Hawks at Warriors, AKA My Weird Woody Weekend
Oakland– So on Friday before the Hawks played the Suns, Woody said this about Jason Collins and Joe Smith, two of his postseason-toughened veterans:
“When the playoffs come, they can be a big, significant part of it. I haven’t told them that, but I hope they can sense it. In the playoffs, your rotation thins and you tend to play the guys that have done it. They become more valuable in the playoffs.”
I wondered about both parts of that statement: the thinning of the postseason rotation and using those guys more. But then Woody played both Smith and Collins in the first half against the Suns and Smith played great and Collins wasn’t bad and I’m thinking, “Hey, maybe this is the start of something.”
But then of course Woody didn’t play either of those guys in the second half and in fact used no reserves other than Jamal Crawford. And while owning up to that mistake, Woody said this:
“I had to see something for myself. I condensed things last night almost like it was a playoff game, when your backs are against the wall and you have to have one. I blew out six guys trying to do it. I can tell you it won’t happen again.”
It was all very confusing for me. So I’m looking for some clarity from this game.
– Very interesting development in the Hawks’ Ilgauskas watch. Mark Heisler of the LA Times on Twitter: “Source says NBA has told other teams it won’t let Z go back to Cavs. May be woofing with no rule against it, maybe not.”
And this: NBA stopped just one now-common trade-buyout-re-sign scam-when Stackhouse admitted it–may be working on way to make it two.”
The Washington Post reported Z’s buyout from the Wizards will come sometime this week and that his “heart is in Cleveland.” If the league breaks his heart and won’t allow a reunion (a move the players association would fight) it obviously increases the chances the Hawks can land Big Z.
– Mitch Lawrence of the Daily News had this note today:
Of the top free agents for 2010, Atlanta’s Joe Johnson is the one considered the most likely to find a new team. The Hawks have heard the rumblings and already made it known that Johnson will get a first-year salary of around $17 million in a new multi-year “maximum” salary deal. He’s making $15 million now.
But a league source said the Hawks haven’t let that be known to J.J.: They haven’t negotiated with him since he turned down their extension offer before the season. And so far there have been no indications from J.J.’s camp about his intentions for free agency. At All-Star weekend, J.J. said he’d “love to” stay with the Hawks but was noncommittal about his plans.
– Former Warrior Jamal on if he tries to stick it to his old teams: “It depends on how I’m feeling.”
Well, how is he feeling tonight?
“We’ll see.”
– Talk amongst yourselves, Hawks fans.
MC
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James
February 21st, 2010
10:32 pm
lol Josh WTF
J.J.M.
February 21st, 2010
10:32 pm
wtffffffffff
Melvin
February 21st, 2010
10:32 pm
Josh, what the hell are you doing…
BONE
February 21st, 2010
10:32 pm
WTF kinda play was that. FU.CK THE HAWKS AND FU.CK MIKE WOODSON
Woody's Pretenders vs G. State
February 21st, 2010
10:32 pm
the hawks are stealing a perfectly good playoff spot from a team who is probably 10x better than them
Season Ticket Holder
February 21st, 2010
10:32 pm
This will be my last year as a season ticket holder… and when the Hawks organizations asks why – It will bring me pleasure to tell them that the Hawks SUCK and I can better spend my money elsewhere. Nice play to call or run – Josh Smith for a 3.
Jacket13
February 21st, 2010
10:32 pm
LOL Josh Smith shoots the three!!!!!!!! What a joke!
JM
February 21st, 2010
10:32 pm
What an awful possession. Fitting way for this embarrassing loss to end.
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
10:33 pm
i cant believe that…
bad decision from Crawford to give to Josh.
even dumber for Josh to shoot it.
lol… funny…
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 21st, 2010
10:33 pm
Toronto = 4th seed easily IF this keeps up.
