Hawks Squawks: Hawks 110, Clippers 92
Al had his way with Craig Smith and the Clips. (AP Photo/Gus Ruelas)
Los Angeles– All the Hawks’ talk about refocusing after the All-Star break wouldn’t mean much if they lost this game. The Clippers were shorthanded, still spinning from recent trades and had played at Portland the night before. The Hawks were fresh, back at full strength and had a chance to start their four-game Western Conference trip in style.
– The Clippers were ripe for a beating, and the Hawks obliged. “This game was a challenge for our mental focus,” Smoove said. “We couldn’t worry about who they had playing.”
– The Clippers pushed the Hawks while losing at Philips Arena on Feb. 3 but this wasn’t the same team. Baron Davis sat out with a sore back. Marcus Camby was traded on Monday. Al Thornton and Sebastian Telfair were traded before the game on Tuesday.
– Al Horford, fresh off his first All-Star appearance, went for a career-high 31 points. He was 12 of 15 from the floor as the Hawks shot 54 percent and scored 70 points in the paint. “The guys were finding me and I was getting a lot of good looks,” he said. “I was finishing plays and making them pay.”
– No one paid more than Clips forward DeAndre Jordan, who had all kinds of trouble with Horford. Al didn’t look like he needed a break over the weekend. “I had two really good practices,” he said. “I felt good coming into the game.”
– The Hawks led from seven minutes into the game until the final buzzer. “We got off to a pretty good start,” J.J said. “One thing we’ve got to get better at is jumping on teams and putting them away really fast. We’re still learning to do that but we’re getting better.”
– “We knew we really couldn’t give this team confidence early or we’d be in for a long night,” Smoove said.
– Smoove had 20 points, nine boards and seven assists. As complete games like this become more and more common it shouldn’t be lost that he’s having a great year.
– Zaza was back from his hip injury and looked good while getting eight points and five rebounds in 18 minutes. He looked to have good lift in his legs, which is a good sign. Zaza said he felt pretty good, too. “I can’t say all the pain is gone but I will take this one,” he said. “I will keep an eye on it.”
– Jamal came back from a shoulder injury and had 12 points and five assists. “It’s a real good start to the trip,” he said.
– When the Clippers threatened to get back in the game in the second quarter, the Hawks turned up their defensive pressure. They got six of their 16 steals in the period and held the Clippers to 18 points. “In the second quarter we came out and established the way we wanted the game to be,” J.J. said.
– The Hawks next head to Phoenix for a Friday night game. They face the Warriors on Sunday and the Jazz on Monday. Energy shouldn’t be a problem. “We are fresh,” Zaza said. “The couple of days off really helped us.”
– I’m out, Hawks fans.
MC
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jerrywest
February 18th, 2010
1:15 am
Sund needs to get Ilgauskus here. Plenty of good players will be bought out.
kev
February 18th, 2010
1:16 am
first.
Mel
February 18th, 2010
1:24 am
I agree with jerrywest ……. We need to snatch Big Z after he is waived. I hope he feels insulted by the Cavs and does not consider them. Haywood is looking REALLY good for the Mavs. Good game by Al tonight.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 18th, 2010
1:25 am
Trade Marvin Williams for an actual duck to keep the bench lively and enterained on the sideline, thus, inspiring energized play through the entirety of a game. It’s a win/win situation.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 18th, 2010
1:29 am
Horford showed out tonight, hope he keeps it up. Bibby is becoming as useless as Mario West.
24 mins…2 pts. Marvin and Bibby have to go, trade them to the NETS just because they deserve to be on a team that is a complete laughing stock. It doesn’t matter who we get back, couldn’t be any worse.
Gilley
February 18th, 2010
1:34 am
I know we were playing the Clippers but we played great defense and it was good to see our bench play extended minutes to get real game-time minutes. I hope Woody keeps it up and our bigs continue to play big. Josh and Al were phenomenal.
Gilley
February 18th, 2010
1:36 am
Zydrunas is deeply rooted with the Cavs and if they win a NBA Finals, he deserves one . So I am confident he will re-sign with them.
The Truth
February 18th, 2010
1:40 am
AL HORFORD IS A BEAST!!!!!
cdog
February 18th, 2010
1:41 am
WORST THING COULD HAVE HAPPENED, HORTFORD SCORES 31 NOW RICK SUND IS LOOKING LIKE I TOLD YOU SO, WE HAVE OUR BIG MAN.AGAINST THE LOWLY CLIPPERS SUND? NO WAY.I USE TO THINK PETE “SALARY CAP” BABCOCK WAS THE WORST GM THE HAWKS EVER HAD BUT SUND HAS BABCOCK BEAT BY FAR AS THE WORST GM THE HAWKS HAVE OR WILL EVER HAVE.I GUESS TOMMOROW HE WILL ONCE AGAIN HAVE A CELL PHONE STUCK IN HIS EAR AND NOT MAKE A TRADE FOR THE MISSING BIG MAN THE TEAM NEEDS.HE’S SATISFIED WITH FINISHING 4TH AND MAKING IT ONLY TO THE SECOND ROUND AND OUT.THEN HE WILL BLAME MIKE WOODSON.SUND IS TERRIBLE.UNLESS HE DOES SOMETHING, HE NEEDS TO GO.BILLY KNIGHT, WHY DID YOU HAVE TO LEAVE?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 18th, 2010
1:50 am
T-Mac to the Kings, Kevin Martin to the Rockets, Nate Robinson to the Celtics.
sam'l
February 18th, 2010
3:18 am
Too me, the story is not that the Hawks won, but how they won. Hawks had 16 steals to Clippers’ 2. Hawks had 8 turnovers to Clippers’ 22. (Bibby had 0 tunoovers.) (Teague 4 steals in limited minutes). Clippers shot good percentage, had good rebounds and good assists. Smith and Horford had great all around games…Way to go!.
I really do think the Hawks are good enough to win the whole thing. They have to WANT IT though, more than anything. They’re not cocky, which I like, but they’re not very stable either. They need some ideas on Howard. Woody needs help making quick effective adjustments, even if they have to hire a coaching assistant to do nothing but that.
For some reason, I’m not scared of Cleveland….They ARE dominant…..but are they going to come through? .Has Cleveland ever come through? One thing I saw about Cleveland….they can when they need to run complicated plays involving everyone on offense. I would run Shaq out of the building by speeding up tempo.
This thing is still wide open….. Hawks could finish third win their first round, Orlando could be upset in the first round, leaving Hawks to eventually play Cleveland….maybe the Lakers, maybe the Nuggets.Mavs, Blazers,…OKC?
sam'l
February 18th, 2010
3:18 am
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sam'l
February 18th, 2010
3:19 am
Hmmmm….
Just wanted to say….look at how the Hawks won, on turnovers and steals.
vava74
February 18th, 2010
4:24 am
Ziggy has mentioned at the start of the season that he is considering retiring at the end of the year.
It is absolutely guaranteed that he will sign with the Cavs if he is waived.
Coach D
February 18th, 2010
6:49 am
Yeah, yeah!!!!! Taking care of business. If we can win 3 of 4 on this west coast swing, I think we’ll take it!
