Oakland– So on Friday before the Hawks played the Suns, Woody said this about Jason Collins and Joe Smith, two of his postseason-toughened veterans:
“When the playoffs come, they can be a big, significant part of it. I haven’t told them that, but I hope they can sense it. In the playoffs, your rotation thins and you tend to play the guys that have done it. They become more valuable in the playoffs.”
I wondered about both parts of that statement: the thinning of the postseason rotation and using those guys more. But then Woody played both Smith and Collins in the first half against the Suns and Smith played great and Collins wasn’t bad and I’m thinking, “Hey, maybe this is the start of something.”
But then of course Woody didn’t play either of those guys in the second half and in fact used no reserves other than Jamal Crawford. And while owning up to that mistake, Woody said this:
“I had to see something for myself. I condensed things last night almost like it was a playoff game, when your backs are against the wall and you have to have one. I blew out six guys trying to do it. I can tell you it won’t happen again.”
It was all very confusing for me. So I’m looking for some clarity from this game.
– Very interesting development in the Hawks’ Ilgauskas watch. Mark Heisler of the LA Times on Twitter: “Source says NBA has told other teams it won’t let Z go back to Cavs. May be woofing with no rule against it, maybe not.”
And this: NBA stopped just one now-common trade-buyout-re-sign scam-when Stackhouse admitted it–may be working on way to make it two.”
The Washington Post reported Z’s buyout from the Wizards will come sometime this week and that his “heart is in Cleveland.” If the league breaks his heart and won’t allow a reunion (a move the players association would fight) it obviously increases the chances the Hawks can land Big Z.
– Mitch Lawrence of the Daily News had this note today:
Of the top free agents for 2010, Atlanta’s Joe Johnson is the one considered the most likely to find a new team. The Hawks have heard the rumblings and already made it known that Johnson will get a first-year salary of around $17 million in a new multi-year “maximum” salary deal. He’s making $15 million now.
But a league source said the Hawks haven’t let that be known to J.J.: They haven’t negotiated with him since he turned down their extension offer before the season. And so far there have been no indications from J.J.’s camp about his intentions for free agency. At All-Star weekend, J.J. said he’d “love to” stay with the Hawks but was noncommittal about his plans.
– Former Warrior Jamal on if he tries to stick it to his old teams: “It depends on how I’m feeling.”
Well, how is he feeling tonight?
“We’ll see.”
– Talk amongst yourselves, Hawks fans.
MC
422 comments Add your comment
BONE
February 21st, 2010
10:16 pm
AND THE IDIOTS ON HERE THINK THE HAWKS CAN COMPETE WITH THE MAGIC AND THE CAVS LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Sam from da Swats
February 21st, 2010
10:16 pm
Scoring droughts once again….
BONE
February 21st, 2010
10:18 pm
HAWKS=LOSERS
Wabe
February 21st, 2010
10:18 pm
I wouldn’t say beating the Warriors would establish us as a contender. The same holds true if we were to lose to the Warriors and us being pretenders.
However, what you can take away from this is that once again, the Hawks offensive attack stagnated. How do you go from a 4th quarter blowout to a grinder? We didn’t take good shots, which led to transition ball that the Warriors love to play.
J.J.M.
February 21st, 2010
10:20 pm
how you blow that big of a lead to a team that has people hurt
BONE
February 21st, 2010
10:20 pm
No the HAWKS ARE PRETENDERS. UNLESS PEOPLE FORGOT THE HAWKS ALLOWED NATE FREAKIN ROBINSON TO SCORE 41 ON THEM AT HOMEEEEEEEEEEE.
What in the hell makes people think the Hawks are contenders? I might never know.
Hawks vs G. State
February 21st, 2010
10:20 pm
“AND THE IDIOTS ON HERE THINK THE HAWKS CAN COMPETE WITH THE MAGIC AND THE CAVS”
If people are saying the hawks can compete with Orlando they are in a huge state of denial.
Blast
February 21st, 2010
10:20 pm
Ain’t we falling apart now playing that way? We didn’t start the game playing that way. Now they are in a dogfight playing starters heavy minutes.
JM
February 21st, 2010
10:21 pm
The Hawks are an incredibly frustrating team. What a collapse.
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
10:21 pm
not defending iso Joe but at least when we do go to it we are doing something… its some sort of identity . for that stretch offensively we did and had nothing…
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 21st, 2010
10:22 pm
what kinda sh*t is this
Senator Blutarski
February 21st, 2010
10:22 pm
–wow—I run to the store and come back to find out the Hawks get jumped on in the 4th quarter and haven’t played much of the bench again…
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
10:22 pm
Joe has to be careful not to force here…
Melvin
February 21st, 2010
10:22 pm
Curry has scored 1pt less than the Hawks in the 4th qtr. And he is a rookie…
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
10:23 pm
Enter your comments here
Jacket13
February 21st, 2010
10:23 pm
Woodson and Hewitt have the same stupid looks on their faces when their teams FOLD down the stretch! Hopefully they will both be fired at thge end of their seasons!
