Hawks Squawks: Suns 88, Hawks 80

Tough night for Woody. (AP Photo)

Tough night for Woody. (AP Photo)

Phoenix– The Hawks limited Steve Nash to six points. The Suns made just two 3-pointers, scored more than 20 points below their average and had their lowest-scoring game since Feb. 22, 2008.

– And yet the Hawks still lost. What happened? “I’m not sure,” Jamal said. “Maybe we lost focus a little bit and it caught up with us.”

– Or maybe the Hawks’ starters lost their legs. Woody didn’t play any bench players other than Jamal in the second half. “I decided to go that route,” he said. “I learned a little something tonight because that won’t happen again.”

– With that, Woody walked off. Maybe he was peeved at his starters for letting the Suns’ reserves outplay them or ticked at himself for not using his bench more.

– Did the starters fatigue? “I’m not sure,” Josh Smith said. “Normally we don’t get tired. We practice well with our conditioning. We just got outplayed, bottom line.”

– The game was tied at 70-70 early in the fourth quarter. Then the Suns used their bench guys to put the Hawks away. “Their second unit outplayed us,” Smoove said. “We just can’t let that happen.”

– Starters Nash, Amar’e Stoudemire and Robin Lopez played less than four minutes in the fourth period. Grant Hill played 1:14.

– “You’ve got to give their bench credit,” Al said. “They came out and stepped it up. We were not doing enough to get stops when we needed them. We were not being aggressive enough in the fourth quarter.”

– The Suns’ bench players scored 13 in the fourth. The Hawks scored 14 points total with no assists. “They are NBA players,” J.J. said of the Suns reserves. “That happens.” He didn’t seem at all happy about losing in the city where he made his NBA rep.

– The Hawks shot just 40 percent, turned it over 15 times and gave up 14 offensive rebounds. “It seemed like when our offense wasn’t working, we gave it up defensively as well,” J.J. said. “It’s very frustrating because we know the position we are in and we know we have a tight race in the East. It’s definitely mind-boggling.”

– The Suns got 52 of their 88 points in the paint. That’s 59 percent of their points from in close. That’s just bad. “We gave up some baskets,” Al said, “but when you hold them to 88 points you should win.”

– The Suns had six straight buckets in the paint during their decisive 13-0 run in the fourth quarter: Jared Dudley got to the rim and tipped in his own missed layup, Jason Richardson went unchecked for a dunk on the baseline, Channing Frye got dunk in transition, Louis Amundson scored on a putback and then a spin move in the lane and Dudley made a layup.

– “You have to play 48 minutes consistently,” Al said. “We had some slip-ups, their bench really stepped it up and that was it.”

– Actually, despite all that went wrong the Hawks got six with 1:31 to play. They were down 86-79 with 1:12. “That’s plenty of time,” Woody said, but then Marvin threw it away to Nash from out of bounds.

– The Hawks didn’t foul there, either. It just seemed like no one was mentally into it in the fourth quarter. It looked like the refocus and recommit talk didn’t last once the Hawks met an opponent that offered more resistance than the Clippers.

– Jamal was 0-for-4 in the first half, 4 of 11 overall. “They double-teamed me the whole game,” he said. “I’ve never seen that. I asked Channing who else they’ve done that to and he said, ‘You are in good company.’”

Joe Smith played six spirited minutes in the first half with seven points and four rebounds. Then he didn’t play after halftime as the Hawks struggled to score and rebound. It didn’t make sense.

– The Hawks blew a game they should have at least had a chance to win at the end. Now they are 1-1 on the four-game trip with the Warriors on Sunday and the Jazz on Monday. “We’ll bounce back but we’ve got to learn from this,” Woody said.

– I didn’t note any fourth-quarter Iso-Joe plays in the last two games. He didn’t play much in the fourth against the Clippers and only got off three shots late against the Suns.

– I’m out, Hawks fans.

MC

92 comments Add your comment

BosnianBaller

February 19th, 2010
11:32 pm

Marvin Sucks!!!!!

jerrywest

February 19th, 2010
11:34 pm

Was Marvin drunk during the game?

HUH?

February 19th, 2010
11:37 pm

I’ve never bashed the coach before, but Woody lost this very winnable game and cost the team a chance to gain a game against Cavs and Magic. You can’t win with a 6 man rotation in the second half. We scored 30 second half points. Guys are exhausted and can’t close. We lost to their second string! What are you thinking Woody? How do you make sense of that?

