Hawks at Spurs, AKA Messin’ With Texas
San Antonio– It’s been interesting to see perceptions of the Hawks in Western Conference outposts Houston and San Antonio. Both teams were scuffling and coming off worrisome efforts and both considered the Hawks a threat to continue their slides.
Rockets coach Rick Adelman was matter-of-fact in talking up the Hawks like they are an elite team. He worried about their ability to score one-on-one and their open-court prowess. Then the Hawks used their one-on-one scoring ability and open-court prowess to beat his team. Afterward, Hall of Famer Clyde Drexler, a Rockets TV analyst, said of the Hawks: “They are a team that has it all, and they proved it tonight.”
Pop's Spurs falling off?
Now the Hawks are in San Antonio, where Spurs guard Tony Parker tells the San Antonio Express-News (last item): “They’re good — long and athletic. A little bit like the Bulls.” Normally, that might be taken as a backhanded slap since the Bulls are eight games behind the Hawks in the East, but Chicago just beat the Spurs on Monday.
It was the third straight home loss for the Spurs, and that hadn’t happened since 1996-97 (wow). Though coach Gregg Popovich has never been one to put too much stock in the ebbs and flows of regular season, viewing it as a process to get ready for the playoffs, the Spurs sound desperate for a victory. Said Spurs guard Roger Mason Jr.: “This is all a process for the end of the year, and we understand that. At the same time, you know, we’re trying to win games.”
Are the Spurs really in trouble? Woody glanced up at those championship banners inside the AT&T Center and said he’s not buying it: “They are still one of the top teams in the West. Any time ‘Pop’ puts a team on the floor, they are going to compete. You don’t hang four banners in here without doing that.”
– The Hawks will see San Antonio’s first three-game losing streak since ‘96-’97 and raise them 11 straight losses at San Antonio. The Hawks last won here on Feb. 15, 1997. And they haven’t swept all three Texas teams on the road since 1990-91. The possibility of doing so tonight has Big Ray feelin’ good
“Will they pull it off, or will we be singing ‘Two out of three ain’t bad….’? Either way, if you don’t think this is yet another sign of a team that is significantly better than it was last year, then consider the fact that the Hawks didn’t win a single one of these three daunting road games last season. How’s that for perspective?”
– Never mind San Antonio’s struggles. The Hawks will have to be better tonight than they were at Houston Monday night. Hoopinion says (in that very interesting, statistical kind of way) that the Hawks beat the Rockets with just an OK effort:
“Despite the niggling worries, it speaks to this team’s ability that they can go on the road, face a perfectly average team, and win comfortably while playing about 12 minutes of really good basketball.”
– Woody sees winning tough road games as another stage of growth for his team. He said the one constant has to be defensive effort: “Some games on the road you shoot lights out. But you’ve got to have a defensive mentality to win on the road. All elite teams win on the road. Cleveland. The Lakers. Boston. Orlando. It’s not easy.”
– Two days later, and no one with the Hawks seems to know the real story behind Woody’s missing eyebrows. And the accusations and counter-accusations are flying, with everyone seeming to think the person pressing them for info really knows the truth and isn’t saying.
Woody’s still not talking: “To be honest, I don’t know what happened.” And he’s letting them grow back even if the Hawks keep winning.
“It’s growing now as we speak. What am I going to do? Just let it grow.”
After seeing two days’ growth, I’d guess Woody has a good three weeks before they really come back.
– There’s a cattle convention in town. Driving through downtown on the way to the AT & T Center for shootaround, I saw some cowboys with cattle on the sidewalk. I was trippin’ about this. Everyone else just kind of went about their business.
No point to that tidbit, really, just trying to wrap my head around it.
– Talk amongst yourselves, Hawks fans.
MC
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Jonathan
January 27th, 2010
4:03 pm
First
Brett
January 27th, 2010
4:03 pm
could I really be first?
Brett
January 27th, 2010
4:05 pm
guess I’ll have to wait for my “too much time on my hands” award
allan in texas
January 27th, 2010
4:06 pm
Hawks fan living in Austin. Peace Up, A Town down. Go Hawks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ree Roe
January 27th, 2010
4:06 pm
Should be a great game tonite. Hawks have to limit Tony P’s penetration into the lane & defend the paint. Whoever controls the rebound margin should win
-REEcently Roe!!!
Jonathan
January 27th, 2010
4:08 pm
Hah. That’s literally the first time I’ve ever posted on here, too. On a serious note, I’m worried about a Spurs team that has it’s back against the wall. They’re a good, well-coached team and I would be surprised if they didn’t come out with a really strong effort. That being said, I think the Hawks match up pretty well. They’re more athletic than the Spurs and if Horford can contain Duncan and somebody can slow down Tony Parker, we have a shot.
Go Hawks!
Lacsho
January 27th, 2010
4:11 pm
Allan, nice comment I like that.
drmaryb
January 27th, 2010
4:21 pm
Bottom Line….
The Spurs are very old! The Celtics are very old! The HAWKS are very very very Young! The Hawks may score 115 points tonight and the Spurs – 89. Ball Game Over!!!!
Rufus1
January 27th, 2010
4:22 pm
Daniel
I have a very opinion of Teague…I just don’t think on this team, with this coach, he will be anything but a bench warmer.
drmaryb
January 27th, 2010
4:25 pm
Agent “0″ for the Hawks….needs to develop a jump shot and learn to play D-Fense! Chill – Out People! Geeez. If there was nothing to complain about – What would you complain about?
kwooden1
January 27th, 2010
4:32 pm
The Spurs are going to come to play. They’ve lost their last three at home and will do anything to make sure they don’t lose a fourth. The Spurs are missing some of their shooters, so the switching defense could be effective, but we have to keep Parker from the rim. They don’t have anyone that can stay with Smoove, so he should just keep taking the ball to the basket. I’m looking forward to another tough game.
GO HAWKS!!!
drmaryb
January 27th, 2010
4:42 pm
A win is a WIN in the NBA. “This is the NBA man!” We have the opportunity to SEE the best players in the WORLD play a silly game called Basketball!
These guys are not solving World Peace and Hunger…They are not fixing the economy nor bringing health care to all people. This is plain and simple ….ENTERTAINMENT! So, CLYDE…(T-Shirt Man), No one needs to be FIRED? The last thing we need is another Black Man Out-Of-Work and not feeding his wife and kids!
Let’s come together and ENJOY these HAWKS! How F*&%-in LONG has it been since this transient – azz town seen a WINNER! The Braves of ‘92 – ‘94. Hell, they won a WORLD-SERIES and we’re complaining because they didn’t Win another?
Go ask the Mets – if they would sleep with the guy next door for $5,000.00? uuggh…duuuh! you betcha! They would! So, the point, is let’s enjoy sitting on top the division, even if it is for a couple of weeks….would you rather we be behind the Magic or ahead of the Magic?
So, here’s my question…Would You sleep with the guy next door for $5k? Hell, I am so broke right now….Jeffrey Damnier is looking pretty good to me…oh hell, he’s dead already! That’s my luck…lol!
clarkekent
January 27th, 2010
4:53 pm
The key to this game is to keep T.P out of the lane. This is another team with penetrating guards. We have trouble with teams like this. CLE ORL LAL NYK DET… Bibby has to guard somebody. This could be a good game to play Teague. And hope he can stay in front of Tony Parker or George Hill or Manu. We already know Bibby can’t.
drmaryb
January 27th, 2010
4:58 pm
Just Win Baby! I could give a flip – about who’s not playing? Just give me a WINNER!
Benjamin
January 27th, 2010
5:02 pm
Another day, another test…
Hope J-Smoove is fully healthy. He was day-to-day after the last game.
dooley
January 27th, 2010
5:10 pm
the hawks gonna pound the spurs 2nite
vava74
January 27th, 2010
5:10 pm
MC: You are rocking this joint man! Nice work!
On Woody’s talk about Teague:
Woody has been – in most cases – a stand up guy when talking about internal stuff and his personnel. He proved it again with yet another classy move.
Further to this, he is now complaining a lot more to the refs and trying to get what is due to us: fairer refereeing.
If only he manages to develop a better set of offensive plays and learn to adjust better within games (no easy thing) we could have a great coach in the making.
Right now he is in between B and B+, just like the Hawks and if he does not show that he able to take that next step until the end of the season, then we may need to replace him.
On Teague:
There is no comparison with Acie: Acie got more minutes because we were not winning as much and our personnel was not as high quality as we have now.
It’s difficult to find minutes to play 4G during a game, specially when we are winning like we are and with Crawford doing such a good job. Bibby still influences games positively with his savvy and 3 point shooting and needs to be on court for significant minutes.
