Salt Lake City– After the Hawks’ collapse at Golden State last night, Woody said he needs to diversity the offense late in games because the isolation game has made the Hawks too stagnant.
After watching the video, he backed off from that stance a bit.
“We’re good when we are moving the ball,” he said. “But we’ve won a lot of games. I am not going to take them out of their domain. We’ve won a lot of games early with Joe and Jamal making plays off the dribble, either for themselves or for other people. When it works, it looks good. When it don’t work everybody thinks you are standing around and not getting anything accomplished.”
To Woody, the stagnant offense was kind of besides the point to the Hawks blowing that 18-point lead.
“That didn’t beat us last night,” he said. “We give up 35 points in a quarter when we’ve held this team to (73) points in three quarters. That’s a problem. We had breakdowns defensively on transition defense. Our court balance coming back, it was awful. I bet we gave up eight points from guys getting behind us and not picking up the ball.”
Is that a lack of focus?
“(It’s) that, it’s effort,” he said. “We had two guys that played really significant minutes last night. The bench played well; the bench did adequate last night. It’s mainly the guys that have carried us to this point that’s getting us beat in the last two games. Go back to the Phoenix game (and) we had our best players on floor against their second unit and couldn’t get it done. It’s not a need to panic or anything like that. It’s things that are correctable. As a coach I’ve got to help them get over the hump.”
If the main guys aren’t getting it done, would he look at changing up his rotation?
“My rotations are based on who is giving me what on the floor,” he said. “When they made their run, I had the ‘rook (Teague) and Zaza in the game. And then I came back with our (main) guys, which is the right thing to do. It’s our guys that’s got to carry it home. They can’t have the slippage they had and let games like that get away.”
So Woody thinks it’s on him to get them over the hump, what can he do?
“I don’t like blaming players,” he said. “I don’t single out players. I feel like I’m in charge as the coach, and I’ve been around long enough that I can take the heat. In taking the heat, I’ve just got to help them. I’ve got to get them through those stretches where things are not going well for them. I’ve got to get them to relax and doing the things I know we can do to win games.”
– Question: What plays would you like to see more of from the Hawks? I don’t say that to mean they shouldn’t try something else, just interested in what you think it should be.
The Bibby/Josh pick-and-roll seems to work a high percentage of the time as long as the result is a pass to Smoove rolling to the basket. Because right now Bibby isn’t much of a threat to turn the corner and he’s not making shots, either. So what you see lately is both defenders cheating to prevent Josh from getting the pass and instead taking their chances with Bibby driving or shooting. Bibby sometimes can thread the pass through anyway but so far he’s not making defenders pay for dropping off of him.
J.J. can turn the corner and he can make shots, so he draws a lot of attention from defenders. But he would have to be decisive coming off screens. J.J. is partial to what another hack calls the “slow-drip” game: holding the ball on one side of the floor, methodically sizing up his defender, deliberately working his way to the rim and shooting a pull-up or that runner. He’s dang good at that but if the goal is to create more movement then slow-drip isn’t going to get it done.
Pick-and-pops with Horford are an option. Most fives have to back off of him because he’s quick enough to go around them, so he usually has room to get off his shot. Al is shooting 44 percent on jumpers and a little more than half his attempts come from outside the paint, according to 82games.com.
Many of you are calling for more burn for Teague and that’s a reasonable view. He can defend on the ball and the Hawks need that. But could he run the pick-and-roll effectively? Woody praised Stephen Curry for already knowing how to play the pick-and-roll game coming out of college, something he says isn’t all that common. Teague says he ran a bit of pick-and-roll at Wake Forest but that the Demon Deacons mostly ran dribble drive motion under coach Dino Gaudio.
I know that’s not a full list of OOTI (Options Other Than Iso) but just wanted to get a discussion started.
– My Iso-Joe count in the fourth quarter of eight games: 15 possessions, 16 points, one turnover, three missed shots by teammates, and three offensive rebounds of his misses.
