Hawks at Jazz, AKA Woody Says No Need To Panic
Salt Lake City– After the Hawks’ collapse at Golden State last night, Woody said he needs to diversity the offense late in games because the isolation game has made the Hawks too stagnant.
After watching the video, he backed off from that stance a bit.
“We’re good when we are moving the ball,” he said. “But we’ve won a lot of games. I am not going to take them out of their domain. We’ve won a lot of games early with Joe and Jamal making plays off the dribble, either for themselves or for other people. When it works, it looks good. When it don’t work everybody thinks you are standing around and not getting anything accomplished.”
To Woody, the stagnant offense was kind of besides the point to the Hawks blowing that 18-point lead.
“That didn’t beat us last night,” he said. “We give up 35 points in a quarter when we’ve held this team to (73) points in three quarters. That’s a problem. We had breakdowns defensively on transition defense. Our court balance coming back, it was awful. I bet we gave up eight points from guys getting behind us and not picking up the ball.”
Is that a lack of focus?
“(It’s) that, it’s effort,” he said. “We had two guys that played really significant minutes last night. The bench played well; the bench did adequate last night. It’s mainly the guys that have carried us to this point that’s getting us beat in the last two games. Go back to the Phoenix game (and) we had our best players on floor against their second unit and couldn’t get it done. It’s not a need to panic or anything like that. It’s things that are correctable. As a coach I’ve got to help them get over the hump.”
If the main guys aren’t getting it done, would he look at changing up his rotation?
“My rotations are based on who is giving me what on the floor,” he said. “When they made their run, I had the ‘rook (Teague) and Zaza in the game. And then I came back with our (main) guys, which is the right thing to do. It’s our guys that’s got to carry it home. They can’t have the slippage they had and let games like that get away.”
So Woody thinks it’s on him to get them over the hump, what can he do?
“I don’t like blaming players,” he said. “I don’t single out players. I feel like I’m in charge as the coach, and I’ve been around long enough that I can take the heat. In taking the heat, I’ve just got to help them. I’ve got to get them through those stretches where things are not going well for them. I’ve got to get them to relax and doing the things I know we can do to win games.”
– Question: What plays would you like to see more of from the Hawks? I don’t say that to mean they shouldn’t try something else, just interested in what you think it should be.
The Bibby/Josh pick-and-roll seems to work a high percentage of the time as long as the result is a pass to Smoove rolling to the basket. Because right now Bibby isn’t much of a threat to turn the corner and he’s not making shots, either. So what you see lately is both defenders cheating to prevent Josh from getting the pass and instead taking their chances with Bibby driving or shooting. Bibby sometimes can thread the pass through anyway but so far he’s not making defenders pay for dropping off of him.
J.J. can turn the corner and he can make shots, so he draws a lot of attention from defenders. But he would have to be decisive coming off screens. J.J. is partial to what another hack calls the “slow-drip” game: holding the ball on one side of the floor, methodically sizing up his defender, deliberately working his way to the rim and shooting a pull-up or that runner. He’s dang good at that but if the goal is to create more movement then slow-drip isn’t going to get it done.
Pick-and-pops with Horford are an option. Most fives have to back off of him because he’s quick enough to go around them, so he usually has room to get off his shot. Al is shooting 44 percent on jumpers and a little more than half his attempts come from outside the paint, according to 82games.com.
Many of you are calling for more burn for Teague and that’s a reasonable view. He can defend on the ball and the Hawks need that. But could he run the pick-and-roll effectively? Woody praised Stephen Curry for already knowing how to play the pick-and-roll game coming out of college, something he says isn’t all that common. Teague says he ran a bit of pick-and-roll at Wake Forest but that the Demon Deacons mostly ran dribble drive motion under coach Dino Gaudio.
I know that’s not a full list of OOTI (Options Other Than Iso) but just wanted to get a discussion started.
– My Iso-Joe count in the fourth quarter of eight games: 15 possessions, 16 points, one turnover, three missed shots by teammates, and three offensive rebounds of his misses.
– Suddenly the Hawks not only have to worry about the Magic pulling away from them but they also have to watch the Raptors creeping up from behind. Toronto seems to be playing with the kind of urgency the Hawks lack lately. Jarrett Jack scored seven straight points in the fourth quarter last night to help the Raptors overcome a nine-point deficit and beat the Wizards:
“We know how desperately we need these wins coming down the stretch, making this final push at the end of the season, especially the ones at home,” Jack said. “They’re very crucial, they’re very vital to how things are going to play out in the standings. We can’t let these opportunities slip through our fingers.”
– Will you forgive and forget if the Hawks win at the Jazz tonight for the first time since ‘Nique scored 43 on on Feb. 13, 1993? The Jazz have won 17 of 19, after all, and a W gives the Hawks a split on the four-game trip. Would a big victory cancel out two bad losses?
