to play here once a year.”

– Marvin kept the Hawks in it early. Then Woody went to his bench. He got nothing until Mo gave the defense a lift and Jamal (4 of 8 on 3s) started making shots. “That was a total team effort by everybody who played,” Woody said. “That’s what we need the rest of the way.”

– After the offense bogged down in the third quarter, Smoove spoke up. “He kept harping on us to share the ball, share the ball and make it easier for each other” Al said.

– “I just noticed that we were passing the ball one time and taking a shot,” Josh said. “They were catching our misses and getting out on the break.”

– It was redemption of sorts for Jamal, whose technical foul late at Golden State was costly. It was awful timing for only his fourth career technical. “I rarely lose my composure,” he said. “I’ll take the blame for that loss. When good things happen I get credit so I’ve got to take blame when things go bad.”

– That and everything else about the Oakland meltdown was easier to forget after this rare W at Utah. “Yesterday was yesterday,” J.J. said. “We pulled together and got this one. That’s how we’ve got to think. That’s got to be our mentality: Whatever happened yesterday is yesterday.”

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

276 comments Add your comment

Westurd

February 23rd, 2010
1:42 pm

After a frustrating post season JJ will walk………and Woody will get daz boot

The Truth

February 23rd, 2010
2:01 pm

Let’s face it; JJ has put the Hawks owners in a bad financially spot. They will be force to offer him a max deal to retain his services. I say that because Lebron will set the FA super-star salary-markers to the vicinity of 24M which is Kobe current 2011 salary number. Wade, Bosh and JJ will all follow that number downward but considerably much more then the current salaries. That will force the Hawks owners to venture further into unfamiliar luxury tax land which will sprain them to re-sign Crawford and AL. The owners can’t use the MJ model which could afford JJ the opportunity to recover market-value losses from off-the-court endorsements. We all know the “low-key” soft-spoken JJ is not that kind of guy. THE ONLY WAY HE CAN BE PAID IS TO BE PAID BY THE HAWKS. Once he starts to be handled by his agent this off-season, JJ will likely lose sight of the financial stresses of the owners in this market. If his mentality is to be paid first; then everything else including championship rings etc. is likely secondary.

Michael Cunningham

February 23rd, 2010
2:02 pm

@ Astro Joe: re Jamal: there was no MRI as far as i know. last time i asked he downplayed it. will ask again. he reads the blog and comments so he’ll know what’s coming, haha . . .

re: buyouts: the Hawks are willing to carry 14 if they can find the right guy, not just Z. i haven’t asked Sund about buyout guys yet because it usually doesn’t get me very far. he and other GMs are reluctant to discuss guys still under contract with other teams. should be able to get more once it becomes clearer who else is getting buyouts.

@jerrywest: re: NBA TV . . . man, i was on day no. 12 and city no. 5 of that trip (i went straight from All-Star). i was glad just to be be able to sit upright and speak coherently at that point. wait . . . i was coherent, right?

@ MsDee: “Is it me or is ever since Joe barked at the refs the other game for a no foul call against GS, he has been getting key foul calls of late??” could be. he doesn’t like to do it but it’s the way it’s done in the league. plus he’s the captain and captains get more leeway with talking to the refs. so really JJ should be making his case to the refs and also taking up for his teammates so they don’t have to (hello, Smoove).

@ DecDawg: actually, having covered both guys, i would say the biggest differences between JJ and D Wade is Wade is better at setting up his
teammates for easy buckets, drawing fouls (and getting calls), and getting to the basket on pick-and-rolls (yeah, yeah i know–how can i say that when Hawks don’t run any, haha).

niremetal

February 23rd, 2010
2:03 pm

Fair nuff, Melvin. I still highly doubt he would consider Atlanta. The lineup you just said would be terrible both on defense and in ball movement (come on…you really want Jamal, JJ, and TMac all playing at the same time??), so smart coaches would use it sparingly. There are 29 other teams that don’t have an All-Star and a Sixth Man candidate for T-Mac to compete with for minutes. We would be close to the bottom of his list, I’m fairly sure, especially since we could only offer him the pro-rated mid-level.

