Salt Lake City– After the Hawks’ collapse at Golden State last night, Woody said he needs to diversity the offense late in games because the isolation game has made the Hawks too stagnant.
After watching the video, he backed off from that stance a bit.
“We’re good when we are moving the ball,” he said. “But we’ve won a lot of games. I am not going to take them out of their domain. We’ve won a lot of games early with Joe and Jamal making plays off the dribble, either for themselves or for other people. When it works, it looks good. When it don’t work everybody thinks you are standing around and not getting anything accomplished.”
To Woody, the stagnant offense was kind of besides the point to the Hawks blowing that 18-point lead.
“That didn’t beat us last night,” he said. “We give up 35 points in a quarter when we’ve held this team to (73) points in three quarters. That’s a problem. We had breakdowns defensively on transition defense. Our court balance coming back, it was awful. I bet we gave up eight points from guys getting behind us and not picking up the ball.”
Is that a lack of focus?
“(It’s) that, it’s effort,” he said. “We had two guys that played really significant minutes last night. The bench played well; the bench did adequate last night. It’s mainly the guys that have carried us to this point that’s getting us beat in the last two games. Go back to the Phoenix game (and) we had our best players on floor against their second unit and couldn’t get it done. It’s not a need to panic or anything like that. It’s things that are correctable. As a coach I’ve got to help them get over the hump.”
If the main guys aren’t getting it done, would he look at changing up his rotation?
“My rotations are based on who is giving me what on the floor,” he said. “When they made their run, I had the ‘rook (Teague) and Zaza in the game. And then I came back with our (main) guys, which is the right thing to do. It’s our guys that’s got to carry it home. They can’t have the slippage they had and let games like that get away.”
So Woody thinks it’s on him to get them over the hump, what can he do?
“I don’t like blaming players,” he said. “I don’t single out players. I feel like I’m in charge as the coach, and I’ve been around long enough that I can take the heat. In taking the heat, I’ve just got to help them. I’ve got to get them through those stretches where things are not going well for them. I’ve got to get them to relax and doing the things I know we can do to win games.”
– Question: What plays would you like to see more of from the Hawks? I don’t say that to mean they shouldn’t try something else, just interested in what you think it should be.
The Bibby/Josh pick-and-roll seems to work a high percentage of the time as long as the result is a pass to Smoove rolling to the basket. Because right now Bibby isn’t much of a threat to turn the corner and he’s not making shots, either. So what you see lately is both defenders cheating to prevent Josh from getting the pass and instead taking their chances with Bibby driving or shooting. Bibby sometimes can thread the pass through anyway but so far he’s not making defenders pay for dropping off of him.
J.J. can turn the corner and he can make shots, so he draws a lot of attention from defenders. But he would have to be decisive coming off screens. J.J. is partial to what another hack calls the “slow-drip” game: holding the ball on one side of the floor, methodically sizing up his defender, deliberately working his way to the rim and shooting a pull-up or that runner. He’s dang good at that but if the goal is to create more movement then slow-drip isn’t going to get it done.
Pick-and-pops with Horford are an option. Most fives have to back off of him because he’s quick enough to go around them, so he usually has room to get off his shot. Al is shooting 44 percent on jumpers and a little more than half his attempts come from outside the paint, according to 82games.com.
Many of you are calling for more burn for Teague and that’s a reasonable view. He can defend on the ball and the Hawks need that. But could he run the pick-and-roll effectively? Woody praised Stephen Curry for already knowing how to play the pick-and-roll game coming out of college, something he says isn’t all that common. Teague says he ran a bit of pick-and-roll at Wake Forest but that the Demon Deacons mostly ran dribble drive motion under coach Dino Gaudio.
I know that’s not a full list of OOTI (Options Other Than Iso) but just wanted to get a discussion started.
– My Iso-Joe count in the fourth quarter of eight games: 15 possessions, 16 points, one turnover, three missed shots by teammates, and three offensive rebounds of his misses.
– Suddenly the Hawks not only have to worry about the Magic pulling away from them but they also have to watch the Raptors creeping up from behind. Toronto seems to be playing with the kind of urgency the Hawks lack lately. Jarrett Jack scored seven straight points in the fourth quarter last night to help the Raptors overcome a nine-point deficit and beat the Wizards:
“We know how desperately we need these wins coming down the stretch, making this final push at the end of the season, especially the ones at home,” Jack said. “They’re very crucial, they’re very vital to how things are going to play out in the standings. We can’t let these opportunities slip through our fingers.”
– Will you forgive and forget if the Hawks win at the Jazz tonight for the first time since ‘Nique scored 43 on on Feb. 13, 1993? The Jazz have won 17 of 19, after all, and a W gives the Hawks a split on the four-game trip. Would a big victory cancel out two bad losses?
– After the Jazz traded Ronnie Brewer, All-Star guard Deron Williams complained ownership isn’t really shooting for a title but is interested only in staying good enough to make money. Shoot, he should take a look around the league lately. He’s got it pretty good here.
– Williams was a late scratch with a thigh bruise and Andrei Kirilenko is out with back spasms. I want to say the Hawks caught a break with those guys out, but I was at the game in Oakland last night, so I can’t.