– After the Jazz traded Ronnie Brewer, All-Star guard Deron Williams complained ownership isn’t really shooting for a title but is interested only in staying good enough to make money. Shoot, he should take a look around the league lately. He’s got it pretty good here.
– Williams was a late scratch with a thigh bruise and Andrei Kirilenko is out with back spasms. I want to say the Hawks caught a break with those guys out, but I was at the game in Oakland last night, so I can’t.
– Talk amongst yourselves, Hawks fans.
MC
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279 comments Add your comment
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:06 pm
lets get it…
think the guys come out pissed…
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:12 pm
AND1… give him his whistle!!!
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
9:15 pm
they should be pissed. bigdave.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:17 pm
It’s not how u start, it’s how u finish. So this early run means nothing to me. They better close this game out right.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:20 pm
Duck has turned into Darkwing Duck
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
9:21 pm
BONE, we know… you’ll complain every minute of a 48 minute victory… and then find a reason to complain about the win. But hey, you’re consistent.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:22 pm
Astro Joe this ain’t the time. Don’t test me. Otherwise I’ll sic Duck on YOU.
JeJe
February 22nd, 2010
9:22 pm
WOODSON SAID HE WILL SHORTEN ROTATION IN PLAYOFFS (NATURALLY) BUT WILL GIVE COLLINS AND JOE SMITH MINUTES
LOL THIS GUY IS AN IDIOT
SERIOUSLY
READ WHAT I JUST WROTE
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
9:22 pm
Marin actually look like a professional basketball player early. Anybody want to bet that he disappears in the second half?
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
9:23 pm
gotta admit I like the isoJoe when it works. esp when he gets the short shot in the lane.
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
9:24 pm
Hawks should destroy Utah without Derron Williams.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:25 pm
“Sic DUCK on you”… now THAT’s a phrase you don’t want to commit a typo on.
Sautee
February 22nd, 2010
9:26 pm
Rod,
Props to you for giving Marvin his.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:26 pm
LOL @ Najeh. I double checked b4 I pressed submit
IREPATL
February 22nd, 2010
9:27 pm
marvin must b lookin @ the blog n reading how he gets bashed cuz he seems motivated
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
9:27 pm
No one to really worry about but Millsap and Boozer. It would be nice if someone chose to check them.
Sautee
February 22nd, 2010
9:27 pm
Najeh,
Made me LOL two nights in a row.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:27 pm
joe b joe…
its the most efficient offense we have…
Ree Roe
February 22nd, 2010
9:28 pm
Utah has no Deron Williams, no AK 47, but watch us still find a way to lose. With that said, Go Hawks!
-REEticulated Roe!!!
Dylexics Untie
February 22nd, 2010
9:29 pm
Y’all are just bein’ nasty!
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
9:30 pm
sad but true, big dave.
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
9:31 pm
Joe is doggin on D.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:31 pm
Here’s a little Chinese riddle:
If Woody doesn’t care about the offense, and the defense is terrible, then WHAT THE F-CK IS WOODY DOING?!!???!!?!?!?!
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
9:33 pm
y have Joe do the foul? where is the coach?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:34 pm
Wow, that was a dumb foul.
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
9:36 pm
You guys can believe that those guys don’t read the blogs if you want too. I promise you someone with the Hawks does.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:36 pm
And the way we ended that QTR is exactly why I said it doesn’t matter how we start only how we finish. AND I WAS RIGHT.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:37 pm
leave him in coach…
Ree Roe
February 22nd, 2010
9:38 pm
Good first quarter, but Woody’s substitution patterns have been so terrible recently I don’t kno what to expect from ZaZa, Teague, Mo or Joe Smith anymore. SMH @ Teague
-REEligiously Roe!!!
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:38 pm
Pachulia SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
9:38 pm
Korver would average 25 ppg on the hawks.
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
9:38 pm
wasn’t gaines in our camp before the season?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:38 pm
Rookie mistake by Teague.
Here’s another situation where double-teaming backfires. The Hawks’ rotation out of the double team was actually pretty good, but a good shooter will bury a shot even with a hand in his face if he’s in rhythm. And of course, it doesn’t help if you slap him while he shoots either.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:39 pm
Again PaFOOLIA
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:39 pm
Zaza — 2 possessions, 1 shot blocked, 1 turnover.
Please, for the love of God, get him out of there.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:40 pm
“The momentum has swung” says Bob Rathbun.
