Hawks at Warriors, AKA My Weird Woody Weekend
Oakland– So on Friday before the Hawks played the Suns, Woody said this about Jason Collins and Joe Smith, two of his postseason-toughened veterans:
“When the playoffs come, they can be a big, significant part of it. I haven’t told them that, but I hope they can sense it. In the playoffs, your rotation thins and you tend to play the guys that have done it. They become more valuable in the playoffs.”
I wondered about both parts of that statement: the thinning of the postseason rotation and using those guys more. But then Woody played both Smith and Collins in the first half against the Suns and Smith played great and Collins wasn’t bad and I’m thinking, “Hey, maybe this is the start of something.”
But then of course Woody didn’t play either of those guys in the second half and in fact used no reserves other than Jamal Crawford. And while owning up to that mistake, Woody said this:
“I had to see something for myself. I condensed things last night almost like it was a playoff game, when your backs are against the wall and you have to have one. I blew out six guys trying to do it. I can tell you it won’t happen again.”
It was all very confusing for me. So I’m looking for some clarity from this game.
– Very interesting development in the Hawks’ Ilgauskas watch. Mark Heisler of the LA Times on Twitter: “Source says NBA has told other teams it won’t let Z go back to Cavs. May be woofing with no rule against it, maybe not.”
And this: NBA stopped just one now-common trade-buyout-re-sign scam-when Stackhouse admitted it–may be working on way to make it two.”
The Washington Post reported Z’s buyout from the Wizards will come sometime this week and that his “heart is in Cleveland.” If the league breaks his heart and won’t allow a reunion (a move the players association would fight) it obviously increases the chances the Hawks can land Big Z.
– Mitch Lawrence of the Daily News had this note today:
Of the top free agents for 2010, Atlanta’s Joe Johnson is the one considered the most likely to find a new team. The Hawks have heard the rumblings and already made it known that Johnson will get a first-year salary of around $17 million in a new multi-year “maximum” salary deal. He’s making $15 million now.
But a league source said the Hawks haven’t let that be known to J.J.: They haven’t negotiated with him since he turned down their extension offer before the season. And so far there have been no indications from J.J.’s camp about his intentions for free agency. At All-Star weekend, J.J. said he’d “love to” stay with the Hawks but was noncommittal about his plans.
– Former Warrior Jamal on if he tries to stick it to his old teams: “It depends on how I’m feeling.”
Well, how is he feeling tonight?
“We’ll see.”
– Talk amongst yourselves, Hawks fans.
MC
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422 comments Add your comment
Blast
February 21st, 2010
8:52 pm
bigdave,
I’m just saying. Time after time, Joe seems to do stuff that hurts the team! Hidden agenda?
Blast
February 21st, 2010
8:53 pm
No, I think our depth will come through in the end.
BONE
February 21st, 2010
8:53 pm
Joe got worked HOLY SH.IT
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
8:53 pm
Joe why you pass it to Marvin in the post, you know he “cant do anything with it”…
Najeh Davenpoop
February 21st, 2010
8:53 pm
If Woody doesn’t give a sh-t about offense, does that mean we can hold him responsible for the Hawks’ absolutely PATHETIC defense?
Wabe
February 21st, 2010
8:53 pm
Where’s the defense?
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
8:54 pm
lol… aight Blast…
lets hope not homeboy…
BONE
February 21st, 2010
8:54 pm
The Hawks are not contenders. . Having trouble with this sh.itty defensive team.
O'Brien
February 21st, 2010
8:54 pm
JJ passing the ball to Teague at the end of the shot clock…Isnt that the same thing that JJ would do to Josh? Remember when Josh was forced to take alot of jumpers at the end of the shot clock because Joe passed it to him with very little time left? I think a big part of that is on JJ.
@ bigdave,
I missed the Woody comments. What did he say?
Wabe
February 21st, 2010
8:55 pm
JT0, Crawford, JJ, Smoove, Horford.
Do it.
Hoops
February 21st, 2010
8:56 pm
The Warriors have the game @ their pace!
Hoops
February 21st, 2010
8:56 pm
Are we going to get Big Z this week???
Melvin
February 21st, 2010
8:58 pm
Oh my gosh. The Hawks ran a set play (other than Iso) and it work…
BONE
February 21st, 2010
9:00 pm
Everybody has to give Sunds some credit. He’s smart enuff to know that Woody doesn’t deserve a contract.
Sid
February 21st, 2010
9:00 pm
We shouldve traded Joe .
NOT because he sucks or anything but I just cant see this team being able to grow with him . Where is his fire ? his passion ? I look at the intensity that Dwade ,Kobe ,Lebron ,Paul ,Dwill play with and I just dont see it. .They commit 1000% and you never doubt for a second whether or not the are going all out to win EVERY GAME.
Sid
February 21st, 2010
9:03 pm
Joe SMFH …….
