Hawks at Warriors, AKA My Weird Woody Weekend

Oakland– So on Friday before the Hawks played the Suns, Woody said this about Jason Collins and Joe Smith, two of his postseason-toughened veterans:

“When the playoffs come, they can be a big, significant part of it. I haven’t told them that, but I hope they can sense it. In the playoffs, your rotation thins and you tend to play the guys that have done it. They become more valuable in the playoffs.”

I wondered about both parts of that statement: the thinning of the postseason rotation and using those guys more. But then Woody played both Smith and Collins in the first half against the Suns and Smith played great and Collins wasn’t bad and I’m thinking, “Hey, maybe this is the start of something.”

But then of course Woody didn’t play either of those guys in the second half and in fact used no reserves other than Jamal Crawford. And while owning up to that mistake, Woody said this:

“I had to see something for myself. I condensed things last night almost like it was a playoff game, when your backs are against the wall and you have to have one. I blew out six guys trying to do it. I can tell you it won’t happen again.”

It was all very confusing for me. So I’m looking for some clarity from this game.

– Very interesting development in the Hawks’ Ilgauskas watch. Mark Heisler of the LA Times on Twitter: “Source says NBA has told other teams it won’t let Z go back to Cavs. May be woofing with no rule against it, maybe not.”

And this: NBA stopped just one now-common trade-buyout-re-sign scam-when Stackhouse admitted it–may be working on way to make it two.”

The Washington Post reported Z’s buyout from the Wizards will come sometime this week and that his “heart is in Cleveland.” If the league breaks his heart and won’t allow a reunion (a move the players association would fight) it obviously increases the chances the Hawks can land Big Z.

Mitch Lawrence of the Daily News had this note today:

Of the top free agents for 2010, Atlanta’s Joe Johnson is the one considered the most likely to find a new team. The Hawks have heard the rumblings and already made it known that Johnson will get a first-year salary of around $17 million in a new multi-year “maximum” salary deal. He’s making $15 million now.

But a league source said the Hawks haven’t let that be known to J.J.: They haven’t negotiated with him since he turned down their extension offer before the season. And so far there have been no indications from J.J.’s camp about his intentions for free agency. At All-Star weekend, J.J. said he’d “love to” stay with the Hawks but was noncommittal about his plans.

– Former Warrior Jamal on if he tries to stick it to his old teams: “It depends on how I’m feeling.”

Well, how is he feeling tonight?

“We’ll see.”

– Talk amongst yourselves, Hawks fans.

MC

422 comments Add your comment

bigdave

February 21st, 2010
8:06 pm

lets get it…

BONE

February 21st, 2010
8:09 pm

Damn Marvin sucks

bigdave

February 21st, 2010
8:10 pm

media donning us a potential eastern conference contender…

when did this happen? i dont know if its a good or bad thing….

BONE

February 21st, 2010
8:10 pm

curry is gonna rape bibby

bigdave

February 21st, 2010
8:10 pm

Josh was the number 2 option out the gate instead of Bibby.. id like to see that continue…

BONE

February 21st, 2010
8:10 pm

WTF is Josh doin

BONE

February 21st, 2010
8:12 pm

Man why the f.uck does Al take those tough shots?

Astro Joe

February 21st, 2010
8:15 pm

If the players union allows Stern to get away with changing rules and loopholes on the fly, then they deserve to have their pay cut in half, their contracts turned into non-guaranteed salaries and everything else that the owners stick to them. Billy Hunter better not roll over on this one… not so close to the actual CBA negotiations.

bigdave

February 21st, 2010
8:16 pm

Bibby comes down and takes a bad shot and then watches Steph Curry pull up..

as i type he turns the ball over…

Blast

February 21st, 2010
8:18 pm

Bibby! Missed shot and a turnover!

What is wrong with Mike? Never seen him play so bad for so long a stretch!

BONE

February 21st, 2010
8:20 pm

The problem with Bibby is he is extremely out of shape. Thats why we should get rid of him.

BONE

February 21st, 2010
8:21 pm

Can the hawks rebound at all.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 21st, 2010
8:21 pm

“My Weird Woody Weekend” sounds like a pretty terrible porno.

Hoops

February 21st, 2010
8:21 pm

We need to play our bench and keep our front line players fresh! The Warriors only have 8 players available!!!

BONE

February 21st, 2010
8:23 pm

If the Hawks have trouble with the damn WARRIORS how the hell can the hawks be a contender.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 21st, 2010
8:23 pm

If we had a coach who gave a sh-t about offense, we would see Josh Smith or Joe Johnson posting up on every single possession. The Hawks have such a huge size advantage that any outside jumper is a failure in this game.

bigdave

February 21st, 2010
8:24 pm

Josh has to work on going to his right b/c he drop steps to that baseline often… Al has to work on going left he’s pretty much a given to go to that step through move and and put the hook up in the lane..

Sautee

February 21st, 2010
8:26 pm

LOL at Najeh

O'Brien

February 21st, 2010
8:26 pm

From the other blog,

@ Najeh,

So far, Sund has one brilliant move on his Hawks resume, and that was trading for Crawford. Everything else is an ‘F’ or incomplete (except for Flip).

1) He signed Mo Evans for 3 years (one year too long). He is averaging 4.5 ppg in January, and is averaging 2 ppg in Feb. And we will have him next year, assuming he exercises his player option. Thats an F.

2) He gave Bibby a 3 yr deal, which means 2 more seasons after this one. So far, thats an F.