Melvin

February 23rd, 2010
2:21 pm

Nire,

Ball movement and offense doesn’t belong in the same sentence when referring to the Hawks/Woody’s offense. And I will stick by my stance that we need more offense from the SF spot and I think T-Mac or any other high skilled SF could provide that. Oh yeah, I see you came around on my Salmons idea…

Barry

February 23rd, 2010
2:25 pm

Hey Y’all:

We need Illgoukas. We need him bad. teams are attackingour middle. However, the hawks are so good they are still winning without one. Boy, I to get a “BIG FELLOW” in the middle to do a little rebounding, blocking, passing, and shooting will take this team to another level. Teams know the Hawks do not have a legitimate center and they are attacking us in the paint. Al Horford is doing a phenomnal job playing the other team centers, but in playoof game, I think it will were him down playing against the average and good centers in the leauge on back to back games. We need ILLGOUKAS. Management, give the man a cal and offer him a championship with these young, knitty, gritty, fast running, defensive playing, sharp shooting HAWKS. He wiil be a “GREAT FIT”.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!! “SHOCK THE WORLD!!!”

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This is a SECRET from a HAWK FAN. TELL EVERYBODY!!!

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Astro Joe

February 23rd, 2010
2:25 pm

Melvin, ideally, our “other scorer” would be a big.. like a Carl Landry type. But I’m sure that no one has read my suggestion that we find a tweener before. Ha!

Doc, oh yeah. The photo of Belkin holding out his hand was priceless. Speaking of which, when was the last time we heard from Flash? Maybe he is helping Belkin wrap pennies. Not because he is poor but because I think that he would love to pay off the $2M in pennies just to yank his “partners”.

Melvin

February 23rd, 2010
2:26 pm

Nice to hear that the Hawks are considering adding a 14th player. If we can’t get Big Z maybe we could get somebody like Tony Battie if he get bought out….

Astro Joe

February 23rd, 2010
2:31 pm

I don’t like Salmons. If we brought in a scoring SF, give me someone with exceptional catch and shoot skills (with distance). Give me a Jason Kapono kind of player. No, he can’t defend too much but we’re talking about 12 minutes a game. I just don’t see the need for someone else who cathes 20 feet away and goes one-on-one like Salmons. A ctahc-and-shoot guy would likely mean more ball movement.

In fact, signing Adam Morrison next summer for a cheap contract wouldn’t bother me at all. As long as our bigs learn how to set a screen without being called for a violation (which seems to happen once per game).

doc

February 23rd, 2010
2:35 pm

MC, good stuff there. didnt take you long to get up to speed here.

especially liked the comparison to jj and wade. the first year here i used to call jj, wade,jr. i think jj changed his game or got a bit stronger, bigger after the first year or two and doesnt have the same skill set now or doesnt use it like he did. also the team was soooo bad it was hard to examine him in the context of the team as he and al harrington were the team.

aj that picture showed bk’s strength and weakness all in one shot. he was a very proud man and i admired him for taking the approach to not suck up at that point to belkin. it also came to haunt him with the media and fans as he was never to be questioned on his decisions. it also played part in him saying no thanks to a one year extension.

with the commercial real estate market down a bit, it might be harder for belkin to fork it up. who knows maybe he will ask for a collection? seems he didnt run to the bank to make the payment did it?

Astro Joe

February 23rd, 2010
2:37 pm

Melvin, agreed. And I’d consider a PG too. If Duhon, Earl Watson or Steve Blake hit the street, I’d grab one of them before a big (I think).

MC, I wasn’t looking for names (obviously no GM would disclose that) as much as positions. Is he only looking for bigs or would he consider a wing or PG?

Mike Woodson

February 23rd, 2010
2:41 pm

Let me get this straight. Utah is just as talented as we are (if not more talented) and they are FAR deeper. In fact, they are so deep that they GAVE away their starting SG AND their promising first round pick PG for NOTHING.