Melvin
February 21st, 2010
9:03 pm
Joe gets no respect from the Refs…
Najeh Davenpoop
February 21st, 2010
9:03 pm
Every jump shot the Hawks take in this game might as well be a turnover. Every possession without a post-up is a possession wasted.
Sam from da Swats
February 21st, 2010
9:04 pm
Man, I read the blog and what a difference now. Where were all the guys that before were defending Marvin when I’ve been saying how horrible this guy is? Marvin is a clown just like I’ve been saying all along.
BONE
February 21st, 2010
9:04 pm
Are we seriously struggling with this sh.itty defensive team????
d.carter
February 21st, 2010
9:05 pm
did joe just get punked by monte ellis
Blast
February 21st, 2010
9:06 pm
What a game! GS might be short handed, but they sure are not playing like it! Let’s see if they can keep it up in the 4th.
Jamal seems to have found his stroke. Hawks need it!
BONE
February 21st, 2010
9:06 pm
Marvin;s nicknames: Duck, DuckButt, Goofy, Bozo, Quack.
Hoops
February 21st, 2010
9:06 pm
Sid,
Joe plays a lot of minutes. That affects his fire. We need to use our bench more. It’s an 82 game regular season for goodness sakes!
d.carter
February 21st, 2010
9:06 pm
we have the worst offensive system in the nba
Sautee
February 21st, 2010
9:06 pm
If they shoot 53% in the second half we’re in trouble.
This ish isn’t working so far.
Sautee
February 21st, 2010
9:08 pm
And where is Samuel with his boy Monta beastin’?
d.carter
February 21st, 2010
9:08 pm
we will never get any better than we are with woody at the helm
d.carter
February 21st, 2010
9:10 pm
woody simply folds his arms and yells at the players he doesnt like
Sautee
February 21st, 2010
9:13 pm
Is Mo hurt, or in Woody’s doghouse?
d.carter
February 21st, 2010
9:13 pm
Joe just doesnt have the it factor… Notice how Lebron, Melo, Pierce, Kobe, and Wade all will force their way to the basket and force the refs to blow the whistle? Joe forces 20 foot fadaways when he gets mad… The ball should stay in crawfords hands when the game is on the line…
Mel
February 21st, 2010
9:13 pm
right about now, I think I’d rather see the Cavs in the 2nd round. If we get the 2nd or 3rd seed we still have to see the Magic. We can play Cleveland. I would LeBron get his and shut down everyone else. That will be their demise, LBJ trying to do too much.
Sam from da Swats
February 21st, 2010
9:15 pm
LOL…Duckbutt!!! LOL
Blast
February 21st, 2010
9:16 pm
Hawks fans a bunch of funny folks! But I see where they are coming from. If Hawks lose tonight, you can see then going on a 3 game losing streak. Which will be bad. Very bad.
Hoops
February 21st, 2010
9:18 pm
Mel,
That’s a great plan except we don’t have anyone to shut down Shaq. We need to sign Big Z. I’m not saying that he could shut down Shaq, but @ least Big Z will pull Shaq away from the basket so we could score more with Josh and Al.
Blast
February 21st, 2010
9:19 pm
Let’s Go, Hawks! Let’s Go, Hawks! Let’s Go Hawks!
Reality
February 21st, 2010
9:19 pm
Tierd about hearing about Marvin Elis and Curry are killing us – they are guards – we get toasted by guards – Does Bibby come to mind?
Reality
February 21st, 2010
9:21 pm
We have a much more documented history of guards kiling us more than antyhing,
Mel
February 21st, 2010
9:23 pm
there goes the post up u wanted lol
Najeh Davenpoop
February 21st, 2010
9:23 pm
There’s a good possession! Joe posts up the much smaller Monta Ellis, scores, and gets to the line. EVERY possession should have a Joe post-up or a Josh post-up.
Sid
February 21st, 2010
9:24 pm
cant blame all of it on Bibby, Monte and Curry are playing together that last shot was in Marvins face.
Mel
February 21st, 2010
9:24 pm
@hoops yeah i get what you’re saying. if only they would run more, shaq would be nullified for the most part
BONE
February 21st, 2010
9:25 pm
DuckButt is horrendous
Chris Murphy, Atlanta, GA
February 21st, 2010
9:25 pm
Woodson’s a legend in his own mind, and that is a damn scary place to be.
Sid
February 21st, 2010
9:25 pm
Marvin is a scrub follow your shot why are you fading away on a jump hook lol
BONE
February 21st, 2010
9:26 pm
Can Josh make 2 free throws in a row
Sid
February 21st, 2010
9:26 pm
omg marvin made a shot
Najeh Davenpoop
February 21st, 2010
9:27 pm
Another post-up, another and-1 opportunity. KEEP FEEDING THE BALL INSIDE!
bigdave
February 21st, 2010
9:27 pm
O’brien…
basically that its hard to find mins for 3 pg’s but his progression is going well…
honestly i didnt know we had 3pg’s
Sid
February 21st, 2010
9:28 pm
I guess no one knew who Curry was just dont even try and defend him