Salt Lake City– After the Hawks’ collapse at Golden State last night, Woody said he needs to diversity the offense late in games because the isolation game has made the Hawks too stagnant.
After watching the video, he backed off from that stance a bit.
“We’re good when we are moving the ball,” he said. “But we’ve won a lot of games. I am not going to take them out of their domain. We’ve won a lot of games early with Joe and Jamal making plays off the dribble, either for themselves or for other people. When it works, it looks good. When it don’t work everybody thinks you are standing around and not getting anything accomplished.”
To Woody, the stagnant offense was kind of besides the point to the Hawks blowing that 18-point lead.
“That didn’t beat us last night,” he said. “We give up 35 points in a quarter when we’ve held this team to (73) points in three quarters. That’s a problem. We had breakdowns defensively on transition defense. Our court balance coming back, it was awful. I bet we gave up eight points from guys getting behind us and not picking up the ball.”
Is that a lack of focus?
“(It’s) that, it’s effort,” he said. “We had two guys that played really significant minutes last night. The bench played well; the bench did adequate last night. It’s mainly the guys that have carried us to this point that’s getting us beat in the last two games. Go back to the Phoenix game (and) we had our best players on floor against their second unit and couldn’t get it done. It’s not a need to panic or anything like that. It’s things that are correctable. As a coach I’ve got to help them get over the hump.”
If the main guys aren’t getting it done, would he look at changing up his rotation?
“My rotations are based on who is giving me what on the floor,” he said. “When they made their run, I had the ‘rook (Teague) and Zaza in the game. And then I came back with our (main) guys, which is the right thing to do. It’s our guys that’s got to carry it home. They can’t have the slippage they had and let games like that get away.”
So Woody thinks it’s on him to get them over the hump, what can he do?
“I don’t like blaming players,” he said. “I don’t single out players. I feel like I’m in charge as the coach, and I’ve been around long enough that I can take the heat. In taking the heat, I’ve just got to help them. I’ve got to get them through those stretches where things are not going well for them. I’ve got to get them to relax and doing the things I know we can do to win games.”
– Question: What plays would you like to see more of from the Hawks? I don’t say that to mean they shouldn’t try something else, just interested in what you think it should be.
The Bibby/Josh pick-and-roll seems to work a high percentage of the time as long as the result is a pass to Smoove rolling to the basket. Because right now Bibby isn’t much of a threat to turn the corner and he’s not making shots, either. So what you see lately is both defenders cheating to prevent Josh from getting the pass and instead taking their chances with Bibby driving or shooting. Bibby sometimes can thread the pass through anyway but so far he’s not making defenders pay for dropping off of him.
J.J. can turn the corner and he can make shots, so he draws a lot of attention from defenders. But he would have to be decisive coming off screens. J.J. is partial to what another hack calls the “slow-drip” game: holding the ball on one side of the floor, methodically sizing up his defender, deliberately working his way to the rim and shooting a pull-up or that runner. He’s dang good at that but if the goal is to create more movement then slow-drip isn’t going to get it done.
Pick-and-pops with Horford are an option. Most fives have to back off of him because he’s quick enough to go around them, so he usually has room to get off his shot. Al is shooting 44 percent on jumpers and a little more than half his attempts come from outside the paint, according to 82games.com.
Many of you are calling for more burn for Teague and that’s a reasonable view. He can defend on the ball and the Hawks need that. But could he run the pick-and-roll effectively? Woody praised Stephen Curry for already knowing how to play the pick-and-roll game coming out of college, something he says isn’t all that common. Teague says he ran a bit of pick-and-roll at Wake Forest but that the Demon Deacons mostly ran dribble drive motion under coach Dino Gaudio.
I know that’s not a full list of OOTI (Options Other Than Iso) but just wanted to get a discussion started.
– My Iso-Joe count in the fourth quarter of eight games: 15 possessions, 16 points, one turnover, three missed shots by teammates, and three offensive rebounds of his misses.
