Hawks Squawks: Warriors 108, Hawks 104
Stephen Curry and the Warriors took one from Hawks. (NBA.com Photo)
Oakland– That’s two games in a row where an all-systems failure led to a dispiriting loss for the Hawks. Same scene after each one, too: J.J. sitting dejectedly at his locker, still in uniform while his teammates hit the showers.
– Not hard to figure why he was bummed about this one. The Hawks did so much right to build an 18-point lead, then blew it by doing everything wrong.
– “We were too comfortable,” Al said. “We thought we could just let them make their run and come back and we would still win.”
– Instead the Warriors took it from them. They had just eight healthy bodies and probably no more than two players on the court who could crack the Hawks’ rotation. Yet they were poised while the Hawks fell apart.
– “We just failed to execute coming down the stretch,” Woody said. “We had a comfortable lead and we stopped doing the things that got us the lead. Defensively, we just shut down.”
– “We definitely stopped playing D,” Jamal said.
– They still had their chances to win. It was tied at 104-104 when Al missed a jumper and it went out of bounds off the Warriors. But Jamal was called for a technical foul, and the Warriors made the free throw for a 105-104 lead.
– “I thought I got pushed under the basket,” Jamal said. “He (the official) didn’t think so. I voiced my frustration and got the technical.”
– Crawford had a chance to make amends when he was wide open for a corner 3-pointer on a pass from J.J. He missed, the Warriors rebounded and Ellis made two free throws for a 107-104 lead.
– The last play for the Hawks: Smoove for a 3-point miss. Huh?
– For the second straight game, the offense stalled in the fourth quarter. Too much standing around and not enough ball movement. “I’ve got to get us out of that,” Woody said. “We are isolating too much now. I’ve got to get more movement, more ball screens, give the ‘bigs’ a chance to make plays.”
– Al is all for that. “The first three quarters we were great. We were unselfish and moving the ball. In the fourth quarter we got very stagnant. We can’t keep letting that happen. It happened early in the year, we fixed it, and now we can’t let it happen again down the stretch when the games are so important.”
– The fourth quarter Iso-Joe count: missed a shot that went off the rim and out of bounds; got fouled and made both free throws; made a 29-foot 3-pointer; missed a leaning jumper on the baseline that Smoove rebounded; and passed out to Jamal for that missed 3-pointer. That’s the most Iso-Joe plays in the fourth since I started keeping count.
– Rookie Stephen Curry ran circles around the Hawks, who never really figured out how to stop him from getting into the lane coming off picks. When they did slow him that way, he made shots.
– “He reminds me of his daddy (Del Curry) except he’s a better pick-and-roll player,” Woody said before the game. “And he’s got a jumpshot. That’s a tough combination.”
– The Hawks now head to Utah, where they’ve lost 15 straight, trying to get a split on the four-game trip. They couldn’t close out the Suns when Woody wouldn’t use his bench, and everyone had a hand in this debacle. “It’s a tough loss,” Woody said. “We are trying to stay at the top of the division. We are trying to stay .500 or better on the road, and now we have slipped under .500. We have some ground to make up.”
– I’m out, Hawks fans.
MC
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GeeMack
February 22nd, 2010
12:34 pm
It doesn’t matter what the Hawks do at this point. We will win between 50 & 55 games, and lose in the 2nd round to Orl or Cle.
This summer we need to address our needs we are still getting out rebounded and killed on the inside. Also the Hawks need floor leader. Someone who can get the team back focused when they go through tough stretches.
vava74
February 22nd, 2010
12:35 pm
Astro,
You are very smooth with your arguments and excuses. IT’S UP TO THE COACH to acknowledge that he has lost the initiative of the game and MAKE COUNTER ADJUSTMENTS.
IT’S NOT UP TO TWO 24 year olds to read defenses and suddenly coach themselves!!!! We made Chris Hunter (with a great help of the refs) look like A F***ING ALL STAR!!!