However, I honestly believe that JT0 is already deserving of more minutes and that he would reward Woody with improved play as the games passed.
However, I understand Woody’s fear. All in all, it his ass on the line when we lose.
Another huge difference between Acie and Teague is that you can sense an aura on Teague… he has a certain “IT” which makes us feel that he is much better than his current production.
Acie didn’t have that AND let us not forget that Acie came to the NBA with 4 years of college ball and JT0 only had 2. HE IS STILL A KID!
In relation to tonight’s game:
The worst factor is that the Spurs already lost 3 in a row at home and will certainly do their best to correct this. I hope that our guys have this in mind and understand that an “injured beast” is sometimes twice as dangerous than an healthy one.
Talent wise we can match up well with the Spurs, although the Big Fundamental, Parker and Ginobili are clear cut all stars, we are deeper.
Coaching and mental stamina are our problems so we need both Woody and the guys to bring their A games.
RA
January 27th, 2010
5:37 pm
Uhm, as far as that quote from hoopinion is concern, I hope that whoever used the word “niggling” was a black fella.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
5:46 pm
Thanks for the love, MC !
As to the previous blog, in which the subject was Teague and Woodson, I’ll say this:
I don’t always like the kid’s playing time, or lack thereof, but I have a right to like or not like it. Nobody really cares if I do or don’t anyway!
But….Teague is getting a lot of support from his coach and his teammates. I see things going on with him that I did not see with Acie Law. We can speculate all day and night as to why this is so, but we don’t know the truth. Do I want to see him out there more? Yeah, but I also want to eat a Whopper and Fries and not gain a single calorie.
Much noise as I make, I’m sure the kid will be fine. Again, Woody has shown the kid plenty of support. But he’s also made his decisions. Right now, his decisions and the team’s play has us in the top 3 of the East, something that even some of the diehard Hawks fans (and diehard Woody fans) said wasn’t possible. Hey, I still have issues with plenty of stuff. It’s the nature of being a fan. Apparently, so is dogging each other for having opinions, lol….
doc
January 27th, 2010
5:47 pm
ra ….
nig·gling (nglng)
adj.
1. Petty, especially in a nagging or annoying way; trifling: a pointless dispute over niggling details.
2. Overly concerned with details; exacting and fussy.
niggling n.
niggling·ly adv.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
niggling [ˈnɪglɪŋ]
adj
1. petty
2. fussy
3. irritating
4. requiring painstaking work
n
an act or instance of niggling
nigglingly adv
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged 6th Edition 2003. © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003
ThesaurusLegend: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms
Adj. 1. niggling – (informal) small and of little importance; “a fiddling sum of money”; “a footling gesture”; “our worries are lilliputian compared with those of countries that are at war”; “a little (or small) matter”; “a dispute over niggling details”; “limited to petty enterprises”; “piffling efforts”; “giving a police officer a free meal may be against the law, but it seems to be a picayune infraction”
fiddling, footling, picayune, piddling, piffling, trivial, petty, lilliputian, little
colloquialism – a colloquial expression; characteristic of spoken or written communication that seeks to imitate informal speech
unimportant – not important; “a relatively unimportant feature of the system”; “the question seems unimportant”
Based on WordNet 3.0, Farlex clipart collection. © 2003-2008 Princeton University, Farlex Inc.
niggling
adjective
1. irritating, troubling, persistent, bothersome Both players have been suffering from niggling injuries.
2. petty, minor, trifling, insignificant, unimportant, fussy, quibbling, picky (informal), piddling (informal), nit-picking (informal), finicky, pettifogging They started having tiffs about the most niggling little things.
Collins Thesaurus of the English Language – Complete and Unabridged 2nd Edition. 2002 © HarperCollins Publishers 1995, 2002
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
5:49 pm
RA ,
“Niggling” doesn’t mean what you think it means. And that’s coming from a black guy. It’s all good, fella.
drmaryb
January 27th, 2010
5:54 pm
hey doc…
i like that word…niggling. I am a word freak, I read my thesarus-sp, for fun & entertainment….I see you do too. yeah…thatz my new word….niggling! -sniggles-
Hawks 115 – Spurs 89
vava74
January 27th, 2010
5:56 pm
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/gilbert-arenas-suspended-for-rest-of-season-012710
Not bad, not bad at all for Arenas…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
5:58 pm
I posted on a blog a couple of days ago that the Hawks’ switching defense would be weakest against a team that a) has a good low post presence and b) is patient enough to exploit the switching defense to get that low post presence a favorable matchup. The Spurs qualify on both counts, and you can bet that a good coach like Popovich knows all about the switching D and has drawn up plans to exploit it. Let’s hope the Hawks have a way to counter that. Between the possibility of Duncan posting up one of our guards all night long, and Parker breaking down Bibby off the dribble, I’m not too confident about the Hawks’ chances tonight.
drmaryb
January 27th, 2010
6:16 pm
o.k. i’m on a roll…
Little Johnny is six years old, he comes home from school and says , “Dad, I need your help with my homework assignment – I need to know the difference between Theoretic-ally & Realistic-ally.”
Dad says, o.k. Son …Go upstairs and ask your Sister – if she would sleep with the guy next door for $5k dollars? Little Johnny runs upstairs and ask his Sister, “Hey Sissy, would you sleep with the guy next door for $5k dollars?” She replies, “Are you kiddin’ me? duuhh …hell yeah!”
Little – J returns to Dad & says, “Sissy said…duuhh! hell yeah!”
But, I still don’t know the difference between Theoretic-ally & Realistic-ally?
Dad, says o.k., Son, go out to the kitchen and ask your Mom – if she would sleep with the guy next door for $5k dollars? Little – J..goes out to the kitchen, and asks, “Hey Mom, would YOU sleep with the guy next door for $5k dollars?” Mom says, You Betcha!
Little – Johnny, tell his Dad, “Mom says, You Betcha – she would sleep with the guy next door for $5k dollars!”
But, I still don’t know the difference between Theorectic-ally & Realistic-ally?
Dad, says Son – Theoretic-ally we got $10k dollars – Realistic-ally … we’re BROKE and got two WHOES in the house!
My point? Theoretic-ally the Hawks are A-TOP our division…..Realistic-ally we got to beat them Lakers!
Traceman
January 27th, 2010
6:58 pm
Ken,
From the last blog, I’m no more “covering up” periods of inconsistency than you are “manufacturing” periods of inconsistency. Your analysis always begins right at the end of our 7-game winning streak. OF COURSE any stretch that doesn’t include our longest winning streak of the season is going to make us look less consistent in comparison.
We had a 7-game winning streak in November, a 6-game winning streak in December and we’ve won 6 of 7 and 8 of 10 since our 4-game losing streak at the end of Deccember/beginning of January. We have consistently put together significant stretches of good play in every month this season.
Seeing as how we have defeated every team in our division other than ORL, what “TEAMS in our division” are you saying that we can’t beat? Yes, we struggle against ORL but we have been very competitive against every other team in division as well as every other team in the NBA. There are currently two teams ahead of us in the EC standings and we are 3-0 vs BOS and we played CLE VERY tough. ORL had the perfect team to beat CLE last year. CLE was so worried about BOS that they looked past ORL. Once they got to ORL, they were worried about Howard but he was not the problem. Turkoglu and Lewis were matchup mightmares for CLE and CLE simply didn’t have the personnel to matchup with them. I say all that to say this. We may or may not play ORL in the playoffs but we need to focus on what helps us be the best team and not specifically focus on ORL.
As for using the regular season “develop, adjust, modify, improve and solidify the players, systems and overall team,” I think Woody is clearly doing that. The defense is getting back to where it needs to be, Jamaal is more comfortable than ever in his role, Woody is giving both Smoove and Al more post up opportunities than ever (even if they could use even more) and he is doing a MUCH better job of having the team play a good 3rd quarter than he has in past seasons. Both Al and Smoove have shown TREMENDOUS improvement in their offensive games. Marvin and Bibby are both starting to play better as the season goes along as they are finding what they need to do to help the team. The bench continues to improve as well.
Woody does a LOT of things right, including relying on Bibby and Jamaal to play the majority of the PG minutes. Unless Teague can guard Dwight Howard, he is not going to be the difference in us beating ORL and we seem to be doing pretty dang well against everyone else. We are no longer in development mode, we are in “win now” mode and Teague playing major minutes at PG does NOT give us the best chance to win now.
HawksFan11
January 27th, 2010
7:01 pm
The hawks will lose tonight becuz…. We wont get any calls and that means alot of complaining from josh and his head will be out the game… The spurs know we are going to switch on defense so they will bring horford to the top to guard parker and parker gone go off for 30.. Look for a couple garbage players to make a ton of 3’s. Mason bogans BONNER! watch and enjoy my friends.