Wabe
February 21st, 2010
10:33 pm
two winnable games at phoenix and g.s. and we hit lulls in the 4th quarters of both games.
please woody, understand why this CONTINUES to happen.
as i speak, JOSH FREAKIN SMITH is taking a 3?
O'Brien
February 21st, 2010
10:33 pm
Wow. Josh Smith takes the 3 with 6 seconds left. Are you serious?
Why did Josh not pass it back to somebody? 6 seconds is plenty of time.
Dumb play by Josh. Dumb play. I’m sure thats not what Woody drew up.
Woody's Pretenders vs G. State
February 21st, 2010
10:33 pm
na-na-na-naaa hey hey hey .. gooodbye!
Pete
February 21st, 2010
10:34 pm
Choke artists.
How pathetic.
Hoops
February 21st, 2010
10:34 pm
Unreal!
Embarrased Hawks Fan In Phoenix
February 21st, 2010
10:34 pm
Embarassed again tonight on national television. Just sickening
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
10:34 pm
there have been some bad losses this year but this one trumps…
BONE
February 21st, 2010
10:34 pm
DO YA’LL HEAR THAT SOUND. THATS THE 100 HAKWS TICKETHOLDERS WHO JUST TRASHED THEIR TICKETS.
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
10:35 pm
Blast…
so are Jamal and Josh apart of your conspiracy too?
David
February 21st, 2010
10:35 pm
Glad the refs decided calling a foul on Golden State in the final 5 minutes just wasn’t part of the game. We were getting mugged on offense regularly, and no whistles were blowing. Hawks choked, but the refs sure helped.
BONE
February 21st, 2010
10:35 pm
Move this team from Atlanta please. Give us the thunder.
Harpie
February 21st, 2010
10:35 pm
This is about the most pitiful showing I’ve ever seen on a basketball court. I knew this was the way things would be when they kept Woodson as coach. This is one fan who is now an EX -fan…
IREPATL
February 21st, 2010
10:35 pm
AND THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT US COMING TO SEE THEM PLAY A PHILIPS? HA NEVER AGAIN WILL I UNLESS A CHANGE IS MADE, WHEN THEY BLEW THAT LEAD A “REAL” COACH WOULDVE LIT FIRE UNDER THEY A!@ES , N WOOD JUST SITS THERE WITH HIS HANDS ON HIS HEAD
Ree Roe
February 21st, 2010
10:36 pm
Fire Mike Woodson. He’s a horrible coach I’m now certain of it. How do you blow an 18 pt lead in the 2nd half? I’m beyond frustrated with this clown…
-REEcently Roe!!!
Sautee
February 21st, 2010
10:36 pm
This ish isn’t working. 18 point lead. OMG.
IREPATL
February 21st, 2010
10:36 pm
ITS THE RED JERSEYS…THEYRE A CURSE I TELL YOU!!
JM
February 21st, 2010
10:37 pm
The Hawks will always be just pretty good with Woody on the sidelines and Joe Johnson as the go-to-guy. Hire a real coach and build around Horford and Smoove. Then we might could be a serious threat to Cleveland and Orlando.
Gwinnett Fred
February 21st, 2010
10:37 pm
Most telling play of the game (and season) – 1 minute to go, tie game & Bibby passes up a wide open trey at the top of the key. He has lost ALL confidence in his game.
Melvin
February 21st, 2010
10:37 pm
Hawks scored 14pts in the 4th tonight after scoring 14 against the Suns in the 4th on Friday night. And some has said we dont need another scorer on this team….. Yeah, right….
Taylor
February 21st, 2010
10:37 pm
Fire Woodson. This game seemed so fixed
MAD-DONNA
February 21st, 2010
10:37 pm
GOOOO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Senator Blutarski
February 21st, 2010
10:37 pm
what a 4th quarter melt-down…sad
Payo2010
February 21st, 2010
10:38 pm
THIS LOSS TAKES THE CAKE !!! I AM DONE WATCHING THIS LOSERS THEY SUCK. JJ CAN GO TO NY IN THE SUMMER HE IS NOT A MAX CONTRACT PLAYER!!! WOODSON NEEDS TO BE FIRED WHAT A JOKE OF A COACH!!