I think we need to call Zaza the Human Pendulum, because that seems to happen an awful lot when he comes in the game lately.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:40 pm
This game is over already
rob
February 22nd, 2010
9:40 pm
what is ZaZA good for falling over himself? Woody is so inconsistent he never plays the bench players all together at the same time, no cohesiveness for the group
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:40 pm
Everytime zaza comes in the other team goes crazy
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
9:40 pm
I forgot to add that they have S. Gaines, and Korver also.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 22nd, 2010
9:41 pm
Hawks lettin teams 2nd units punk em
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:42 pm
Nique from deep!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:42 pm
Ran-dolph Mor-ris! (clap clap clapclapclap)
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:42 pm
zaza is like a taller bibby
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
9:43 pm
Does ZaZa have on a Jazz jersey under his uniform….
rob
February 22nd, 2010
9:43 pm
its over
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 22nd, 2010
9:43 pm
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO who is that tall white dude…..hawks makin buddy look like Tim Duncan or Shaq
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:43 pm
Woodson should punch Za Za…
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:43 pm
I WAS RIGHT AGAIN. THE HAWKS MELTDOWN CONTINUES. WHERE ARE ALL THOSE FOOLS TELLING ME TO SHUDDUP. NO YA’LL SHUT THE HELL UP.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:43 pm
If Big Z can suit up for the Cavs after they trade him, can Nique suit up for the Hawks after this commercial break?
I don’t think he can be any worse than Zaza at this point…
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
9:43 pm
I hope Woody plays the bench again in the second half. They look GGRREEAATTTTT!
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
9:44 pm
Stop switching and ply man to man Woody.
Enough Is ENOUGH
February 22nd, 2010
9:44 pm
man this is embarrassing, only 2 pts in the qtr thus far
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:44 pm
no lie… Randolph probably could contribute more than Za Za
JustChillFans
February 22nd, 2010
9:44 pm
OMG i swear zaza is the worst back-up C in the history. And every single person on the blog was like “bring zaza back, we need him” hhahahahhahahaahha. he doesnt even play defense. can he even jump off the ground?
J.J.M.
February 22nd, 2010
9:44 pm
smh this team is done…should have made a trade
rob
February 22nd, 2010
9:44 pm
ZAZA sucks, and we just stand around and look at each other, no movement and or energy = double digit loss and Toronto creeping up and takin that seed from us
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:44 pm
at least be able to catch and finish.. or jump?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:45 pm
16-2 Jazz in this quarter.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
9:45 pm
More of these guys and less of Horford, Josh and Joe please.
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
9:46 pm
BONE,
“zaza is like a taller bibby” LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. Or Marvin.
Sautee
February 22nd, 2010
9:46 pm
Teague is trying WAY too hard. He needs to back it off just a notch.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:46 pm
58% shooting for the Jazz.
Again I ask — if Woody doesn’t care about offense, and the defense sucks, is Woody there for decoration?
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
9:46 pm
Jazz on a 31-9 run…My goodness…. Yep, this team couldnt use another scorer…
rob
February 22nd, 2010
9:47 pm
i dont even think we can get out the first round, reminds me of the hawks team that got bounced in the playoffs by Charlotte in the day. Everyone said hey can we beat Jordan and the bulls in the 2nd round? We didnt even get a chance to try, first round and out this year. we need to worry about at least getting to the secound round and keep this 4th seed, or else
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:47 pm
Joe can’t wait to leave this team
AND ANOTHER DAY ANOTHER PG TEARIN US UP
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:48 pm
At the very least, I think it’s time for Joe Smith to leapfrog Zaza in the bench rotation.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
9:48 pm
I do remember us having a debate about making a play for Marcin Gortat and some members of the blog suggested we were better off with Zaza.
That doesn’t seem to be the case, at least not at the moment.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:49 pm
HAWKS ARE PATHETIC
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:50 pm
Marvin DESTROYED LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 22nd, 2010
9:50 pm
lol@Marvin takin it up like a bish
rob
February 22nd, 2010
9:50 pm
Fesenko! we need him
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
9:50 pm
MARVIN??????????????
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:51 pm
300 + big boy is a load…
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:51 pm
8 offensive boards ALREADY for the Jazz is the difference in this game right now.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:51 pm
the hawks are the only team in the NBA that makes scrubs look like superstars
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 22nd, 2010
9:54 pm
I see the same thing again…..The Hawks are being outhustled…whats up with that???? Woodson must really have this team depressed…then again, I would be traumatically effected too if i had to look at that eyebrowless dome piece of his everyday in practice for weeks
GIVE WOODSON THE ROPE!!!
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
9:54 pm
How many easy buckets have the Hawks given up to this point…
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:54 pm
wasnt a great reb. Jamal just doesnt box out..
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
9:54 pm
all we have to do is be close at half time, no need to panic yet. I think Woody needs to give the bench steady minutes. We don’t have a chance to win the division. the only chance in the playoffs is is to get the first and second teams both playing at their highest levels and they need steady minutes to do that.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:54 pm
Another offensive board, 2 more second chance points.
Giving up offensive boards really just demonstrates a lack of effort, not a lack of skill or planning.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:55 pm
Nique is getting tired of Josh LOL
He said Josh needs to give the ball up to the PG and he will give it back. The way he said it was like he was annoyed vy Josh. I am too.