3) He signed Marvin for 5 years, $7.5 mil per. Thats an incomplete.

4) He couldnt work something out with Chills. Thats an incomplete.

5) He did sign Flip, and that was probably an A or B.

6) He resigned ZaZa, and thats an incomplete, because ZaZa has been inconsistent this year

@ MC,

I think you will experience more weird Woodys as the season goes on, even in the playoffs. Us Hawks fans are used to it.

Over the years, he would say how he has to find a way to get JJ some more rest (it never happened), he said he has to find more time for the bench (it never happened), he said we would run more last season (it never happened), and the list goes on.

Hopefully, this year will be different.

Senator Blutarski

February 21st, 2010
8:26 pm

–does seem like a good game to shuttle people like Evans, Teague, Zaza, Joe Smith, Jason Collins in some to let them get some work, wear down the Warriors, starters and Jamal fresh for the 4th quarter…

BONE

February 21st, 2010
8:29 pm

Teague>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bibby frog face

Najeh Davenpoop

February 21st, 2010
8:29 pm

Who is this #0 playing for the Hawks? Did they trade for Arenas?

bigdave

February 21st, 2010
8:30 pm

wow… Woodson basically fed the national media pure BS about Teague… honestly Jamal Crawford shouldnt be coming off the bench as a PG..

Blast

February 21st, 2010
8:30 pm

Was really rooting for Cavs to beat Magic today, but glad to see that Celts DID lose. Hawks have to beat GS to stay in contention.

If the Cavs can take advantage of a loophole in the rules that allow them to resign Big Z, then Stern has no business stopping it.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 21st, 2010
8:31 pm

O’Brien, I generally agree with your assessment of Sund. Ultimately those incompletes — especially the Zaza and Marvin contracts — will be determined by how much it affects the Hawks’ ability to keep Joe Johnson this offseason and Al Horford next offseason.

Blast

February 21st, 2010
8:34 pm

Tonight, Hawks need to remove the bitter taste of defeat from last night by beating GS! They cannot afford to lose this game!!

Wabe

February 21st, 2010
8:35 pm

Bibby’s not playing well. Teague’s play hasn’t stagnated the Hawks attack one bit. Lets see how long Woody sticks with the kid.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 21st, 2010
8:37 pm

There you go Josh. Take it to the hoop. Josh really should be able to put up a triple double against this team.

Blast

February 21st, 2010
8:37 pm

Josh getting bumped on the drive, but no calls.

Wabe

February 21st, 2010
8:38 pm

Very sloppy.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 21st, 2010
8:39 pm

There is a situation where Teague’s presence negatively affects the Hawks. Crawford ended up banking in that 3, but Johnson passed it to Teague expecting him to shoot it, as Bibby would have. Teague’s inexperience led him to not be aware of the clock at that time.

Wabe

February 21st, 2010
8:40 pm

We basically have 4 gaurds on the floor, none of which are penetrating. Too much one on one, not enough movement. Too sloppy.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 21st, 2010
8:40 pm

That looked like Zaza saw the reflection of the hoop in the floor and tried to shoot the ball into the reflection.

Astro Joe

February 21st, 2010
8:40 pm

Time to bench the bench.

Sautee

February 21st, 2010
8:41 pm

We need to go inside, even the guards.

Jacket13

February 21st, 2010
8:43 pm

Why are the Hawks constantly doiong this one on one bull crap? They need to post Hortford and J Smith up and work off of that. They are making themselves easy to defend with this crap. Woodson not being resigned is a clear indication that he will be shown the door if they cant get to the Eastern Finals this year or have a better shoeing in the second round. Between Hewitt and Woodson, ATlanta basketball coaches are horrible.

Blast

February 21st, 2010
8:43 pm

I don’t think Joe should have passed the ball to the rook at that time. He knows the rook can’t shoot, and Joe held the ball too long. He does the same thing to Josh.

So far watching Joe, it seems like he might be trying to sabotage the game. Giving the ball to folks where he knows they can’t do anything with it, holding the ball too long on the triple, making errant cross court passes to Jamal when he knew Jamal would not catch it?…..Just saying….

Reality

February 21st, 2010
8:43 pm

Let the bench play

Reality

February 21st, 2010
8:44 pm

you want Bibby?

Melvin

February 21st, 2010
8:45 pm

Hawks look like they are playing pickup ball at the YMCA gym.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 21st, 2010
8:47 pm

Jamal Crawford’s 3s (which are actually not great shots) are keeping the Hawks in this game.

BONE

February 21st, 2010
8:47 pm

bigdave

February 21st, 2010
8:47 pm

Woodson just doesnt like seeing Joe on the bench..

Jacket13

February 21st, 2010
8:48 pm

Marvin Williams is a BIG BUST!!!!! What a joke! Why didnt they try to trade him? He gives nothing important in a game. Think of what this team could be with Chris Paul or Darrin Williams?????

Reality

February 21st, 2010
8:48 pm

bench JJ – save him for 2nd half

bigdave

February 21st, 2010
8:49 pm

so Blast..

Joe is conspiring the demise of the Atlanta Hawks organization… . i see…

Blast

February 21st, 2010
8:50 pm

Yeah. Joe has played all night. Seat him a while.

Reality

February 21st, 2010
8:50 pm

our bigs will come through in the end

bigdave

February 21st, 2010
8:51 pm

wow… still in the game.

Reality

February 21st, 2010
8:51 pm

jj to gasses to defend