The tech and the missed 3 pointer by Josh came WHEN WE HAD ALREADY SQUANDERED an 18 point lead.
We were dominating with ELLIS on court, so why should we be afraid of Nellie bringing back Ellis??? Specially since JJ was scoring at will against him!!!!!
So, in my book, Woody should have gone extra big to erase the difference in height that Nellie’s new line up created and if Nellie reverted back to Ellis: I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT.
I WOULD FEEL LESS BAD if we had lost this game if it had been Ellis (who is a tremendous offensive talent) and Curry who had won the game for GS, BUT I CANNOT ACCEPT that we lost the game when NELLIE GOES BIG with BIEDRINS AND CHRIS FREAKING HUNTER!!!!!!!
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
12:35 pm
Does Bibby look horrible “running the team” or does Bibby look horrible shooting the ball?
JEWELL ROLLEN
February 22nd, 2010
12:36 pm
THAT WAS ABOUT AS PATHEIC A 4TH QUATER OF BASKETBALL AS I HAVE EVER SEEN! TO HAVE AN OUTSTANDING 3RD QUARTER AND THEN REVERT BACK TO SLOP BALL. PLEASE DON’T LET BIBBY AND MARVIN PLAY ANYMORE 4TH QTRS! AND IF WE HAVE TO TELL JOSH NOT TO SHOOT 3′S, THIS IS A LOSS CAUSE!
Jerry Jones
February 22nd, 2010
12:38 pm
Hey hawks fans Everyone the Dallas Cowboys will win the championship in my house
Alatl
February 22nd, 2010
12:40 pm
Breaking news the hawks Suck I want the fans to get up and protest the home games till they fire Woody don t but tickets lol
Alatl
February 22nd, 2010
12:40 pm
buy
Fundamentals
February 22nd, 2010
12:43 pm
Astro,
Bibby has his purpose. I think he’s got the ability to come out of this shooting slump. Last night was not a time to use him since their guards are so young and quick. He can run the team in a 1/2 court game effectively. He’s better at a slow grinding game where decision making is key. His shot will come, but last night should’ve been Teague’s. Especially after his strong showing.
GEEMACK
I’ll almost, ~80%, agree with the fact that they’ll win 50 games and be out in the 2nd round. They’re playing to expectations instead of trying their best every night. They’re kids who are content to meet expectations instead of professionals who bring it every night.
We’ve got 20 or so games to become men, and enter the ECF with a bang.
Potential is easily there. Will it happen? I’ll watch every night to see!
Daniel
February 22nd, 2010
12:45 pm
Fundamentals- man, you are little harsh today. I understand your frustration, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say Teague looked “great” running the team. I am also pretty sure that Woodson’s job will not be evaluated on a Feb. game in GS. It will be evaluated by the playoff performance. I think there is a tendency to over analysis after just a crappy game. You said it all when you talked about a lack of focus. The team played like it was a pick up game until the 3rd quarter, then reverted back in the 4th. That lack of focus goes to everyone on the team, including coaches. When everyone talks about player rotations, trades (albeit after the deadline), etc., it is all insignificant if you don’t play with a focus and determination of team with bigger aspirations. We didn’t do that last night.
O'Brien
February 22nd, 2010
12:46 pm
Bibby looks horrible shooting the ball. And he runs the offense better than Teague.
But too many possessions all he does is hand the ball off to JJ or Crawford, and then hang out by the 3pt line. Since January 1, he is 22-80 from the 3 pt line. We need him to start hitting those shots.
Saw this on espn.com,
“Once the final quarter began, the Hawks again fell into a rut of stagnant half-court possessions that typically ended with a missed jump shot.”
“On Friday night, the Hawks scored just 30 second-half points against the league’s 29th-stingiest defense in their loss at Phoenix. On Sunday night, Atlanta blew an 18-point lead while scoring just 14 points in the fourth quarter against the league’s 25th-ranked defense. ”
So not only are we struggling to score, we are struggling against teams that are ranked near the bottom defensively.