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
9:55 pm
Hawks has given up too many offensive rebounds for the Jazz…
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
9:56 pm
Melvin
“Jazz on a 31-9 run…My goodness…. Yep, this team couldnt use another scorer…”
But I was crazy for wanting Stephen Jackson. Hell I’d take Kyle Korver. He would knock down that open 3 all day.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:56 pm
i still feel that the 2nd unit must find minutes. they look horrible today.. but usually thats how 2nd units look on the road. especially after havent played in days…
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 22nd, 2010
9:56 pm
Jazz scrub players are crashing the O boards while the Hawks stand around and watch. This is a team full of players who are always waitin on the next man to do something.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:57 pm
Nique is getting tired of Josh LOL
He said Josh needs to give the ball up to the PG and he will give it back. The way he said it was like he was annoyed vy Josh. I am too.
.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:58 pm
Nique is getting tired of Josh LOL
He said Josh needs to give the ball up to the PG and he will give it back. The way he said it was like he was annoyed by Josh. I am too.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:58 pm
complain and complain about Joe… most of his looks are in high % areas… he’s allowed to force a few…
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 22nd, 2010
9:59 pm
Just look at Marvin Gay Williams….He doesnt even look like a winner.
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:00 pm
Good decision by Woody to rest Joe for the last 2mins of the half. He’s working hard out there….
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 22nd, 2010
10:01 pm
plz no more folds
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:01 pm
like that he’s getting to the line… but Al has to work on drop stepping a finishing left or to over his right shoulder… he’s too predictable..
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
10:02 pm
Yeah, that was a bad play by Josh. Ideally he would leave the point guard duties to the guards, but if he insists on bringing it up, he should at least go up and either finish or get fouled when he gets in the paint. Passing it from that position is not a good plan unless there’s a shooter wide open.
Then again, here’s Josh getting the board and passing it up the court perfectly to allow Horford to draw a foul.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
10:02 pm
Uh oh… Josh makes a jumper…
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
10:03 pm
Crawford usually draws a foul on those pull-up jumpers with people hanging all over him…
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:03 pm
Josh got foul at least 3 times on that play…
terrell
February 22nd, 2010
10:04 pm
Woody drawing up a play. lol!
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 22nd, 2010
10:04 pm
that last possession was the most hustle i’ve saw out of this bunch in a min, they were leavin it all on the floor
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:05 pm
Nice to see the Hawks comeback to take a 3pt lead at the half after being down the 10pts early in the 2nd qtr…
O'Brien
February 22nd, 2010
10:08 pm
Why does Woody call a time out with such little time left at the end of the quarter when the play that we run does not need a time out to run?
Good job by the Hawks starters to get the lead back.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:08 pm
I don’t know what made me think of this just know but I remember earlier in the season in one game the hawks called a timeout and Marvin walked to the wrtong brnch LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
Damn Marvin is str8 comedy
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:09 pm
wassup wit RandMo? not on the bench tonite?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
10:09 pm
Nice to see the Hawks leading, but seeing as how the Hawks are at full strength and the Jazz are missing two starters, I’m not impressed.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:10 pm
I wonder what the +/- numbers llok like for the starters. They were smoking until they were benched and then they came back and took control again. Let’s see who gets time in the 2nd half. I pray that Woody won’t put them out there together agin… collectively, they smell very, very bad.
Bibby makes a driving layup for the first time in 2 months and immediately goes to the bench for the remainder of the half.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:11 pm
Wrong Bench*
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:11 pm
OB, Woody inserted Joe into the game for the last possession of the half… that’s why he called the TO.
Reality
February 22nd, 2010
10:12 pm
Bibby needs to stay on the bench.
terrell
February 22nd, 2010
10:12 pm
Bibby is turning into this year’s version of Speedy Claxton.
terrell
February 22nd, 2010
10:12 pm
Gettin paid for doing absolutely nothing
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:13 pm
Check out these +/- at half-time. Gotta love that bench.
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300222026
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:14 pm
Yeah, in 7 minutes of playing time and with 2 FGAs, Bibby should easily have 20 points by now.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:17 pm
Man don’t even remind me of Speedy Claxton
Reality
February 22nd, 2010
10:17 pm
Either Al or Josh have to be on the floor. Same with JJ and Jamal. We have no send unit – they are not good enough. To get rest we have to mix it up.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:18 pm
so lets just never put the 2nd unit guys in… thats it…
Reality
February 22nd, 2010
10:19 pm
#1 Kansas kicking butt.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:19 pm
we’ll just never play them!
Reality
February 22nd, 2010
10:20 pm
bigdave
Not what I said
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:20 pm
bigdave, never put them in as a unit. Hey, you;re watching the game, do you want to see those guys play another 8 minutes and give up a 16 point swing? They need to be “sprinkled” in with the varsity team.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:20 pm
40+ for every starter… struggling or not… f-it… going 0′for or not
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:22 pm
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300222026
I hope Woody integrates the bench with the starters and doesn’t put them in as a unit anymore. Check out the +/- of the bench vs. starters. That tells the story of the first half.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:22 pm
Marvin get your duck butt up and dunk that
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:24 pm
Sorry about the double post.