– Suddenly the Hawks not only have to worry about the Magic pulling away from them but they also have to watch the Raptors creeping up from behind. Toronto seems to be playing with the kind of urgency the Hawks lack lately. Jarrett Jack scored seven straight points in the fourth quarter last night to help the Raptors overcome a nine-point deficit and beat the Wizards:
“We know how desperately we need these wins coming down the stretch, making this final push at the end of the season, especially the ones at home,” Jack said. “They’re very crucial, they’re very vital to how things are going to play out in the standings. We can’t let these opportunities slip through our fingers.”
– Will you forgive and forget if the Hawks win at the Jazz tonight for the first time since ‘Nique scored 43 on on Feb. 13, 1993? The Jazz have won 17 of 19, after all, and a W gives the Hawks a split on the four-game trip. Would a big victory cancel out two bad losses?
– After the Jazz traded Ronnie Brewer, All-Star guard Deron Williams complained ownership isn’t really shooting for a title but is interested only in staying good enough to make money. Shoot, he should take a look around the league lately. He’s got it pretty good here.
– Williams was a late scratch with a thigh bruise and Andrei Kirilenko is out with back spasms. I want to say the Hawks caught a break with those guys out, but I was at the game in Oakland last night, so I can’t.
– Talk amongst yourselves, Hawks fans.
MC
279 comments Add your comment
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
9:43 pm
I hope Woody plays the bench again in the second half. They look GGRREEAATTTTT!
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
9:44 pm
Stop switching and ply man to man Woody.
Enough Is ENOUGH
February 22nd, 2010
9:44 pm
man this is embarrassing, only 2 pts in the qtr thus far
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:44 pm
no lie… Randolph probably could contribute more than Za Za
JustChillFans
February 22nd, 2010
9:44 pm
OMG i swear zaza is the worst back-up C in the history. And every single person on the blog was like “bring zaza back, we need him” hhahahahhahahaahha. he doesnt even play defense. can he even jump off the ground?
J.J.M.
February 22nd, 2010
9:44 pm
smh this team is done…should have made a trade
rob
February 22nd, 2010
9:44 pm
ZAZA sucks, and we just stand around and look at each other, no movement and or energy = double digit loss and Toronto creeping up and takin that seed from us
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:44 pm
at least be able to catch and finish.. or jump?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:45 pm
16-2 Jazz in this quarter.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
9:45 pm
More of these guys and less of Horford, Josh and Joe please.
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
9:46 pm
BONE,
“zaza is like a taller bibby” LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. Or Marvin.
Sautee
February 22nd, 2010
9:46 pm
Teague is trying WAY too hard. He needs to back it off just a notch.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:46 pm
58% shooting for the Jazz.
Again I ask — if Woody doesn’t care about offense, and the defense sucks, is Woody there for decoration?
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
9:46 pm
Jazz on a 31-9 run…My goodness…. Yep, this team couldnt use another scorer…
rob
February 22nd, 2010
9:47 pm
i dont even think we can get out the first round, reminds me of the hawks team that got bounced in the playoffs by Charlotte in the day. Everyone said hey can we beat Jordan and the bulls in the 2nd round? We didnt even get a chance to try, first round and out this year. we need to worry about at least getting to the secound round and keep this 4th seed, or else
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:47 pm
Joe can’t wait to leave this team
AND ANOTHER DAY ANOTHER PG TEARIN US UP
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:48 pm
At the very least, I think it’s time for Joe Smith to leapfrog Zaza in the bench rotation.
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
9:48 pm
I do remember us having a debate about making a play for Marcin Gortat and some members of the blog suggested we were better off with Zaza.
That doesn’t seem to be the case, at least not at the moment.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:49 pm
HAWKS ARE PATHETIC
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:50 pm
Marvin DESTROYED LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 22nd, 2010
9:50 pm
lol@Marvin takin it up like a bish
rob
February 22nd, 2010
9:50 pm
Fesenko! we need him
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
9:50 pm
MARVIN??????????????
