Hawks Squawks: Spurs 105, Hawks 90

– Well, what can you say about that? The Spurs were desperate after three straight home losses for the first time in forever, and so they took the Hawks to the woodshed for 30 minutes. “They were very hungry for a win and you felt that vibe from the start of the game,” Jamal Crawford said.

– Still, it was shocking to see the Hawks so slow-footed and overwhelmed in what’s supposed to be their kind of game. “We love that kind of tempo, but I guess we weren’t ready to play,” Smoove said.

– “We just didn’t come out and match their intensity,” J.J. said. “They were more hungry.”

– The Hawks trailed by 15 after one quarter and lost by 15. They played the Spurs even for three quarters but, other than that rally early in the fourth quarter, it sure didn’t feel like it.

– The Spurs scored 16 of their 36 first-quarter points at the rim and had 18 fastbreak points. “We gave up so many layups to start the game it was like a track meet,” Woody said. “We are supposed to be the team to get up and down the court and get layups. (Tony) Parker really pushed the tempo.”

– The Spurs tied their season-high for points in a half with 66, and the Hawks tied their season-high for points allowed in a half. “I put it on myself, part of it” Al Horford said. “I didn’t come out aggressive enough.”

– Tim Duncan had a career-high 27 rebounds. “He had a man’s game,” Woody said.

– Horford, meanwhile, made strong moves to get clean looks at the basket but couldn’t put the ball in the hole. He was 2-for-10 from the field. “I haven’t had a night like that this year. Unfortunately, I had it tonight.”

Mike Bibby was even worse. He missed all seven of his shots. It got to the point where the Spurs pretty much let him launch while they worried about others.

– Parker went down with a sprained left ankle in the third quarter. Horford was defending on the play. “It was really weird. I jumped and he seemed to hit my leg. I didn’t think nothing of it until someone else (Ian Mahinimi) shot his free throws. I hope he’s OK.”

– Parker never returned, and the Spurs lost some of their mojo. Crawford helped the Hawks rally to within 89-80 early in the fourth.

– Then the Hawks had six misses and two turnovers over their next eight possessions, and the Spurs’ lead grew to 95-80. That was pretty much it for the Hawks. “We really could have made a couple plays there to turn it around,” Horford said. “We didn’t and you have to give them credit.”

— “It was an uphill battle, and once we did cut it to single digits, I think we kind of tried to force it too much,” J.J. said.

– The Hawks lost their 12th straight at San Antonio, where they haven’t won since Feb. 15, 1997. They also couldn’t complete their first road sweep of the three Texas teams since 1990-91.

– Woody already was ready to write this one off after the Hawks won at Houston on Monday night. “We finished .500 on the road trip, 1-1, and I’ll take that all day long.”

– The Celtics are next on Friday. They’ve got Kevin Garnett back from injury and they really aren’t trying to get swept by the Hawks. “It’s not going to be easy,” J.J. said. “I think we know that.”

– I’m out, Hawks fans.


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January 28th, 2010
12:09 am


January 28th, 2010
12:50 am

Paper Mache

Hawks were outclassed by Spurs once again. I saw a pretender exposed as too slow, too small and too undisciplined to compete against an elite squad once again. Its a re-ocurring theme, they beat the also rans and lose to the big dogs. No one steps up, they step aside.

I suggest the Hawks get into the Amare derby. They arent really going anywhere with this squad. They should trade Bibby/Marvin/ZaZa/Mo for Amare/Barbosa/Hill now.

Amare would give them more legitimate size and low post skill down low, while Barbosa will provide speed, penetration and shooting out top. Phoenix gets from under two big contracts, brings home Bibby, gets a young, signed Marvin and a good big man ZaZa.

Hawks will be ok if they stand pat. They’ll get out the 1st rd. again, but thats about it. This team will not contend this year, which for some is ok. But for me, if you have a chance to win a chip, you go for it.

The Hawks have the pieces to make a run and should go for it. We know 6′9 Horford/Smoove are just too small for the bigtime. Against Clev last year in playoffs we couldnt get a rebound, tonight Duncan gets 27 rebounds. Its not a fluke.

Now Bibby is showing his age again. This team is fundamentally flawed and it showed tonight and it will again over the weekend.


January 28th, 2010
1:21 am

27 rebounds?



January 28th, 2010
1:22 am

What lame excuses! They should have know that the Spurs were going to come out to battle. What next they get beat by the Celtics and say the same thing “We just weren’t ready, they were more hungry since we beat them three times already”. Oh well, at least we are still in first place for now! Oh yeah, almost forgot…..THIRD!!!!!