Senator Blutarski
February 18th, 2010
6:53 am
Glad to see the Hawks continue to rise toward elite status a mere 5 years or so after an awful 13-win season. It took me a lot longer than that to rise from being a party boy at the Delta House to becoming a Senator.
The Real Hawk
February 18th, 2010
6:59 am
Look around. We do NOT have the inside bodies to win against Cle and Orl. That will kill,us in the playoffs bouncing us in the 2nd round again. a 50 win season means nothing if we don’t advance past the 2nd round. That’s not progress, Sund!
Stoned Mountain
February 18th, 2010
7:31 am
Mac-Town’z Finest , you bad. And right. But actual ducks feel insulted.
Rock Preston
February 18th, 2010
7:55 am
If Clips buy out Drew Gooden…Go get him!!!
Section 303
February 18th, 2010
8:08 am
Good win last night. This morning, I am paying for staying up late to watch it.
They needed to get the crappy taste out of my mouth after the Heat game last week. If they can split on this trip, that would be huge. There are some very winnable games coming up at Philips.
Great day for the guards
February 18th, 2010
8:09 am
Jamal 5 assists
JJ…….2 assists
Bibby.5 assists
JT……2 assists
For just the second time this year the Big’s got more shot attemtps than the guards. Go big they did. This is how the Hawks should attempt to play every game. Their will be games JJ and Jamal will be needed to take over. But this team plays much better with with balance. 27 assists was the total. Did I mention Josh and Al had 11 assists between them? These guys look to pass. Nice to see the guards join them. Great team effort. Fun win.
GeeMack
February 18th, 2010
8:11 am
Why do hawks fans keep wanting to get scrubs to contend against superstars?
Big Z & Gooded can’t help against Shaq & Dwight.
Peachtree John
February 18th, 2010
8:21 am
When, oh when, will management get the great BIG man? True, our current team is athletic and they are learning to play together (absent Johnson’s insistence on 1 on 1 play), but small athletic players can’t beat big athletic players consistently.
Get the BIG athletic man.
The Grinch
February 18th, 2010
8:26 am
Bibby isn’t done yet, but he’s obviously close. I don’t know who Woodson thinks is gonna take over if he doesn’t start getting Teague some more minutes. But then again, I don’t know what Woodson thinks about anything, if he does at all. Glad to see them come out shooting though. Al and Josh looked great.
colorado bulldog
February 18th, 2010
8:36 am
Did Josh Smith officaly change his name over the break? Not once did you use his real name. I know who ‘Smoove” is but I can’t believe a journalist would write an article only using a nickname. So you write “Al Horford” instead of just “Al” when you first mention him as well as “Marcus Camby”, “Baron Davis” etc. But you never say “Josh Smith”? Incredible. To top it off you just use “ZaZa” and “JJ” as well. I know this is a blog but is this where we are going in journalism?
athhawk
February 18th, 2010
8:47 am
Trade Marv, bring in a true center. Al at 4, Smoove at 3, it’d be stout! I say Marvin and whatever we can give to get the big guy from the Clips. He’s pretty darn good, Kaman I think is his name.
POKECHOP23
February 18th, 2010
9:03 am
if it’s not broke, don’t fix it. the team chemistry is there. go hawks!!!!
PMC
February 18th, 2010
9:05 am
31pts from AL Excellent Work in the paint last night.
HOpefully a healthy ZaZa can reel in offensive boards like he did in last years playoffs. I like this start.
ILL-logical
February 18th, 2010
9:05 am
Good start to a long road trip.The real test will be the newly confiqured Mavs; can we beat them at home now that they are making what could be their last run at the championship?
DHD
February 18th, 2010
9:05 am
Marvin, Collins, rights to Childress and a first round draft pick for Amar’e.
Great day for the guards
February 18th, 2010
9:06 am
athhawk,
What center names can you come up with for the Marvin salary of 6.7 million next year. PS Kayman will make 11.3 next year.
That guy
February 18th, 2010
9:10 am
Colorado Bulldog = white russian with a splash of coke. GO HAWKS!!!!!!
Great day for the guards
February 18th, 2010
9:11 am
DHD
We will not have rights to Chills unless we sign him or if he gets an offer next summer we have the right to match the offer. If he does not recieve a good offer – look for him to stay in Europe. Besides who would want Collins.
darrell starks
February 18th, 2010
9:22 am
BIBBY, MARVIN FOR IGG, JRUE, THIS WILL MAKE THE HAWKS STRONGER.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
February 18th, 2010
9:24 am
MY BAD OUR FIRST BIBBY, MARVIN, FOR IGG, JRUE.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
niremetal
February 18th, 2010
9:26 am
HOW CAN PEOPLE KEEP TALKING ABOUT OUR “NEED” FOR A “TRUE” CENTER WHEN OUR CENTER IS A 23-YEAR OLD ALL-STAR? ESPECIALLY AFTER HE JUST DROPPED 31 AGAINST A SO-CALLED “TRUE” CENTER WHO IS ALSO AN ALL-STAR?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
February 18th, 2010
9:28 am
This trade will cover the hawks for next year just in case joe leave.
NEXT YEAR STARTER JRUE, JAMAL, IGG, JOSH, HORFORD.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!
Sautee
February 18th, 2010
9:36 am
colorado bulldog,
Does DOB on the Braves blog say “Larry Jones” instead of “Chipper”?
Did you know what MC meant?
Yes, you did, so why complain?
Sautee
February 18th, 2010
9:37 am
nire,
Big co-sign on the scream
darrell starks
February 18th, 2010
9:42 am
Bibby is shooting 40percent from the field wow, plus no defense.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
Mike is Back
February 18th, 2010
9:44 am
MC, GREAT beak down of the game…nice piece on Al…nice plug on Smoove.
Where is that lunatic that was haten on AL? Crow anyone, oh well…all the hard work AL has put in is really starting to pay off. We are Bless to have some really quality individuals on this team…from the coaches down to players. I think that gets lost some times under the dubious circumstance that the organization has endured. Great Win Hawks!!
I think we can take all four of these games as long as the guys adhere to their commitment to start the game fast. I want to see the Hawks put their foot on somebody throat and knot’em out early. lol
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Atticus
February 18th, 2010
9:44 am
I agree, a journalist using nicknames is ridiculous.
darrell starks
February 18th, 2010
9:46 am
Jrue is 6′4 point guard from ucla will be a beast in 2years from now, and igg wants out of philly.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
Atticus
February 18th, 2010
9:47 am
Sautee, Chipper is the name everyone uses, NOBODY ever calls him Larry and it is the name he is announced by, it’s on his babseball card etc……Josh Smith is not called Smoove Smith on TV, in Phillips etc…
NoCoach Blewitt
February 18th, 2010
9:48 am
Nice to see the Hawks dominate a game in which Carl and Joe only combine for 30 points …..Al Horford is becoming a BEAST inside (only player from UF in any sport I root for)
Hawk n the Ham
February 18th, 2010
9:57 am
Adding to MC’s stats on Smoove last night:
4 Steals
Hawk n the Ham
February 18th, 2010
9:59 am
Atticus,
When Josh Smith scores in Phillips, the announcer says:
J SMOOooove!!