Ramon
January 27th, 2010
7:03 pm
With this being 3-4 seasons in a row that Arenas will miss more than half of the season, I wonder does he refer to the NBA as his part time job. LOL.
FRESH
January 27th, 2010
7:13 pm
drmaryb,
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was a funny and excellent post man…WOW!!
Blast
January 27th, 2010
7:18 pm
MC!
Wow! Three blogs in what? 24 hours? You are indeed the man! And don’t worry about folks talking about you calling them haters. We use that word here all the time.
I’m sick to death about this Teague talk. Guess when Hawks are winning, fans must find something to moan about. Can’t we just enjoy the ride? Hawks have a chance to sweep Texas, to create yet another piece of history tonight, and we’re talking about a rookie not getting minutes. Teague is good, but he is not just ready for 15-20 minutes yet. Sorry. At least Woody acknowleges that the rook needs more playing time.
Spurs are gonna come out desperate, but if Hawks stick to game plan, they should pull it off. I was more concerned about Houston than the Spurs.
Ho Hawks!
RA
January 27th, 2010
7:19 pm
Sorry guys. Just wanted to change the color on your mood rings:)
Blast
January 27th, 2010
7:28 pm
Make that Go, Hawks!
Astro Joe
January 27th, 2010
7:44 pm
Cattle convention? MC, I have a decent-sized freezer in the basement. How much will Delta charge you to bring back maybe 20 pounds of porterhouse steaks, 15 pounds of ribeyes and a few dozen angus burgers? Ray and doc will pay you later… they promise.
Any Word....
January 27th, 2010
7:50 pm
Starting in NIGG is suspect. It has a British orgin, thats enough guilt for me. Plus that HOOP poo doo guy is suspect and he is NOT Black…..
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
8:07 pm
Astro ,
You’re on a roll, lol! Since I can’t eat it right now anyway, I’ll donate to the Astro Joe fund. I’ll even grill it for ya. How do you take yours?
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
8:08 pm
“Any Word Starting in NIGG is suspect. It has a British orgin, thats enough guilt for me. Plus that HOOP poo doo guy is suspect and he is NOT Black”
Wtf…..
northcyde
January 27th, 2010
8:11 pm
I think we’ll see Smoove and Horford struggle a little offensively tonight. It’s imperative that they not let the Spurs dominate the boards. Smoove and Al are really going to have to hold their ground defensively, to keep this game under control.
So what do we do for offense? It’s going to be a lot of ISO ball tonight folks. JJ and Crawford will have to be on their game tonight, in order for us to win. Expect a 30+ point night from JJ, out of necessity. I can easily see him taking 24 – 28 shots tonight, if our frontline is struggling to score.
The X-Factor tonight is Zaza. He’s the guy we’re going to need decent play out of, when Horford gets in foul trouble. ( and he will get in foul trouble ). Zaza is usually somewhat successful against the Spurs. He may play his best game of the year tonight.
All in all, this will probably be a “grindfest” in which every possession in the 2nd half will seem to be huge. And after tonight, Blair will make most people wish we’d taken him, instead of Teague.
ISO JJ will win this game.
Hawks 94 – Spurs 90
vava74
January 27th, 2010
8:13 pm
vava74
January 27th, 2010
8:15 pm
why not pound Duncan early with a lot of touches to Al and Josh? Even if they miss a bunch, make him work early and see if he holds his wind…
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
8:29 pm
lets get it…
BONE
January 27th, 2010
8:32 pm
Im here ya’ll lets get this party started.
Sautee
January 27th, 2010
8:33 pm
LOL @ vava: “holds his wind”. Not making fun, bud, but that might mean something a little “different” to some of us.
If he fails to hold his wind I hope Josh and Al are out of range.
KevinA
January 27th, 2010
8:35 pm
Pressure Duncan. Attack him.
Sautee
January 27th, 2010
8:39 pm
Last year the Spurs used a liberal dose of hack-a-Josh and made him shoot free throws. He will have to be VERY patient.
vava74
January 27th, 2010
8:39 pm
Actually, in portuguese we say when a guy is tired and out of breath that he is “a bufar” which is written precisely the same as as “breaking wind” due to the somehow similar hissing sound made with the gas exhaustion…
BONE
January 27th, 2010
8:43 pm
Man Bibby sucks if he’s not making jumpers.
BONE
January 27th, 2010
8:44 pm
Bad defense
BONE
January 27th, 2010
8:46 pm
Seriously can the hawks play defense. And why is Josh taking jumpers
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
January 27th, 2010
8:47 pm
wdf????? these shots are too easy for the spurs
BONE
January 27th, 2010
8:48 pm
Hawks are clearly the inferior team.
J.J.M.
January 27th, 2010
8:48 pm
lol the spurs lookin like the hawks
BONE
January 27th, 2010
8:48 pm
Greg Poppovich is a real coach
Melvin
January 27th, 2010
8:48 pm
Got damn, I believe the 14 of the Spurs 16pts have been layups and dunks…
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
January 27th, 2010
8:49 pm
Mike Woodson’s eyebrows gimmick is not workin anymore
time for him to shave half of his ’stache
Blast
January 27th, 2010
8:49 pm
Hawks just jakking off jumpers and playing bad defence, no offensive rebounds, they don’t look too motivated….I could go on…..
J.J.M.
January 27th, 2010
8:50 pm
I think so melvin
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
8:50 pm
I guess defense is optional…
BONE
January 27th, 2010
8:50 pm
I don’t know why Bibby is in the Game. He does nuthin
KevinA
January 27th, 2010
8:50 pm
Why is Bibby in the game?
d.carter
January 27th, 2010
8:51 pm
Mike Bibby is the worst defender in the NBA
BONE
January 27th, 2010
8:51 pm
I hope Bibby does retire.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
8:52 pm
damn of loving Josh’s game of late…
J.J.M.
January 27th, 2010
8:52 pm
i think bibby will retire after this season
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
8:53 pm
Bibby can’t retire really
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
8:54 pm
Northcyde ,
Your prediction about our bigs struggling tonight was entirely logical. I think the problem will be worse for Horford than Josh, however. Horford will have to deal with Duncan. McDyess and Co can’t stop Josh. They can only hope he tries too many jumpers and misses from the charity stripe when he gets there.
d.carter
January 27th, 2010
8:54 pm
Al has Atari 2600 post moves
J.J.M.
January 27th, 2010
8:54 pm
wow air ball
BONE
January 27th, 2010
8:54 pm
Man TAKE BIBBY THE HELL OUT.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
January 27th, 2010
8:54 pm
man…right by bibby…easily
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
8:55 pm
Bibby looked like he was in concrete
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
January 27th, 2010
8:55 pm
Josh the only one who came to play?
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
8:56 pm
Sorry, but the Hawks just aren’t this disciplined. Popovich and his crew knew exactly what to do going into this game, and they’re doing it. It all starts with penetration, and their guards are blowing right past ours, putting all the pressure on our bigs, who can’t afford to get into early foul trouble
d.carter
January 27th, 2010
8:56 pm
Mike Bibby needs to call it quits… cmon Woody dont wait till we are down by 20
BONE
January 27th, 2010
8:56 pm
Hawks are gonna lose this game.
Blast
January 27th, 2010
8:56 pm
Tony needs to be dished a seriously hard foul to make him think twice about driving the lane at ease!
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
8:57 pm
bibby gone thank god
J.J.M.
January 27th, 2010
8:57 pm
i guess joe wont be gettin his calls
BONE
January 27th, 2010
8:57 pm
See thats what Josh needs to do. Stop the Jupers
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
8:57 pm
Al has six stitches on one of his thumbs. That only makes it more difficult when Duncan is guarding you.
d.carter
January 27th, 2010
8:58 pm
AL really is nothing more than a hustle guy
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
January 27th, 2010
8:58 pm
Yeah…thats great basketball….organizing and USEFUL game plan…and executing it..
hate it…but it’s beautiful
we have to stop this
BONE
January 27th, 2010
8:58 pm
Can the hawks play defense
d.carter
January 27th, 2010
8:59 pm
Horrible shot selection by joe
J.J.M.
January 27th, 2010
8:59 pm
wow this game is over
BONE
January 27th, 2010
8:59 pm
I guess not
J.J.M.
January 27th, 2010
8:59 pm
time 2 watch man vs wild
d.carter
January 27th, 2010
9:00 pm
Joe really plays no defense at all
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:00 pm
Woody THE COACH OF THE YEAR was supposed to have them prepared but they don’t even know what to do.