Jerry Sloan is a HOF coach whose team runs precision sets and does everything right. I am an idiot whose team has no offensive sets and does everything wrong.

Utah has the best fans in the NBA and they are relentless from the beginning of the game until the end, no matter who they are playing. Our fans don’t show up for most games and when they do, it is to cheer for the other team.

All of the above is true and yet we swept the Jazz this year and we have virtually the same record as they do right now.

Astro Joe

February 23rd, 2010
2:45 pm

Add that you have no eyebrows and that Sloan sits on the bench with a blank facial expression while you stand up with a blank facial expression and you are right Mr. Woodson.

kwooden1

February 23rd, 2010
2:48 pm

Great win last night! I have to give Woody credit for using the bench more last night, even though they didn’t play that great. It seemed to me that the bench kept losing leads and getting down, but they kept the game close enough and that is what I wanted to see from Woodson. Woody had Joe Smith and Evans in the game during the 4th, which game him a chance to rest JJ and Horford/Josh Smith. JJ seemed a lot fresher for the last 9mins of the game and Horford/Josh Smith had energy to get rebounds. The bench didn’t play well at all though, for Teague to be -17 in 3mins is pretty remarkable, in a bad way! But Woody stuck with them and his starters got the rest they needed. Woody needs to continue giving the bench consistent time. I believe they will learn to a least keep the game close, if not build a lead, if their given the minutes. I still think Zaza is hurt though.

GO HAWKS!!!

niremetal

February 23rd, 2010
3:07 pm

Melvin,

I’ve never had a problem with signing a Salmons type if he gets bought out. I just had no interest in doing what we would have needed to do to get him. First off, I don’t think the Bulls would have gone for a deal centering on Mo-for-Salmons because they made it clear that they were intent on not taking back ANY non-expiring deals salary in the Salmons swap because they need every penny of cap space they have to make a run at free agents this summer.

Also, I know you think Mo is a useless player, but I don’t view Salmons as a significant upgrade to him. In fact, if you look at their career stats adjusted for minutes and pace, they have almost identical stat lines (Mo: 12.6 points and 4.8 rebs per 36 minutes, compared to 13.0 and 4.3 for Salmons, with nearly identical shooting efficiency stats), and pretty much every scouting report agrees – even though you don’t – that Mo is a superior defender thanks to his willingness to play physical D.

Getting Salmons in addition to Mo would be great – it would give us the option of using one or the other depending on the matchup and the situation. Would Salmons be a slight upgrade over more? Sure. But not enough that it would have been worth moving Mo/JoeS/Collins/RandMo to get him (which is what we would have needed to do to get the salaries to work)…even assuming we could get Chicago to agree to take on Mo’s non-expiring deal.

dap01

February 23rd, 2010
3:08 pm

How can Teague be -17 while playing 3 minutes? Did the Jazz score 17 unanswered points in 3 minutes?

O'Brien

February 23rd, 2010
3:08 pm

AJ, 2:45 pm, Funny stuff.

“Give me a Jason Kapono kind of player. No, he can’t defend too much but we’re talking about 12 minutes a game.” AJ

If he cant defend much, how much confidence do you have that Woody would give him 12 mpg?

Our bench has given up leads in games recently. But I still hope Woody will continue to work on finding time for them. Hopefully, with more PT our bench will get their act together and start producing (or extending) leads.

As for JJ, he will get his $15-$17 mil one way or the other. The Hawks have to do whatever it takes to keep him. Because if he leaves, we take a HUGE step back, and in the future, other FA might not want to come here.

Astro Joe

February 23rd, 2010
3:16 pm

OB, Crawford gets plenty of time and his defense is, well, never mind.

terrell

February 23rd, 2010
3:24 pm

Sec 303, how do you know Speedy faked an injury? Talk about dumb. I understand though. Anybody who respects Zaza’s game has to be. lol!