Daniel
February 18th, 2010
10:05 am
darrell- I would love to get Igudala and Jrue is a nice young piece, but two things did you factor in Marvin’s BYC status in the trade? Second why in the world would the 76ers want to make that trade?
Melvin
February 18th, 2010
10:12 am
Hawk n Ham,
If he attend a game, he would know that…lol
niremetal
February 18th, 2010
10:13 am
Daniel,
The salaries involved are high enough that the trade would work under the cap. But if the Sixers are rebuilding, they sure as hell aren’t taking back two long-term contracts for Iggy.
Melvin
February 18th, 2010
10:18 am
Ok I’m going to continue with this circus. If T-Mac gets bought out, I want him in a Hawks jersey. Maybe he could play some useful mins, if not, I’m sure he will help with the tix sales….More revenue, more revenue… Just think if we provide the ASG with more revenue then they will invest more money into the team. Huh, what’s that? Did someone say the extra profit will go into their pockets. I don’t believe you…
NOTSO FAST
February 18th, 2010
10:18 am
The Hawks need 1 big man to do the dirty work around the basket in order to have a real chance in the playoffs.The future is now.
NoleRick
February 18th, 2010
10:18 am
Feels good to get the W, just winning last night said alot about this team. They didnt come out with the normal 1st quarter doldrums.
Dukester9
February 18th, 2010
10:22 am
Well here is my 2 cents if we can trade with the 76ers. I believe this gives us that big front center that we need. 15+ rebounds and defensive presence in the paint. I would love to see Dalembert, Horford,J Smith,JJ and Jamal in the last 5 minutes of a game in a playoff series.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ygy8mba
Daniel
February 18th, 2010
10:42 am
nire- That would be my point as well. Why would they want to make that trade?
Astro Joe
February 18th, 2010
10:45 am
If we’re signing broke down former dunkers who don’t win playoff games to deliver revenue, let’s go the cheap route and bring in Harold Miner.
richbrave
February 18th, 2010
10:59 am
richbrave
February 18th, 2010
10:57 am
MANNY T:
“Are all Wizards season ticket holders on suicide watch tonight? All of their big 3 gone, but they will have cap space if anyone wants to start a rebuilding project……………….”
Au contraire, mes amis, ARENAS lives to haunt the franchise for years to come. Think the HAWKS want him. No more BIBBY. Let’s play GM. I’ll trade you ARENAS and 25% of his salary for the next two years for TEAGUE and your first right now. What do you say?
TheYes Man
February 18th, 2010
11:04 am
AL HORFORD IS A BITCH!!!!
Wabe
February 18th, 2010
11:04 am
Before I write anything, where are all of the Al Horford haters at?
I tend to agree with most of what’s being said on the blog. We played inside out last night, without actually going back out. I know we were up by 10 for most of the game, but the lead seemed much bigger than it was simply because of the way we were scoring. We got anything we wanted. Easy bucket after easy bucket. The gaurds weren’t dominating the ball, but instead they were feeding Big Al and Smith inside. We have to continue to do that.
The bench played pretty well when on the floor as well. JT0 had his moments last night.
Overall, great win and a great start to the 2nd half of the season. I still think it’d be great if Sund could pull the trigger for another quality guy to come off the bench, but that doesn’t seem too likely – so we’re stuck with what we’ve got. But, at this point, I’m not complaining too much about that.
TheYes Man
February 18th, 2010
11:11 am
gaurds?
Melvin
February 18th, 2010
11:15 am
The former brokedown dunker must come with a prerequisite of at least 5 multiple all-star appearances, former scoring champ, previous own sneaker deal and under the age of 32….
TheYes Man
February 18th, 2010
11:15 am
Horford is trade bait!
TheYes Man
February 18th, 2010
11:17 am
Horford is being dangled,- ESPN!
TheYes Man
February 18th, 2010
11:21 am
Yea, looks like the hawks are going to get a center after all!
Daniel
February 18th, 2010
11:25 am
Melvin- I am not sure totally how this works but the Knicks got McGrady for his expiring contract which will give them more cap space to sign a superstar. I believe that he has to be on their roster for 30 days before they can buy him out and then another 30 before he can sign with another team. That is if the Knicks want the cap break, which clearly they do. So, I don’t think McGrady will get bought out.
TheYes Man
February 18th, 2010
11:25 am
The Hawks are about to pull off a three team deal…Hello mr Lopez, goodbye mr Horford… gee its so quiet on this site I can hear a pin drop-LMAO!
TheYes Man
February 18th, 2010
11:26 am
I CAN SEE FUUKING DANIEL WAVING GOOD BYE!
theZaZaguy
February 18th, 2010
11:26 am
Ryan also refers to JSmoove as employee #5. Usually after he inspects and then rejects something.
TheYes Man
February 18th, 2010
11:27 am
CHECK ESPN BABY, HERE WE COME CLEVELAND!
Daniel
February 18th, 2010
11:27 am
Hey “Yes Man”/Truth Serum- C’mon you don’t have to use insults and you don’t need to post false information. It is really sad. I hope you are able to pull out of this again, because you were pretty good there for awhile. Seriously.
TheYes Man
February 18th, 2010
11:34 am
Dude, I can speak for myself, what insults are you talking about?
Astro Joe
February 18th, 2010
11:41 am
Melvin, I thought you were about winning… TMAC is the antithesis of winning.
The reality is...
February 18th, 2010
11:45 am
Chris
February 18th, 2010
11:34 am
Jeff…..
I believe even if the Hawks make a move, they are not one player away from beating Cleveland. One player might get them past Orlando though if it was for a true “Center” so Horford could play his natural position. So if the Hawks make a move….I want a Center.
As for the Braves, I am not fired up about the Damon Offer. I think McLouth will be just fine in the leadoff spot. He steals bases, doesn’t strikeout a great deal, and has the power to sort of have that Ricky Henderson threat to hit it out of the ballpark. I am not comparing him to Henderson by any means, only that he is a threat for the homerun. I’d prefer Dye in the outfield if the Braves are going to bring in another player.
Tiger is the face of Golf whether he likes it or not. He is a celebrity whether he likes it or not. When you make mistakes as a celebrity you have to face the music. Stand up at the podium, set a time limit on the news conference. Read your statement and show some guts by answering a few questions so that this saga can start being put to rest.
AtlSouthside
February 18th, 2010
11:35 am
Yep, trade Marv & Al together
bibby/teague -PG
crawford – SG
Joe Johnson – SF
Josh Smith – PF
LEGIT CENTER – C
WISE
February 18th, 2010
11:15 am
your wrong we do need a true center. not for the regular season but to go up agianst shaq, howard, and bynum. without one we have zero chance in 7 games
Clay
February 18th, 2010
8:00 am
The Hawks need a legitimate big man to compete with the Magic and now the Cavs. So, yes they need help, but just can’t afford it, or won’t move anyone they could to get what they need.
Saabotager
February 18th, 2010
8:32 am
The Hawks are on their own no help in sight. They should have made a run at Gortat last year. The Hawks can still make it to the eastern conference championship, but an athletic big would get them over the hump. Woody needs to start preparing Collins.