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:24 pm
Bibby just happened to be at that spot.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:26 pm
i think the logical way to look at it is Woodson has no concept of team flow… chemistry… who has it going who doesnt… when to go to the bench, when not too… he reminds me of my middle school coach who use to play us starters at a time then put in the bench.. subbing 5 guys at a time… who dont know the rhthm of the game.
Woodson is a victim a lack of creativity. he puts the same groups out.. doesnt stick with contributors or hot hands… basically he doesnt know who plays well with each other cause he never tries it..
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:26 pm
no more J’s for Smoove!
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:26 pm
See WTF is osh doin taking those shots.
JOSH YOUR DUMBA.SS CAN’T SHOOT
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:27 pm
I’m glad ‘Nique said that was “not the ahot Woody wanted” since many seem to think every shot Josh takes is by Woody’s design.
Sautee
February 22nd, 2010
10:27 pm
Josh, stop shooting jumpers and drive the freakin’ ball. Geez.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:27 pm
*rhythm
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:29 pm
I still don’t like that Jumper that Josh took.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:29 pm
basically he might have been playing guys just to say he played them.. i really feel he doesnt know who can give him what…
his substitution patterns are plain funny.
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:31 pm
why didn’t Joe get the 5 second call there? Al got one a few minutes ago and didn’t dribble as long as Joe.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
10:32 pm
Man WTF does JJ think can come from a possession where he holds the ball for 15-20 seconds without getting ANYWHERE.
He’s lucky that whistle bailed him out on that last possession. I can’t stand when they do that BS. What kind of basketball is that. Move the damn ball.
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:32 pm
bigdave,
I agree with you. Woody look very uncomfortable pacing the sidelines while the bench was playing. He couldnt wait to put the starters back in the game…
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:32 pm
big dave, if only Woody would mass substitute according to minutes. at least it would be SOME kind of plan.
Ree Roe
February 22nd, 2010
10:33 pm
The flow of this 3rd Quarter reminds me ALOT of the 3rd Quarter in the Phoenix game on Fri. In that game Woody didn’t substitute in the 2nd half. I doubt Woody subs in this one either…we’ll see if it works or backfires (again).
-REEap what you Roe!!!
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:35 pm
Astro,
are you pulling your hair out b/c Joe missed 2 free throws and bad shot?
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:35 pm
Marvin’s shot looks good tonight… id keep him in late…
there’s Al wanting to go back over his left shoulder to the center of the lane…
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
10:37 pm
Get Crawford on the bench for a couple of minutes.
Jody
February 22nd, 2010
10:37 pm
Instead of going to Horford in the post where he’s being guarded by a power forward, the Hawks would rather play iso-perimeter ball and that last turnover shows you just what happens when you don’t exploit matchups.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
10:38 pm
JT0, JJ, Marvin, Smoove, Horford.
I wanna see that lineup right about now.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:39 pm
Melvin, actually, yes. Poor concentration on Joe’s part at the free throw line. But I’m not concerned with his shot selection. There is NO comparison between the two in that category over the past 4.5 years.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:39 pm
Melvin, any chance Woody was pacing because the bench SUCKED earlier?
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:42 pm
SUB JJ!
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
10:42 pm
Jeff Teague could do what Price is doing if he would get some playing time now. That’s what Sloan has done since the guy was drafted…
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:43 pm
lets go Bibby!
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:43 pm
Oh-oh… they’re about to get 3-happy. I’ve seen this movie before. And it usually doesn’t end well for the Hawks.
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:44 pm
Astro,
You could be right but do you see Jerry Sloan pacing the sidelines????
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:44 pm
awful shot! damn the 2 for 1… get a good shot up..
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:44 pm
Josh should have given the ball UP!!
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
10:45 pm
Play Mo Evans more..
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:45 pm
so sick of WOODSON ALLOWING his bigs to bring the ball up the floor… TEACH them to give it up and use your athleticism to beat your man up court… DEFINE ROLES!!
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:48 pm
there you guy Mike!
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
10:48 pm
No, please, don’t play Mo Evans more.
Don’t let one made 3-point attempt get you thinking that Mo Evans is our answer at the 3-spot.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:49 pm
so i guess Jamal is our pg
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:50 pm
find mins for your vet.. good play Joe.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:51 pm
Josh is just dumb
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:51 pm
Josh another turnover
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:51 pm
Josh again doing too much for 2nd game straight late!!!
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:51 pm
Sit Josh on the bench.
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:51 pm
Woody took Josh out. good.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
10:52 pm
Make me eat my words Mo Evans.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
10:52 pm
I still don’t like him though.
I’m tellin yall, he’s mediocore at best.