Hawks v. Suns

February 19th, 2010
11:39 pm

sooo many bench guys with single digit playing time

rms

February 19th, 2010
11:44 pm

hock

February 19th, 2010
11:49 pm

Marvin plays like Woody’s son.

O'Brien

February 19th, 2010
11:50 pm

Astro,

Woody has never implied that Teague is not playing well in practice. He said he is choosing not to play Teague because of the veterans in front of him. Not once has Woody said Teague is not ready. So how do you know that Teague is not playing well in practice?

And on a night when Bibby plays 39 minutes, goes 1-8 from the field, scored 6 points and 2 assists, you mean Teague would have done worse than that?

Bad night for Hawks all around. Marvin Williams, 6 pts, 2 rebounds, with only 5 shots in 34 minutes? While his opposite Grant Hill gets 16 and 5. Bibby was bad, we missed 8 FT, got outrebounded by 14, went 3-14 fom 3.

But hey, no need to worry about offense. Its all about defense, right Woody? We hold the Suns to 20 points below their season average. I guess we needed to play better defense and hold them to 29 points below their average.

At what point does Woody get concerned about our 4th quarter scoring woes?

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 19th, 2010
11:52 pm

From what I’ve noticed, several of the choke jobs the Hawks pull in 4th quarters are because of Joe Johnson and Josh Smith panicking in the “back against the wall” moments and not making smart/good decisions.

Josh Smith tried to do too much, gets out his game and wants to be a guard. He starts trying to cross people over, taking long jumpers or wild shots that usually resultin 2 back the other way.

Joe Johnson starts his typical dribbling into double/triple teams and waits too long to get off a decent shot or pass. Joe Johnson is a very good player, and SOMETIMES he can make those tough shots, but the problem is…he isnt Kobe or Carmelo and he still fails waaay too often in those types of situations late in games.

They’ve just got to play smarter in the 4th.

lol I’d rather just have Crawford chunk up the bulk of the shots in the 4th or dump somethign down to horford rather than see what I see out of Josh and Joe something in the 4th. They do this way too often (if you expect us to beat the elites in a 7 game series).

But hey, maybe this is what happens when you dont have real offensive sets in the first place?

RomeDawg

February 20th, 2010
12:06 am

Come on Marvin, time to step up and be aggressive!

Astro Joe

February 20th, 2010
12:06 am

OB, didn’t Woody say that the reason Teague wasn’t playing in Rookie game because Woody didn’t play him more? Woody says all kind of ish to make a player feel good. I don’t believe that stuff and I’m not sure that you should either. Unless you actually believe that had Teague played 15-20 minutes a game, he would have gotten the nod over Tyreke Evans or Stephen Curry.

Woody is not the type of coach to say “the rook sucks at practice”. Phil Jackson would. Larry Brown would have Teague in a corner crying on the phone to his mother. George Karl would stop talking to him altogether. But Woody that’s not Woody’s style.

Woody didn’t lose this game by not playing Teague, he lost it by not playimg Joe Smith and Zaza in the 2nd half.

cp

February 20th, 2010
12:10 am

Marvin and Bibby have been horrible for most of the season. Bibby was given two years too many on that contract. People always come up with excuses not to play Teague. Its either he might cost us games, or he isn’t ready, or he might not be doing good in practice. I’m sorry but even as bad as his shot has been you cant tell me he cant go out there and put up the weak numbers Bibby is putting up. I don’t think it would be too hard for the kid to come 6 or 7 points and get beat on defense all night. Its time to see what we have in the kid. Bibby looks done..And can someone tell Woodrow its ok to reward the bench guys for good play. For some reason a guy can come in the first half play some good ball and not see the court the second half. I wont even start with the lack of adjustments.

Greg

February 20th, 2010
12:11 am

When you go 5+ minutes in the 4th quarter without scoring a single friggin’ point, you are going to lose. Scoring droughts like that will be their undoing in the playoffs.

Astro Joe

February 20th, 2010
12:15 am

Marvin took 5 shots tonight. 5. If he had been GREAT and shot 4-5, the Hawks still would have lost. 5 shots. Give me a break.

The Truth

February 20th, 2010
12:27 am

If anybody suggests that one Hawk player loss this game they obviously have an agenda. This was a total (and I mean total) team loss. They all stunk (accept maybe Josh). I stop watching at the 7 minute mark (in the 4th) when I knew the outcome in advance. Perhaps this is not the appropriate time to discuss expendable players in the off-season after watching this game. However, the one observation I can’t resist criticizing is our bench. I will just call it a “Joke” without wasting to much of my time.

