Atlanta Hawks at Clippers, AKA Back to Work
Los Angeles–Another beautiful day in So Cal. Sorry to keep blabbing on about the weather but, man, since leaving Miami I’ve been desperate for some real winter sunshine (not that fake Atlanta sun where you see it but it has nothing to do with the actual temperature). I thought I would get some real weather in Dallas but of course they had record snow. So, yeah, I’ve been soaking in the So Cal sun.
I’m sure the Hawks have, too, but Woody likes the way they’ve been working while on the clock. The Hawks ran and ran and ran on Monday, then went hard again Tuesday. If any Hawks came back from the break lethargic, Woody shook em out of it.
“Guys are focused and there’s been no whining for all the running and stuff we’ve done,” Woodson said. “Everybody is just doing what they have to do.”
Hawks won't have to deal with him again. (nba.com)
— The Clippers traded Marcus Camby to Portland for Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake during the day Tuesday and then lost at Portland that night. Camby didn’t play for Portland and Blake and Outlaw didn’t play for the Clippers though those two are expected to be available vs. the Hawks tonight.
You might recall it was Camby’s 20 rebounds, not All-Star Chris Kaman’s unconscious 7-for-21 gunning, that gave the Hawks the most trouble during that hard-fought 103-97 victory on Feb. 3.
Apparently neither Camby nor his old Clippers teammates are happy he’s gone to Portland. Clippers GM Mike Dunleavy said the Clippers could make another deal before tomorrow’s deadline.
– According to statistician Harvey Pollack, Hawks players missed 14 games due to injury before the All-Star break, the lowest total in the league. Only four Hawks players have sat out games with injuries, the second-lowest total behind Minnesota’s three. Pollack, the director of statistical information for the 76ers, annually produces the “NBA Statistical Yearbook” so his stuff is gold.
This tidbit brings us back to Stan Van Gundy’s contention last month that the Hawks have had “no adversity whatsoever” when it comes to injuries. I’m thinking you should knock on wood, Hawks people. And don’t blame me if a Hawks player pulls up lame tonight.
– Zaza is mourning his Georgian countryman, Nodar Kumaritashvili, the luger who died during an Olympic training accident on Friday. He said he didn’t know Nodar but his wife did, and that such connections are not uncommon in a country with a population of 4.3 million.
“It’s a small country, so it felt like my friend died,” Zaza said. “Just like me, when he is outside the country he is representing the country, especially at the Olympics. I can imagine how excited he was. It’s so sad.”
– Slam highlights ‘Nique’s All-Star weekend. ‘Nique loves the kids.
Late adds:
– As Najeh and other blog people note below, the Cavs have agreed in principle to a three-way trade that gets them Antawn Jamison and Sebastian Telfair. It looks like Cavs got tired of waiting on the Suns to pull trigger on a deal for Amare Stoudemire and moved on to Jamison, who is the so-called “stretch four” they’ve sought.
Like Amare, Jamison isn’t a tough, defensive-minded type but he doesn’t need to share the post with Shaq and he’s another guy to convert those open looks created by LeBron. Yep, the Cavs are scary good.
– Almost forgot this disclosure: I’ll be flying with the team to Phoenix after tonight’s game and also on to San Francisco and Salt Lake. It’s not the normal procedure for newspaper writers, at least not for the last three decades or so, but it’s something the AJC is trying on a trial basis for this trip. If not for this arrangement I wouldn’t be here due to the significant costs involved with sending a writer on the road. The Hawks didn’t like that, so that started a conversation with my bosses about getting me on their plane. We’ll see how it goes.
I still plan to cover the team like normal but it’s something you need to know. That is all.
– Talk amongst yourselves, Hawks fans.
MC
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Najeh Davenpoop
February 17th, 2010
6:52 pm
Three-way Cavs-Clippers-Wizards trade is done. Cavs get Jamison and Sebastian Telfair, Washington gets Al Thornton, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Brian Skinner and a first round pick, and Clippers get Drew Gooden. The race for #2 in the East is on, now that #1 is all but locked up. Hopefully the Heat don’t get Amare.
Also, first?
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 17th, 2010
6:56 pm
Proof that hawks ownership and management is delusional and unfit???
Mario West
Yeah, lets add a guy to the roster who’s physical abilities and talent (lack thereof) REALLY has no beneficial effect on the team at all……besides committing fouls and being overly aggressive which is mistaken for having such great defense.