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:52 pm
2nd game in a row the Hawks is being outplayed by a rookie…
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
10:53 pm
Wabe, Mo is a better solid option than DuckButt…
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
10:53 pm
The difference in this game, is Utah is running offensive plays.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:54 pm
those are crazy shots.. i mean pull ups off a hand off from 3? Joe doesnt take those…
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:54 pm
Another no name player destroying the hawks
J.J.M.
February 22nd, 2010
10:54 pm
hawks suck man.
Ree Roe
February 22nd, 2010
10:54 pm
SMH…again
-REEcently Roe!
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:55 pm
Was that Bibby’s first 3 this year?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
10:55 pm
Jerry Sloan is really an amazing coach. Every year it seems like he finds a new unheard-of player from somewhere, like Wesley Matthews this year, and turns him into a baller. It’s amazing to see how even without their franchise point guard, every member of the Jazz knows exactly where they should be on every play. Compare that to the Hawks, who have started the same starting 5 all year and still end up stalling on offense, over-isolating, and running into each other. Sloan never winning COY is like if Peyton Manning had never won an MVP.
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:56 pm
Hawks better be looking to sign more than big Z in the upcoming weeks.
Sautee
February 22nd, 2010
10:57 pm
Someone tell me again why Mo and Joe Smith didn’t play at all last night.
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:57 pm
Nique said Hawks need to run their offence? we have and offence?
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
10:57 pm
That was a kick ball, these referees are so terrible…
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:57 pm
letting your center dribble out at the top of the key..
funny how 2 bench players have given major contributions this 2nd half…
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:57 pm
Enter your comments here
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:58 pm
should’ve kept them on the bench.. or maybe just brought them out with the entire 2nd unit…
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
10:59 pm
“bigdave, never put them in as a unit. Hey, you;re watching the game, do you want to see those guys play another 8 minutes and give up a 16 point swing? They need to be “sprinkled” in with the varsity team.”
Co-sign. I’m a proponent of using the bench more, but putting them all in as a unit is not smart in general and especially stupid when you are on the road in a place where you never win. You would think this would be obvious to an NBA coach, but I guess not.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:00 pm
i dont mind that shot Mike, thats your spot… wish you would’ve taken that last night…
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:00 pm
Joe didnt get that one last night late.. but Kyle Korver did…
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
11:01 pm
What a pass Josh!!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
11:01 pm
Beautiful dish by Josh. Yet another pass that maybe 2 other big men in the league can make.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
11:01 pm
damn, how did josh see jamal from that angle.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
11:02 pm
see what happens when you let a struggling player hit the bench and come back in after a short break.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:02 pm
Bibby.. playing a game…
not looking bloody awful on d either…
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
11:02 pm
nice p & r Smoove, and 1.
Jody
February 22nd, 2010
11:02 pm
I can’t understand why they won’t go to Al in the post against Boozer. I don’t think Boozer could guard him.
rob
February 22nd, 2010
11:03 pm
we need Dion Glover
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
11:04 pm
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! @rob
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
11:04 pm
LMAO @ Dion Glover. I remember him lol.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
11:04 pm
There are so many instances where JJ or Jamal or even Bibby are struggling with their game, yet Woody sticks with them, instead of pulling them for a couple of minutes and rotating other guys in. This goes back to what bigdave was saying about the feel for the game. Woody can’t be so blind to see that certain guys need to be pulled at certain moments in the game – NO MATTER WHO THE PLAYER IS. If JT0 isn’t playing well, Woody’s not hesitant one bit to yank him. The same should hold true for all Hawks players.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
11:05 pm
Najeh, passes like that is why Josh is in the game late last night. He’s an excellent passer and you don’t put an excellent passer on the bench in the waning seconds of a game. But you do trust him to make the right decisions.
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
11:06 pm
dunk the dam ball Josh.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
11:06 pm
Josh is taking over this game.
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
11:06 pm
DUNK THE BALL JOE, YOU’RE 6′8!!!
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:07 pm
id keep Josh at the Elbow all day… either u drive or pass my friend…!
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
11:07 pm
Astro,
how you like Josh now….
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
11:07 pm
the guy is a lefty Bib, guard the other side!
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
11:08 pm
WOW, WE’RE RUNNING OFFENSE?
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
11:08 pm
Thanks Nique for the jinx!!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
11:09 pm
Josh with another dime.
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
11:09 pm
Told you I’d take Korver. Why is Jamal checking him?
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
11:09 pm
Perfect execution
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:09 pm
call me crazy but man.. i would put Marvin in for Jamal.. too much of a defensive liability… we have enough offense on the floor…
as i type he gets a steal…
i still think he could hurt us on the boards…
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
11:10 pm
I think you are right Sam. it appears to be some sort of weird offensive sets!
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
11:10 pm
Damn, J.Smith going bizzurk with the dimes.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
11:10 pm
Crawford got lucky. Not saying he should have been called for a foul, but it was not a smart move to take it inside when the Hawks had the lead and there was nobody there to get a rebound if he missed. He should have pulled it back and waited for the big guys to come down the floor to feed them.