The Truth

February 20th, 2010
12:45 am

Since Mo Evans has been so inconsistent as of late. Woody may want to consider moving Joe Smith to SF to backup Marvin then activate Morris to backup Josh. Joe Smith seems to have found his stoke as of late. It certainly won’t do any worst then what we are getting from Mo right now. Also, Morris offense skills (still) have not really been utilized properly.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

February 20th, 2010
12:46 am

hawks are slipping, will back into the playoffs with a losing streak. Orlando will knock us out in the 1rst round or 2nd…again.

Truthspitter

February 20th, 2010
12:51 am

The Hawks are all soft. Al Hortford has averaged 7 rebs per game since he was named an All-star, which he did not deserve. 7 rebs and wants to flex in front of the camera, Al is a soft wanna be model, posing and everything other than really doing the dirty work. Marvin is pure garbage and has been since day 1. Bibby gets a pass from me because he really should be playing 15 to 20 minutes a night at most, but Teague looks to be another horrible draft pick from the Hawks. Why couldn’t one of our 5 top 5 picks turn out to be a undisputed perennial All-Star? I know the answer because manage sucks and that includes Sund. So, quit begging people to come out and watch this fraud of a contender.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 20th, 2010
12:57 am

From the previous blog…

“Maybe Teague needs to learn some basic basketball skills in practice first. ”

Teague has proven in games when he has gotten playing time that he can produce, which clearly means that he does have basketball skills.

“Heaven knows, that was true of Josh Smith, but we didn’t have the luxury of having him sit. So instead, he took shots that he had less than a 30% chance of hitting and we endured it all. We read articles this year where he admits that he had no concept of time and situation in his first few years in the league and yet he was on the court.”

Why did it take Josh “years” to figure out the concepts of time and situation? Is it because he is that slow of a learner, or is it because the system (or lack thereof) in which he plays never defined a clear role for him? I don’t absolve Josh of all responsibility for his poor shot selection and decision making in years past, but a lot of that has to do with the fact that he is a jack-of-all-trades player on a team whose system never defined what he should and should not be doing on the court. Josh isn’t even the only Hawk whose development suffered because he was never given a defined role — look at what Boris Diaw did when he joined a team that had a defined offensive system that placed him in a position to play to his strengths.

“I’m thrilled that we now have enough depth that we can nurture a guy at practice without rewarding him for bad habits demonstrated at practice.”

I would buy that he is being “nurtured” if he was getting better. I would even be willing to buy it if Acie Law had improved when he was in his position. But Acie Law never improved, and Teague is not improving. As Teague’s playing time has decreased, his confidence and his overall play have worsened. Unless Teague suddenly forgot the skills that allowed him to have those productive games early in the season, the blame for that falls directly on the coaching staff.

“I don’t disagree that we need better PG play, I just don’t make that statement and assume that Teague is the answer. ”

Neither do I, but my support for playing Teague has always been with one eye towards the future, not so much because the Hawks need him now. That’s why I keep pointing out how other good teams have developed young players while winning at the same time. It is very likely that in two years, neither Bibby nor Crawford is on the roster. Would it be better for the Hawks to wait until then to play Teague and allow him to play through his mistakes when he’s getting 35 minutes a game as a starter, or would it be better for him to make his mistakes now playing 15 minutes a game off the bench as a rookie?

When you equate playing a raw young player to “rewarding bad habits”, it tells me you are not willing to put up with him making mistakes on the court. But one way or the other, he is going to make mistakes. All young players do. In fact, all young people do, regardless of their profession. Should law firms shift their case loads to their more experienced attorneys the minute one of their younger ones screws up a case? Should Microsoft deny their first-year software engineers the opportunity to write new programs the first time they create a program with a bug in it?

“We thought similar things about Acie’s development last season and Sund made his choice and Acie has now been traded twice since leaving Atlanta and is well on his way to being Kevin Ollie. Sometimes the guys who have access to the goings-on at practice know more than we do.”

Maybe he’s on his way to becoming Kevin Ollie. Maybe he’s on his way to becoming Chauncey Billups, who was traded or waived by four teams before getting a chance to prove himself as the backup point guard in Minnesota. I think it’s worth pointing out that Golden State and Charlotte, the two teams that traded Acie after the Hawks did, have coaches who are notorious for stifling the development of young players. Look at what Don Nelson is doing to Anthony Randolph. Look at what Larry Brown is doing to DJ Augustin. Both of these players have produced, and produced big-time, in games when they have gotten a chance to play, and yet neither one is allowed to develop their game further by getting consistent minutes because their respective coaches are too short-sighted or too egotistical to allow that to happen on their watch. For that matter, who the hell knows whether Darko Milicic may have become a productive NBA player if he was allowed to play as a young player as opposed to being “nurtured” on the bench.