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
9:00 pm
This crap is awful. I might just go do my homework
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
9:00 pm
Spurs are killing us on the glass, already.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
9:00 pm
gotta love Pop for this though… he’s taking no prisoners… he had a sub ready at the 8 min mark. he’s going right at the Hawks deficiencies and will do it if he has to play 10 guys tonight…
Wabe
January 27th, 2010
9:00 pm
Hawks look lost tonite. Defense has clearly broken down multiple times in this first quarter. Pretty sad to see a team as old as the Spurs beating the Hawks up and down the court in the transition game.
Too many easy buckets for the Spurs. Gotta tighten up that defense if we hope to have any chance.
Lacsho
January 27th, 2010
9:01 pm
VAVA- that 5:10 post is the best post of the season!!!!!!
Much respect!!!!
Looks like the Hawks are stuck in the mudd tonight. Hopefully they will turn this thing around before it gets out of hand.
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:01 pm
Can we trade coaches. I like watching a real basketball team in action.
d.carter
January 27th, 2010
9:01 pm
This is one of those games where we wont compete
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
9:01 pm
Oh please don’t let this be a serious injury. We need Smith. Besides Joe, he’s the only Hawk that seems to be in the game. Well, except for Al, who has nearly all of our whopping 7 rebounds.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
9:02 pm
“Joe really plays no defense at all”
haha… foolery.
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:03 pm
Josh is limping. GAME OVER
Blast
January 27th, 2010
9:03 pm
Josh been getting banged up lately! We need You Josh!!
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:03 pm
Joe plays better defense than Bibby
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
January 27th, 2010
9:03 pm
do the hawks even design strategies against specific teams and players….seems like they just go out with that 1 on 1 crap on O against everybody
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
9:04 pm
This is pathetic
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:04 pm
OMG the hawks are terrible
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
January 27th, 2010
9:04 pm
this could get ugly
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
9:04 pm
They are beating us in our own game
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
9:04 pm
Well, looks like I can watch Barack Obama on full screen tonight. Apparently the Warriors and Hawks switched uniforms.
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:04 pm
Mac thgey have no strategy. It’sa just shoot a jumper and hope it goes in.
Melvin
January 27th, 2010
9:05 pm
Hawks are in love with the jump shot tonight…
Wabe
January 27th, 2010
9:05 pm
It’s pretty simple. The Spurs are getting layup after layup while the Hawks settle for tough contested jumpers.
Look at how easy that last bucket was for Blair. Nobody near him in transition.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
9:05 pm
Spurs killing us on the glass. Duncan and Blair.
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
9:05 pm
Blair outworking everyone
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
January 27th, 2010
9:05 pm
lmfao
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
9:05 pm
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Wabe
January 27th, 2010
9:05 pm
Seriously?
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
January 27th, 2010
9:06 pm
how can you allow that
Blast
January 27th, 2010
9:06 pm
If you gonna foul Parker on the drive, foul him hard!
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:06 pm
35 pts in the 1st qtr
iRepATL
January 27th, 2010
9:06 pm
WTF is wrong with them, loooooooooooool tony parker is gonna win this 1 by himself just like the game in atlanta.
Melvin
January 27th, 2010
9:06 pm
I think the Spurs have scored at least 30 points in the paint in the 1st qtr..
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:07 pm
WHERE ARE ALL THOSE WOODY FANS.
YA’LL WANTED ME TO COMPLIMENT HIM. YEA RIGHT.
Blast
January 27th, 2010
9:07 pm
Cosign, Najeh. Since Hawks are sucking it up, it frees me up to watch the President’s State of Union Address.
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:07 pm
Teague can’t play any worse than Bibby
Sautee
January 27th, 2010
9:08 pm
‘Nique:
“Looks like the hawks are gonna have to pick it up defensively.”
Gee ‘Nique, ya’ really think so?
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
9:08 pm
Well how about that. Teague is the first to truly contest a jumpshot in this game, by my count. He got right in Jefferson’s face, and voila….a miss.
Blast
January 27th, 2010
9:08 pm
Or maybe watch some sezy models on YouTube…heh, heh, heh.
Wabe
January 27th, 2010
9:09 pm
Think the Hawks came into these two games in Texas hoping for a split. Seeing they’ve already taken care of business in Houston, you’re seeing signs through this 1st quarter of a team that has no intention of winning this game. Seriously, they looked lost throughout that entire quarter. You know Parker’s gonna do the majority of his scoring in the paint, yet he along with George Hill/Richard Jefferson got into the lane effortlessly.
36 points in one quarter is a joke. Defense didn’t come to play tonight.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
January 27th, 2010
9:09 pm
BOB BENDER FOR HEAD COACH!!!!
iRepATL
January 27th, 2010
9:10 pm
egg_head_teagues turn to get shredded by parker
Blast
January 27th, 2010
9:10 pm
Or break out the porn stash….lol!
Or maybe do all of the above. After all, I am a man of many talents!
Wabe
January 27th, 2010
9:10 pm
Glad Woody put in the 2nd unit here. Hopefully they can provide a spark.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
January 27th, 2010
9:10 pm
lets ATLEAST keep this around a 10 pound margin at the half.
Sautee
January 27th, 2010
9:10 pm
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:03 pm
“Joe plays better defense than Bibby”
Hey Bone, do you mean Astro Joe?
Lacsho
January 27th, 2010
9:10 pm
Joe and Zaza dropped the ball!!
You have to bench people if they refuse to give 110%!!!!
NoleRick
January 27th, 2010
9:10 pm
Is this one of the games when the Hawks quit and we get down by 35?
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
9:11 pm
Great effort by Pachulia.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
9:11 pm
i remember when Jeff Teague was a scorer… would be nice to see him get a chance to touch the rock…
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
9:12 pm
looking like it nolerick
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
9:12 pm
not 1 shot blocker in the game and nobody’s driving…
iRepATL
January 27th, 2010
9:12 pm
F$#@ING HORRIBLE ON THE GLASS
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
9:12 pm
WHY was teague the only one rebounding?
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
9:12 pm
appreciate it Jamal…
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:12 pm
We need to trade Zaza for Javal Macavee. We need fron court hel BAD
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
9:13 pm
Ok. I’m convinced that Mo Evans is unbelievably overrated as a defender.
Meanwhile ISO Jamal is in full effect.
northcyde
January 27th, 2010
9:14 pm
Down 15? LOL . . . could’ve been a lot worse.
Believe it or not, we’re actually OK . . . for now. Good sign that JJ is trying to take over. Like I suspected, we’re going to need a high shot volume from him tonight. Once Wody corrects the problem on defense this quarter, let’s see if Crawford can get it going to get us back in the game.
Game is far from over though. I’D BE SHOCKED to see the Spurs play at this level all night. When they start to LULL, is when we need to make our move. It’ll be nice to see Zaza grind a little while he’s in the game though.
But right now, Crawford, and then JJ, need to keep us within striking distance. Can’t let the Spurs get over 55 this quarter.
Melvin
January 27th, 2010
9:16 pm
Hawks are standing around looking on offense and scrambling for dare life on defense…
Sid
January 27th, 2010
9:17 pm
We are gonna make a run and get back in this game …of this i am certain However we cannot beat this team by walking the ball up the floor and by giving up layups.
Force a few jumpshots crash the boards AND RUN
We need to get this game into the 100’s and lets remember the Spurs confidence is shaken so we need to start counter punching and they will cave
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
9:17 pm
the sweet d continues
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:18 pm
the hawks ain’t about to do nuthin. Ya’ll are TOOOOOOOOOOOO Optimistic.
GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS. THE SPURS PLAY BASKETBALL THE RIGHT WAY.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
9:18 pm
Woody’s so mad, his eyebrows might grow back THIS QUARTER.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
9:19 pm
So much for holding the Spurs to 55 by the end of the quarter….
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:19 pm
Please let us get a coach half as good as Greg Poppovich
The stache-less
January 27th, 2010
9:19 pm
isn’t quite working tonight
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:20 pm
The spurs must be thinking.
“This is supposed to be an elite team LMAO”
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:21 pm
And heres Bibby doing nuthin again
iRepATL
January 27th, 2010
9:21 pm
lo0oooooooooooooooooool @bigray
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:22 pm
Stop giving it to Al his hand is obviously hurt you idiots.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
9:22 pm
Did George Hill really think he was gonna get that one? LOL
Sid
January 27th, 2010
9:22 pm
Bibby Marv and AL 0-10 WTH
iRepATL
January 27th, 2010
9:23 pm
GEORGE HILL >>>>>>>>>> ENTIRE HAWKS SQUAD?