January 28th, 2010
2:02 am



darrell starks

January 28th, 2010
2:24 am

TYGER i agree with you 100percent, but i say lets not panic we just need 2 add a piece with out giving up a lot, me trading our first and maybe throw in moe evan might be just enough 2 get biedrins, lets face it if the hawks dont get a center and move horford 2 power forward come playoff second round would be as far as they go.

darrell starks

January 28th, 2010
2:31 am

Trade our first and may be throw in moe evans for biedrins.
You have 2 control the paint come playoffs in a half court game in order 2 get transition points and easy basket.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!


January 28th, 2010
4:41 am

Enough we the game!

That was hugly!

Let’s concentrate on serious stuff: how many times will Ken Strickland write “woody ball” within the next 24 hours? :-)


January 28th, 2010
4:49 am

Tyger: why would PHO do that trade? And… Last time I checked, Phoenix was in a funk… Doesn’t that tell you that Amar’e is not “the answer”?

An egotistical blackhole on offense, with bad knees and bad eyes who does not defend… And that lives at the expense of getting the ball consistently from one of the best offensive PG in the game?

No thanks!

The team just didn’t come out to play focused and when that happens, the combination of Bibby, a lightning quick opposing PG and the switching defense is… Explosive.

We lack coaching and maturity: outcoached and out hustled.

Also, we couldn’t have faced the Spurs in a worst situation: they were desperate to get back on track and that showed.


January 28th, 2010
6:34 am

Ken Strickland For Blogger of the Year


January 28th, 2010
7:08 am

I see still making excuses for the hawks are you……….Theu have beat the Celts all year long so far, but I bet come play-off time none of you “kool-aid” swallowing hawkers would be willing to bet they would make it to the ECC……….


January 28th, 2010
7:41 am

Last night isn’t the end of the season, but the interviews just aren’t helping me keep my positive attitude about this one.

Game was lost b/c Horford couldn’t be effective due to his thumb and Bibby just tanked. Perfect opportunity to put in Teague and Randmo. Especially after the 1st quarter. Go as big as you can until you can at least compete on the boards. Then also see how well Teague could’ve stayed in front of Parker. If even for 5 minutes? Why? Why? Why?

Woodson and the players just seemed to decide that 1-1 on the road trip was a great success so they didn’t bring it.

Maturity, Effort, Expectations. They were low on all 3 last night.

Rock Preston

January 28th, 2010
7:57 am

Joe Johnson is supposed to be an all star?? All Stars step up when the team needs them. Joe had an opportunity to dive for loose ball during that pivotol 4th quarter run but what does he do???? He watches the Spurs get it and go the other way for breakaway score. Thats the kind of effort he brings when things arent going his way. Im tired of his blaze attitude about that type of stuff. Let him walk after the season Hawks!!

Rock Preston

January 28th, 2010
7:59 am

I honestly wonder if coaches and players around the league really espect Woodson as a coach? What coach says….”we are 1-1 on the trip and Im ok with that”.. Crazy…just crazy. No wonder he and Joe have no deals on the table…Sund is watching mess unfold and he will lay down the law after the season.


January 28th, 2010
8:12 am

Joe seemed to have it going all night…but he did just watch that play go down w/o a reaction.


January 28th, 2010
8:40 am

I hate to say it, but I saw this one coming. The Spurs were desperate for the win and the Hawks came out coasting. Props to Josh Smith for a strong effort. Joe and Jamaal shot the ball very well, but I have to say that I noticed that play that Rock mentioned. I won’t throw Joe as far under the bus as Rock, but your point is noted.


January 28th, 2010
8:57 am

Did you notice Horford’s inability to use his hand? That to me was definitely a key part of us not getting things going. Josh did put together another great game. I’m worried about how he’ll respond if he doesn’t make the All-Star team. Could go either way.


January 28th, 2010
9:02 am

If you watch the hawks with an unbias eye you will see that they can substain thier focus for about 5-7 game period. They then take a couple games off for wahatever reason, maybe youth or maybe mental fatigue who knows. But they always bounce back with good effort and good results thus a 29-15 record for the year, not bad right? Most of you predicted 2-3 or 3-2 record for this road trip and you are suprise when we don’t go 5-0. We stand a very good chance of going 4-1 or 3-2 depending on how fast the team regain thier focus and that my friends is not bad. We have to look a the hawks as a work in progress not the finished product. we have to let them grow together (at least to end of season) until they reach their peak before we begin tearing it apart. Especially not trading for anti-chemistry players like Amare.

