Othello Hunter, the losing streak

Hey, folks-

Hope you are well. I wanted to hopefully shed some light on the Hawks’ thinking in the release of Othello Hunter (some) and also the players-only meeting (probably not a lot more than what was in the story).

First, Hunter. This is Rick Sund’s answer to why the team made the move.

“Basically, it just gives us some options for the roster. Wev’e got a two-week grace period in which we can have a 12-man roster before we have to get to a 13-man roster. It allows us to be able to look at the waiver wires a little bit right now. We have the NBDL Showcase, which coincides with this time period, so all the D-League teams are in one place.”

My sense of things is that they’ll look hard at the Showcase, see if any other NBA teams’ cuts looks intriguing, and if not, they may well go ahead and sign Hunter back. Sund said there wasn’t anything in particular they were looking for.

Said Sund, “I think we’re pretty well-covered in all the positions. I’ve had some dialogue with Woody. We’ll see what happens in the next week and a half.”

I imagine some of you pull your hair out at the notion of the team being well-covered at every position. Certainly, the Hawks could be strengthened at some spots. But I’d say it’s unlikely that there’s someone out there in the D-League or about to get cast off from an NBA roster who’s going to be significantly better than what the Hawks have now.

What was interesting to me was that the Hawks didn’t have to let Hunter go to fish around, but it would certainly appear that budget has at least something to do with it. I asked Sund about why they couldn’t just add a 10-day player if they found one, or something to that effect, and he said, “We’re going to go with a 13-man roster this year.”

In fairness, I don’t think it is that big a deal. Some teams carry the full 15. Having more would help, certainly. If a player got hurt, then you could have someone to dress out who already knows the schemes. But, these are the realities of the league and the franchise. The Nets are, or at least were, leaving one assistant coach at home on each road trip to save money.

Joe Johnson on the losing streak

From Tuesday. Questions approximated.

Q: How is this losing streak different than those in the past?

A: It’s no different. We’ve just got to get back on track.

Q: What do you have to do?

A: Just get back to playing with intensity, having fun. That’s pretty much the difference. It seems as if we’re just kind of out there, just going through the motions.

Q: Do you think players have been reading press clippings about how good they are? (For the record, I didn’t ask that. Not that it’s a bad question, but I would feel very weird asking someone if they had been reading my stories)

A: I know they haven’t been doing that. I think we’re a pretty good team, but we’ve still got a long ways to go.

Q: How long do you think the team has been ‘going through the motions’?

A: I don’t know. I don’t know how long it’s been going on, but we just haven’t been playing up to our capabilities.

Q: You’ve played 43, 40, 45 and 38 minutes in the last four games. How are your legs?

A: I’m a little tired, but I’ve been doing this for awhile. I’ll be alright.

Q: The team has been settling a lot for jump shots. Do you see this as a problem?

A: I do think we have to get a little more aggressive, but we’ll figure it out.

My take on his answers and where the team is. Joe is not the most expansive player on the team, and I got the impression he was either on his way out the door somewhere or didn’t feel like talking a whole lot. I think it’s noteworthy that he conceded that the team needs to be more aggressive. Players, and I suppose all of us, don’t like to admit we’ve been doing something incorrectly. For him to own that, I think, says something.

And, I think, too, the fact that they decided they needed a players-only meeting is pretty significant. It’s the first one they’ve had this season and that, more than anything, is acknowledgement that something is wrong. I don’t exactly what was said – I think it was mostly, “We’ve got to get back to playing how we were before,” meaning defending well, rebounding and running.

We’ll see how things shake out against the Nets and this weekend. I think tonight is important, even if it’s the Nets, for them to establish the rhythms and style of play that has worked so well for them.

Gotta run.