DHD
February 18th, 2010
8:46 am
Big Z would look good as another backup C for the rest of the year. As for long term..Marvin, rights to Childress and a draft pick for Amar’e would work for me.
Go Hawks
February 18th, 2010
9:12 am
Hawks need someone to defend Dwight Howard, a strong veteran like Kurt Thomas, just to give six hard fouls and frustrate Howard. They also really need a better, more reliable backup small forward. Marvin is up and down and Mo Evans is starting to show his age.
Jeff Schultz
February 18th, 2010
9:13 am
All I’m saying: 1) Thanks; 2) Obviously contracts make deals difficult, particularly during the season. But deals can always be done, especially if you’re moving bodies. We just saw that in Cleveland; 3) You might be right about the money thing.
Ross
February 18th, 2010
9:23 am
The Hawks need a big man to be real contenders this year, but they just don’t match up well for trades at all. It isn’t that they don’t want to do something, it’s just that they can’t.
AtlSouthside
February 18th, 2010
9:28 am
Jeff, surely ownership knows that the Hawks need a legit Center. Orl: Howard & Gortat, Cleveland: Shaq & Jamison, Celtics: Perkins & KG.
We are athletic but we can win a game against Orlando (and possibly Cleveland) because he lack size in the paint. What options do we have to upgrade the front court? Or are our hands tied because of Joe Johnson’s pending free agency? And Crawford’s too?
L.Young
February 18th, 2010
9:32 am
The Hawks need to move Marvin Williams to the bench and pick up a Center (5). Horford needs to move back to his natural position of the 4.
JC Season Ticket next to ATL Bench
February 18th, 2010
9:35 am
Jeff,
Thanks for your insight. Ive been to every home game (4 season tickets)this year including preason(Larry Brown was ejected- still laughing). We HAVE to make a run at ZYDRUNAS. We need to RUN-trust me EVERY COACH WANTS TO RUN BUT WOODY & THEY ALSO DONT WANT TO DOUBLE D HOWARD ANYMORE BUT NOT WOODY. Woody better hope that we dont draw Charlotte in the Playoffs or he will be outcoached in that series.Al scored 31 last night running, HELLO can we draw some plays for HIM. I love Defense but we cant forget about OFFENSE. Thanks
AtlSouthside
February 18th, 2010
9:55 am
Perkins (Celtics) is a better actual Center than Horford. Horford is more of a finesse player, which makes him better suited for the PF position, rather than a true Center. Horford isn’t as physical in the paint as he needs to be…. Watch Horford against taller Centers, he cannot defend them.
Hoops
February 18th, 2010
10:02 am
You want a young BIG that has a huge future? Talk the Nets into trading Brook Lopez. Remember you have to give something up if you want a really great Center. Send them Horford and Childress. Now we can compete with the post players in the East!
Truth-Serum
February 18th, 2010
10:18 am
No Brainer!
Schultz, great subject with an easy answer. No brainer. That is if the management is serious about stepping up and competing for a championship.
Hoops, Excellent! Another no Brainer. As good a player and hard worker as Horford is, he is a power forward who cant or doesn’t play effective defense at the 5 spot. He is a liability at the basket. The key to beating the Hawks is to get to the rim on a half court set, so you can take Josh out of the equation and isolate Horford under the basket where he has been touched repeatedly. Horford cannot protect the basket from the interior and that’s exactly what a center MUST do!
We watched, J Oneal, Shaq, Camby, Stoudamire and other centers become available and made 0, zero,non, nil, nada,not at all, we made no freaking effort to get what was clearly our weakest link coming into the season and is still our most venerable spot.
Lets trade Horford for Lopez or Stoudamire and maximize our potential. Otherwise we will be having this same discussion this time next year.
Right now we are at a point where we should move on a real time basis and not wait to play catch up in the off season. That never works because every body gets better in the off season. Move while the chase is on!
Can you hear me now?
February 18th, 2010
11:50 am
Chris
February 18th, 2010
11:34 am
Jeff…..
I believe even if the Hawks make a move, they are not one player away from beating Cleveland. One player might get them past Orlando though if it was for a true “Center” so Horford could play his natural position. So if the Hawks make a move….I want a Center.
As for the Braves, I am not fired up about the Damon Offer. I think McLouth will be just fine in the leadoff spot. He steals bases, doesn’t strikeout a great deal, and has the power to sort of have that Ricky Henderson threat to hit it out of the ballpark. I am not comparing him to Henderson by any means, only that he is a threat for the homerun. I’d prefer Dye in the outfield if the Braves are going to bring in another player.
Tiger is the face of Golf whether he likes it or not. He is a celebrity whether he likes it or not. When you make mistakes as a celebrity you have to face the music. Stand up at the podium, set a time limit on the news conference. Read your statement and show some guts by answering a few questions so that this saga can start being put to rest.
AtlSouthside
February 18th, 2010
11:35 am
Yep, trade Marv & Al together
bibby/teague -PG
crawford – SG
Joe Johnson – SF
Josh Smith – PF
LEGIT CENTER – C
WISE
February 18th, 2010
11:15 am
your wrong we do need a true center. not for the regular season but to go up agianst shaq, howard, and bynum. without one we have zero chance in 7 games
Clay
February 18th, 2010
8:00 am
The Hawks need a legitimate big man to compete with the Magic and now the Cavs. So, yes they need help, but just can’t afford it, or won’t move anyone they could to get what they need.
Saabotager
February 18th, 2010
8:32 am
The Hawks are on their own no help in sight. They should have made a run at Gortat last year. The Hawks can still make it to the eastern conference championship, but an athletic big would get them over the hump. Woody needs to start preparing Collins.
DHD
February 18th, 2010
8:46 am
Big Z would look good as another backup C for the rest of the year. As for long term..Marvin, rights to Childress and a draft pick for Amar’e would work for me.
Go Hawks
February 18th, 2010
9:12 am
Hawks need someone to defend Dwight Howard, a strong veteran like Kurt Thomas, just to give six hard fouls and frustrate Howard. They also really need a better, more reliable backup small forward. Marvin is up and down and Mo Evans is starting to show his age.
Jeff Schultz
February 18th, 2010
9:13 am
All I’m saying: 1) Thanks; 2) Obviously contracts make deals difficult, particularly during the season. But deals can always be done, especially if you’re moving bodies. We just saw that in Cleveland; 3) You might be right about the money thing.
Ross
February 18th, 2010
9:23 am
The Hawks need a big man to be real contenders this year, but they just don’t match up well for trades at all. It isn’t that they don’t want to do something, it’s just that they can’t.
AtlSouthside
February 18th, 2010
9:28 am
Jeff, surely ownership knows that the Hawks need a legit Center. Orl: Howard & Gortat, Cleveland: Shaq & Jamison, Celtics: Perkins & KG.
We are athletic but we can win a game against Orlando (and possibly Cleveland) because he lack size in the paint. What options do we have to upgrade the front court? Or are our hands tied because of Joe Johnson’s pending free agency? And Crawford’s too?
L.Young
February 18th, 2010
9:32 am
The Hawks need to move Marvin Williams to the bench and pick up a Center (5). Horford needs to move back to his natural position of the 4.