Hawks need a win tonight. And I wont be surprised if we find a way to leave with a victory. But then again, this being the Hawks, I also wont be surprised if we get blown out.
rusty
February 22nd, 2010
12:48 pm
did woody lose his brains while he was growing up. i have never seen a team without a clue like hawks. i hope they lose every game so woody wouldnt be here next year. i am so sick of him
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
12:48 pm
Vava, we were NOT dominating in the first half with Ellis on the floor… we had a 1 point lead. We ran Ellis off the floor by playing big boy basketball… had we returned to small ball (which didn’t work in first half) I don’t quite know how you can say we would have definitively won.
If the opposing team changes their strategy and starts fronting Horford or sending over a double team or somehow changes their defensive approoach, are you suggesting that Horford is not responsible for “reading the defense” and adjusting? I would agree that if the defense is effective that Woody should change the offensive strategy and maybe run things through a different player. Bu once a player catches the ball in a scor position, I don’t think they should wait for the coach to yell “shoot it” or “pass it” or “use a jab step, dribble with your right hand into the lane and shoot a hook”. Once the QB drops back to pass, the coach is no longer responsible for the execution of the strategy. And once our player catches the ball in the desired spot on the floor, I don’t think the coach is responsible for what happens next. Not an excuse, I just don’t think we want theplayer holding the ball and waiting for coaching help.
And I’m not blaming Horford. It takes years of experience to be able to defeat various defensive strategies. And like everyone is so quick to point out, he will learn that by having those situations play out in real late and tight game situations. I’m all for featuring Al in those types of situations and living with the good and the bad. The coaching staff needs to work with him and to devise a variety of ways to get him the ball. And when he gets it, the rest is up to Al… not the coaches.
Funny how some players are responsible for looking bad by themselves while others look bad exclusively because of coaching.
O'Brien
February 22nd, 2010
12:51 pm
By the way, Hawks are 4 games up in the loss column in front of the Raptors and the Bulls.
And with so many games left in the season, there is still time to rise to the #2 seed, but there is also enough time that we could fall to #6
Fundamentals
February 22nd, 2010
12:54 pm
Daniel,
Sorry, seems text does carry a different reflection of a persons heart at times. You know my rant every time. Effort & Professionalism. We lacked both last night.
I just don’t see how they can be so immature and leave what obviously works so well behind. Who is going to emerge as the leader to slap somebody when we pull the same crap over and over again?
I will defend the fact that Teague deserves burn when Bibby absolutely sucks like he has of late. Maybe it’ll prove how good Teague is or isn’t before the playoffs and also wake up Bibby. Both need that opportunity to grow. We need both of them 100% come playoff time!
These losses are “minor” in that it’s one game, but I can think of about 8-10 we’ve given away this year. That my friend is the difference in a 2nd seed and a 4th seed. It’s really starting to piss me off.
I honestly don’t think we need a seed to win. We’ll play our game or we’ll go home. When will depend on our focus, effort and defense. We can win with what we have. We just chose not to on some nights. Hopefully we’ll come into form just in time for the 1st round to begin and peak at the end of the ECF. It’s possible, we’ll have to wait & see.
What 2 players can we pick up on waivers to expand our roster? Is there anyone besides Big Z that is coming off we might be interested in? That’s the only player questions we should have right now.
Grandad
February 22nd, 2010
12:59 pm
Ill-logical – Thanks, I understand.
AJ – Agreed.
Bibby has evolved into an undersized shooting guard.
Biedrins doesn’t show up much in the box score but he certainly had an effect on the game with his interior defense. I’ve been saying all year
that we need someone who can affect a game the same way.
darrell starks has been demonstative about Biedrins all year!!!
He will almost assuredly be available this summer.
Would you rather have him @ 9m or Marv @ 7m ? Just curious.
Which would have a greater impact…not an anti-Marv statement;
He just will never get a fair shake here.