Melvin
January 27th, 2010
9:23 pm
Ok, I understand the Hawks are haveing problems with defense but where is the offense? I thought they didnt have to worry about offense… down 20+ pts with 5mins left in the 2nd qtr….
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:23 pm
Wheres Samuel? I wanna know why Woody isn’t coaching like the coach of the year.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
9:24 pm
We can’t seem to hit anything. And of course, we’ve resorted to long range jumpers the minute we realized that.
Wabe
January 27th, 2010
9:24 pm
You know the Hawks are in trouble when Dominique starts talking about cutting that lead 2 by 2.
“The Hawks just gotta play solid overall defense and cut into that lead 2 by 2.”
That usually means a Hawks L.
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
9:24 pm
jump shot mania out there
Sautee
January 27th, 2010
9:24 pm
Well, like Ray said: Two out of three ain’t bad.
But otherwise…… this sh!t ain’t working
iRepATL
January 27th, 2010
9:25 pm
RIGHT NOW ID RATHER HAE RANDMO OR COLLINS IN THAN AL
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
9:26 pm
Ok, no koolaid for me. This game is all but a wash at this point.
Wabe
January 27th, 2010
9:27 pm
JJ looks frustrated.
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
9:27 pm
Once again idk what to think about us. we have been rolling and playing good and this crap. What’s everyone think?
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:27 pm
Al doesn’t need to play. His hand is gonna get injured even more if he keeps playing.
welikebaseball2
January 27th, 2010
9:27 pm
This is why I don’t want to hear this “this is the nba, no team can be on all the time” crap. The Hawks go through more extremes than a little bit. Not many of the “top” teams in the league so consistently follow blowout wins with blowout losses. Two words: Disgustingly Inconsistent.
Sautee
January 27th, 2010
9:27 pm
Wabe,
‘Nique’s just taking it one cliche at a time.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
9:27 pm
Great pass by Joe to Josh.
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:28 pm
Woody is supposed to be a Defensive coach. Yea right
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
9:28 pm
Spurs aren’t just executing perfectly, they’re also getting mostly open looks. And hitting them.
Can’t begrudge JJ the ISO right about now. Between him, Jamal, and Josh, they’re pretty much our representation on the scoreboard.
Bad pass by Josh. Not that it would have done much good if it had hit the mark. Bibby couldn’t buy a shot or a good pass right now.
iRepATL
January 27th, 2010
9:29 pm
this makes me wanna go watch coach carter….i think my highschool team were better than the way we playin tonight
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
9:29 pm
3rd in the East = 7th in the West.
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:29 pm
Man ZaZa is Horrible. And wtf is Josh doin.
iRepATL
January 27th, 2010
9:29 pm
JSMOOOOOOOOOOOOVE DA POINTGUARD!!!!!!
Melvin
January 27th, 2010
9:29 pm
I want to see what Randmo/Mario can do. Take ZaZa/Bibby out.
Blast
January 27th, 2010
9:30 pm
This is the Bad Hawks showing up right here. One on one plays, no ball movement, no defence, no rebounding, no block outs, no seeming interest in the game….
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:31 pm
I don’t wanna see anybody talk about this team being elite. Th Hawks are still pretenders that will be swept in the playoofs again. Until they prove otherwise.
The stache-less
January 27th, 2010
9:31 pm
3rd best team in the east is getting absolutely busted by the 6th best in the west
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
9:31 pm
jamal, arms down, just stands and watches on d…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
9:31 pm
You could see this coming with 8 minutes left in the first quarter, just from the body language.
Barack Obama is giving a great speech. Then again, nobody disputes his ability to give speeches…
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:31 pm
Zaza has trouble making a 2 foot layup. He misses it twice lol
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
9:32 pm
It’s called desperation. I’d ask for our floor leader to calm things down, but he’s playing so badly right now that I don’t see him doing much for us. And so, plays like that happen.
preston
January 27th, 2010
9:33 pm
lol………I just turned the game on and saw that the spurs had 62 points….and I thought it was the 3rd quarter…..lolo
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:33 pm
I’m glad this team didn’t play in the 90’s. The bulls woulda beat them by like 85 pts.
niremetal
January 27th, 2010
9:33 pm
Marvin at center. That’s new.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
9:34 pm
josh getting sick of bibby’s defensive shortcomings…
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
9:35 pm
Josh is balling…
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:36 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if Josh slapped bibby for his shiitty Defense
NoleRick
January 27th, 2010
9:37 pm
Hopefully this means we wont get blown out by Orlando on Sat. We are only allowed one per every couple weeks.
The stache-less
January 27th, 2010
9:37 pm
at this rate, Hawks: 80 ; Spurs: 120
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
9:38 pm
Josh Smith is the most misunderstood player in the NBA.
BONE
January 27th, 2010
9:40 pm
Oh man I forgot we play the Magic this week. Thats another beatdown we gotta go through.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
9:42 pm
20 dimes and 1 turnover for the Spurs. Unbelievable. Believe it or not, kids, the Hawks were carried by their defense the last two seasons.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
9:45 pm
thats what happens when you upgrade/re up on solely offensive talents…
Sid
January 27th, 2010
9:47 pm
32-19 on the glass we have to man up .
I thought Woody shouldve pulled the plug early on the starting 5 when it was 16-7 as weve seen our starting lineup come out and lay eggs the first 7-8 minutes of games way too often. We have a real chance to have 16 road wins by the all star break and match our entire road win total for last season .these road games are the ones that prepare you for the playoffs and our starting 5 have not answered the bell far too many times in the first half of the season. Where is the hunger ?
Blast
January 27th, 2010
9:49 pm
President Obama just called out Congress and the GOP.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
9:49 pm
spurs sold out completely in the 1st qrt built a cushion and now watch them slow this thing down…
a team that can truly play any type of game rather half court or running…
O'Brien
January 27th, 2010
9:52 pm
Ray,
I’m going to say it before Clyde does. “Sean Williams would not have allowed so many points in the paint”.
Hawks being outrebounded by 13. I will not blame Woody for that. Rebounding is about effort. And we have 6 assists, while the Spurs have 20. (I hope JJ and Crawford start hitting all their shots).
Another thing I blame the players for, is we are too soft. Where is the hard foul?
What I blame Woody for, is we have no strategy or backup plan for when plan A fails. Where’s the adjustment?
There was a blogger on the other blog who said the switching would not work against the Spurs. And what do you know? He was right. If bloggers know that (going into the game), how come Woody does not know that?
Our defense has been horrible, but our offense has been horrible too. I wonder if Woody still doesnt give a s#@t about offense. And the switching defense does not always work (although Woody says “the s#@t works). It works, sometimes.
I’m just frustrated. I dont mind losing, but I hate being blown out. I hate our effort, our intensity, our defense and our execution.
pinoy hawk
January 27th, 2010
9:55 pm
Woody’s all to blame. He doesn’t know how to adjust to opponent’s lineup whenever their pulling away. Woody after all these years has no idea how to use his team’s strengths and hide their weaknesses.
And co sign bigdave on the upgrade. If possible trade zaza and mo for a bigman with the likes of camby or okafor. With no perimter D and paint presence the hawks would not go deep into the playoffs esp. if they face Orlando or Cleveland in the 2nd round
northcyde
January 27th, 2010
9:58 pm
POSITIVES:
- JJ and Jamal have 24 points. We may need 60 out of them to win this game. One of them will probably need to get hot from 3 point range before it’s all said and done. Great job by them for keeping the game at least within a 10 – 0 run of making it interesting.
- Josh Smith still hustling and playing hard, despite the decifit. There is no “give up” in him.
- Bibby and Horford can’t possibly play any worse in the 2nd half, than they did in the first.
Even if we don’t win this game, I want to see if they can adjust and claw their way back into this game. One of the traits of good teams, is the ability to overcone adversity on the road, and at least make a game of it. I want to see this lead down to single digity by the 5 min mark in the 4th.
At least make this game interesting guys. How about a big run to start the 3rd.
Jody
January 27th, 2010
9:58 pm
Here again, teams are not afraid to drive the lane on the Hawks.
cp
January 27th, 2010
9:58 pm
Can we please cut the power to Niques mic? Nique is freaking horrible. Is he even watching the game? Like I said a few blogs ago, we really need to try and get a defensive minded big in here to come off the bench. They are getting killed on the glass and in the paint.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
9:59 pm
Joe is really on it tonight.
O'Brien
January 27th, 2010
10:00 pm
Bibby is 0-6 in 19 minutes, with 1 assist, and horrible defense. Isnt this a chance for Woody to give Teague some burn?