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:51 pm
300 + big boy is a load…
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:51 pm
8 offensive boards ALREADY for the Jazz is the difference in this game right now.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:51 pm
the hawks are the only team in the NBA that makes scrubs look like superstars
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 22nd, 2010
9:54 pm
I see the same thing again…..The Hawks are being outhustled…whats up with that???? Woodson must really have this team depressed…then again, I would be traumatically effected too if i had to look at that eyebrowless dome piece of his everyday in practice for weeks
GIVE WOODSON THE ROPE!!!
Wabe
February 22nd, 2010
9:54 pm
How many easy buckets have the Hawks given up to this point…
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:54 pm
wasnt a great reb. Jamal just doesnt box out..
jOEbJOE
February 22nd, 2010
9:54 pm
all we have to do is be close at half time, no need to panic yet. I think Woody needs to give the bench steady minutes. We don’t have a chance to win the division. the only chance in the playoffs is is to get the first and second teams both playing at their highest levels and they need steady minutes to do that.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
9:54 pm
Another offensive board, 2 more second chance points.
Giving up offensive boards really just demonstrates a lack of effort, not a lack of skill or planning.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:55 pm
Nique is getting tired of Josh LOL
He said Josh needs to give the ball up to the PG and he will give it back. The way he said it was like he was annoyed vy Josh. I am too.
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
9:55 pm
Hawks has given up too many offensive rebounds for the Jazz…
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2010
9:56 pm
Melvin
“Jazz on a 31-9 run…My goodness…. Yep, this team couldnt use another scorer…”
But I was crazy for wanting Stephen Jackson. Hell I’d take Kyle Korver. He would knock down that open 3 all day.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:56 pm
i still feel that the 2nd unit must find minutes. they look horrible today.. but usually thats how 2nd units look on the road. especially after havent played in days…
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 22nd, 2010
9:56 pm
Jazz scrub players are crashing the O boards while the Hawks stand around and watch. This is a team full of players who are always waitin on the next man to do something.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:57 pm
Nique is getting tired of Josh LOL
He said Josh needs to give the ball up to the PG and he will give it back. The way he said it was like he was annoyed vy Josh. I am too.
.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
9:58 pm
Nique is getting tired of Josh LOL
He said Josh needs to give the ball up to the PG and he will give it back. The way he said it was like he was annoyed by Josh. I am too.
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
9:58 pm
complain and complain about Joe… most of his looks are in high % areas… he’s allowed to force a few…
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 22nd, 2010
9:59 pm
Just look at Marvin Gay Williams….He doesnt even look like a winner.
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:00 pm
Good decision by Woody to rest Joe for the last 2mins of the half. He’s working hard out there….
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 22nd, 2010
10:01 pm
plz no more folds
bigdave
February 22nd, 2010
10:01 pm
like that he’s getting to the line… but Al has to work on drop stepping a finishing left or to over his right shoulder… he’s too predictable..
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
10:02 pm
Yeah, that was a bad play by Josh. Ideally he would leave the point guard duties to the guards, but if he insists on bringing it up, he should at least go up and either finish or get fouled when he gets in the paint. Passing it from that position is not a good plan unless there’s a shooter wide open.
Then again, here’s Josh getting the board and passing it up the court perfectly to allow Horford to draw a foul.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
10:02 pm
Uh oh… Josh makes a jumper…
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2010
10:03 pm
Crawford usually draws a foul on those pull-up jumpers with people hanging all over him…
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:03 pm
Josh got foul at least 3 times on that play…
terrell
February 22nd, 2010
10:04 pm
Woody drawing up a play. lol!
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 22nd, 2010
10:04 pm
that last possession was the most hustle i’ve saw out of this bunch in a min, they were leavin it all on the floor
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
10:05 pm
Nice to see the Hawks comeback to take a 3pt lead at the half after being down the 10pts early in the 2nd qtr…