Reggie Rooker
February 22nd, 2010
12:59 pm
I was very disappointed in the lost to Golden State; in the last 3 mintues of the game the hawks had a turnover (Joe Johnson), a technical foul (J. Crawford), and a bad shot (Josh Smith). I thought this team was ready for the next level but I can see now that I was wrong. If they don’t get their sh*t together they could end up not making the playoffs at all.
vava74
February 22nd, 2010
1:01 pm
Astro,
We were dominating through 3 quarters and during the first two we could sense that we would be able to keep up with GS “light game” and get the win as soon as we shifted gears and started to go inside.
I never said that we were dominating by playing small ball.
In the end, you end up acknowledging what I said: we got an 18 point cushion by going big, which means that we should have gone BIGGER when GS went with all the size they could.
Instead, we played SMALL against them and settled for a perimeter oriented game.
As for the ball not reaching Al and Josh in the correct spots, yes, Al and Josh can be responsible for that HOWEVER Woody should know his personnel and REACT before we lost all the advantage.
And he DID THE OPPOSITE: he left the same ineffective (at that stage) line up play out the quarter without trying anything different.
Precisely as niremetal usually says: PLAN A was not working and Woody’s reaction was to tell the guys to WORK HARDER AT PLAN A.
For crying out loud. Coaching is not reduced to calling time outs and telling the players to go back to what they were doing during the third quarter!!!
Didn’t it cross Woody’s mind that what worked in the 3rd quarter against one particular GS line up MIGHT NOT WORK with a different GS line up in the field?????
How can’t you acknowledge this simple FACT?
Chief
February 22nd, 2010
1:02 pm
I like a lot of the things said, but one thing has come to mind. We hvae Joe, but look at the teams with great players from past to present. Those players on those teams that were regarded as superstars did not allow other players or their team to give games to other teams…if so they were severly blessed out so as a result everyone played harder. Look at Kobe now with his team they produce I think more so because of Kobe rather than Phil. Joe is the supposed leader but he rather sit quietly and mope. tell him to stop muttering or whispering to himself and do some operating (i.e. foot to a$$).
Daniel
February 22nd, 2010
1:04 pm
Fundamentals- I totally hear you. It was a bad loss. I guess the only thing we can do is wait and see how the team responds in Utah.
Fundamentals
February 22nd, 2010
1:06 pm
Granddad & Starks
Biedrens looks great from time to time. He is a great center for a fast paced team. He’d definitely help us by bumping Horford to 4 and Josh to 3 and Marvin to ??. Problem is he can’t guard real bigs in the 1/2 court. He won’t help us come playoff time, and if he played that good every night he’d be an All Star. Problem is he doesn’t.
Decent piece, but I wouldn’t mortgage the farm to get him w/o also picking up a big that can give Shaq, Dwight, Yao or Bynum fits.
JeJe
February 22nd, 2010
1:08 pm
IT MAY TAKE ME 3 WEEKS TO RECOVER FROM LAST NIGHT’S LOSS.
NO ELITE TEAM GIVES UP AN 18 POINT LEAD TO SOME JOE-BLOW TEAM WITH 6 WINS THAT PLAYS NO DEFENSE AND HAS ITS 2 GUARDS STANDING AT 5″3. JESUS CHRIST. THIS IS PATHETIC. WHAT THE !@#$% DID WOODSON TELL THE TEAM IN THE T.O. BETWEEN 3RD AND 4TH?
DID HE SAY WE SUCK IN THE 4TH QTR ON OFFENSE AND TO CONTINUE THAT TREND?
GET RID OF WOODSON, BIBBY, AND MARVIN. THEY ARE DOING NOTHING FOR THIS TEAM. I SAID BIBBY SHOULD’VE LOST WEIGHT LAST SUMMER. THE GUY COULD BE A !@#DAMN SUMO WRESTLING, HE’S THAT BIG RIGHT NOW.