He cant do any worse than Bibby…
cp,
I would love a guy like Camby, but I dont know how we could trade for him and his almost $10 mil expiring contract (plus I doubt the Clippers will trade him).
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:00 pm
give it up for Josh people…
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:00 pm
What was that Marvin? Expecting to draw a charge?
Meanwhile, what an effort by Josh Smith on the glass.
O'Brien
January 27th, 2010
10:01 pm
My bad. Wouldn’t want to give Teague some burn tonight because it might cost us the game…
Jody
January 27th, 2010
10:02 pm
Everything on offense is jumpshots. Against good defensive teams, this team does not have a way to get high percentage shots in the half court set. Imagine what the score would be if Joe wasn’t hot.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:02 pm
Josh thought about the jumper, then thought better of it… kicked it to Marvin for 2
Jody
January 27th, 2010
10:03 pm
Definitely give it up for Josh. The young man is working HARD!
NoleRick
January 27th, 2010
10:03 pm
Is it over yet?
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:03 pm
this Texas trip we’ve seen the Josh from early this season…
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
10:03 pm
woww!!!!!!
Melvin
January 27th, 2010
10:04 pm
How many 4pt plays does Jamaal has this season… my gosh…
Sid
January 27th, 2010
10:05 pm
The Spurs are old like Bibby and they cannot keep up that first half pace . The killer was we were not controlling our boards or even putting up a fight . the Spurs had 10 offensive rebounds in the first half and we need to get after it . I agree with Northcyde that JJ or jamal or both will have to to go in the phonebooth and get the cape .
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:05 pm
yes Jamal!
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:06 pm
Now we’ve seen that from Jamal before. I know he did it on purpose.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:06 pm
intensity is about to pick up!
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:07 pm
there you go Marvin…
Sautee
January 27th, 2010
10:07 pm
Switching d against this team makes it SOOOO hard on Horford and Josh.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:08 pm
Horford has looked like boo boo tonight
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:08 pm
Why don’t we putt Collins in. Al is not big enuff to go against Duncan.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:08 pm
Another defensive play by Josh. Wow.
O'Brien
January 27th, 2010
10:08 pm
I like what I’ve seen from the Hawks this 3rd quarter. I wonder if Woody lit a fire under them at halftime?
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:09 pm
Al needs to sit down. He’s been almost as bad as bibby.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:09 pm
Horford doesn’t look comfortable out there. Normally he’s a tougher customer. Could his hand be bothering him that much, or is Duncan really just dominating him?
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:09 pm
Why do we keep giving it to Al. Woody is an idiot. Take Al out.
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:10 pm
Woody play one of Collins our RandMo man. DAMN
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:10 pm
O’brien,
Threatened to shave their eyebrows, I’m betting…
Sautee
January 27th, 2010
10:10 pm
bigdave,
He hasn’t even looked that good.
Jody
January 27th, 2010
10:11 pm
Horford’s hand is probably still bothering him no doubt, but there’s no question that he is also struggling with the size of Duncan.
O'Brien
January 27th, 2010
10:11 pm
I think Woody should give RandMo a chance to see if he can do anything.
Horford is sucking (maybe he is hurt), and ZaZa is soft.
Melvin
January 27th, 2010
10:11 pm
Get Parker out of there…
niremetal
January 27th, 2010
10:11 pm
Good ball movement. Prob too little too late.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:11 pm
Does anyone else think Horford’s post moves really haven’t improved much over the last year? I still don’t see that go-to move that players like Al Jefferson have. With his bulk he should be able to move people off their spots much more easily.
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
10:12 pm
bye bye tony
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:14 pm
Al needs to be at PF. HE IS NOT A TRUE CENTER FOR THE LAST TIME. He’s done a really good job holding that spot down. But that is not the spot where he will flourish.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:14 pm
Tonie Parkour! C’est la vie! Or something like that.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:15 pm
Geez, what a pass….Josh is getting it done. Between him and Joe….
Well, that will sit Horford down. I know why he was kept in the game. Nobody on the squad is better at guarding Duncan or making decent decisions out of the post with the ball (except Josh).
O'Brien
January 27th, 2010
10:15 pm
Najeh,
Horford really only has 2 moves. The jumper from the baseline, or when he backs his guy down, and then shoots a turnaround jumper. His post moves still need work. But it will come.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:16 pm
Parker may be gone, but now Duncan will step up. We’re playing competitive ball, but as Nire says, too little too late.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:17 pm
damn he left Hill in the dust…
but what is this..?
Blast
January 27th, 2010
10:17 pm
AL has some post up moves improved over two years, he’s getting better, but just not where Hawks can go with assurance to get a bucket in crunch time yet. But I think it will come.
Jody
January 27th, 2010
10:17 pm
I’ve noticed this year several times when teams guard Al with power forwards, Al eats them alive. But against centers, it’s a struggle for him and he has to expend more energy because of the size difference.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:17 pm
Yes, Al is a natural PF. I am not trying to dismiss the great things he DOES do. He’s the best ball-handling center in the league, one of the top 3 passers, probably one of the top 6 or 7 rebounders at least and despite his lack of size one of the better defenders. I’m strictly talking about his post game. In his 3rd year, he still scores most of his points off of jump shots, turnaround jumpers, fast break dunks, and put backs. Josh Smith is no Duncan, but he is good enough to hold his own as a post presence, especially with his left hand. Al Horford needs to get to that point. I brought up Al Jefferson earlier — he is the same size as Horford and is much better offensively despite going up against bigger players regularly, mainly because his post moves are so refined. That is an area on which Horford needs to work hard.
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:18 pm
Hawks choke just when they try to make a come back
iRepATL2
January 27th, 2010
10:18 pm
LEEEEEEEEETZZZZZZZZZZZZ GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:19 pm
Wow, are you serious… they cut it to 12 and then foul a guy throwing up a half court heave.
Melvin
January 27th, 2010
10:19 pm
Crawford foul him before the shot…
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
10:20 pm
dumbasses
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:20 pm
OMG….awful play.
Melvin
January 27th, 2010
10:20 pm
Bad pass by Josh. He should know that Marvin can’t reach down to catch a pass…
NoleRick
January 27th, 2010
10:21 pm
Funny that as ugly as this trainwreck of a game has been, its not over.
O'Brien
January 27th, 2010
10:21 pm
Stupid foul by Crawford. You expect that from a rookie, but not Jamal.
And horrible pass from Josh.
That being said, maybe they can get it single digits by the 5 minute mark as northcyde proclaimed.
I’m glad to see the Hawks are showing some effort though. They came it focused in the 3rd quarter. Good job Hawks and Woody. Now lets finish strong.
Melvin
January 27th, 2010
10:23 pm
Josh with 13rebs and 7ast thru 3qtrs. Nice…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:23 pm
Charlotte’s been getting some press recently for pushing for that 5th spot, but Chicago is making a strong push too. They just beat Oklahoma City on the road, pulling their record to .500. That is no easy task — we all know now how good OKC is.
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
10:24 pm
that pass was so bad I thought the hawks inbounded the ball!
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:24 pm
It doesn’t matter what position Al naturally plays. For us, he plays center, because we don’t have a better one on hand. Somebody wanna give a picture perfect transaction that lets him play PF (what do you do then, with Josh?) and doesn’t hurt us elsewhere?
Al Jefferson definitely has better offensive moves. His defense lacks, however. They both have the opposite of each other’s games to work on in my opinion.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:24 pm
Horford is an ideal pick and pop guy… as far as his block work… mmmm… bully ball is his game. nothing refined.
Sautee…. funny… but you might be right…
if they pull this one out this would be the best year of the yr.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:24 pm
THERE’s the Zaza I know, bodying up DeJuan Blair and forcing him into a contested shot.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:27 pm
Ugh…missed free throws….
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:27 pm
Mo is terrible
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:27 pm
Mo cant guard Manu… Manu killed him last year
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:27 pm
Jamal with the drifter…
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:28 pm
Coach… get Joe to the table for Mo…
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
10:28 pm
bonner shoots like a girl
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:29 pm
LOL. Josh gets whacked on the nose, but he got up for that rebound. Nice focus, yo!
Melvin
January 27th, 2010
10:29 pm
Woody you may want to give Josh 1-2mins of rest…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:29 pm
Smoove deserves some major props for this game. He has played really hard and is once again within striking distance of a triple double.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:29 pm
Sheesh. Once screen is al Jamal needs. He’s hot, but I’d bring Joe back in for Mo, as Bigdave suggests.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:29 pm
“the best year of the yr.”
win…
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:29 pm
Bonner does shoot like a girl lol
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
10:30 pm
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:29 pm
Bonner does shoot like a girl lol
Glad someone agrees
iRepATL
January 27th, 2010
10:30 pm
JAMAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
January 27th, 2010
10:30 pm
Still not out of it….Crawford seems to be feelin it…I thought this ish was over when i left lmao
Melvin
January 27th, 2010
10:30 pm
I’m so disappointed in Mo. I see why he’s a NBA journeymen…
Blast
January 27th, 2010
10:31 pm
Jamal is surreal, y’all.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:31 pm
Shut the f-ck up Bob, don’t jinx them, for crying out loud…
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:31 pm
Joe…Josh…Jamal…
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:31 pm
Josh is the player of the game. With Joe bing right behind him.