This is the NBA not youth league basketball dealing with fragile children emotions, who cares about rewarding people for hustle IF (keyword: IF) that hustle still doesnt mean anything or provide something beneficiary to the team.
Get that scrub out of here for someone that can atleast be useful.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 17th, 2010
6:59 pm
Do the Clippers have fans???
A Hawks Fan
February 17th, 2010
7:02 pm
Najeh, where do you see confirmation of that trade? I”m not seeing it anywhere…
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
February 17th, 2010
7:11 pm
A Hawks Fan, I googled “three way cavs clippers wizards” and all sorts of articles popped up,
“The Cavaliers, Clippers and Wizards have completed a three-way trade that sends Antawn Jamison and Sebastian Telfair to Cleveland; Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Al Thornton to Washington; and Drew Gooden to Los Angeles.”
from the nypost
Truth-Serum
February 17th, 2010
7:15 pm
“You might recall it was Camby’s 20 rebounds, not All-Star Chris Kaman’s unconscious 7-for-21 gunning, that gave the Hawks the most trouble during”
That was Bibby’s fault? was that Al’s man?
A Hawks Fan
February 17th, 2010
7:15 pm
OK, thanks Mac. It just popped up on ESPN a second ago too.
Melvin
February 17th, 2010
7:20 pm
Joe says they dont need anyone else. He better not cry at the end of the season again for veteren help….
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20100217?sub_id=DHxMLImvdvZIx&folio=30#pg30
JeJe
February 17th, 2010
7:21 pm
Cavs just got Jamison. Some jerk said “it may not be what we hoped for” on the Cavs board. What a spoiled brat.
We haven’t had a trade as good as that besides the Jamal trade in about 1.5 decades
niremetal
February 17th, 2010
7:23 pm
Heh…come on, Melvin. What do you expect him to say?
Melvin
February 17th, 2010
7:24 pm
With the Wiz getting Thronton, maybe they will buyout Mike Miller then the Hawks could sign him. Then again, bad idea b/c I’m sure another team would sign him and we in Hawks land will come up with 1,000 reasons why we don’t need Miller on our team.
Melvin
February 17th, 2010
7:27 pm
Nire,
Along as it’s not, “we need veteran help at the end of the season”….
RIGGED
February 17th, 2010
7:28 pm
Man this league is so RIGGED, how can these teams make trades every season regardless of contracts (Mavs, Cavs)
niremetal
February 17th, 2010
7:29 pm
Melvin,
You missed the point. What do you expect him to say now? Do you really think he’d say “we need to make a move” right before the stretch run? {layers talk after the season about what their team needs to do to improve. No one does it mid-season.
Astro Joe
February 17th, 2010
7:30 pm
Why on earth would Joe question ownership’s commitment to bring a championship to Atlanta in the summer?
JeJe
February 17th, 2010
7:35 pm
Joe is so wrong. We’re as deep as anyone we will face?
is that why Delonte scored as many points as him in the playoffs last year? a freaking average NBA Player scoring just as much as our “superstar.”
Cleveland has ridiculous depth, as does Orlando
niremetal
February 17th, 2010
7:37 pm
AJ,
To pressure them to make a move to improve the team. Happens all the time. A-list stars like Shaq (well, back when he was an A-lister) and Kobe have done it, as have B-listers like Pierce and McGrady. This particular offseason, he might do it to hint that the Hawks need to make a move to bring the team closer to a title or else he might bolt elsewhere (that was Kobe’s tactic before he exercised his option a couple years back…it didn’t work, but he tried). In reality, I doubt he will. His critiques in the past were all “we need more veterans and depth.” He hasn’t talked about team needs since after the Celtics series, I don’t think.
RIGGED
February 17th, 2010
7:39 pm
Trade Morris to Wizards for J. MaGhee since Wizards are just giving players away and it will be a HUGE upgrade over Morris who just doesnt look like a NBA player
Big Head
February 17th, 2010
8:03 pm
The Hawks needed Camby, but don’t seem to have the purse to make that kind of deal happen. Locking up Marvin looks like a bad move now even though everyone said it was really smart at the time. There are no attractive pieces to be moved. Cash and maybe Mo are the only things the Hawks can offer. If Teague had played more and was ready for leadership now, you could possibly offer up Bibby right now given how Jamal fills in, but that didn’t happen. I believe in miracles and it will take one to get past the second round of the playoffs regardles of where we end up.