Maybe the most convincing argument to play Teague is to look at good teams that played young players that didn’t end up panning out. Jordan Farmar’s development has stalled after his second season. Should the defending champion Lakers regret giving him a chance to play? No, because it didn’t stop them from winning a championship.

The point is that there’s very little downside to playing Teague, whereas there is a huge potential downside to not playing him. Playing Teague for 15 minutes a game now, in the worst case scenario, may result in losing one or two games. Not playing Teague now may result in shattering his confidence and squandering a draft pick. And if there is one thing all four pro sports have in common, it is that teams that squander their draft picks never put together long stretches of winning.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 20th, 2010
1:00 am

I don’t know why Teague making mistakes is some huge crime when Bibby and Crawford routinely take bad shots and stop the ball on offense every game. A mistake is a mistake, no matter whether or not it is made due to inexperience. A Teague turnover won’t cost the Hawks a game any more than a Bibby brick or a Crawford cough-up.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 20th, 2010
1:03 am

“Unless you actually believe that had Teague played 15-20 minutes a game, he would have gotten the nod over Tyreke Evans or Stephen Curry.”

Do you think he wouldn’t have gotten the nod over Jonny Flynn or Jonas Jerebko?

Truthspitter

February 20th, 2010
1:08 am

Teague is garbage it has nothing to do with system when Ty Lawson gets in the game he makes things happen Teague trys to but he fails because he can’t finish. Teague’s only chance is to get a jump shot and Woody can’t shoot the ball for him, another bad pick. The future looks bad with a PG that can’t shoot and a SF playing PF that can’t shoot and a PF playing C that was to be a model. What a bunch of garbage I will never spend my hard earned money to go to any arena to watch this trash.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 20th, 2010
1:12 am

Darren Collison, who went two picks after Teague in the 2009 draft, put up a triple double tonight. I wonder what his numbers would be right now if he was a Hawk.

New Orleans found a way to get him minutes at the beginning of the season even though he was backing up the consensus best point guard in the NBA. Now that CP3 is injured, Collison has had to step in, and he has kept them from falling out of contention for the 8th playoff spot in the West.

I wonder what would happen if Bibby and Crawford were to get injured? Would Teague be able to step in and give us similar production? Would Woody sign Tyronn Lue off the Magic coaching staff to start ahead of Teague until he learns “basketball skills” in practice?

Truthspitter

February 20th, 2010
1:14 am

Teague sucks, he is too dumb. He can’t even run a pick and roll, I have watched him, he has no clue.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 20th, 2010
1:14 am

By the way, Collison also had 8 turnovers. The Hornets still won and Collison received the game ball from his teammates. The rookie made mistakes and they didn’t end up costing the team.

tjhook

February 20th, 2010
1:15 am

Najeh,

I read your link about Larry Hughes on the other blog, but we need another scorer since Crawford seems to be suffering from the shoulder injury he received. And since the Hawks don’t run sophisticated offensive sets, Hughes ability to be a man off the dribble would be highly appreciative once we play the elite teams. We NEED another scorer!! At least someone to make Marvin less necessary on the floor.

Truthspitter

February 20th, 2010
1:20 am

Marvin should have never been resigned. We should trade him for street hookers, he is worthless.

AG

February 20th, 2010
1:23 am

By failing to make a trade has doomed the Hawks. I also don’t understand why Woody did not play Joe Smith in the 2nd Half. He had a great first half, full of energy. With Marvin, Bibby and Mo struggling, play Josh, Joe and Hortford. That is the lineup that should have been in during the fourth quarter. I am trying to like Marvin, but it is very hard!

AG

February 20th, 2010
1:25 am

I know it is late, but MC is just not the answer for our beat reporter. He rarely responds to any questions we ask. It is like he writes a poor article, then goes to sleep.. dreaming he was covering the Miami Heat. A true beat writer should be very familiar with our Hawks.

Truthspitter

February 20th, 2010
1:29 am

I hate this soft fraud of a contender that we are stuck with. I will not be attending any games until they put a product on the floor than can truly win a championship.