Traceman

February 23rd, 2010
3:24 pm

The following was taken from Frank Hughes’ latest SI.com

“How do the Nuggets go out and defeat the Cavaliers in a fantastic overtime game on Thursday night, then drop a 107-97 decision to the Washington Wizards on Friday night? Yes, they were playing in back-to-back games and had to do some late-night travel from Cleveland to the District. But these are the stripped-down Wizards, who are trying to incorporate Josh Howard and everybody else into their rotation. The loss was especially disappointing given that Carmelo Anthony was playing in front of friends and family.”

The Nuggets lost that game to the Wizards and then beat the Celtics in their next game. The point is that bad losses happen but you have to move on.

It was great to see the guys bounce back last night. I was particularly impressed with our shooting. Jamal, JJ, Bibby, Marvin and Mo all hit some pretty long range bombs last night. When we shoot the ball like that, we can play with anybody.

Section 303

February 23rd, 2010
3:32 pm

terelle, he faked the injury. I don’t think that is really news. I hate that guy. Truely, I hate him. There are no players on the current roster I have a problem with. No one should be compared to Speedy. Speedy is the NBA’s Superdouche.

Rufus1

February 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm

Player development!!!!!

Can someone please tell me why it appears Utah doesn’t miss on PG….they have 3 PG better than our starter

O'Brien

February 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm

Traceman,

On a similar note, the Bobcats have beaten Cleveland 3 times this year. But they have also lost to the Nets twice.

AJ,

True. But Woody likes Crawford’s ability to execute ISOs, and thats key. A stand still shooter would be only hanging out in case somebody passes it to him.

But I would love to see a Kapono or Mike Miller or Korver shooter on the Hawks. Hopefully Marvin will step up his shooting consistency, because he could be the beneficiary of a lot of those looks.

Rufus1

February 23rd, 2010
3:39 pm

Woodson

you have also had 5 lottery picks in 6 years and 3 high priced free agents.

KevinA

February 23rd, 2010
3:44 pm

Josh is taking over the stat line. The way he is playing he may have the rebound lead by the end of the year. Do not throw out the idea of him becoming the team leader in assists.

It’s interesting that the big’s are becoming more and more vocal about passing and even Woody joined the bandwagon in a cameo type way. I don’t think the Hawks have so much a chemistry problem as Al and Josh are becoming more aggressive and demanding the rock. This is what we want team leaders to do.

Sautee

February 23rd, 2010
3:51 pm

AJ,

You said this:

“If all of these other players and coaches were so close to perfect, why on earth would the wart-filled Hawks be among the top 6-7 teams in the NBA?”

Straw Man Alert!

You won’t find in my post you were responding to ANY mention of perfection (or something close), NOR any mention of coaches.

And of the players on my short list, which have YOU seen take defensive possessions off?

I don’t doubt that we’d all find warts in any player we watched as often as we watch the Hawks. But don’t try to turn it around with a straw man argument.

Traceman

February 23rd, 2010
4:00 pm

dap01,

That is not a misprint. When Teague came in, we were up 28-22 with 6.5 seconds left in the first quarter. When he left the game, we were down 41-30 with 8:47 left to go in the second quarter. 19-2 run by the Jazz in a little over 3 minutes.

ntrigue

February 23rd, 2010
4:04 pm

Anybody know where Gerald Green is at?

KevinA

February 23rd, 2010
4:08 pm

I hope the substitution pattern in the future is like last night in the second half. The second unit as a whole can’t match up with anybody but when they are “sprinkled” (Astro Joe quote) in they can be effective.

It will never happen but I would like to see Joe Smith start with Al and bring in ZaZa with Josh. One thing for sure is either Josh or Al need to be on the floor at all times.

Astro Joe

February 23rd, 2010
4:10 pm

Sautee, I’m not. I don’t think anyone here is comparing Joe to your short lists guys, do you? If you have a concern that Bucher did, his email is available at ESPN.com.

Astro Joe

February 23rd, 2010
4:16 pm

Sautee, I thought my point was about watching guys closely for 30+ games (you’re good at quotes, did I not say that)? I honestly have not placed any of your short list players under anything close to the scrutiny as the Hawks players (and certainly not for 30+ games). So is this pick the parts of my qoute and ignore the other parts alert… I don’t quite understand the alert statusing labels.