Melvin
February 17th, 2010
8:09 pm
Watching the Pistons/Magic game. The way Ben Wallace is playing, he either found the fountain of youth or Mark McGwire Pharmaceutical dealer….
vava74
February 17th, 2010
8:14 pm
The cavs just traded away a member of theor most effective 5 player combinations (top 2 in the +- combos).
Ziggy was still very effective and although limited, his production was important. I just hope that they don’t just buy him out and he re-signs with the cavs (and if it does, the leagux should really put an end to this type of crap)…
jerrywest
February 17th, 2010
8:23 pm
Sund needs to convince the owner that JJ won’t stay unless he see some commitments from the owners.
http://www.realgm.com/src_feature/1624/20100217/atlantas_inactivity_could_lead_to_johnsons_departure/
jerrywest
February 17th, 2010
8:26 pm
Sund – call Ilgauskus. If Wiz buys him out, he would get more playing time here than with the cavs.
darrell starks
February 17th, 2010
8:36 pm
JERRY WEST im with you on this one can we get llgauskus if wizzard release him.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
Astro Joe
February 17th, 2010
8:38 pm
nire, I was being sarcastic, based on today’s frequent posts about how the ASG aren’t “going for it”. Funny, fans can complain about what they perceive as a lack of ownership support but heaven forbid that a player do the same.
Logo, he may get more time here but he’d have a significantly better chance to win a ring there. Like I said on the earlier blog, Hawks, Magic and Celtics are playing for the second chair in the East… Stern could go ahead and send the Cavs to the Finals once the Jamison trade is complete.
Astro Joe
February 17th, 2010
8:41 pm
Let me get this straight, you play your entire career for a team that is now the odds on favorite to win a title, but instead of returning to your home for a decade where they may have the biggest parade north of New Orleans, you think he should come to Atlanta? Well, I guess there’s nothing wrong with being an exuberant fan. Don’t be too disappointed when Z returns home to Cleveland. Sund should spend more time chasing someone like Gooden or another “nomad” who doesn’t have deep roots with a contender.
vava74
February 17th, 2010
8:43 pm
Astro,
this goes for you:
“…My take: He’s too nice of a guy. It’s both the best and worst thing about him. If you ever played basketball, you know there’s one rule with big guys: Make sure they touch the ball enough. If they don’t get enough touches, they get cranky. They stop running the floor. They stop setting good picks. They stop crashing the boards. Big guys are like women — they need affection, they need to be stroked every so often, and if you ignore them, they start to resent you. …”
the above is part of Bill Simmons column in ESPN, and in this case about D. Howard. However the relevance relates our a discussion in the past on the negative effects of the lack of touches on big men’s game.
O'Brien
February 17th, 2010
8:46 pm
If Big Z gets bought out, he will probably end up back in Cleveland. And if Drew Gooden gets bought out, he will probably end up back in Dallas (although I heard Charlotte mentioned in the rumors too).
JJ is not the kind of guy to put Management on notice that they need to do something to keep him. But, that also does not mean that he wont sign somewhere else if he he thinks they have a better chance of winning a championship, especially if he’s getting more money.
This just in.
February 17th, 2010
8:48 pm
Fire Sund!
Everyone knows that the key to the hawks post games lies in having a formidable low post presence and he did absolutely nothing to to make that happen., Weve watch J, oneal, shaq, camby and amare go by with out so much as a gesture. This team will win 50-55 game which is well a head of the preseason projections, however the season is anti climatic because we already know that the hawk wont make it out of the second round. Why buy tickets to a movie youve already seen or no the ending too?
What a snow job. How about getting a “real” center on this team
Astro Joe
February 17th, 2010
8:49 pm
Vava, yeah I read that yesterday. I know the reality may be different (a player engaged on both sides of the floor is better than a player engaged in one), but I don’t have to accept the premise that <8 FGAs may lead to <5 boards.
Maybe Kurt Thomas and/or Elston may also be bought out if the attached goes thru.
http://my.nba.com/cms/110678/salmons_to_milwaukee
niremetal
February 17th, 2010
8:50 pm
Does anyone actually think Big Z would choose us over Cleveland? Come on, now.
This just in.
February 17th, 2010
8:51 pm
Excuse me “astro joe” Hawks, Magic and Celtics playing for second? I dont think so. I think its better described the Celtics and Hawks are playing for third.