– Suddenly the Hawks not only have to worry about the Magic pulling away from them but they also have to watch the Raptors creeping up from behind. Toronto seems to be playing with the kind of urgency the Hawks lack lately. Jarrett Jack scored seven straight points in the fourth quarter last night to help the Raptors overcome a nine-point deficit and beat the Wizards:
“We know how desperately we need these wins coming down the stretch, making this final push at the end of the season, especially the ones at home,” Jack said. “They’re very crucial, they’re very vital to how things are going to play out in the standings. We can’t let these opportunities slip through our fingers.”
– Will you forgive and forget if the Hawks win at the Jazz tonight for the first time since ‘Nique scored 43 on on Feb. 13, 1993? The Jazz have won 17 of 19, after all, and a W gives the Hawks a split on the four-game trip. Would a big victory cancel out two bad losses?
– After the Jazz traded Ronnie Brewer, All-Star guard Deron Williams complained ownership isn’t really shooting for a title but is interested only in staying good enough to make money. Shoot, he should take a look around the league lately. He’s got it pretty good here.
– Williams was a late scratch with a thigh bruise and Andrei Kirilenko is out with back spasms. I want to say the Hawks caught a break with those guys out, but I was at the game in Oakland last night, so I can’t.
– Talk amongst yourselves, Hawks fans.
MC
279 comments Add your comment
O'Brien
February 22nd, 2010
10:08 pm
Why does Woody call a time out with such little time left at the end of the quarter when the play that we run does not need a time out to run?
Good job by the Hawks starters to get the lead back.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:08 pm
I don’t know what made me think of this just know but I remember earlier in the season in one game the hawks called a timeout and Marvin walked to the wrtong brnch LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
Damn Marvin is str8 comedy
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:09 pm
wassup wit RandMo? not on the bench tonite?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
10:09 pm
Nice to see the Hawks leading, but seeing as how the Hawks are at full strength and the Jazz are missing two starters, I’m not impressed.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:10 pm
I wonder what the +/- numbers llok like for the starters. They were smoking until they were benched and then they came back and took control again. Let’s see who gets time in the 2nd half. I pray that Woody won’t put them out there together agin… collectively, they smell very, very bad.
Bibby makes a driving layup for the first time in 2 months and immediately goes to the bench for the remainder of the half.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:11 pm
Wrong Bench*
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:11 pm
OB, Woody inserted Joe into the game for the last possession of the half… that’s why he called the TO.
Reality
February 22nd, 2010
10:12 pm
Bibby needs to stay on the bench.
terrell
February 22nd, 2010
10:12 pm
Bibby is turning into this year’s version of Speedy Claxton.
terrell
February 22nd, 2010
10:12 pm
Gettin paid for doing absolutely nothing
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:13 pm
Check out these +/- at half-time. Gotta love that bench.
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300222026
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:14 pm
Yeah, in 7 minutes of playing time and with 2 FGAs, Bibby should easily have 20 points by now.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:17 pm
Man don’t even remind me of Speedy Claxton
Reality
February 22nd, 2010
10:17 pm
Either Al or Josh have to be on the floor. Same with JJ and Jamal. We have no send unit – they are not good enough. To get rest we have to mix it up.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:18 pm
so lets just never put the 2nd unit guys in… thats it…
Reality
February 22nd, 2010
10:19 pm
#1 Kansas kicking butt.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:19 pm
we’ll just never play them!
Reality
February 22nd, 2010
10:20 pm
bigdave
Not what I said
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:20 pm
bigdave, never put them in as a unit. Hey, you;re watching the game, do you want to see those guys play another 8 minutes and give up a 16 point swing? They need to be “sprinkled” in with the varsity team.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:20 pm
40+ for every starter… struggling or not… f-it… going 0′for or not
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:22 pm
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300222026
I hope Woody integrates the bench with the starters and doesn’t put them in as a unit anymore. Check out the +/- of the bench vs. starters. That tells the story of the first half.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:22 pm
Marvin get your duck butt up and dunk that
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:24 pm
Sorry about the double post.