MARVIN HAS A 290 FOOT WINGSPAN, IS 6″9 AND WENT TO UNC. YET HE IS WORSE THAN CEDRIC BOZEMAN
Fundamentals
February 22nd, 2010
1:09 pm
I predict a strong effort in Utah. They want to maintain they’re .500 record on the road. They know they’re behind expectations. After 2 let downs there’s gonna be some fireworks tonight.
Beating Utah would be something. If we pull the same stunt 3 times in a row I’ve definitley got the wrong ideas about this team at its core.
We’ve gotta respond tonight! Win or lose it has to be a great effort.
GeeMack
February 22nd, 2010
1:18 pm
Enter your comments here
Daniel
February 22nd, 2010
1:18 pm
Gee- this team wins 50-55 (I predicted 53 at the begining of the season) and lose in the second round to Orland or Clevland. I can actually live with that as long as the team goes down fighting (ie. a 6-7 game series) Isn’t that what we all hoped for at the begining of the season? Is that not progress?
Fundamentals
February 22nd, 2010
1:29 pm
Daniel,
I agree it’s progress, but we’ve shown too many real flashes of a 60 win team that can go to the ECF. Progress is made, but some see the bar being raised. Yes, we’re better than expected, but not as good as we should be with the current roster & coaching included in that statement.
I love the progress, as frustrating as it might be.
Jerry Jones
February 22nd, 2010
1:32 pm
nothing in ATL will ever be a champion hawks suck braves suck falcons suck thrashers suck GT suck
Hawker
February 22nd, 2010
1:34 pm
Another big time choke for the poorly coached hawks. Hopefully in the offseason, they fire all these worthless coaches and hire someone who knows how to beat the mediocre teams.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
1:34 pm
Vava, I think a line-up that has Ellis on the bench is preferrable to a line-up that has Ellis in the game. I think the odds are fairly low that NBDL bigs can shut down our power game. Yes, it happened last night, but I would take those odds every time over the chances that Ellis and Curry will shoot themselves past us. And I’m not buying the notion that Teague or Evans could have slowed those guys down defensively. The Warriors score on everyone… including those teams with lightening quick PGs.
Horford and Josh were 1-9 in the 4th quarter. I guess the debate becomes at what point do you stop going to them in that late game situation. I’m okay with feeding them the ball 9 times against the Warriors and a handful of NBDL bigs.
Michael Cunningham
February 22nd, 2010
1:35 pm
@ jay dubu: “Something is missing with the Hawks.They need to get whatever the issue is with Bibby corrected. Marvin has to make the most of his touches” <<<
@ Question of the Day: “MC, Has Woody lost the locker room?” <<<< i don’t sense that. it was an ugly loss but let’s not get carried away. i do think something has to change. lose tonight and suddenly Toronto is creeping up from behind.
@ Astro Joe: “Idiot coach, doesn’t he realize that he must constantly teach because these guys retain nothing?” <<<< i see what you are getting at (sarcastically) here, and it’s an interesting question. now that i’ve been around the team for a bit i’ll be blogging on this topic soon.
@ Ken “Even after admitting that his failure to use his bench backfired on him in the loss to the Suns, Coach Woody comes right out and does the same thing in the very next game where his starters blow a 18 pt lead and lose to a team wit 8 healthy players. Somebody please help me to understand what’s going on here if you can!” <<<
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Sautee
February 22nd, 2010
1:42 pm
Astro Joe,
This isn’t like you (to not take your own advice):
If you said THIS:
“It’s like Josh isn’t allowed to have a bad night, he is.”
Then why say THIS:
“350+ NBA games and still struggling with time and situation. Geez, maybe we need a high school coach to take over the team… as long as it’s not the coach from McEachern… because they don’t do much teaching there (or Oak Hill Academy).”
And my caveat is that for myself, I fail at times to take my own advice as well. So I count you as in good company.
Just surprised at you taking a two game microcosm where he played decently but made some egregious errors and intimating therefore that he’s a slow learner. This coming what, two weeks after you were saying he was winning you over? What happened to him being allowed to have a bad game?