This just in.
February 17th, 2010
8:55 pm
Melvin, yeah, I have to agree, looks like hes taking the same steroids A-Rod admitted to taking once he knew there was evidence proving he was a steroid user.
Melvin
February 17th, 2010
8:59 pm
Nire,
I may not be a Bumble Bee but this sound like buzz words coming from Joe to me….
“More than anything I just want to win,” Johnson told RealGM. “This is my ninth year and I’m in search of a championship. I definitely think we can do it in Atlanta. But I think we have a lot more growing to do.” – Joe Johnson
O'Brien
February 17th, 2010
9:17 pm
Hawks will have a tough time with JJ this offseason, because a team that loses out on Wade will come after JJ. After all, he is the second best free agent SG on the market, and he will end up costing less than Wade too.
If the Bulls do end up trading Salmons to Milwaukee for 2 expiring contracts, can one of our cap experts (Manny T, nire, whoever) give me an idea of what kind of contract they might be able to offer JJ this offseason?
When was the last time the Hawks played? Wednesday? Thats too long to go without Hawks basketball. I hope it will be well worth the wait tonight as we put a beatdown on the Clippers.
Astro Joe
February 17th, 2010
9:20 pm
Javale NcGee has been stuck on Flip’s bench most of the season and finally got a start with the Wizards now tanking (officially) the season. Youngster has so far responded with 14/11/5 blocks with about 2 minutes left in the game.
Astro Joe
February 17th, 2010
9:25 pm
OB, as I understand it, Chicago will be able to offer a max deal if that Salmons trade goes through. If the Knicks acquire TMac, they will have enough cap space for one max deal and another contract that may be around $2M short of max. Wizards should be close to having room for a max contract also. I’m sure that several sites will have a full list tomorrow evening of who cleared what type of space from this week’s activities. Joe will have plenty of offers to consider… there is no doubt about it. Of course, we still get to make the best offer (financially) to him.
RIGGED
February 17th, 2010
9:27 pm
JaVelle McGee, started for the 1st time this season for the Wizards and has 14pts 11rbs, been saying all season long we should trade for this guy when he was rotting on their bench, remember his name when we play them and most will say man this guy would make a great Hawk
Astro Joe
February 17th, 2010
9:29 pm
McGee finishes with 14/11/5 in 23 minutes. I’d say that’s a good night. But a little short of Blatche who goes for 33 & 13. A little hope for down-trodden Wizards fans everywhere.
jerrywest
February 17th, 2010
9:29 pm
Astro – Staying with his family at his own home, and a 30 day break may do him some good.
BUT,
Ilgauskus needs minutes for his next contract. He has a perfect role in Atlanta. No other team can give him what we can give him.
With Cavs, he has to fight for minutes with Shaq/Jamison/Powe/AndyV./Hickson.
Astro Joe
February 17th, 2010
9:39 pm
Logo, I doubt that potential playing time with strangers trumps a probable championship ring with friends and family in a place you’ve lived for 10+ years. I think we should bark up another tree next week.
If Sund adds one more roster spot (he’s on record as saying he won’t even do that), but if he does, I would probably choose a PG over a big… all things being equal. We already have 18 fouls behind Horford.
jerrywest
February 17th, 2010
9:43 pm
what if we offer Ilgauskus a 2 year deal?
Astro Joe
February 17th, 2010
9:47 pm
Logo, I don’t know Z, but seriously, how could he possibly leave the Cavs after all that time and not return when they are soooo close to another Finals appearance? It’s not as if he can’t get another contract from them (or someone else) next season. Do you really think he would walk away, now? For what would likely be a close-to-minimum salary guarantee next season?
TM
February 17th, 2010
9:48 pm
Well, the Hawks lose out on the trade that would have best fit them. Antwan Jamison to the Cavs…
Nice job Atlanta Spirit! Stand pat and do nothing and piss off your fan base.
When the best team in the east, winners of 13 in a row… get better.
This is an example of why someone like Joe Johnson would not return… By doing nothing, the Atlanta Spirit send a HUGE message to their players. Unfortunately, it’s not a good message.
Hoops
February 17th, 2010
9:56 pm
What about this trade?