Rock Preston

January 28th, 2010
9:04 am

Then the clown Woodson finally admits to something…Teague cant even make the rookie team for all star weekend because his non coaching self wont trust Teague enough to give him minutes. Last nite Pop trusted Blair (a rookie) and Hill (a 2-3 yr player) down the stretch because he has coached them up. Altho Hill had to play b/c Parker got hurt..But Woodson keeps putting his foot in his mouth. The man is a stubborn sorry escuse for a coach. Let him go after the season Sund!


January 28th, 2010
9:08 am

It’s pretty obvious that Al was not playing at 100% due to his injury, heck, he wasn’t even at 70%.

So we were more or less doomed from the start.

However, we are losing by 20+ and Woody doesn’t try different stuff like sending RandMo against Mr. Fundamental? To the minimum he could have learned a few things with the experience…

Ditto for JT0 when it was plain obvious that, since his shot was waaaaay off, Bibby was going to be huge minus factor.

Yes, we made a good push in the second half but SA was most of the time without Parker and was already coasting.

Like I said on a post placed yesterday: both Woody and the Hawks had to bring their A games to win yesterday in light of a highly motivated SA team which clearly was not going to bring less than their best effort following a 3 game slide at home.

It was clear that neither (Woody nor the Hawks) came prepared.


January 28th, 2010
9:10 am


Thank for the props yesterday!


January 28th, 2010
9:14 am

Fundamentals- I did notice that.
jsutahawksfan- right on.


January 28th, 2010
9:17 am

The rookie team has 9 players, 2 of whom ideally should be point guards. There were like 7 PGs selected before Teague. How do you expect him to be in top 2? He wouldn’t be in Top 2 even if he played 35 mpg.


January 28th, 2010
9:25 am

Ty Lawson is playing a lot and having a very good season and he was not selected!

Lay off the Teague issue and the ASG Rookie team!!!


January 28th, 2010
9:35 am

Lots of blame to go around tonight.

I wont blame the coaches for players being unprepared. Woody did all he could do to get them ready. It was on them to come out with energy and execute. I also blame the players for lack of rebounding. And where is the hustle?

Two contrasting plays. First, Josh got hit in the nose, but he still went sky high, between 2 players, and got the rebound, before grabbing his nose. On another play, JJ had a chance to dive for a loose ball, but of course he didn’t. And then he took his time getting back on defense. Maybe he was tired, but I expect more from our captain and leader JJ.

No complaints about the ISOs either, because if it wasn’t for JJ and Crawford (and Josh of course), we might have lost by 30.

What I will blame Woody for, is lack of adjustments and strategy. Before the game, we talked about how the Spurs are one team that can use the switching to their advantage. We knew that, so why didn’t Woody know that? Or why didn’t he make an adjustment?

Although Horford always gives 110%, he didn’t have it tonight (maybe his hand is hurting). Only 9 rebounds, shot 2-9. So why didn’t Woody give RandMo a few minutes to see what he could do? We could have used Collins too, but Woody had him in a suit.

It was obvious from early on that the Spurs were going at Bibby, and Bibby was missing everything. But he still played almost 30 minutes. Why not give Teague 10-15 of those minutes, and see what he can do. And why bring Bibby back in with about 6 minutes or so left in the 4th? Woody should have brought Marvin in.

Players and Coaches share the blame. I don’t think Elite (well rested and healthy) teams should give this kind of effort (and its similar to the effort we gave at Miami and at Orlando). Unacceptable.


January 28th, 2010
10:09 am

you guys talking about the play where it went off other players then inadvertently, Joe’s foot out of bounds?


January 28th, 2010
10:12 am

1st of all…’TYGER’…we don’t need A.S./smaller than big Al.
True measurement around 6-8/suspect attitude/not the interior defender
we need. Would severely disrupt chemistry. The only positive, aside from scoring, it would make Joe happy and probably keep him in town.
AJ from Wash. much better fit. *Leader/teammate!

darrell starks:
As always, we seem to be on the same page. Now I’m wondering if Haywood
from Wash., pos. fire sale might not be the best way to get that ‘BIG’
that you and I covet. True measurement: almost 7-1/wingspan 7-7/
wgt. 280/renewed approach to w/o’s and dedication to conditioning.

last night/ missed game, however, my thanks to Mr. Cunningham for the quotes:

Rock Preston – I totally agree. What real coach would ever say:
“We finisished 500 on the road, I’ll take that all day long.”
Maybe last yr. or any of the previous five. But not now, if we are truly thinking ‘elite status’.
As Mr. Cunningham said, “Woodson was already willing to write this one off”, after Mon. night’s win.