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
11:10 pm
Put Mo in the game for Bibby…
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
11:11 pm
Wabe, you’re kidding right? What do you do that people with no experience get the same opportunities to correct themselves as people with experience? In sports alone, Brett Favre gets to make mistakes that a young QB would never get another chance to make. CC Sabathia gets to pitch out of jams that a rookie pitcher would be yanked for in a similar situation.
Heck, I’m guessing that it happens everyday in the normal workplace too.
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
11:12 pm
bigdave,
Your crazy!!!!!!!!!! Jamal should not be on Korver, Joe should. Marvin would have never made that steal.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:12 pm
back breaking shot…
um… isnt there 2 mins left on the clock
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
11:12 pm
Melvin, how you like Woody now? Oh that’s right, they’re a self-managed team.
Yeah, Josh is ballin’.
Reality
February 22nd, 2010
11:13 pm
Nice passing in 2nd half – team ball
James
February 22nd, 2010
11:14 pm
Najeh Davenpoop – No way you pull it out to throw it to the big . You drive hard and get the foul call. now he must make the fts
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:14 pm
no he wouldnt have made the steal, but you act like it was an on ball steal. risky but he got it… … but he rebounds.. and this is a game where they’ve gotten offense from 2nd chance points…
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
11:15 pm
Astro, wasn’t trying to get a rise out of anybody. I was just saying that at moments throughout the course of a game, there are players who aren’t playing well. At those given moments, Woody is forced to a make a decision:
1. Let them play it out.
2. Adjust your rotation
Woody tends to lean on option 1 90% of the time. I’m not saying Woody should bench JJ for Teague when JJ’s struggling to find his game. But, a lot of times, just getting a guy out for a breather and then getting them re-focused and back into the game is an approach worth considering. I don’t think Woody does this nearly enough. Even when we hit lulls, we stick with plan A with roster A and grind-grind-grind until we get a bucket.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:16 pm
was there lead in Bibby’s shoes?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
11:16 pm
F-cking stupid azz shot by Bibby. Thank you Boozer for bailing the Hawks out there.
Sautee
February 22nd, 2010
11:16 pm
Horford’s hustle gets the ball back!
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:17 pm
what are Bob and Nique talking about.. game saver.. its plenty of time left!!! we have to execute a play.. we dont have any!!!
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
11:17 pm
Bibby can’t blow by Ronnie Price..why is he the one creating the offense.
IREPATL
February 22nd, 2010
11:17 pm
haha , im watching the game on nbatv , how about the jazz announcer just said “boy they sure do have a nice offense scheme” looooool cracked me up so bad, they really have no clue how much of the opposite is going on with the hawks offensive game
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
11:17 pm
nothing like a little pine time to adjust a players attitude.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
11:18 pm
“Najeh Davenpoop – No way you pull it out to throw it to the big . You drive hard and get the foul call. ”
Driving hard to the rim is fine. Trying to side-step the guy and coming this close to charging is not.
But whatever. Dude’s got ice in his veins and temporarily shut the crowd up. It all worked out.
IREPATL
February 22nd, 2010
11:18 pm
jooooooooooooe shows his clutch
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:18 pm
damn..
Reality
February 22nd, 2010
11:18 pm
Huge JJ shot
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
11:18 pm
big shot by Joe…
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
11:18 pm
Theres bibby’s terrible defense
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
11:18 pm
WHY IS BIBBY IN THE GAME!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
11:18 pm
Clutch shot by Joe. Very un-clutch foul by Bibby. Even more un-clutch free throw shooting by CJ Miles.
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
11:19 pm
we have got to be the dumbest team ever. Why foul?
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
11:19 pm
good foul bib. after he missed the freebie
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:19 pm
Josh hurt his shoulder..
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
11:20 pm
The rebounding just has to get better. I mean come on. Boozer had no resistance getting to the spot he wanted to be to claim that board. A performance like this on the boards against Cleveland will result in a 50-point loss.
IREPATL
February 22nd, 2010
11:20 pm
its over folks
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:20 pm
that was the longest jump ball in the history of jump balls…
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
11:20 pm
Could they blow a 4 point lead with Crawford going to the line with 24.5 seconds left?
As I type, Crawford misses his first FT.
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
11:20 pm
MARVIN? WHY?
IREPATL
February 22nd, 2010
11:20 pm
bout time woodson shouldve been took bibby out
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
11:22 pm
It’s kind of sad that they play more hip hop music at basketball games in Utah than in Atlanta.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:22 pm
Price has really improved
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
11:23 pm
Melvin, another bad missed free throw in clutch time. I’m tracking them. Poor coaching by Woody not to tell Jamal to hit both free throws.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:23 pm
the in game organ/piano music is…
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:24 pm
good win..