Hawks trade J. Smith & Bibby to the Suns for A. Stoudemire & G. Dragic. This trade works on the ESPN Trade Machine. The Hawks would give up 17M and take back 18.2M. These contracts are good for two years instead of 3-4 years that Bibby and J. Smith have. Would this trade allow the Hawks to overcome the big 3 in the East or does it really not change where we are now?
RIGGED
February 17th, 2010
10:02 pm
Smith has crazy upside and is still so young, I wouldn’t trade him in any Stoudemire deal
terrell
February 17th, 2010
10:06 pm
Cavs got Jamison to match up with Rashard Lewis. He killed them last year.
Hoops
February 17th, 2010
10:07 pm
Rigged,
Does trading for Stoudemire assure that Joe Johnson resigns with the Hawks?
RIGGED
February 17th, 2010
10:09 pm
No because you have to sign both players
Geemack
February 17th, 2010
10:10 pm
RIGGED
Beacuse these team are not afraid of the luxury taxes. They are more concerned with winning a title.
AG
February 17th, 2010
10:11 pm
I think the Hawks have to make a deal. What about B. Davis for M. Williams and M. Bibby. The trade will work! Give the a couple of picks too!
Big Ray
February 17th, 2010
10:11 pm
Ilgauskas coming here. We’re still dreaming about scraping somebody else’s barrel. Unreal. Not that Z can’t play, not saying that at all. But why do we wait until they’re 45 to try and get them?
AG
February 17th, 2010
10:12 pm
They have to make some type of deal. Get J. Hayes out of NJ. Get Thorton from the Wizards. There are deals the Hawks can make to improve.
Hoops
February 17th, 2010
10:12 pm
I just feel that the Hawks would be sending a real message to Joe that they will go after the necessary players to win a Championship by trading for Stoudemire. I’m just not sure though that Stoudemire is much of a upgrade over J. Smith.
RIGGED
February 17th, 2010
10:12 pm
Hawks management don’t want to spend the money, I’m all about winning titles myself, screw a luxury tax lol would love for them to resign Joe and try to lure Wade or Bosh here also
Rod from College Park
February 17th, 2010
10:12 pm
I realize now whiIe this at home with Marvin Williams is on that one of these clowns who keeps supporting Marvin is actually his dad. I’m sorry Mr. Williams, but your son is just not that good.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 17th, 2010
10:15 pm
For those of you who asked how I knew about the trade already, if you have a Twitter, I strongly suggest you follow some of these NBA writers. Adrian Wojnarowski on Yahoo Sports (@WojYahooNBA) tweets everything that happens. Sekou comes correct with breaking news pretty often too. And from what I know Chad Ford and Marc Stein on ESPN do pretty much the same thing.
terrell
February 17th, 2010
10:15 pm
Everyone’s always hollering “run, run ,run. This team is built to run.” And now they want slow azz Ilguaskas? Whatever.
RIGGED
February 17th, 2010
10:16 pm
Face it teams that win in the NBA titles other than the Spurs spend the money to get the right players, Hawks management can make a great statement by trying to bring better players here to help Joe and resign him
Hoops,
I agree, wouldn’t trade Josh for Amare, not much of a upgrade and you lose much more on Defense
RIGGED
February 17th, 2010
10:17 pm
Rod from College Park
Too Funny
Rod from College Park
February 17th, 2010
10:24 pm
Please don’t make us relive the Marvin Williams draft again.
Rod from College Park
February 17th, 2010
10:26 pm
No Billy don’t do it. Take Chris Paul or Williams. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Astro Joe
February 17th, 2010
10:31 pm
LOL @ Rod. I’m shocked that you are even watching that show, I figured it would be much too painful for you to watch.
terrell
February 17th, 2010
10:32 pm
Rod, think about this lineup: Deron Williams , JJ, Chills, Smoove, Horford(possibly). What coulda been. lol! I picked Deron, because he’s the one they actually chose Marvin over. CP3 wasn’t even in the discussion. Haha!! Btw, would you rather have Chills at sf this year? I would. We let the wrong sf get away, and then turned around and signed the other one for 4 freakin years.. Another Sund blunder.
Steven A.
February 17th, 2010
10:35 pm
Move Al Horford…Pleeaassee!