Bibby has been the turd of the game. Absolutely useless.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:33 pm
Breaking news: the Nets won a game.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
January 27th, 2010
10:34 pm
that was a big possession
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
10:34 pm
FOOOULLLLLLL
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:34 pm
‘Nique called the Spurs the Pacers. Get those headphones away from him, please.
No call. Of course. Then again, Zaza doesn’t know how to keep the ball high when he gets a rebound. Never has. Wasted opportunity.
Mac-Town'z Finest 478
January 27th, 2010
10:35 pm
we had two chances right there on those last 2 possessions to cut it to 7 or 6 and we blew it
that might have did it..hope not
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:35 pm
GET MO OUT THE GAME!
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:35 pm
Just sit Al. He hasn’t done anything.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:35 pm
I’m still trying to figure out how Zaza managed to kick the ball out of bounds. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that happen.
Blast
January 27th, 2010
10:35 pm
Hawks ain’t getting the breaks right now, but they have to hang on.
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
10:35 pm
okay game over
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:36 pm
Mo f-in up the rotations… i cant stand that guy…
sheesh…!!
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:36 pm
Thats what the Hawks do. Choke away opputunities.
O'Brien
January 27th, 2010
10:36 pm
Wasted opportunites by the Hawks. Down by 9, 2 chances to cut it to 7, and they missed one shot, and then had a turnover (plus a foul that wasn’t called).
And Duncan will be back soon.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:36 pm
Since the time Bob Rathbun said “the Hawks are going on a run and I don’t think the Spurs can recapture their magic” or something to that effect, the Spurs have outscored the Hawks 4-0, and the Hawks have missed two layups and committed two turnovers.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:37 pm
‘Nique, what do you mean the Spurs have found momentum in the last couple of minutes?
The Hawks have had a stretch of bad breaks, and just hit two shots. Good grief….Bob, just cut the wires to his headphones, will ya? We’ll buy you a steak dinner on Chik-fil-A night, we promise.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:37 pm
ZaZa belongs in this highlight…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I38Fln4ULo8
Blast
January 27th, 2010
10:39 pm
That Miller Light Ad might be the worse ever made! All he had to say was I love you too! It doesn’t mean I’m IN Love with you! I love most of my girlfriends, but it does not mean I want to be with them!
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:39 pm
WHY THE F_CK IS BIBBY PLAYIN
O'Brien
January 27th, 2010
10:39 pm
Oh oh. Al and Bibby are both back in. I hope Woody has a short leash on them
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:39 pm
well…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:39 pm
“‘Nique, what do you mean the Spurs have found momentum in the last couple of minutes? ”
He means the Spurs are putting up great nimbers.
Blast
January 27th, 2010
10:39 pm
Hawks have had their chances, but they are not capitalizing.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:41 pm
If missed layups got you two points, the Hawks would have taken the lead already.
Spurs have been allowing the Hawks to hang around with some wide open bricks.
O'Brien
January 27th, 2010
10:42 pm
How many times has Nique said “yes he has”. Come on Nique. Add something to Bob’s comments, dont just agree with him.
We need Crawford to get hot again so he can help out JJ
Blast
January 27th, 2010
10:42 pm
Probably the reason Bibby is playing is because Tony is out, and Bibby hit some big time shots last game?…..
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:42 pm
well damn.
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:43 pm
Bibby is atrocious. he shouldn’t be allowed on the court.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:43 pm
Joe could make a highlight reel just of the shots he’s made in this game…
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:44 pm
Man are they gona call a foul everytime
Blast
January 27th, 2010
10:44 pm
Refs bailing Spurs out.
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:45 pm
Game Over
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:45 pm
Ball hoggery doesn’t work against the Spurs’ aggressive zone D, Joe.
Time to get Teague some playing time.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:45 pm
That last block on Duncan is exactly why Al was in the game so much early on. He can’t stop Duncan every time, but he’s as good as it’s going to get for guarding him in this game.
Meanwhile, I don’t have one bad thing to say about ISO Joe tonight. Not ONE. Dude has been playing like a guy who should be starting in the ASG. But that steal via the double team was going to happen sooner or later. Joe is clearly winded.
niremetal
January 27th, 2010
10:46 pm
Worst of all possible ISOs: JJ dribbling without purpose, and no one moving to get open.
jean
January 27th, 2010
10:46 pm
joe johnson sucks what a MENTAL MIDGET NEVER HITS A SHOT THAT MATTERS AL HORTFORD WAS A STRAIT BUM…AND JOSH SMITH I THE DUMBEST PLAYER IN NBA ONE PLAYER ON THIS TEAM HAS BALLS CRAWFORD
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:46 pm
Bibby=TURD
O'Brien
January 27th, 2010
10:47 pm
Blast,
Bibby is 0-7 this game. It doesn’t matter what he did last game.
Hawks gave it a valiant effort in the second half, but they were horrible in the first half, and thats what cost them the game.
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
10:47 pm
The way I looked at it was when I saw the next 5 games starting with houston I’d be happy with 3-2. That looks still possible
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:47 pm
LOL @ Najeh….”nimbers”
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:47 pm
Wow, I just noticed Bibby’s stat line. He could probably qualify for “Today’s Worst” on ESPN.com’s Daily Dime with that.
Melvin
January 27th, 2010
10:48 pm
Spurs 1st half lead was too big to overcome. Hawks had to play almost perfect ball in the 2nd half to win this game.
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:49 pm
Well we can beat the Celtics but we will get embarrassed by the MAgic again. [sigh]
O'Brien
January 27th, 2010
10:49 pm
I think Woody should have kept Marvin in the game instead of Bibby. At least Marvin was playing defense, and he was 3-7.
Bibby plays no defense, and he was 0-7. Plus when the team made their run, Bibby did not contribute much.
Blast
January 27th, 2010
10:49 pm
Ball Game! Sorry Hawks, it’s all over.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:50 pm
I don’t expect the Hawks to win every game. They have played well in this 2nd half overall, and they have outscored the Spurs by 9 in this half. I would just like to see them play well in every game. Some games, even if you play well, you will lose. I just hate seeing them play like they did in the first half, where they clearly are not giving 100%.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:50 pm
Co-sign O’brien . Terrible first half doomed the Hawks, despite a competitive second half. Night y’all…
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:52 pm
Tim Duncan scored 21 and grabbed 26. Al should have not been playing him. Collins has the size.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:53 pm
Tim Duncan with a 20-20 night. Is there a better big man in the business?
Joe with a more-than-valiant effort.
Josh was an all-out warrior.
Jamal was awesome off the bench.
Bibby had his worst game of the year.
Marvin played to his season average.
Horford stayed in foul trouble and couldn’t hit a shot.
Spurs break their losing streak, Hawks have to move on.
bigdave
January 27th, 2010
10:54 pm
lol… at the 0 for graphic right over Bibby’s face…
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:54 pm
LMAO they displayed Bibby’s statline when they showed his sad face.
Damn he sucks
Blast
January 27th, 2010
10:54 pm
You so right O’Brien.
Hawks got that game versus Houston and felt it was okay to lay a brick versus the Spurs. Still not mad. Least they went 2-1 on the Texas road trip. It could have been worst than it has been the last few years.
O'Brien
January 27th, 2010
10:54 pm
Bone,
Before the game, I said I would like to see Collins get some minutes. And especially since Horford started out terribly, why not give Collins a chance?
And why play Bibby 21 minutes, when it was obvious from early on that he was missing shots, and Parker was eating him alive.
That being said, Hawks are 1-1 on the Texas trip, and all things considered, thats ok. Lets beat Boston, and all will be right with the world
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:54 pm
big dave you saw that too lol
Najeh Davenpoop
January 27th, 2010
10:55 pm
If Woody doesn’t give a sh-t about offense, that’s his call I guess, but if he really wants to stress defense to this team, he absolutely has to get them playing better on the boards. Josh Smith and Al Horford give all-out effort to control the boards, but the Hawks are still a very average team in rebounding, and this is mainly because players don’t box out. Way too often today, the Spurs got rebounds not because of superior height or athleticism but because there simply was nobody there to put a body on them. There’s no point in playing great defense — not that the Hawks necessarily do — if you can’t secure the rebound.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2010
10:57 pm
Co-sign Najeh
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:57 pm
Blast I don’t understand how you can be a FAN of this team and not be angry. This team has a captain that said “Nobody can give it their all every night”. Thats Bullsh_t. When the celtics won the title. I remember hearing that KG didn’t let anyone take nites off. Now that is a leader. If KG was on this team I think the Hawks could win a championship. But this team has about a 10% chance. They are too damn inconsistent.