P.S. Sund is just as dumb as Knight, no way Marvin should have gotten a deal like that. Good night people

Wabe

February 20th, 2010
1:36 am

I didn’t watch the game tonight, and won’t bother watching it on the DVR seeing that we lost.

Co-sign everything you just said Najeh. Very well put.

It seems that every team that took a PG in this years draft is seeing some kind of progress out of their pick. Stephen Curry, Tyreke Evans, Ty Lawson, Darren Collison, Brandon Jennings, Johnny Flynn, all of these guys are seeing meaningful minutes and are showcasing their ability. I personally feel that the Hawks haven’t given their best effort to get JT0 on the court. I’m with Najeh, what’s the downside? How much of a dropoff do you expect to see if JT0 took some of Bibby’s minutes? I feel this is especially true on nights such as this one where Marvin is nowhere to be found. The Hawks would be better off with a lineup featuring JT0 at the point, Jamal at 2, and JJ at the 3. He’s gonna make his mistakes, but that’s to be expected. It really makes no sense to delay the his development.

Truthspitter

February 20th, 2010
1:40 am

Teague sucks should have never picked him. We would be so much better with Lawson, Lawson makes things happen with speed, no one can stay in front of the guy. Teague does not have one special quality that will ever force Woody to play him and I don’t blame him.

iREPATL

February 20th, 2010
1:41 am

lol i like truthsplitter , very funny, seriously though, marvin sucks and bibby is washed up

Wabe

February 20th, 2010
1:45 am

Lawson was selected a pick before JT0.

truthspitter

February 20th, 2010
1:49 am

i know Lawson was before Teague unfortunately.

iREPATL

February 20th, 2010
1:50 am

i have no doubt in my mind if teauge was @ any other team under any other coach he’d be recognized like collison or even lawson. when we drafted him, all you saw on nba.tv was what a good pick up he was and how hes was gonna flourish with the rest of the hawks because of his ability to push n penitrate the paint. mike woodson gets on to the young players and kills theyre confidence wen then make a mistake, i dont think woody will b back next year

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

February 20th, 2010
1:52 am

Here’s the deal people. In the 4th quarter in several games we have went on crazy droughts and just looked out of synch. Why is this???

#1 – Woodson has no offensive sets
#2 – Since we have no offensive sets, Joe Johnson and Josh Smith end up trying to do too much. Josh Smith tries to turn into a guard that crosses people over and hits long jumpers. Thats not his game.

Joe Johnson dribbles himself into double teams and holds on to the ball too long and gets a horrible shot attempt or risky pass. Joe is talented so sometimes those shots drop, but he’s no Kobe, so he cant afford to do this as much as he does in the 4th quarter.

Woodson’s lack of offensive structure……….and our players lack of ability to perform in the ISO offense when the pressure heats up in the 4th costs us too much to compete with the big boys in a 7 game series. Crawford is the only one who shows up enough on a consistent basis in the 4th under woodson’s scheme. It’s not good enough!!!

Najeh Davenpoop

February 20th, 2010
4:36 am

tjhook, Larry Hughes would essentially be trying to fill the same role as Jamal Crawford. The Hawks need interior depth and a backup small forward (or a small forward to challenge Marvin’s starting spot, depending on your point of view). Hughes, a combo guard who can’t shoot, is neither of those things.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 20th, 2010
4:41 am

By the way, I’m not saying Woody’s unwillingness to develop Teague is a valid reason to fire him. I learned a valuable lesson after supporting Dan Reeves’ firing in 2003, that you should never look to fire a coach unless you have a better replacement in mind already and you can realistically get him. But among Woody’s flaws, his inability to develop young players may be the most fatal, even more than his lack of an offensive scheme and inability to make quick adjustments. Failure to develop young talent is a good way to make sure you never build a consistent winner in pro sports.

sam'l

February 20th, 2010
5:01 am

MacTown has it. That’s exactly what I see.

Watched Cleveland this week. Saw a couple of screens, a cut, a feint, and Shaq peeled down to the basket to make an unobstructed catch and layup. That is an offensive play, takes 5-7 seconds to put the players in position to get it done. Don’t see Hawks doing that. Unbelievable that the team has so much to offer and nobody to put them together offensively. No one to teach them that they have to get back on defence. No coaching ability. Unfortunately, Woodson is a gigantic problem. Sigh….probably a nice guy, probably tries hard, but just watching the clueless expression on his face night after night is too much. Put a tactician in there, and our beloved, enigmatic, and rudderless Hawks might truly go all the way… if they played like they had some brains and heart. Oh yeah, I forgot courage. At one time I had such a telepathic link with the Hawks, I could tell you whether they had won or lost just from the way I felt, without even hearing the outcome. Tonight’s game makes me want to break that link forever. So I’ll forget….and probaby come back for the next game, but tonight I feel terribly betrayed…High quality coach needed NOW…The smart teams are beating us…..and with far less talent, with reserves.