Anyone who suggest we trade Josh Smith obviously knows “nothing” about basketball. Smith was truly
the only bonafide allstar on the Hawks roster. Rest of those clowns, except Jamal Crawford are simply
“Dow Jonse-rs”, up one day, down the next. If the general manager was smart, he should be shopping
AL ” tito” HORFORD. We all know he and Josh are truly both 4s. You do not need 2 STARTING 4s.
bigdave
February 17th, 2010
10:36 pm
lets get it..
Rod from College Park
February 17th, 2010
10:40 pm
terrell,
I always liked Chills better than Marvin. I never liked Marvin’s game. Watched Ismail Muhhamed destroy him in college. Never understood the hype.
STRETCH
February 17th, 2010
10:42 pm
ATL IS A JOKE!!!!
bigdave
February 17th, 2010
10:47 pm
Marvin with the “Mail Man”
O'Brien
February 17th, 2010
10:51 pm
All 5 Hawks have scored already. Thats good. And Marvin with a style dunk. And a nice drive. Can he keep it going? maybe he heard his “At Home with Marvin Williams” was on TV right before the game.
I sure wish Josh would stop taking those shots. He takes about 2 of those every game.
BONE
February 17th, 2010
10:58 pm
Damn Josh
Najeh Davenpoop
February 17th, 2010
10:58 pm
For those of you who doubt Horford’s ability, there is no other center in the league who can run the floor, handle the ball, and throw a perfect dish on a fast break like he just did on that play.
O'Brien
February 17th, 2010
10:58 pm
Rod,
Marvin has a good start to the game. I hope he keeps it up.
I like how the Hawks have been passing the ball.
Blast
February 17th, 2010
10:58 pm
Great defence, Hawks! Great runouts! Keep it up!
Melvin
February 17th, 2010
11:01 pm
The Clippers announcers are killing Bibby. They said if Andre Miller was on the Hawks instead Bibby they would be a mucher better team b/c of his speed and passing ability. They said Miller is two years older than Bibby but seem to keep his level of play up whereas Bibby has seem to gone the other direction… They also mention that Marvin seems to missing in action sometimes although he started this game off well…
BONE
February 17th, 2010
11:03 pm
ZAZA sucks
BONE
February 17th, 2010
11:04 pm
They’re right Andre Miller is better than Bibby
niremetal
February 17th, 2010
11:05 pm
JJ just doesn’t sell contact at all. I respect a guy who doesn’t flop, but “highlighting” the contact that he draws would get him to the line more and JJ just can’t/won’t do that.
Clyde
February 17th, 2010
11:07 pm
Zaza averages 3 illegal screens a game
bigdave
February 17th, 2010
11:08 pm
Larry Drew: put Joe (Smith) on him
Coach Woodson: “Joe?” (stupid face)
Melvin
February 17th, 2010
11:09 pm
Why does Woody continue to take a timeouts at the of 1st qtrs? My goodness, he took a timeout just to have Jamal shoot a turn around 3pt shot of the corner….
Rod from College Park
February 17th, 2010
11:09 pm
Melvin,
Hopefully they will tell us something we don’t know.
O’brien,
Really I can’t put any stock in this game. This is like a glorified scrimmage. Clippers are terrible after the trades. Marvin usually excels in these type of games.
Melvin
February 17th, 2010
11:10 pm
Nire,
I been saying that about Joe all year. Now duck before bigdave hit you with a roundhouse punch…
Najeh Davenpoop
February 17th, 2010
11:12 pm
What the hell is that thing growing on Brian Skinner’s face?
O'Brien
February 17th, 2010
11:12 pm
Woody calls a TO with 3.7 seconds left. Do we really need a TO to run a ISO?
And with MC and Bob Rathburn talking about Hawks only missing 14 games combined due to injury, I will not be surprised when somebody gets injured within the next few games. Knock on wood, I hope I’m wrong.
And what was that play that Woody drew up? How many of his plays coming out of timeouts have worked (especially with so little time left)?
Melvin,
Although Andre Miller signed for $7 mil per year (compared to Bibby’s $6 mil), Miller’s contract is only 2 years (team option 3rd). I would have preferred a deal like that for Bibby. That way we could trade his expiring contract during next season if he doesnt produce.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 17th, 2010
11:13 pm
Andre Miller may be better than Bibby, but I find it hard to believe that he’s any quicker. Even in his prime, quickness was never his strong suit.
Melvin
February 17th, 2010
11:14 pm
Baron Davis said he didnt want any part of this foolishness in Clipper land today. So he decided not to come to work today…
Melvin
February 17th, 2010
11:16 pm
Najeh,
Quick or not, Miller has made a living driving into the paint….