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:24 pm
Bibby just happened to be at that spot.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:26 pm
i think the logical way to look at it is Woodson has no concept of team flow… chemistry… who has it going who doesnt… when to go to the bench, when not too… he reminds me of my middle school coach who use to play us starters at a time then put in the bench.. subbing 5 guys at a time… who dont know the rhthm of the game.
Woodson is a victim a lack of creativity. he puts the same groups out.. doesnt stick with contributors or hot hands… basically he doesnt know who plays well with each other cause he never tries it..
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:26 pm
no more J’s for Smoove!
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:26 pm
See WTF is osh doin taking those shots.
JOSH YOUR DUMBA.SS CAN’T SHOOT
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:27 pm
I’m glad ‘Nique said that was “not the ahot Woody wanted” since many seem to think every shot Josh takes is by Woody’s design.
Sautee
February 22nd, 2010
10:27 pm
Josh, stop shooting jumpers and drive the freakin’ ball. Geez.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:27 pm
*rhythm
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
10:29 pm
I still don’t like that Jumper that Josh took.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:29 pm
basically he might have been playing guys just to say he played them.. i really feel he doesnt know who can give him what…
his substitution patterns are plain funny.
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:31 pm
why didn’t Joe get the 5 second call there? Al got one a few minutes ago and didn’t dribble as long as Joe.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
10:32 pm
Man WTF does JJ think can come from a possession where he holds the ball for 15-20 seconds without getting ANYWHERE.
He’s lucky that whistle bailed him out on that last possession. I can’t stand when they do that BS. What kind of basketball is that. Move the damn ball.
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:32 pm
bigdave,
I agree with you. Woody look very uncomfortable pacing the sidelines while the bench was playing. He couldnt wait to put the starters back in the game…
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
10:32 pm
big dave, if only Woody would mass substitute according to minutes. at least it would be SOME kind of plan.
Ree Roe
February 22nd, 2010
10:33 pm
The flow of this 3rd Quarter reminds me ALOT of the 3rd Quarter in the Phoenix game on Fri. In that game Woody didn’t substitute in the 2nd half. I doubt Woody subs in this one either…we’ll see if it works or backfires (again).
-REEap what you Roe!!!
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:35 pm
Astro,
are you pulling your hair out b/c Joe missed 2 free throws and bad shot?
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:35 pm
Marvin’s shot looks good tonight… id keep him in late…
there’s Al wanting to go back over his left shoulder to the center of the lane…
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
10:37 pm
Get Crawford on the bench for a couple of minutes.
Jody
February 22nd, 2010
10:37 pm
Instead of going to Horford in the post where he’s being guarded by a power forward, the Hawks would rather play iso-perimeter ball and that last turnover shows you just what happens when you don’t exploit matchups.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
10:38 pm
JT0, JJ, Marvin, Smoove, Horford.
I wanna see that lineup right about now.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:39 pm
Melvin, actually, yes. Poor concentration on Joe’s part at the free throw line. But I’m not concerned with his shot selection. There is NO comparison between the two in that category over the past 4.5 years.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:39 pm
Melvin, any chance Woody was pacing because the bench SUCKED earlier?
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:42 pm
SUB JJ!
Sam from da Swats
February 22nd, 2010
10:42 pm
Jeff Teague could do what Price is doing if he would get some playing time now. That’s what Sloan has done since the guy was drafted…
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:43 pm
lets go Bibby!
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
10:43 pm
Oh-oh… they’re about to get 3-happy. I’ve seen this movie before. And it usually doesn’t end well for the Hawks.
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:44 pm
Astro,
You could be right but do you see Jerry Sloan pacing the sidelines????
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:44 pm
awful shot! damn the 2 for 1… get a good shot up..