And by the way, other than his FTs and his late game brain freeze, he played pretty well. His rebounding has been stellar lately.
And you said this: “Lack of discipline. Yeah, definitely a coaching issue but the coach can;t be the only voice who preaches discipline. There isn;t another elite team that doesn’t have an alpha male to shake up teammates at the appropriate time… just us.”
For whatever discipline Josh lacks, shouldn’t at least SOME of that lacking go toward the coach who has been coaching Josh longer than any other?
And BTW I agree about the lack of an alpha male. I had HOPED that when we signed JJ, that HE would be “the man” but it’s just not his personality.
Grandad
February 22nd, 2010
1:47 pm
1st of all Daniel; I, for one, have never said I’d be happy with 50 wins and a 2nd round loss whether it be 7 games or 4Either you’re trying to win a championship or you’re not. It’s like the late great Lewis once said:(about a team of sled dawgs)
“If you ain’t the lead Dawg, the view never changes.”
darrell starks
February 22nd, 2010
1:48 pm
Yes i have been asking about biedrins all year but he still look hurt from early in the season when he hurt his back, he dont look the same but at the end of the season he will be back 2 normall and dominate the paint mark my word.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
February 22nd, 2010
1:50 pm
BIEDRINS IS STILL HURTING FROM HIS LOWER BACK YOU CAN TELL.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!
Hawk n the Ham
February 22nd, 2010
1:51 pm
I am starting to believe UGA has a better head coach in Mark Fox, than the Hawks do in the Woodster.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
1:59 pm
Sautee, that was mostly a shot as I saw very, very few comments suggesting that Smith had some accountability for the eventual game-losing play. So yes, I engaged in a little hyperbole for the sake of making a statement. Trust me, I will commit that sin again. Smith has had a remarkable season but shouldn’t be excused for that horrific mistake last night. And I do believe that both can co-exist… a player can play well over a larger sample and still make a boneheaded play.
Yes, I have already said that there may be an issue with guys tuning out Smith. Effective communication is a two-way street. A mentor could tell me ad nauseum to do something the right way. The failure to deliver that message belongs to both parties, the mentor who hasn’t figured out a way to reach me and myself if I haven’t accepted the sage advice.
But then the question becomes, do you know for certain that by replacing this coach, that Smith will listen to the next one? What I wouid hate to see is a revolving door at the coaching position while we look for someone who can iron out those last few wrinkles in Josh Smith.
Honestly, as I look back at last night’s game, I am happy about the outcome. I don’t think Horford and Smith will ever allow themseves to go 1-9 against a mediocre collection of bigs and I don’t think that Josh will lose sight of time and situation in a late/tight game anytime soon. And if those two things happen as a result of last night’s debacle (while remaining 1 game in the lost ciolumn behind the Magic and Celtics), then I can live with the humiliating loss.
Grandad
February 22nd, 2010
2:01 pm
Fundamentals:
Neither would I mortgage the farm. He [AB] may not be able to guard some of those big fellas. But he’s mighty close to 7′ and brings energy every night. I suspect GS will practically give him away.
My 1st choice would be J.Noah but he is most likely untouchable unless Joe decides to leave and we work some sort of S & T with Chi.
It looks as if Haywood (the best match-up for what you described) may
have found a home in Dallas.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
2:01 pm
And Sautee, you asked me to acknowledge that the discipline is partly a coaching issue, and I did in the quote that you initially outlined.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
2:03 pm
Gosh, they just said on the radio that the last time the Hawks won in Salt Lake City, ‘Nique had 43 points in the Hawks victory. YIKES! That covers about 4 coaches… part of Lenny, Kruger, Stotts and Woody. Did I miss a coach?
darrell starks
February 22nd, 2010
2:09 pm
MC bibby nor marvin should be starting there game have become logical fallacies.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!
Grandad
February 22nd, 2010
2:09 pm
AJ:
Are you serious?
Lost the game? We were down 3 already! 14 / 17 / 7 / 2 / 2 !!!