– Talk amongst yourselves, Hawks fans.
MC
279 comments Add your comment
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:44 pm
Josh should have given the ball UP!!
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
10:45 pm
Play Mo Evans more..
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:45 pm
so sick of WOODSON ALLOWING his bigs to bring the ball up the floor… TEACH them to give it up and use your athleticism to beat your man up court… DEFINE ROLES!!
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:48 pm
there you guy Mike!
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
10:48 pm
No, please, don’t play Mo Evans more.
Don’t let one made 3-point attempt get you thinking that Mo Evans is our answer at the 3-spot.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:49 pm
so i guess Jamal is our pg
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:50 pm
find mins for your vet.. good play Joe.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:51 pm
Josh is just dumb
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:51 pm
Josh another turnover
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:51 pm
Josh again doing too much for 2nd game straight late!!!
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:51 pm
Sit Josh on the bench.
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:51 pm
Woody took Josh out. good.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
10:52 pm
Make me eat my words Mo Evans.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
10:52 pm
I still don’t like him though.
I’m tellin yall, he’s mediocore at best.
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:52 pm
2nd game in a row the Hawks is being outplayed by a rookie…
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
10:53 pm
Wabe, Mo is a better solid option than DuckButt…
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
10:53 pm
The difference in this game, is Utah is running offensive plays.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:54 pm
those are crazy shots.. i mean pull ups off a hand off from 3? Joe doesnt take those…
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:54 pm
Another no name player destroying the hawks
J.J.M.
February 22nd, 2010
10:54 pm
hawks suck man.
Ree Roe
February 22nd, 2010
10:54 pm
SMH…again
-REEcently Roe!
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:55 pm
Was that Bibby’s first 3 this year?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
10:55 pm
Jerry Sloan is really an amazing coach. Every year it seems like he finds a new unheard-of player from somewhere, like Wesley Matthews this year, and turns him into a baller. It’s amazing to see how even without their franchise point guard, every member of the Jazz knows exactly where they should be on every play. Compare that to the Hawks, who have started the same starting 5 all year and still end up stalling on offense, over-isolating, and running into each other. Sloan never winning COY is like if Peyton Manning had never won an MVP.
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:56 pm
Hawks better be looking to sign more than big Z in the upcoming weeks.
Sautee
February 22nd, 2010
10:57 pm
Someone tell me again why Mo and Joe Smith didn’t play at all last night.
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:57 pm
Nique said Hawks need to run their offence? we have and offence?
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
10:57 pm
That was a kick ball, these referees are so terrible…
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:57 pm
letting your center dribble out at the top of the key..
funny how 2 bench players have given major contributions this 2nd half…
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:57 pm
Enter your comments here
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:58 pm
should’ve kept them on the bench.. or maybe just brought them out with the entire 2nd unit…
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
10:59 pm
“bigdave, never put them in as a unit. Hey, you;re watching the game, do you want to see those guys play another 8 minutes and give up a 16 point swing? They need to be “sprinkled” in with the varsity team.”
Co-sign. I’m a proponent of using the bench more, but putting them all in as a unit is not smart in general and especially stupid when you are on the road in a place where you never win. You would think this would be obvious to an NBA coach, but I guess not.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:00 pm
i dont mind that shot Mike, thats your spot… wish you would’ve taken that last night…
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:00 pm
Joe didnt get that one last night late.. but Kyle Korver did…
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
11:01 pm
What a pass Josh!!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
11:01 pm
Beautiful dish by Josh. Yet another pass that maybe 2 other big men in the league can make.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
11:01 pm
damn, how did josh see jamal from that angle.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
11:02 pm
see what happens when you let a struggling player hit the bench and come back in after a short break.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:02 pm
Bibby.. playing a game…
not looking bloody awful on d either…
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
11:02 pm
nice p & r Smoove, and 1.
Jody
February 22nd, 2010
11:02 pm
I can’t understand why they won’t go to Al in the post against Boozer. I don’t think Boozer could guard him.
rob
February 22nd, 2010
11:03 pm
we need Dion Glover
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
11:04 pm
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! @rob
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
11:04 pm
LMAO @ Dion Glover. I remember him lol.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
11:04 pm
There are so many instances where JJ or Jamal or even Bibby are struggling with their game, yet Woody sticks with them, instead of pulling them for a couple of minutes and rotating other guys in. This goes back to what bigdave was saying about the feel for the game. Woody can’t be so blind to see that certain guys need to be pulled at certain moments in the game – NO MATTER WHO THE PLAYER IS. If JT0 isn’t playing well, Woody’s not hesitant one bit to yank him. The same should hold true for all Hawks players.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
11:05 pm
Najeh, passes like that is why Josh is in the game late last night. He’s an excellent passer and you don’t put an excellent passer on the bench in the waning seconds of a game. But you do trust him to make the right decisions.
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
11:06 pm
dunk the dam ball Josh.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
11:06 pm
Josh is taking over this game.
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
11:06 pm
DUNK THE BALL JOE, YOU’RE 6′8!!!
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
11:07 pm
id keep Josh at the Elbow all day… either u drive or pass my friend…!
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
11:07 pm
Astro,
how you like Josh now….