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
10:23 pm
foul!
O'Brien
February 21st, 2010
10:24 pm
Wow. 4th quarter scoring drought again?
We pounded the ball inside in the third quarter, and scored 38 pts. But now in the 4th, we’re going away from that. Why? Even Tim Legler pointed out how the Hawks have gone away from whats working, settling for more jumpers.
And I would like to hear Woody come out and say he cares about the offense too, because sometimes, our defense just isnt there.
And Bibby is 1-6 in 26 minutes with 3 pts and 4 assists. Teague is 1-3 in 10 minutes, with 4 assists.
Wabe
February 21st, 2010
10:24 pm
In all honesty, what the hell is Bibby useful for when he’s in games if he’s not making jumpers?
He doesn’t do a thing but bring the ball up the court and hand it off to either JJ/Jamal. Damn, JT0 must be struggling with his handoff in practice.
Harpie
February 21st, 2010
10:25 pm
no coach = no win. Mike woodson is a blooming IDIOT!
James
February 21st, 2010
10:26 pm
as soon as bibby didnt throw it to Crawford I knew we would turn it over there
Hawks vs G. State
February 21st, 2010
10:26 pm
these hawks are dum
BONE
February 21st, 2010
10:26 pm
CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE
Wabe
February 21st, 2010
10:26 pm
Seriously man, can we not FREAKING ROTATE THE BALL AROUND!!!!!?!?!??!?!?!?!?
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
10:26 pm
if Bibby doesnt have the confidence to take that shot when open then he doesnt need to be in the game
Hawks vs G. State
February 21st, 2010
10:27 pm
and i quote “these hawks are dum”
Wabe
February 21st, 2010
10:27 pm
W – T – F!
J.J.M.
February 21st, 2010
10:27 pm
i would bench crawford
Blast
February 21st, 2010
10:27 pm
A tech on Jamal? Now? No!!!!!!
Melvin
February 21st, 2010
10:27 pm
How can the Ref call a tech at the point of the game???? WTF???
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
10:27 pm
someone was talking about Jamal’s decision making vs Joe’s…
um… ok.
JM
February 21st, 2010
10:27 pm
Fire Mike Woodson, hire Avery Johnson.
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
10:28 pm
Wabe exactly!!!
Jacket13
February 21st, 2010
10:28 pm
Terrible, Terrible Terrible!!!!!!!!! This team has no heart! Mike Woodson has no control over this team! I think the troubled ownership group for the Hawks will keep Woodson because he is a cheap keep! What a joke for this franchise!
BONE
February 21st, 2010
10:28 pm
Avery Johnson???? the same guy who lost to an 8th seed when his team was a 1 seed HELLLLL NOOOOOO. Get Mike Fratello.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 21st, 2010
10:28 pm
lol embarrassing yourself on national tv against a bottom feeder team.
Hawks vs G. State
February 21st, 2010
10:29 pm
and our PRETENDERS will lose this game!
J.J.M.
February 21st, 2010
10:29 pm
warriors deserve this game
Melvin
February 21st, 2010
10:29 pm
4th qtr meltdown….
BONE
February 21st, 2010
10:29 pm
Game Over the Hawks are chokers
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
10:29 pm
selfish huh?
BONE
February 21st, 2010
10:29 pm
The hawks basically lost to a DLEAGUUE team
O'Brien
February 21st, 2010
10:29 pm
Hawks have made some boneheaded plays this season.
Jamal with the technical there. Josh Smith fouling somebody on a 3pt attempt at the end of the quarter one game, Crawford also did it one game.
What does Woody draw up? Iso JJ. Who then passes to Crawford while other players stand around.
Wabe
February 21st, 2010
10:30 pm
done deal man.
the hawks managed to pull it off. can’t believe it.
i don’t know if i’ve ever been more pi-$$-ed watching a hawk game.
Blast
February 21st, 2010
10:30 pm
Hawks sucks. Joe Johnson sucks even more. Utah is gonna bash them tomorrow.
Common Sense
February 21st, 2010
10:30 pm
Hawks will never win the big one against the elite teams with the ball in Joe Johnson’s hands. His dribbling act has become tiresome.
BONE
February 21st, 2010
10:30 pm
ANybody try to defend the HAwks I’ll punch you in the face
Jacket13
February 21st, 2010
10:31 pm
Bewteen Tech and the Hawks, its hard to be a fan of either team. While they continue to stroke Joe Johnson on tv, they havent mentioned the two crucial turnovers he has down the stretch!
BONE
February 21st, 2010
10:31 pm
JJ dribbled the ball away
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
10:32 pm
funny how we cry and complain about Joe having the ball too much.. but from the outside looking in its different.