Horrific mental what? Wdsn should not have him in the game if he is not to shoot the ball as time is expiring.
How do you know if Joe or Jamal were even open and if he could see them?
O'Brien
February 22nd, 2010
2:11 pm
The thing with Josh is that he wants to make a play to help the team win, and in his mind, he knows that he can be the guy to make that play.
I think thats why when he gets a rebound, he wants to be the one to push the ball up court and make a play, rather than giving it up to the PG. He is taking matters into his own hands, which he believes will lead to a positive outcome for the team more often that not.
He just made a boneheaded play losing track of time and situation. However, if he somehow made that shot, I wonder what our reactions would be? Would we be praising him for having the mental makeup to take that shot and make it?
AJ,
“And if those two things happen as a result of last night’s debacle (while remaining 1 game in the lost ciolumn behind the Magic and Celtics), then I can live with the humiliating loss”.
The Hawks have to start looking up and down the standings now, because they are only 4 games up in the loss column ahead of the Raptors and Bulls.
darrell starks
February 22nd, 2010
2:13 pm
We need big z bad, and there is some good news steve belkin must pay asg 2mill plus 25mill during the year in order 2 still have part owner ship.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!
Hawk n the Ham
February 22nd, 2010
2:14 pm
@ O’Brien: I agree with you on how this blog would look if Smoove made that shot. It’s not like he air-balled it either, at least he found some rim
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
2:18 pm
Granddad, the game was lost by Josh/Al going 1-9 in 4th quarter. If anyone wants to remove the heave at the end, 1-8 doesn’t sound much better.
Hawk n the Ham
February 22nd, 2010
2:23 pm
It was hard not to go 1-9 in the 4th when either Horfy or Smoove was getting doubled or tripled down low. The rest of the Hawks weren’t swinging around for help, so it made it that much easier for GS to double then recover.
Astro Joe
February 22nd, 2010
2:35 pm
Hawk n the Ham… that’s what I was saying earlier. If they don’t know what to do with a double team, they need to learn (and we need to live with the mistakes while they learn). And if guys weren’t moving to get in position to accept the pass, then that is a mistake that needs to be addressed. I find it hard to believe that “moving to accept a pass out of a double team” is a new idea for any of these players. Both Jamal and Joe have been coached by others. Even you and I would know to do that.
BONE
February 22nd, 2010
2:36 pm
I’m not goNna say it’s Joe’s fault that we loss becuz it’s not. He kept us afloat. But he is not a leader. Whenever a team panics the Leader is supposed to rally his troops, not let them go crazy. If Joe was a leader he woulda got in Josh’s face and told him to stop taking all those dumb jumpers and to get the ball into the post or something like that.
Simply put Joe is not Built 4 War
Melvin
February 22nd, 2010
2:37 pm
Astro,
Comeon. Last night loss was a total team (players and coaches) effort. You wanna point the finger at specific players but those players played well in the 3rd qtr to help the team get a 18pt lead. Last night game shouldnt have come down to a 3pt attempt to tied the game. Hawks should have with held their ground or at least prevent GS 16-0 run.
kwooden1
February 22nd, 2010
2:41 pm
Looking at the play-by-play log you can see where there were several opportunities for Woodson to call a time-out early in the 4th. I think there are times when he loses himself in the game and forgets that he can effect the flow of the game. The HAWKS really needed a timeout when they were up 11, just to get a better idea of how they need to attack the Warriors double-teaming offensive. Don Nelson did a great job of going to the 2 Big, 3 Small line-up, it really stopped our easy offensive down low. Tonight will definitely need a consistent defensive effort.
GO HAWKS!!!
O'Brien
February 22nd, 2010
2:44 pm
vava74,
This was from Mark Bradley on his blog.
“I think Marvin would be better utilized off the bench, John. He’d get more shots with the second unit, even though the Hawks really don’t have a second unit anymore, than he does with the starters. I’d start Mo Evans instead.” MB
I wonder if Mark Bradley has been reading your suggestions….