Webster's Dictionary
February 17th, 2010
11:17 pm
Irrational – [e - ra - shon - al] (adjective) – Descriptive of persons who think the Hawks MUST make a trade.
Thanks to Sund’s offseason work, the Hawks are one team that does NOT need to make a trade. Watch how the Cavs, Celts, & Mavs will have setbacks while trying to integrate new teamates. Our familiarity will be an assest in a playoff series against Cavs. I like our team! Go Hawks!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 17th, 2010
11:21 pm
One of Al Horford’s main goals this offseason should be to develop his mid-range jumper to Chris Kaman’s level. If he knocked that down with consistency out to 16-17 feet it would open up so much for him and the Hawks offensively.
Blast
February 17th, 2010
11:21 pm
I always feel good when Josh is in the game. Teague played well, more relaxed.
BONE
February 17th, 2010
11:21 pm
LOL @ Zaza’s sorry self
Blast
February 17th, 2010
11:22 pm
Zaza with yet another dumb foul. Oh, my. Double sigh…..
terrell
February 17th, 2010
11:23 pm
Zaza is absolutely horrible!
Blast
February 17th, 2010
11:24 pm
Are the Clipper fans rooting for Hawks or are just sad when Hawks miss a run out? They seem to be having more fun watching the Hawks than their team. Must be one of the reasons Hawks are drawing a better crowd on the road than at home.
bigdave
February 17th, 2010
11:26 pm
Josh w/ Drew Brees like accuracy…dropping it in right over Kaman…
Melvin
February 17th, 2010
11:33 pm
The Clippers broadcasting crew are goshing over every Hawks play… Too Funny. I like these guys…
Blast
February 17th, 2010
11:33 pm
And some “so called fans” actually doubt Horford’s heart and capabilities. I don’t believe they are true Hawks fans. Al is schooling Karman right now.
Josh is getting even better with his passes. In fact, his overall game is blossoming.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 17th, 2010
11:40 pm
Excellent low post move by Josh. When he uses his left hand he is terrific.
Melvin
February 17th, 2010
11:40 pm
A Jason Collins sighting….(in the 1st half)
Astro Joe
February 17th, 2010
11:47 pm
Hawks defense was very crisp in that half (save for a few possessions). I was straight giddy when Joe Smith made his first jumper, but naturally, his next clanked off the front rim. Everyone seems to have an extra bounce in their step.
Astro Joe
February 17th, 2010
11:51 pm
Oh yeah, and Horford’s hands are working again. Dude catches everything that comes near him. He had problems after that Houston game a few eeks ago. Tonight, he looks to be back to his usual sure-handed form.
And despite the above comments, even Zaza looked like he came to play tonight.
That Kaman ain’t no joke… I’d love to know if we really had a trade made to acquire him and if the ASG truly nixed the deal. His game would like butta with our squad.
Blast
February 17th, 2010
11:53 pm
Joe said it right. Cleveland is just plain ass greedy. They already have the best player in the game, they have the best record in the league, yet they are not satisfied. They just keep adding players and re-tooling. How many All Stars are on their team right now? I understand you have all the $$ to spend, but that does not make it right!
It’s not over till the end of season, though. Remember how Cavs ran through the league last year and still came up short in the playoffs? We’ll see if they are able to keep James by winning it all.
I like Hawks efforts so far. Defensive intensity, getting into passing lanes, reading the offence and picking up multiple steals. These guys came in focused tonight. Now they have to keep it up!
BONE
February 18th, 2010
12:00 am
why does josh shoot those???????
Najeh Davenpoop
February 18th, 2010
12:03 am
In the case of Cleveland, LeBron James literally doubles the value of their franchise, according to Bill Simmons. Even if they have money problems (which I don’t know that they do), if I were running that team, I would be doing everything to try to keep LeBron happy. It’s not greed when the possibility of losing the best player in the game and half the value of your franchise is staring you in the face.
Blast
February 18th, 2010
12:08 am
I know the main reason Cavs are spending all that bread is to make sure they can resign James. So if they can make those trades, spend all that $$, then good for them. Just hope they get the returns for it.
Wabe
February 18th, 2010
12:11 am
How can you be watching tonites game and suggest moving Horford or Smith?