AtlSouthside
February 18th, 2010
9:55 am
Perkins (Celtics) is a better actual Center than Horford. Horford is more of a finesse player, which makes him better suited for the PF position, rather than a true Center. Horford isn’t as physical in the paint as he needs to be…. Watch Horford against taller Centers, he cannot defend them.
Hoops
February 18th, 2010
10:02 am
You want a young BIG that has a huge future? Talk the Nets into trading Brook Lopez. Remember you have to give something up if you want a really great Center. Send them Horford and Childress. Now we can compete with the post players in the East!
Truth-Serum
February 18th, 2010
10:18 am
No Brainer!
Schultz, great subject with an easy answer. No brainer. That is if the management is serious about stepping up and competing for a championship.
Hoops, Excellent! Another no Brainer. As good a player and hard worker as Horford is, he is a power forward who cant or doesn’t play effective defense at the 5 spot. He is a liability at the basket. The key to beating the Hawks is to get to the rim on a half court set, so you can take Josh out of the equation and isolate Horford under the basket where he has been touched repeatedly. Horford cannot protect the basket from the interior and that’s exactly what a center MUST do!
We watched, J Oneal, Shaq, Camby, Stoudamire and other centers become available and made 0, zero,non, nil, nada,not at all, we made no freaking effort to get what was clearly our weakest link coming into the season and is still our most venerable spot.
Lets trade Horford for Lopez or Stoudamire and maximize our potential. Otherwise we will be having this same discussion this time next year.
Right now we are at a point where we should move on a real time basis and not wait to play catch up in the off season. That never works because every body gets better in the off season. Move while the chase is on!
Truth Serum
February 18th, 2010
11:53 am
I’m choking on the two nuts I spoke of yesterday.
darrell starks
February 18th, 2010
11:57 am
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU WANT TRADE HORFORD ITS OFFENSIVE SKILLS IS IMPROVING.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
February 18th, 2010
11:59 am
BIBBY AND MARVIN IS THE IDEAL TRADE 2 MAKE THE HAWKS BETTER AND A FIRST.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
Sautee
February 18th, 2010
12:00 pm
And THAT, ladies and gentlemen, was reality????? Pretty scary, huh?
This from the basketball brain that thought Zaza only got so many offensive rebounds because he was too lazy to get back on D.
And that rebounding was not part of post play.
geez.
Daniel
February 18th, 2010
12:07 pm
Sautee- Is it just me or are things getting crazier on here?
Sautee
February 18th, 2010
12:09 pm
Hey Im sorry I used your name maliciously Truth-Serum, Im not a man and this is what ive descended to, you ought to just piss on me like every body else does.
Hey every body, I wrote this.
Truth Serum
February 18th, 2010
11:53 am
I’m choking on the two nuts I spoke of yesterday.
darrell starks
February 18th, 2010
12:11 pm
Look we need a center but since we cant get 1 we must improve the point gaurd and small ford 2 be able 2 compete.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!
Astro Joe
February 18th, 2010
12:15 pm
Check out this quality interview. Go down to the section that says “Brandon and Woolvey” and listen to today’s interview with Ian Thomsen (SI.com NBA columnist). He has an interesting take on the Hawks relative to the Cavs. Definitely worth checking out.
Astro Joe
February 18th, 2010
12:16 pm
Oops, a link may be a good idea:
http://www.790thezone.com/instantreplay/
darrell starks
February 18th, 2010
12:17 pm
IS 2 LATE IGG WANT OUT OF PHILLY.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
February 18th, 2010
12:24 pm
I think if joe can see the hawks doing something 2 improve the team then he will stay, i would like to see JOE and IGG on the same team.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
Melvin
February 18th, 2010
12:29 pm
Good link Astro. Now can you get Mr. McDavid (or whatever the car dealer name) on the phone. Cash is King and we need an owner (I prefer a majority owner not a group) with deep pockets. Maybe we could win the title in 2020 with a richer owner…
Sautee
February 18th, 2010
12:31 pm
Speaking of not being a man, it seems that Truth-serum couldn’t take the TRUTH I posted, so he has to try and post as me.
COWARD!
Can you not fight your own battles?
Pitiful misfit.
Those who have read the blog through the years KNOW that the 12:09 post was YOU trying to get at me by stealing my handle.
Nice try, though. Actually it WASN’T so nice, but that’s what we’ve come to expect from you.
I MUS WRITE
February 18th, 2010
12:34 pm
INSIDE -OUT …. 31 points for Horford against an All Star Center- Get the man more touches. Josh had a good game as well -he really fills the stat sheet night in night out -Also his passing is rediculous this year he is a really good passer -These guys will only get better -I luv it
With all that said -I tend to agree with Stephen A Smith that the hawks have a good chance to make the ECF if they face they face Boston 2nd round but Cleveland and Orlando are just to much for us- We dont have the size up front to deal with Howard,Shaq,Gortat,Varijaeo etc…
Illgauskas would be a nice pick up -the man is a dam oak tree in the middle and he takes up alot of space – I really want Mcgee from Washington,but i dont know if we have the peices to make a move.
What did I say 2 weeks ago about Marvin, for every good game he has he disappears for 3 or 4, He did absolutely nothing last night -how the hell do u go two full quarters without scoring. O i almost forgot he got his shot air mailed twice for those keeping track-
Jamison is good but Amare would have really made me a believer that the CAVS could win it all- I just dont think they hv enuff to beat LA in 7 games. Watch out for Dallas as well. Butler and Haywood will improve that team IMO
Dam it couldnt we have atleast made an offer for Haywood, Our owners are really sum glass half full types if the think joe smith and zaZa are enuff to compete with the big boiz……
Daniel
February 18th, 2010
12:43 pm
darrell- I really like your idea of Igudala and Joe on the same team, and I know you worked out the money trade, but I still don’t see Philly being willing to make that trade because both Bibby and Marvin have long term deals.
NoleRick
February 18th, 2010
12:43 pm
I think the scariest thing I have seen all day regarding the trade deadline is Boston picking up Nate Robinson. The way he ALWAYS torches the Hawks, will make that 7 game series alot scarier.
Sautee
February 18th, 2010
12:47 pm
And 1 udder thang, I’m not as stupid as I look! I know the difference between Larry Jones and chipper Jones when i see Dem!
I MUS WRITE
February 18th, 2010
12:49 pm
Feed the post more…Inside – Out, 31 points against another All Star type talen is pretty good. Marvin disapeared again last night not to mention getting his shot air mailed twice for those keeping track…. Is it me or has Bibby’s shot been off dam near all year -The man is getting slower by the minute Marvin and Bibby are becoming liabilites on both ends of the floor –
I would have liked to get either Illgauskas or Haywood two huge guys to put in the middle while smoove and Horford go to work. We wont get out of the second round if we face Orlando or Cleveland -just dont have enuff size -and some of yall are dillusional if u think Joe Granddaddy Smith and ZAZA will be enuff to compete with the big boiz.