IREPATL
February 22nd, 2010
11:24 pm
@najeh, they actually dont, at philips thay play more hip hop but they mostly only play hip hop instrementals via the organ ,
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
11:24 pm
Now Marvin wants t show he can dribble. LOL
terrell
February 22nd, 2010
11:24 pm
Unbelievable!
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
11:25 pm
Duckbutt is getting $7.5 million a year and can’t even get on the court in the 4th quarter. As I type he misses a FT. You sorry bum!!
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
11:25 pm
Yes, I will take this win.
IREPATL
February 22nd, 2010
11:25 pm
bout time, this shouldve been the outcome last night smh
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
11:25 pm
Nice to see them pull out a split on this west coast trip after playing like sh-t for much of it. Should have been 3-1, but whatever. Nice job pulling it out at the end.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
11:25 pm
Ok thankfully we won. 1st things 1st. Zaza has got to go. He is a bum
Sautee
February 22nd, 2010
11:25 pm
Congratulations to Woody and the Hawks for turning things around.
JB
February 22nd, 2010
11:25 pm
Price has been pretty good since last year. I was hoping Sund would pick him up
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:26 pm
damn 1st win since 2nd grade
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
11:26 pm
How does Utah find ways to develop their young talent and win 16 of 19?
JB
February 22nd, 2010
11:26 pm
Needed a 100 point game to shake some cobwebs loose
Ree Roe
February 22nd, 2010
11:26 pm
Great win on the road after soooo much hand wringing after the debacle in Golden State. Hawks showed real heart tonight. First win in Utah in 15 yrs. Joe, Josh & Jamal all played great tonight.
-REEpeal it for Roe!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
11:27 pm
“they actually dont, at philips thay play more hip hop but they mostly only play hip hop instrementals via the organ”
I know. I’m sick of the damn organ. LeBron is up in Cleveland rapping along with Eminem while the only real song the Hawks fans get is “Apache” during the Sprite Jam Cam.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:27 pm
the organ is jamming…
Joe and Jamal start dribbling to it…
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
11:29 pm
A win that required 4th quarter execution to make it happen. I’m thrilled for the self-managed Hawks. I also like the adjustment they made, to integrate the bench with the starters after half-time. Well done.
Reality
February 22nd, 2010
11:29 pm
Mo and Marvin go 8-11. Where has that been. WTG
IREPATL
February 22nd, 2010
11:30 pm
looooooooooool yea i feel u @najeh
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:30 pm
glad to see them go to Joe late for the big shots… he was cash money.. on the 3 in the corner, and on the later drifter..
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
11:30 pm
I will take the win, but we basically struggled against the Jazz second team. Any team with more than one NBDL player gives us problems. No Derron Williams, No A 47, no Okur. But I’ll take it. Glad nobody took me up on the Marvin Williams bet.
Mel
February 22nd, 2010
11:31 pm
yeah i like that organ.. he can play lol… HUGE win.. should’ve been a 4-0 trip but hey, I’ll take this win.
Reality
February 22nd, 2010
11:32 pm
Astro Joe,
I also like the adjustment they made, to integrate the bench with the starters after half-time. Well done.
I agree Woody needs to do it like that all the time. Helps hide ZaZa and Joe Smith.
The Bird and Indian (Reggie)
February 22nd, 2010
11:35 pm
The blog is calm tonight. I like this. It just shows what one win can do to a fan base. Great win, Hawks. It helped that D-Will was out.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
11:40 pm
Some of y’all can petition the league not to count our wins when they come against injured teams. Just make sure that you request the same of the Magic, Cavs and Celtics… or do you think that they never play teams with injured players?
IREPATL
February 22nd, 2010
11:45 pm
@astro haters man, just haters, refuse to show the hawks any type of love, whether beating a fully healthy team or a half hurt one, but i cant say i blame tthem tho i mean last night we kno what happened vs the hurt and dleauge warriors so…
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
11:51 pm
IREPATL, every team has a few awful losses every season. Some worse than others… but no need to lose faith. If these Hawks have taught us anything over the pass few years, it’s that you should never get too high or too low with them. Because they will make you sea-sick if you take that ride.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
11:55 pm
Melvin where you at with the nightly TMac update?
IREPATL
February 22nd, 2010
11:56 pm
exactly, same with players, we need not to jump to conclusions with players (as i have 4rm time to time) becuase they will do the same thing, take you for a ride. but as we saw tonight, slumps n droughts that players have not gon last forever (in the case of bibbs n marv) and when they do end, we get what happened tonight…a “collective win”
IREPATL
February 22nd, 2010
11:57 pm
loved the way the ball was moved tonight, lets see if they can keep it up
northcyde
February 23rd, 2010
1:16 am
So JJ has ANOTHER monster game on the road, and he still can’t get a lot of love from this fickle fan base? Only 2 or 3 guys on here give JJ his proper respect as the scoring star on this team.
If Crawford were to drop 28 – 6 – 6, people would be hyping him up as the guy who the Hawks should build their future around.
LOL . . . but JJ is a ball hog everytime he shoots.