But without that scrutiny, yeah, I bet that I would see Wade and Lebron take defensive plays off, especially BEFORE their Olympic experience when Kobe taught them a lot about the importance of playing defense in the other guy’s shorts. Before Kobe spent time with them, they were good but certainly not great defenders.

Michael Cunningham

February 23rd, 2010
4:37 pm

@ astro: gotcha . . . i figure they’d be looking at the same things i heard they wanted at deadline: length, shooter, or playmaking point.

@ o’brien: re: kapono is one of those guys who tries hard to defend but just doesn’t have a lot of footspeed. the heat did a pretty good job of making him an adequate “system” defender but with the way the Hawks play D he’d be toast. shocking to see his 3FG% so low this year.

re: Marvin good point, Hawks would be much better if all he did was make shots and rebound consistently.

re: JJ max . . . the thing i get from talking to league folks is this CBA uncertainty is going to really throw things off. most teams will be reluctant to commit max money and years to guys. it’s going to be interesting to see what happens.

terrell

February 23rd, 2010
4:49 pm

Traceman, when Teague came in, who was on the floor with him?

JeJe

February 23rd, 2010
4:50 pm

WOODSON DOES NOT USE THE PLAYERS SUND SIGNED

FAILURE

niremetal

February 23rd, 2010
4:53 pm

Sautee,

Wade takes defensive possessions off. A lot of them. Like Joe, he usually gives half an effort when he’s the one man back in transition, and usually won’t pursue if his man goes by him in the half-court. He will frequently go for the quick steal and then sit back. Off the ball, he will try to get in the passing lanes but rarely will collapse on help for a hard double team. Also, Wade often is not assigned to guard the opposing team’s best wing, although that might be attributable to size rather than skill or effort.

LeBron takes defensive possessions off on occasion too, though I’ll agree he takes far fewer off than Joe or Wade.

You won’t get any argument from me that KG, Kobe, and Duncan don’t take plays off (at least not that I’ve noticed). Although no way in hell would I pay KG max money anymore.

I think familiarity breeds contempt as far as Joe goes. You see him take defensive plays off every night, and therefore assume that he does it more often than Wade, who I’m guessing it’s safe to say you don’t watch quite as often. But Heat fans on their blogs frequently bitch about Wade not giving 100% on D.

niremetal

February 23rd, 2010
4:54 pm

And PS – I’m probably being too harsh on both Joe and Wade. “Usually” is probably too strong a word when it comes to what they do in transition and when they get beat. It just might seem that “many” is “usually” because it’s frustrating to watch.

terrell

February 23rd, 2010
4:55 pm

And it’s not Teague’s fault if he’s not ready. Shoulda got more min earlier in the season. You cant expect a guy to come in an be a worldbeater, when he gets only a few sec of action a game, and usually plays with the likes of Zaza, and Mo Evans. Bout like throwing a rookie qb to the Wolves with a sorry o-line.

The Truth

February 23rd, 2010
5:10 pm

Michael Cunningham

Good point about a JJ max proposal. That was also the chatter that was buzzing this pass summer. As a result, Bibby and Zaza were perceived to have been had for less (at the time) then value. As with most other FAs, they were acquired for less then real value then otherwise in a different market. However the way these players have been struggling (as of late); maybe their agents did them a favor. This upcoming summer might be different though because we are now talking about the league finest players (Lebron, Wade, JJ, Bosh, etc). Because of the volume, clearly this is a unique situation. Sometimes these owners may say one thing and do another. The fierce pace of the recent trades suggests a very bullish off-season FA market.

DecDawg

February 23rd, 2010
5:10 pm

It’s often stated that Joe guards the other team’s best offensive player “every night”…but is this true? He doesn’t guard Lebron, Carmelo, Paul Pierce, Granger or Durant unless there’s a switch. But with regards to switching, so does Josh…and unfortunately, Horford sometimes. Marvin typically draws the toughest wing cover. Joe seems to guard Wade and Kobe a little more than others but let’s be reasonable…we rarely see Joe in the paint on offense or defense and those guys like to go to the rim so Joe may have them outside the paint but who has to cover once they go to the rim?