Wabe
February 18th, 2010
12:12 am
I think Cleveland was thinking a bit more about that Laker team they’d see in the finals a bit more when they started trying to make a move. I don’t think they made the move to get out of the East, but to better their chances to win it all.
BONE
February 18th, 2010
12:15 am
Zaza took 15 steps lol
BONE
February 18th, 2010
12:17 am
Al is puttin in work
richbrave
February 18th, 2010
12:18 am
WIZ win their first (as a new team) against one of the worst (T-Wolves). JAMISON gone, Z in. GOODEN almost finished his coffee before leaving. Al THORNTON and BRIAN SKINNER along for the ride on D.C. transit.
The blow-up is almost complete. Only the ultimate irony remains – GILBERT ARENAS’ contract is intact. I’m sayin’ he stays and he plays for the next two years until his player option year. The club will be hoping he re-establishes himself as an elite league player so he will have options that don’t need to be exercised in D.C.
BTW, the luxury tax was eliminated according to my calculations by this latest trade. IRENE POLLIN breathes a sigh of releif as the asking price to TED LEONSIS skies.
Oh, and the WIZ get the CAVS first, somewhere between pick # 28 and 32.
Blast
February 18th, 2010
12:18 am
And 1 AL! Go for a career high tonight! Shut up your haters!
Josh
February 18th, 2010
12:22 am
al is seriously killin’ it
Big Ray
February 18th, 2010
12:22 am
Al is straight ballin’. I won’t discount anything because it’s against the Clippers. Yeah they’re missing Camby, but nobody ever feels bad for anybody in this league.
Wabe
February 18th, 2010
12:23 am
I HATE MO EVANS
Useless guy. Can’t stand him.
Sid
February 18th, 2010
12:25 am
13-20 from the line at the end of the 3rd .
buick59
February 18th, 2010
12:26 am
can’t even put away a bunch of scrubs. truely pitiful. GOING NOWHERE
BONE
February 18th, 2010
12:30 am
Al is a monster and it’s halloween
BONE
February 18th, 2010
12:31 am
LMAO @ MArvin gettin decked by Al. Duck down!!!!!
BONE
February 18th, 2010
12:34 am
Damn Chris Kaman is ugly
bigdave
February 18th, 2010
12:37 am
2k series video game numbers…
68 pts in the paint…
Ree Roe
February 18th, 2010
12:40 am
Really proud of Al tonight…I think him playing well in the AS Game will do wonders for his confidence the rest of the season. Good way for him to start off the 2nd half of the season.
-REEleasing the Roe!!!
doc
February 18th, 2010
12:44 am
buick 59 go back in your hole, 20 points up into the mid fourth. yah pretty sloppy.
Rod from College Park
February 18th, 2010
12:47 am
6′10 and you get your shot thrown by a guy 6′5. Marvin is awful.
Ree Roe
February 18th, 2010
12:53 am
@ Rod, Duck Williams has got to be the most awkward looking/playing SF in the NBA today. It seems like Mighty Quack gets his shot swatted moreso than any other 6′10 player I’ve ever seen. Quacks Up…
-REEpeatedly Roe!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 18th, 2010
12:56 am
4 steals for Teague in 10 minutes of playing time.
Astro Joe
February 18th, 2010
1:05 am
I wonder if Teague plays that matador defense in practice, allowing his man to get by him and then poking the ball away from behind. That certainly isn’t the way to learn how to play defense in the NBA. It worked tonight for some steals but more often than not, it will expose his bigs to potential foul trouble. With his quickness, it’s inexcusable for him not to move his feet and instead rely on his hands to play the ball. Bad technique that needs to change.
Nice win!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 18th, 2010
1:29 am
Kevin Martin to Houston, T-Mac traded.
terrell
February 18th, 2010
9:39 am
Did Horford just put up 30 on a guy who alot of people on this blog wanted to trade him for? Defensive presence my azz. lol! Yeah, Horford’s the problem. lol!
terrell
February 18th, 2010
9:40 am
Blast, if you have all the $ to spend, it DOES make it right.
terrell
February 18th, 2010
9:42 am
$ rarely buys championships. Just ask Karl Malone and Gary Payton. I almost forgot they even went to the Lakers. Worked for the C’s, but it usually doesn’t.
terrell
February 18th, 2010
9:44 am
The Yankess have been spending trillions for years and it took hadn’t won a ring in 10 years, before last year.