The Hawks play very differently on different days. One reason for this is the other teams dictate the style of play and the Hawks adapt to that. The Hawks need a perfectly sculpted set of plays that force the other team into playing into our strengths, so we can be consistent. In order to do that, we need a coach who can envision and create an offensive set, and then can envision how other teams will try to combat that and can come up with variations, develop players to match needed skills for those variations, train players to look for certain situations and tricks for all occasions, to look like they are getting fouled and deserve free throws. Woodson spends too much time staring in disbelief. It’s actually painful watching this.

I’ve gotta go……….Yikes!. .

what ever!

February 20th, 2010
6:30 am

The Hawks are soft in the middle. Horford is a Girl.

JeJe

February 20th, 2010
6:59 am

WHY DOES MARVIN START?

HE SUCKS

JeJe

February 20th, 2010
7:00 am

WHY CAN’T WE BEAT THIS TEAM ON THE ROAD?

DAMNIT.

GET RID OF MARVIN. HE SUCKS. JUST RELEASE HIM AND PAY HIM BUT DON’T LET HIM BE ON THE TEAM. HE BRINGS NOTHING TO THIS FRANCHISE

dap01

February 20th, 2010
7:28 am

I guess that Teague did not play due to Bibby’s brilliant game.

Woody is a very bad coach at developing a guard. He sucks!

Clyde

February 20th, 2010
7:35 am

Bibby, Zaza and Marvin are a waste of salary cap space. Instead of signing them fools we should have saved that space for this summer.

FIRE WOODY

ken

February 20th, 2010
7:49 am

The Hawks are not ready for the big time. The season is more than half over and coach Woody is still trying to figure out how to use his supposely improved bench. There are at least two starters who should be playing less minutes and coming off the bench but coach is hesitate to make a change. How can you not be ready to play the second game after the Allstar break.These guys need a shake up in the worst way. Coach Woody need to light a fire under his starters and make them earn their playing time just like he does with his bench. Terrible , terrible loss!

The Real Hawk

February 20th, 2010
8:00 am

Will be glad to see Woody and Marvin go!

NJ Hawk Fan

February 20th, 2010
8:04 am

It is a game such as this one that explains why management has not re-upped Woody’s contract!!

Please scale back Bibby’s minutes!

mrtomdan1

February 20th, 2010
8:11 am

The Hawks are my team but……..

Marvin doesn’t need to be a starter anymore

Bibby is showing serious signs of “aging”- when is he going to have a great game?

JJ is a great player- but enough already of the holding the ball for 14 seconds trying to get a shot

Why does it seem like Jamal doesn’t get the ball as much anymore?’

Al and Josh have been playing good of late despite the mistakes made sometimes.

Go Hawks!

AG

February 20th, 2010
8:12 am

Worst, the Hawks could have dealt Bibby, Marvin and a pick to the Clippers for B. Davis and A. Thorton. (the salaries and contracts all work!) Thorton goes for 21 off the bench leading the Wiz to victory!!! Marvin looked absolutely lost and the pass to Nash at the end of the game was a horrible decision.

richbrave

February 20th, 2010
8:38 am

AG

February 20th, 2010
8:12 am
Worst, the Hawks could have dealt Bibby, Marvin and a pick to the Clippers for B. Davis and A. Thorton. (the salaries and contracts all work!) Thorton goes for 21 off the bench leading the Wiz to victory!!!

All true, but lest we put AL THORNTON into ALL-STAR status in the NBA lets wait a bit. The WIZARDS line-up isn’t set yet, let alone the substitution rotations. FLIP SAUNDERS just threw him out there with the new guys minus ROSS because of fouls to see what would happen. Magic cannot be captured in a bottle and used at one’s pleasure. What happened last night in the phone booth is akin to first meeting a special someone. When the magic begins to wear off the next few dates, you begin to see the pimples on the real person. Once somethings established in the way of offense and defense by SAUNDERS, the other teams will go to work on it, and AL may not become the world-beater you envision here. But then like that first magic, it might. The old ZEN-master in me says I’ll wait and we’ll see.