Sund should have tried to work this type deal
Uldric/Thompson for Bibby/Marvin
Also for those who were cry’n about flip last summer, The last game we lost when Jamal was out says everything- he is a really important part of this team. I would keep him over anybody not named Horford,Smith or johnson
I MUS WRITE
February 18th, 2010
12:54 pm
I would like robin lopez as well -i know he’s under a rookie contract but he is a guy I would like nex to Smoove/Horford
Jamal,JJ,Smoove,Horford,Lopez….for those thinking that there wouldnt be enuff fire power form our bigs -think again Marvin rarely shows up -Smoove could be alot more effective at the 3 playing with Lopez/Horford
Stupid is as
February 18th, 2010
12:57 pm
Enter your comments here
Daniel
February 18th, 2010
12:58 pm
IMUS- I don’t think Josh will be more effective at the 3. In the NBA today, the swing position has to be able to hit that corner three. Plus, that moves Josh away from what he does best on defense which is weak side shot blocking and rebounding. Don’t get me wrong I am all for trading Marvin if we can upgrade that position, but I think we end up hurting the team with Josh at the 3.
Stupid is as...
February 18th, 2010
12:59 pm
NoleRick its not just Robinson, in one who gets on the inside of the hawks post destroys us, and yes, boston will be much better than us now. We need a center!
Stupid is as...
February 18th, 2010
1:00 pm
Josh block well from any side and this aint football, there is no weakside. Its perimeter,wings, key, lane, and post.
Stupid is as...
February 18th, 2010
1:05 pm
Al Horford
2009-10 Statistics
PPG
13.7
RPG
9.30
APG
2.1
EFF
+ 20.60
Born: Jun 3, 1986
Height: 6-10 / 2.08
Weight: 245 lbs. / 111.1 kg.
College: Florida
Years Pro: 2
GeeMack
February 18th, 2010
1:08 pm
Daniel
Sometimes I think fans think just because they come up with a trade scenario the other team will just go for it.
That’s my only explantion on some of the ridiculous stuff I see here.
Marvin & Bibby for Igudala?
How about I sell the city of Philidelphia the Liberty bell? Think they’ll buy it?
Daniel
February 18th, 2010
1:10 pm
Stupid is(Truth Serum)- Please do not comment on my posts as you have violated several of the genltemanly rules of this blog. Weakside, btw is commonly used in basketball, to reference off the ball blocked shots and refering to player spacing on the court. So, I will ask you again nicely to please stop.
Daniel
February 18th, 2010
1:11 pm
gentlemanly
Stupid is as...
February 18th, 2010
1:12 pm
Sautee
February 18th, 2010
12:47 pm
They are the same person Sautee.
Astro Joe
February 18th, 2010
1:14 pm
Melvin, my memory could be bad, but wasn’t McDavid in the car dealership business? GM cars if I remember correctly? Now, I could be wrong, but if I’m right, I kind of doubt that dude has enough money to purchase a basketball and a pump these days.
We need to see if Oprah and Tyler Perry have any interest in owning a basketball franchise.
Stupid is as...
February 18th, 2010
1:18 pm
Daniel I dont know anything about truthserum? But I believe this is a free site and I can comment on anything posted here.
What I was trying to point out to you is that you miss use the term in trying to apply it to Josh and Al.
In basketball terms it refers to the side away from the ball in reference to a guard match up Not the low post position.
Weakside – (Basketball): Definition
Weakside; This drill is designed to teach the denying of a guard to forward pass and when the ball is passed guard to guard, the drill teaches players to fall in the lane while playing weakside defense. ”
I hope this is truthserum.
vava74
February 18th, 2010
1:21 pm
Daniel, Sautee,
Why bother?
One day he says that we need a Bill Laimbeer type of C (who averaged 0,9 blks per) and the other he says that Al does not guard the paint because he is #18 in blks…
Why do you try to even find reason? Just either ignore him or make fun of him. That about it!
All in all, he is just this blog’s jester!!!
Stupid is as...
February 18th, 2010
1:26 pm
When a team is on offense in their opponents’ end of the court, the “strong” side is the side of the court where the ball is located. The “weak” side is the side of the court opposite the strong side (away from the ball). Imagine that there is a line that extends from the basket to midcourt, dividing the court into two equal parts. If a team starts their offense with the ball on the right side of the court, this is the strong side. However, as the ball gets passed, if it ends up on the left side, then that becomes the strong side. When a point guard sets up his team’s offense, his teammates run the play using both the strong side and the weak side.
I hope this helps, Ive read where people are trying to miss use this to the low post which has a different set of protocols.
Fundamentals
February 18th, 2010
1:28 pm
Great game last night. Seems our 2 power forwards overwhelmed the competition. Looking forward to Friday night’s game.
Daniel
February 18th, 2010
1:28 pm
I know vava, but I can’t stand for the ignorant comments. I have been very polite and ignored 99% of this stuff. I have just respectfully asked for him to not comment on my posts, because 1) I have no respect for a man that continues to use profane language 2) Does the whole name change game as if everybody doesn’t know who it is 3) In general has no idea about basketball. Doesn’t seem like a lot to ask for.
Daniel
February 18th, 2010
1:30 pm
Stupid is/ Truth Serum: thanks for acknowledging in your 1:26 post exactly what I was talking about and admitting that you are wrong.
Traceman
February 18th, 2010
1:36 pm
I just don’t know what the heck some of you are watching. What exactly is it about Smoove’s game that makes ANYONE think he would be better at SF than PF? Putting him at SF would take him farther away from the basket, which is where he is CLEARLY most effective on BOTH ends of the floor. In addition, he is a HORRIBLE shooter, a below average perimeter defender and below average ballhandler for the SF position. He is an exceptional athlete ANYWHERE on the floor but that is the ONLY thing in his game that says SF. Putting him at SF would do to him EXACTLY what has happened to Andrei Kirilenko. He would go from being an All Star caliber player to being an overpaid guy that doesn’t fit with the rest of the team.
The reality is that both Smoove and Horford are PFs with Horford being FAR better at Center than Smoove is at SF. It’s not even close. Therefore, the team is doing EXACTLY what it should do in starting them together in the front court.
jean
February 18th, 2010
1:38 pm
TEAGUE JUST GOT TRADED FOR MARCUS WILLIAMS
Stupid is as...
February 18th, 2010
1:38 pm
Im glad I could help.
Daniel
February 18th, 2010
1:41 pm
Traceman- we have no place for things like logic on this blog. How dare you make reasonable basketball observations!! You must stop.
good stuff man…
Stupid is as...
February 18th, 2010
1:48 pm
by the way, im not truth-serum, daniel
Traceman
February 18th, 2010
1:49 pm
GeeMack,
I hear you. Philly wouldn’t even give up Iggy (and Dalembert) in a deal that would allowed them to acquire Amare’, why would Marvin and Bibby be a better package than that? The same folks that call Marvin and Bibby garbage are the same ones who think they can be traded for All Star caliber players.
nash
February 18th, 2010
1:50 pm
bibby is old we have that but guys like him have away of showing up in playoff games and changing the series so I hope he is resting up for that- if it is a small forward the hawks are after maybe they could get josh howard from washington if he has played any this year. I think last nights game was about showing that palying against a team that is laying down for the rest of the year the hawks bench can look great and another younger big man would help if he can be motivated the right way because joe smith is so old he does have any teeth to be long in
jean
February 18th, 2010
1:55 pm
teague and mario west traded for marcus williams
Mike is Back
February 18th, 2010
1:59 pm
Astro Joe, good link…its great to be relevant again…gone are the dark days when we only came to blog to discuss who the Hawks would draft in the lottery. Now we are a known commodity around the NBA. No wonder we are starting to get so many trolls, goons, and goblins wanna bees from other team’s site. Heh heh
Truth-Serum
February 18th, 2010
2:02 pm
Stupid is as, you’ll have to ignore Daniel, he like others ,(the infamous Bubba crew)have a tendency to paint anyone who disagrees with them as Truth-Serum. It makes it easier for them to live with one person having a different view than to acknowledge that they are far from the main stream, by conceding most people outside of this blog disagree with them.