Further: (How many times do we have to hear these jaded quotes)
Josh – “I guess we weren’t ready to play”
Joe – “We didn’t match their intensity”
*(this one was disappointing):
Big Al – “I put it on myself [part of it]”
*[part of it]
I’ve said many times Al is my favorite Hawk. But come on Al.
You did the right thing. Be a leader. But go all in. Don’t qualify
your remarks. Take it on yourself. Everyone knew you were injured.
Don’t hedge. Al wants to and is trying to become the leader of this team, he just needs a mentor. Please realize, this was not a bash Al paragraph. He’s learning.

Go Hawks!

Go Clyde!

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

January 28th, 2010
10:29 am

I listen to this game on satellite radio – glad I wasn’t fortunate enough to watch this one. Maybe they got caught looking ahead to the showdown with Boston, our rival and they made a little run in the 3 and 4th quarters to get it down to single digits but could nopt stop em in the end. 27 boards from Duncan – dayum.


January 28th, 2010
10:37 am


Mike is Back

January 28th, 2010
10:42 am

MC, I think the players touch on things that went wrong. They all recognize how their play affected the outcome of the game. Despite the lost…I still seen a different team…than I did the last time they played…I felt the Hawks never gave up and kept competing for four quarters in this game…that was encouraging.

Yeah I was silent on this one…because I knew this would be a difficult match up for the Hawks. POP a master at attacking weaknesses in defenses…and TD is a legit 6’11’ to 7 footer with a plethora of moves…TP ate us alive the last time with his quickness and speed…it would have been a difficult even without their three game loosing streak.

It was going to be a difficult task for Bibby…and it was…the same for AL and Josh…With TD…Woody had to make a move to take one of them away…once he started tweaking the line up he finally came up with something to get us back in the game…but to little to late…those 28 points was to big a hill to climb against a well coached team like SA.

I like that one line up where he had Marvin at the PF…Woody will have to do more of that against teams like SA, Boston, LA, CAVS, and Orlando, I would try to get JS and Collins involved in these games more. Their wealth of experience could be a calming affect on the team…in their times of despair…they have been there…done that…ISN’T THAT WHY WE SIGNED THEM.

Basically, TD got a cakewalk any time he goes up against anyone 6’10’’ or shorter. He is use to scoring against bigger guys…he knows he can play over the top of AL and Josh…Al ain’t the first guy to have a off game trying to defend TD…no sense in harping on this loss…THIS THE NBA BABY!!!

It want get any easier against Boston…they are a different team when KG is leading the charge…I KNOW…KG played the first time we beat them…that want matter Friday.

Usually After we play SA… POP writes the blue print against our defense and then the other team follow suit until Woody comes up with a different scheme. You can’t always go with Crawford when Bibby is struggling…because at times he is a huge liability on defense.

All the people that say they would rather have JC over JJ…I would be careful of what I wish for…I think we need them both.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ATL Hawks #1 Lady Fan

January 28th, 2010
11:01 am

“All the people that say they would rather have JC over JJ…I would be careful of what I wish for…I think we need them both.”-Mike is Back


Liked the way the team came back in the second half.

Time to move on the team has a chance at payback in March on the Spurs. It’s time to focus on the mighty Celtics, KG is back.

Damn, why does the NBA make us wait all the way until 7pm to find out the reserves? Fingers crossed multiple Hawks make the squad cause they deserve it.



January 28th, 2010
11:10 am

O’Brien- I think you gave a very good assesment of the game overall. I will disagree with the last statement only in this regard. Yes, the Hawks got overrun in the 1st quarter (by a veteran team desperate to win) but still fought back with some energy and focus. Last nights game did not feel as shameful as the Miami and Orlando games you mentioned.


January 28th, 2010
11:12 am

I agree with most of the comments posted here. There are gonna be some games we lose. I still think the Hawks are a little soft on the road. Our younger bench players should get more time especially at this point in the season. We are going to need them in the playoffs. Teague needs more playing time because of his ability to push the ball and force the action, but he must first gain a little more confidence in his speed and quickness. Mario West and Randolph Mo should of had some playing time last night. Rand Mo. has a nice little turnaround jumper. I would like to see more usage of him. No worries though. The Hawks are having a great season so far. 4-0 vs. the Celtics. LETS’S GO HAWKS!!!!!!