NoleRick
January 27th, 2010
10:58 pm
The bigger question is why does this team come out flat in the beginning of almost every game??
BONE
January 27th, 2010
10:59 pm
O’brien Woody doesn’t like to do tings that MAKE SENSE.
Clyde
January 27th, 2010
10:59 pm
FIRE WOODY
I can just hear Little Ray defending Horford for allowing Duncan to get a 20-20 night. “His hand was hurting what do you expect.”
Jody
January 27th, 2010
11:00 pm
Duncan was simply too big. 25 rebounds. Wow.
FRESH
January 27th, 2010
11:02 pm
LOL…The blog gonna torch Bibby tonight.
darrell starks
January 27th, 2010
11:07 pm
Go get andris biedrins.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!
JohnnyWalking
January 27th, 2010
11:08 pm
The Spurs had lost 3 in a row, so you kinda expected this effort. But they do just look oldddd. Nobli and that Bald spot. Damn. Horford’s hand is really bothering his shot. He is usually money from 8 to 10 ft. Bibby has some mental issues going on. He has to give something on the offensive end. The His shot is wayyyy off. He got pissed at Crawford for not passing him the ball. Then waved him off when he started to pass it to him. Still all in all Hawks are 1 win away from 30. I cant really complain.
Jody
January 27th, 2010
11:08 pm
Correction, 27 rebounds. Again, tooo big.
Ken
January 27th, 2010
11:09 pm
Your starting point goes 0 for 7 with 1 assist in 27 minutes and J. Teague plays about 4 minutes. Clearly, Bibby took the night off and should not have been in the game. Coach Woodson refuses to play rookies meaningful minutes . Its hard to understand his reasoning.
Clyde
January 27th, 2010
11:11 pm
Bibby was on his last leg last year and we were stupid enough to give him a new contract.
darrell starks
January 27th, 2010
11:12 pm
Hawks need a center as you can see the way duncan control the paint 25 rebound wow.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!
Clyde
January 27th, 2010
11:13 pm
Woody is Woody. He will live and die with Bibby. He gave us nothing the whole night and Woody puts him back in the game with 6 minutes left. SMGDH
darrell starks
January 27th, 2010
11:22 pm
If miami get amar’e stoudemire and from what i here they are making a strong push for him miami will win the east.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!
Taylor
January 27th, 2010
11:24 pm
Miami winning the east..LOL
Ole Hawk's Fan
January 27th, 2010
11:26 pm
DEFENSE……………………………DEFENSE…………………………….Is NOT mention in Da Same breath with MIKE BIBBY. MIKE hasn’t played DEFENSE since his second year in DA NBA. ZaZa is DEAD WEIGHT on this team. He brings nothing POSITIVE to this team.
Ole Hawk's Fan
January 27th, 2010
11:27 pm
That was a good old behind Da Barn a__ kicking tonight.
BONE
January 27th, 2010
11:36 pm
If they do get Amare I think the Heat could win the east too. Wade + Amare in the playoffs is a problem. And they can mos def beat the hawks.
kwooden1
January 27th, 2010
11:40 pm
I didn’t see the game, but it’s interesting to me to see that even if you see the beast coming you can’t stop him. Parker is a handful for everyone, so Bibby getting destroyed is no surprise. Duncan going to work on Horford is not surprise enter, a healthy Duncan does that to everyone also. The SPURS have a lot of pride, so I expected them to take care of their business. The HAWKS needed to play a near prefect game to win tonight and obviously they didn’t. I hope that they can get some rest tomorrow and get ready for another beast coming is Friday. BOSTON definitely doesn’t want to lose 4 in row to us.
GO HAWKS!!!
STRONG HAWK
January 27th, 2010
11:43 pm
(I”LL JUST SAY THIS)IF THE HAWKS WOULD HAVE THE HEART TO MAKE THE TRADE FOR EITHER MARCUS CAMBY WHO IS GOING TO GIVE U 10 TO 15 PIONTS A GAME AND 10 TO 20 REBS. AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT HE CAN DO ON D.I’ll EVEN TAKE BRANDON HAYWOOD FROM THE WIZARDS WHO GIVE U 10 AND 10 WITH GOOD D. I SAY THIS BECASE WE NEED A SEVENFOOTER SO WE CAN MOVE AL TO WHERE HE NEED TO BE AT THE POWER JOSH AT SMALL MARVIN OFF THE BENCH WITCH WOULD MAKE EVEN STROGER. THIS WOULD GIVE US SOME MUCH NEEDED SIZE. I PROMISE YOU”LL WE WILL TAKE THE EAST.
darrell starks
January 27th, 2010
11:58 pm
I just look at bibby fg. pct he shooting a dismal 41pct from the field unbelievable, and he play no defense, you have to be kidding me teague is playing 2min a game way 2 go woody.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!
darrell starks
January 28th, 2010
12:06 am
STRONG HAWK im feeling you all the way, the hawks have move horford 2 power ford and bring in a center, because come playoff everything is half court basketball in you must control the paint.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!
cp
January 28th, 2010
12:10 am
The reason we did not see Collins tonight because he is wearing a suit but for some reason Mario is on the active roster. That seriously makes no sense to me. The one night we needed some size we opted to have it sit in a suit….Its time to replace Nique. I love all the things he did in a Hawks uniform but listening to him call a game is just pain to my ears. Like ray suggested last year, mute his mic but let him think its still on……Mo Evans has been terrible this year and outside of a nice stretch last season he was pretty bad then too….O’Brien I would love to get Camby too but the Clippers said if they continue to play well they wont trade him so I don’t know about that option. Josh Boone is available from the Nets. His contract is only 2 million. He can play pf and c. We might need to look into that. We don’t really have a defensive big coming off the bench and we could use one…. I hope they come out with better energy Friday.
nunna yo biznezz
January 28th, 2010
11:43 am
really frustrating last nite,but,i expected this..
i expected this in the last game as well with houston but i was totally wrong and they did what i always have said should be the main plan..
sub starting 5 for 5 bench players,and allow the starters to rest and blow out the other team come 3rd quarter..and match up our deficiencies,wit players off the bench..
example:match up randmo against duncan,since collins was in street clothes..putting mario or teague in more against tony parker..
drmaryb
January 29th, 2010
9:43 am
Hey Al Horford –
I could care less about 7 stitches in a thumb? KOBE plays with a broke finger and Brett Farve is 185 years old…he plays with sprained ankles and broken arms. These wussies are making stupid money to play a silly game & we bloggers can only dream about an opportunity like that.
Take your 7 stitches…stick them in your ear and play ball man! No excuses!
“This is the NBA man.” Scarface took what? – 100 bullets and was still kicking that azz~!
Nuff Said! Just Win Baby!
drmaryb
January 29th, 2010
10:00 am
Hey FRESH!
Glad you like my humor. I don’t post very often – my business is very demanding these days.
But I like to check in on here from time to time to see what – Big Ray, Doc, Ken, Najeh, Rich Brave and ‘Nem are up to.
This blog can really get bogged down with drama and silly people saying silly stuff…So my Theoretic-ally and Realistic-ally humor was just another attempt at making you guys laugh and just trying to keep it light. Life is way too short to be so serious, especially about some lucky guys playing such a silly game.
For me…it’s all just ENTERTAINMENT! Have fun and pay your bills I say! Whether these TEAMS win or lose…They are all Millionaires!
Anyway, have some fun on here! But more importantly…lets take care of our FAMILIES! Now, that’s REEL!!!!!!!!!!!
drmaryb
January 29th, 2010
10:04 am
Hey StrongHawk..
What has Marcus Camby ever won? Oh, my bad he took a bribe for a gold chained necklace when he was in college.
Marcus Camby is not gonna stop: SHAQ, Duncan, Dwight Howard, Dereck Lee, – or anyone else for that matter. We need a shot-blocker in that post with size and girth to win a championship….Unless, you got MJ, KOBE, LebRon, Dwayne Wade, or Carmello? Your’e gonna need a CENTER! with SIZE & SKILLZ.
Sorry Fellas, take it from a woman…SIZE does Matter!!!!! lol!