So let me guess, you disagree with Daniel and or made a comment that Hoe ford was weak defensively, and the next thing you knew you were slammed and worth of death.
Is that about right?
Daniel
February 18th, 2010
2:02 pm
jean- what? where are you getting that?
Stupid is- yes, you are.
Truth-Serum
February 18th, 2010
2:04 pm
What about W h o r e f o r d for Amare straight up?
Stupid is as...
February 18th, 2010
2:13 pm
Truthserum, I see, my bad, I didnt men to get in the middle of something, you are absolutely right. Id made a comment about weakside being a guard thing but the way they use it on this site it should be in football. Ive read guys trying to say that Josh covers Als “weakside” and thats why Al allows alot of point under the basket. The post position is not a weakside/strong. The center plays with his back to the basket on offense or defense. Weak side only refers to the side that the ball enters the court from a guards perspective.
And you are right, next thing I knew I was slammed. Anyway, thanks, I guess its not a bad thing to be associated with you. Good luck and have a nice day.
Rod from College Park
February 18th, 2010
2:18 pm
Daniel,
“IMUS- I don’t think Josh will be more effective at the 3. In the NBA today, the swing position has to be able to hit that corner three. Plus, that moves Josh away from what he does best on defense which is weak side shot blocking and rebounding. Don’t get me wrong I am all for trading Marvin if we can upgrade that position, but I think we end up hurting the team with Josh at the 3.”
While I understand your point, there is no way possible Josh would be worse at the 3 than Marvin. It is utterly impossible. Marvin can’t hit the open 3 either. Josh would simply adjust his game to play the position. Real players adjust and conform. Josh has proved to me that he has too much pride and competitive spirit to be a liability on the floor wherever he plays. He can’t hit the 3, but he can penetrate and finish. Marvin can do neither.
MaddenKing
February 18th, 2010
2:20 pm
Whats up with all you guys talking about trading Bibby. Im all for trading Marvin but not Bibby. Bibby is the perfect PG for this system which is the reason WHY WE’VE BEEN WINNING EVER SINCE WE TRADED FOR HIM, we was losing before we got him and unless we have Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Steve Nash, or Jason Kidd, we would go from being an elite team in the East to an average team in the East with Teague at the helm, Bibby is also our best three point shooter and he’s a clutch player, he’s just havent had to be clutch cause Crawford has been taking all the clutch shots for the Hawks, but he was our clutch player last yr, not Joe, when Crawford wasnt here, he was the clutch player at Sacremento, ask Kobe and Phil, when the gm is on the line Bibby can take the shot to win the gm and he’s shown it time and time again through out his career, The Hawks will not trade Bibby which is why they resigned him when Cleveland was trying to get him and he will be here until Teague is ready to take over which he is not right now.
KevinA
February 18th, 2010
2:21 pm
Astro Joe
The link ended up being a Tiger story.
Truth-Serum
February 18th, 2010
2:22 pm
No problem, Stupid is as…, just beware there are alot of trolls on this sight and whatever you do dont join the “Bubba Crew”, they will try to recruit you.
Have a nice day
bigdave
February 18th, 2010
2:28 pm
Astro…
open the link, scrolled down, and they were talking Tiger Woods…
Fundamentals
February 18th, 2010
2:28 pm
Any word on signing any of the folks that will be bought out or waived in the next few weeks? There should be a few quality players looking for a home.
Keep up the focus and hard work on the West Coast Swing.
bigdave
February 18th, 2010
2:28 pm
KevinA…
i got the same thing
bigdave
February 18th, 2010
2:39 pm
Tyrus Thomas to the Cats for Acie… Flip… and future 1st
http://www.hoopsworld.com/HeadlineStories.asp?lc=NBA&c=1&TEAM_ID=&PLAYER_ID=&hd=20100218#STORY_24318
bigdave
February 18th, 2010
2:41 pm
they now have cleared enough cap room to offer someone a Max…
like i said before the season started… everyone is going home…
Wade to Chi…
Bosh to Dallas…
we’ll have to wait and see if we can land D12 in 2012
Jody
February 18th, 2010
2:42 pm
To me, it doesn’t matter if Josh is playing SF or PF. As long as he attacks the basket, he will be successful.
Fundamentals
February 18th, 2010
2:44 pm
Should be interesting to see how the trades shake out. Still wondering about possible waivers later this month.
Thomas seems like a good pick up, but what draft slot did Chi have?
bigdave
February 18th, 2010
2:46 pm
i can see it now..
before he bolts that summer we send fill ins and a proven all-start in Horford back to central Florida for Dwight in his prime…
lol..
Fundamentals
February 18th, 2010
2:47 pm
I’d like to see the Hawks experiment with going big with Randmo, Collins & ZaZa at center which will puch Horford and Josh up a slot. Should give both excellent help defenders a chance to move and help while a 7′ big clogs the paint.
Josh can handle the 3 as long as Bibby, Crawford & Joe are hitting shots. Marvin might benefit from being option 2 on the 2nd.
Fundamentals
February 18th, 2010
2:48 pm
Big Dave,
You’ll have to incorperate Rondo so you can get their AAU team back together. Might also add Morrow from GS for a shooter.
Melvin
February 18th, 2010
2:49 pm
Hopefully, Law will get some playing time behind Rose. And Flip adds another team jersey to his collections/wall….
bigdave
February 18th, 2010
2:51 pm
Fundamentals…
the Cats sent a future 1st to Chicago… i think its an excellent pick up for Bobcats.. and Chi did what they wanted to do all along which is clear up cap room… face it, they werent going to do anything this year. so now they have chips to play with… draft picks, and plenty of bread to throw at whomever they want… even Joe.
not to mention a solid trio of Rose, Deng, Noah… they like the kid from So Cal so Thomas was expendable…
Melvin
February 18th, 2010
2:53 pm
The Cats will have a glut of big men now. Thomas, Chandler, Diop, Nazr and Alexis…
bigdave
February 18th, 2010
2:55 pm
wow…
i must say that this has been a pretty productive trade deadline… one of the best ive seen in a minute. we might have done a little damage this summer but teams are putting themselves in pretty good shape for the stretch haul and long run… its some pretty savvy executives out there…
Melvin
February 18th, 2010
2:56 pm
5 more mins until the trade deadline is over. Can the Hawks pull out a deal at the 11th hour and 55mins mark…lol
Grandad
February 18th, 2010
2:59 pm
Sybil:
Don’t leave, I just got here. I just read your in depth analysis of floor spacing. Did you get that from ‘Wikipedia’.