And I like Joe…but we should at least be realistic in the discussion.

Grandad

February 23rd, 2010
5:13 pm

Traceman and dap01:

To put it into perspective [Teaguer] there were [4] other players on the floor @ the time! The other [4] just so happened to get more playing time, at a more advantagious portion of the game.

Grandad

February 23rd, 2010
5:19 pm

MC:

ON Kapono – Would he be ‘melba’ toast or ‘Bibby’ toast !

Ken Strickland

February 23rd, 2010
5:23 pm

It wasn’t the substitution patterns that made the difference in last nights win, it was the lack of total reliance on ISO’s, one on one and jumpshooting. We actually passed the ball inside, used picks and attacked the basket down the stretch. If you noticed, Smoove and Horford made some excellent passes inside to each other from the key.

The ball movement also made the DEF move and rotate, which made it much easier for JJ to penetrate into the lane without pounding the ball and getting doubled. We have a lot of talent and depth, but not the kind that allows us to effectively play the same way, and utilize the same 6-7 players, no matter who our opponent is. Teams like the Lakers, Mavericks, Cavaliers etc, create mismatches just by taking the floor. We, on the other hand, have to create our own mismatches based on who we’re playing as the gm goes own, and that requires the type of coaching we don’t have.

d.carter

February 23rd, 2010
5:36 pm

Josh Smith needs to be the guy setting the screens in pick and rolls, he is a better finisher around the basket than Horford.. This would allow Al to shoot the 15 footer and be much more active on the offensive glass

Rod from College Park

February 23rd, 2010
6:12 pm

DecDawg,

“Marvin typically draws the toughest wing cover.”

No, Marvin usually tries to guard the toughest wing cover, but after they take advantage of him, (see, Durant, Granger, Lebron, Melo, Gay….) then Woodson is forced to use Joe on them to try to slow them down. the reality is which I an a couple others have said many times this year is that Joe should be playing the 3. He takes advantage of smaller and bigger players, so I personally think with him at the 3 and Mo Evans at the 2 we would become much better defensively. I know someone will say that we will have problems rebounding, but Joe is a better rebounder than Marvin this year from the 2 spot.

Sautee

February 23rd, 2010
6:15 pm

Astro Joe,

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not bugged, I was just calling you out because that sentence had no relation to my post. It was like you were just getting something off your chest, but not in relation to what I had said. (coaches?)

Nire,

I agree about Wade, though he was NOT on my short list. And LeBron has definitely picked his defensive intensity up this year. And you are right, one hardly ever saw TD, KG or Kobe taking possessions off.

And you picked up on my point to AJ, that in my view, taking possessions off is enough to make you NOT an elite player (and not worthy of max money). I also recognize that the “Market” will say differently.

Grandad

February 23rd, 2010
6:22 pm

R.f.C.P.:

Nevermind.

Jody

February 23rd, 2010
6:26 pm

This was an interesting article about the Hawks pursuit of Big Z and some interesting quotes from Al.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-ilgauskashawks022210&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

KevinA

February 23rd, 2010
6:29 pm

Ken Strickland

I was mainly thinking defense when I supported the sprinkle idea of mixing the starters with the bench. It is hard to ignore the total collapse of the second unit in the first half both offensively and defensely.

Getting more ball movement is basically going to the big’s more often. They are good passers. Josh is probally the best at passing on the team without holding onto the ball. Give the kid the ball.

KevinA

February 23rd, 2010
6:39 pm

Jody

I have yet to see Woody experiment with Josh at the 3. Knowing Woody, Iguaskas would end up the second coming of Joe Smith.

Astro Joe

February 23rd, 2010
6:50 pm

Strickland, so if that requires the type of coaching we don’t have and yet we did the right thing last night… who coached the Hawks in Utah last night? John Stockton?