Eman
February 21st, 2010
10:39 pm
Great Game by Joe but I have to say that we need to let the coach go. Dam, this is example of how dumb Josh Smith is. The game should not have been a contest. We will lose in the second round maybe the first. I am so trier of the hawks and this city!!!
Ole Hawk's Fan
February 21st, 2010
10:39 pm
That’s the way to coach WOODY!!!! Up by 20 points(88-68) and lose to Da Lowly Warriors who had only 8 healthy players available tonight. Too much ISO with Slow JJ!
Gwinnett Fred
February 21st, 2010
10:39 pm
And exactly what is Josh even doing on the floor for that last play???????????
Woody— Woody— can you hear me Woody??????
UNFOLD YOUR DAMN ARMS AND MAN UP YOU PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A HEAD COACH AND ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Born2Buzz
February 21st, 2010
10:39 pm
that was a great example of bad coaching. woody and hewitt could change places and neither team would see a difference.
O'Brien
February 21st, 2010
10:40 pm
Ree Roe,
How do you blow an 18 point lead in the FOURTH QUARTER, to a team that had only 15 wins, to a team that has a D-Leaguer getting minutes?
You can’t blame this all on Woody. I dont know what the players were doing out there.
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
10:40 pm
Gwinnett Fred…
yep. i 2nd that… i pointed that out, and its quite telling.
We Blew a 17 Point Lead to GS
February 21st, 2010
10:40 pm
GS..who is 15-39 and had 8 players dressed tonight came back from down 17 and beat us…..THE HAWKS DO NOT RUN PLAYS!! EVERYTHING IS ONE ON ONE. AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES THIS?? This is karma for the Atlanta Spirit…Doing everything on the cheap….
Florida Fan
February 21st, 2010
10:40 pm
The Hawks need to get all black jerseys and tell the fans to come to the arena in black the day they reveal the jerseys. Blackouts work well in Georgia. Oh Wait……
Woody's Pretenders vs G. State
February 21st, 2010
10:41 pm
Poor Ilgauskas. Wonder what he thinks of the possibility leaving Cleveland for …. whatever this is here in Atlanta?
JJ
February 21st, 2010
10:41 pm
Yep, I’ll be boycotting the Hawks for a few weeks. After that BS they pulled tonight they don’t deserve to get watched. What a disgrace.
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
10:41 pm
trying to figure out if some of yall actually watch the game and whats going on or just look to criticize…
IREPATL
February 21st, 2010
10:41 pm
@ HATERS TLKING ABOUT JOE……….JOE DIDNT LOSE US THIS GAME, HE KEPT US IN IT, NOBODY ELSE DID A DANG ON THING
Melvin
February 21st, 2010
10:42 pm
Hawks got beat by an under 500 team with 8 players tonight. Then again, I forgot that we only play 8 guys as well. Oh well, it was an even matchup…
Section 303
February 21st, 2010
10:42 pm
On the bright side…at least we are learning in February that this team is a total fraud. No sense getting any hopes up in April.
terrell
February 21st, 2010
10:42 pm
Fire Woody!
BONE
February 21st, 2010
10:43 pm
The Hawks lost to s f.uckin DLEAGUE team basically.
What the Hawks need to change for them to be successful:
Fire Woodson and get Mike Fratello
Bench Bibby and start Teague
Tell Josh’s dumba.ss to never take a jumpshot again in his life and work on his freethrows.
Get rid of Marvin and Zaza for players who can actually PLAY
Did I mention fire Woody
If none of that happense ship this team to Vegas or somewhere.
niremetal
February 21st, 2010
10:43 pm
bigdave,
I think you know the answer to that one.