Here is a list of cool hoops terminology that you can define for us:
[this should keep you busy for a while/researching ESPN's b-ball 101]
*slip
*duck in
*stretch 4
*slash & kick
*zipper cut
*flair
*pinch post
*shell drill
*backdoor
I swear after looking @ this jargon, I thought it was a list of porn terminology.
Press Clippings: 2/18/10 « Clippers Press Room
February 18th, 2010
2:59 pm
[...] Hawks Squawks: Hawks 110, Clippers 92– Atlanta Journal Constitution [...]
The Truth
February 18th, 2010
3:06 pm
It is 3:06 PM, now can we all return to common sense?
Fundamentals
February 18th, 2010
3:07 pm
Big Dave
I’m not knocking the move on either side. I just wonder what pick they delt. It was obvious AC wasn’t working and Flip’s scoring wasn’t as impt as bigs for the playoffs for the Bobcats. Chi is definitely building for the offseason.
jay dubu
February 18th, 2010
3:15 pm
The Hawks played well, and beat a team that they were expected to beat. Keep in mind, as stated by the Blog Miester, that the Clippers were playing without 4 of their starters on the court.
This game has to be a jump off point for the Hawks to turn up the Heat on the rest of the East. Because the Hawks didn’t make a move at the trade deadline, they have to get superior play from the guys already on the team.
It will determine how far they go this year. I think that they’re only a year away from the NBA finals. It depends on what Sund does after this year.
JerryWest
February 18th, 2010
3:19 pm
Are we the only team that can play pick and roll with our PF & C as well as our C & PF?
Keep the guards stationed outside the arc, and send our big small forward to the board.
KevinA
February 18th, 2010
3:24 pm
MaddenKing
You could add many more PG’s to the list that are much better than Bibby. I agree he brings intangibles like leadership, good locker room guy and a good player for Teague to learn from.
Taking care of the ball this year , he is overrated. Most possessions he just hands off to JJ and Jamal. He does not run the offense and most possessions, once he hands off, he does not even touch the ball. Our great league leading turn over stats you can attribute to the entire team doing a good job. JJ and Jamal handle it most – just keeping it real.
3 PT…….made……….%……NBA rank
Jamal……. 95………..378……48th
JJ…………..90……….366……58th
Bibby……..75………..368…….61st
At this point Bibby is not our best 3 PT shooter either in percentage or volume. The problem with Bibby is his 2 PT shot. Not to mention the fact he cannot guard anybody. He has dropped to 7th option. He need to be playing with the second unit. We need a 5th guard not named Mario.
bigdave
February 18th, 2010
3:29 pm
Fundamentals….
i never thought you were.. but i dont know how they do the future pick consideration.. i guess that wasnt disclosed…
The Truth
February 18th, 2010
3:46 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen, introducing The NEW Hawks Playoff Killer
Truth-Serum
February 18th, 2010
4:18 pm
Jeff Schultz
Going after Ilgauskas would be right move for Hawks
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Gilley
February 18th, 2010
3:35 pm
1st. Not going to happen but wishful thinking
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Mountain Man
February 18th, 2010
3:40 pm
Jay-uff, maybe ewe kin straighten this out fer me. Washington traded fer this here feller. Now, they’s a-gonna pay him a bunch o’ money ta go back and play fer Cleveland? Thet don’t make no sense.
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February 18th, 2010
3:41 pm
Why sign with Atlanta only to be eliminated by Cleveland, when you can re-sign with the Cavs and win a ring? I’d say he will pass, especially since that is the only city he has ever known in the NBA and I’m sure has a home there, etc.
Why get Ilgauskas? I vote that the Hawks just go out and sign Arvydas Sabonis, I’m sure he has something left in the tank.
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Tale of Woe
February 18th, 2010
3:47 pm
The Hawks don’t strike me as a very strategic team (or one with any more money to spend). No way do we go after the Big Z. He will resign with Cleveland.
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Fed Up With Wren (Again)
February 18th, 2010
3:47 pm
Hey, Jeff, can Cleveland really re-sign Z and have him for the playoffs? I think they would have to wait 30 days since they just traded him, right?
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Give the man some credit
February 18th, 2010
3:55 pm
SIXTH!
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Truth-Serum
February 18th, 2010
4:01 pm
Jeff I hope this isnt some political posturing from Sund to keep the Hawks fan base appeased. With us thinking that we… he tried, when he actually doesn’t intend to make it happen. Its like you said earlier. You can always make a deal if you want to . I agree 100%
Good reporting, keep us posted Jeff. I feel better already.
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Jeff Schultz
February 18th, 2010
4:04 pm
Mountain Man — Because Wizards don’t care about Ilgauskas. They’re rebuilding and just wanted the expiring contract. They’d rather buy him out for less, and I’m sure he doesn’t want to play in D.C., either.
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Jeff Schultz
February 18th, 2010
4:04 pm
ChippersLoveChild — A very good question.
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Truth-Serum
February 18th, 2010
4:04 pm
Al would be a better small forward than Josh, Josh is a true power forward and one of the best in the game. We could trade Horford and increase our bench strength.
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Jeff Schultz
February 18th, 2010
4:04 pm
Fed Up With Wren — Not aware of a 30-day rule.
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Mountain Man
February 18th, 2010
4:05 pm
Thankee Jay-uff. You’re a goodun, no matter what JSS sez.
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Jeff Schultz
February 18th, 2010
4:05 pm
Truth Serum — I think Hawks/Woodson really want him. Whether they get him is another matter. I’d think Cavs would be favorite.
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Schultz Do Your Homework
February 18th, 2010
4:06 pm
0% chance Ilgauskas ends up in ATL. Actually -0%. He is re-signing in CLE. He is a good friend of Cavs GM Danny Ferry. Ferry would not trade him with out knowing that Z would be coming back. Plus he has no reason to leave. This has been very carefully orchestrated for months. There is no “mix” of teams. These teams might be delusional, like you, but I assure you its not happening.
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Truth-Serum
February 18th, 2010
4:06 pm
Are you agreeing that we cant win a title with Ilgauskas, Schultz?
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Truth-Serum
February 18th, 2010
4:11 pm
Hummm, good insight but going back to your previous statement, deals can be made. How much time would he get with Cleveland? Even less now. What would his role be with Jamison and Shaq on the front line? Hed get much more burn here and hed be right in the hunt for the title too. Besides, how much more money can Cleveland spend to keep him happy? I actually think we could make a very good presentation.
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BRUCE LEVINSON
February 18th, 2010
4:13 pm
Where the heck have you been?
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BRUCE LEVINSON
February 18th, 2010
4:15 pm
Got to get you some ZA ZA Pa trool lee e ah.
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Truth-Serum
February 18th, 2010
4:17 pm
* Nate Robinson
* #2
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2009-10 Statistics
PPG
13.2
RPG
2.40
APG
3.7
EFF
+ 12.13
Born: May 31, 1984
Height: 5-9 / 1.75
Weight: 180 lbs. / 81.6 kg.
College: Washington
Years Pro: 4
How did this guy get 100 points at the rim against us?