Alex Brooks

January 28th, 2010
11:13 am

Talk about not being an elite team!! That was such a disappointment to see the Hawks come out so sluggish against the Spurs. The Spurs were cast as the team long in the tooth but Tony Parker made Mike Bibby look as if he had one foot in a nursing home and the other in a flip-flop. I never expected them to dominate this game but I at least expected them to compete. No shaving of eyebrows or chest hairs could have save the butt whipping they recieved. Gimmicks of that nature should not be considered if you’re properly preparring your team. It was a poorly coach game. Speed offset speed. I believe the rookie would have done a better job at staying with Parker in the begining of the game. Horford should have taken a seat to ZaZa with the bad thumb. Could not hit the side of the barn with his shot. Dang…just when I thought that this group had hurdled the Texas slump, they bring me back down to reality….. Way to go guys.


January 28th, 2010
11:17 am

“The Spurs tied their season-high for points in a half with 66, and the Hawks tied their season-high for points allowed in a half. “I put it on myself, part of it” Al Horford said. “I didn’t come out aggressive enough.”” – Horford

You gotta admire Big AL for taking responsibilty for his poor play. When was the last time we heard our captain do that? Or better yet, has he every done that….


January 28th, 2010
11:17 am

By all means Mike Bibby time is at an end. He was way out of his league last night and Rick Sund should have text Woodson asap!!!


January 28th, 2010
11:23 am

Sucks to lose a game like that. Honestly, after looking forward to that game all day yesterday, and then for the game to be over by halftime, it was just disappointing. But, what makes matters worse, I wasn’t surprised by it.

The Hawks have shown signs if being a team that will occasionally take a night off. I sincerely believe that. I can’t tell you for sure that’s what happened last night, but it sure looked that way watching Parker/Hill/Jefferson get to the rim effortlessly. It was quite simple, the Spurs were getting bucket after bucket in the paint while the Hawks settled for jumper after jumper. Offense was struggling early in the game, and the defense didn’t do anything to keep us in the game.

It’d be nice to see Woody make rotation adjustments earlier in a game where he sees his team struggling. It would’ve been nice to get Crawford into that game a bit earlier. Bibby was obviously struggling to hit his shot and we all know he’s a horrible defender.


January 28th, 2010
11:24 am

BTW…What is the value of Marvin WIlliams. No. 2 pick that plays like a D-league wanna be. This guy dosen’t bring no threat to the game offensively. Defense is suspect at best. And when he do shoot the ball, I gasp the same way I do when Josh takes those jump shots. What is it about this guy?? During the break, I want Jamal to take him to the side and teach him how to penetrate to the basket without getting that weak #@!# blocked all the time. Points in the paint should be the demand for the Hawks. Damn Woody..even a blind man with eyebrows can ask for that!!!


January 28th, 2010
11:24 am

Last night was just life on the road in the NBA. Spurs were desperate for a win (losing three straight home games)that was going to be a hard place to win regardless. A little disappionting they didn’t compete, but they will be back home on Friday Night to take down the Celtics for the 4 game season sweep!


January 28th, 2010
11:24 am

Carl Landry ……….3,000,000
Tracy McGrady….23,000,000
Aaron Brooks……2,000,000 = 28,694,371
Marvin Williams…6.7,000,000
Joe Johnson……..15,000,000
There is no guarentee JJ will be back next summer. The cap will be lower next year. There is no guarentee we will be able to afford Jamal. Laundry and Brooks give us youth and speed to match Al and Josh and give us the point guard we never had.The money left over comes close to a ZaZA upgrade and maybe a Chills signing.


January 28th, 2010
11:26 am

Wabe– you took the words right out of my mouth!!!


January 28th, 2010
11:40 am


The Hawks are 1 (or 1 ½) games out from the #2 seed in the East, and you are suggesting we trade our best player, just because we’re not sure if we can resign him?

There are so many sides to look at your suggestion. But no matter how you look at it, I think it would be a foolish decision for the Hawks to make that trade.


The Hawks did show some fight last night in the second half, so in that regards, you’re right.

I don’t mind losing to the Spurs. I just hated the way we got blown out in the first quarter. Last time we played the Spurs, Parker went for 42. Last night he had 10 points in the first quarter, and he was driving at will.

I have a suggestion for the next time we play the Spurs. Start Teague (let him play the first 6-8 minutes or so) just to change it up, and then we can bring Bibby in.


Could you ask Horford if his hand/stitches were bothering him?


January 28th, 2010
11:51 am

We lost to a good, proud, veteran team who expects to compete for a championship at their place in a game they were determined to win to get themselves back on track. It’s not the end of the world and it doesn’t mean that we need to make wholesale changes. It was ONE GAME.

Amare/Barbosa/Hill for Marvin/Bibby/Zaza/Mo? Even if it did work under the salary cap (which it doesn’t), why would PHO even CONSIDER that?

As for Biedrins, Mo and a #1 for Biedrins doesn’t work under the salary cap either and even if it did, we can’t afford to add Biedrins’ salary to our exisiting roster and expect to resign JJ next year.

I don’t think we need to trade any of JJ, Smoove, Al, Marvin, Crawford or even Bibby or we risk seriously disrupting our chemistry. I’d let Bibby or possibly Marvin go in a deal that bowled me over but who is going to bowl us over with an offer for either guy? If Sund can add a piece like Haywood without trading any of those guys, I’m all for it but why would WAS send us Haywood for the likes of Zaza/Mo?

Finally, on the JJ front, only Hawks fans criticize their star player (who scored 31 on 15-26 shooting by the way) for not diving on the floor for a loose ball in the 4th quarter of a game in which he played 40 minutes on a bad foot. Anyone remember the AJC report below:

Johnson, Smith banged up

Hawks guard Joe Johnson (right foot) and forward Josh Smith (right Achilles’) both watched practice Tuesday but said they would be ready to play against the Kings on Wednesday night at Philips Arena.

Johnson, who was limping a bit after getting treatment, said his injury is “nothing major.” He has started all 40 games this season.

“I ain’t going to be missing no games,” he said. “We’ve got something special going on here.”

Smith, who also has yet to miss a game, said he believes the bruise was caused by a strap on the back of his shoe rubbing against the Achilles’.

JJ is one of the toughest players in the NBA. He plays through injuries all the time that many guys routinely sit out for. If he doesn’t dive on the floor for a loose ball every now and then, I certainly understand given that he always does whatever he can to get on the floor. I’m just glad that his coaches, teammates, other coaches around the league and his peers all appreciate him and therefore, we will se him in the All Star game AGAIN this year.

As for Woody, I agree that it was clear that Bibby didn’t have it last night. I think he should have stayed with Marvin (who was our only player with a positive +/- last night) or even given Teague a little run to see if he could have provided a spark. That said, I don’t kno if either of those things would have worked and I don’t blame Woody for the losss. We just got beat.


January 28th, 2010
12:01 pm

It’s been obvious the stitches have bothered Al since he got them. He’s just too much of a warrior to admit it. Woodson should’ve sat him down, regardless of what he said or felt in his heart. Al’s going to play every night. Woodson should see signs and be the head coach.


January 28th, 2010
12:12 pm

Traceman- you are completely right about the trade scenario’s but there really is no point in trying to use the logic of them not being feasable, people think this is fantasy basketball.

Fair enough on the Joe retort. I said I would go so far as to throw him under the bus, and overall he played very well, but I have to admit I did notice the lack of effort on that one play. He had a clear advantage to the ball and if he just gave a little bit would have gotten it without having to dive into a crowd. Not going to rip Joe for that play, because all of the reasons you mentioned, but I can’t totally sweep it under the rug either.


January 28th, 2010
12:13 pm

I meant I would NOT go so far as to throw him under the bus.


January 28th, 2010
12:14 pm


I agree with you that trading JJ because we fear that he might not resign would be a HUGE mistake. I’m sure that Sund is clear by now that he is going to have to pay JJ AT LEAST 5 yrs/$75M and quite possibly more to keep him around. As long as he is prepared to do that, and I think he is, he should keep JJ around.


January 28th, 2010
12:19 pm


Fair enough on the JJ play. I wish he had dived on the floor for the ball too. I’m just willing to give him a pass because I know he is still playing big minutes on a bad foot.


January 28th, 2010
12:39 pm



January 28th, 2010
1:10 pm

Strong Hawk: It is Brendan Haywood for one and you can’t trade Mo Evans and Randolph Morris for him because of the salary constraints. I would suggest you play around with the NBA trade machine on ESPN to see what it takes to make a trade work before suggesting them.