337 comments Add your comment

FUNNY

January 6th, 2010
8:30 pm

WITH THAT NJ IS ONLY DOWN 14

KevinA

January 6th, 2010
8:32 pm

Duncan scores 20 pts a game – leading in attempts for his team Give Al that many and he would be close

KevinA

January 6th, 2010
8:33 pm

FUNNY

January 6th, 2010
8:29 pm
DRIVE BY LEE WHERE WAS OUR CENTER?

lee another guard – who do our guards guard

BONE

January 6th, 2010
8:34 pm

Hawks only up 13? Man the hawks stink

FUNNY

January 6th, 2010
8:34 pm

I GUESS THEY GOT TIRED OF AL’S DEFENSE AND ARE NOW PUTTING OUR JOSH ON HIM

vava74

January 6th, 2010
8:35 pm

FUNNY if you do not understand what a switching defense does “basket protection” then you should learn… you are still on time

FUNNY

January 6th, 2010
8:35 pm

I THINK ZAZA IS A BETTER DEFENDER THAN AL

FUNNY

January 6th, 2010
8:36 pm

SO AL’S ON THE BENCH.

Melvin

January 6th, 2010
8:36 pm

Crawford with a strong layup….lol

Big Ray

January 6th, 2010
8:37 pm

Playing a little sloppy now. Winning easily, though….

FUNNY

January 6th, 2010
8:38 pm

CENTERS PROTECT THE RIM, KEVIN. THEY STAY IN THE CENTER, NEAR THE BASKET, THATS WHY THEY CALL THEM CENTERS

Big Ray

January 6th, 2010
8:38 pm

Gee, I wonder who FUNNY is….. :lol: ….

FUNNY

January 6th, 2010
8:39 pm

SO WHY DO THE HAWKS GIVE UP SO MANY POINTS IN THE LOW POST?

welikebaseball2

January 6th, 2010
8:39 pm

Here we go with the Al/Josh bashing. LOL! If they dominate tonight, it doesn’t count because the opposition was inferior. If they don’t dominate, it proves the popular cry that we “need a true center.” Two things in regards to that school of thought:

1) The problem is not with our starting frontcourt. The issue is Woodson’s failure to fully utilize our frontcourt depth (ZaZa, Joe Smith, Collins, Morris). I think Al & Josh have more than held their own this season.

2) It’s not all on Al & Josh if they don’t stop EVERY drive made by opposing guards. Our perimeter defenders has been non-existent in terms of staying in front of their men. Points in the paint are a reflection on the defense as a whole, not just your frontcourt.

BONE

January 6th, 2010
8:40 pm

ZaZa PaAwkward

Big Ray

January 6th, 2010
8:40 pm

THEIR center has 12 points and 6 boards. OUR center has 8 points and 10 boards.

Oh wait, I forgot. We don’t have a center. We have a fake center.

So. Our “fake” center is outrebounding their “real” center. Heh…..

FUNNY

January 6th, 2010
8:41 pm

YEAH, ZAZA IS A BETTER DEFENDER

welikebaseball2

January 6th, 2010
8:41 pm

Big Ray: LOL regarding who FUNNY is! Hmmmm….:-)

Big Ray

January 6th, 2010
8:41 pm

Their low post players have combined for 26 points, and ours only have 20. Yep, we’re giving up too many points in the paint again….that’s why we’re up by dang near 20 points…. :lol:

Big Ray

January 6th, 2010
8:42 pm

welikebaseball2 ,

;)

BONE

January 6th, 2010
8:43 pm

ZAZA PaAwkward is not a better defender than horford.

MyView

January 6th, 2010
8:44 pm

LMFAO….Nique called Crawfords dunk a “tweener”.

Big Ray

January 6th, 2010
8:44 pm

I have to say, Josh’s jumper doesn’t look bad when he gets a chance to set his feet. It’s still good for him not to resort to that shot very often, but it doesn’t look bad. He just has to get a clear look, and his feet set.

Hawks are back to sharing the ball (27 assists), and that makes all the difference. Not to mention decent efforts on defense and on the boards.

Kiki

January 6th, 2010
8:45 pm

It’s kind of worrysome that our guards cannot stay in front of anybody, then Horford/Smith have to pick them up ending away from the basket guarding people they are not supposed to guard. No matter how agile our frontcourt is, that is a liability.

FUNNY

January 6th, 2010
8:45 pm

AND WHY ARE THE HAWKS AT THE BOTTOM FOR GIVING UP POINTS UNDER THE BASKET?

Melvin

January 6th, 2010
8:46 pm

Joe Smith takes a 3pt shot from the corner off an Jamal ISO play to end the 3rd qtr… Does this answer yall question as to why Josh stands on the perimeter on offense……

bigdave

January 6th, 2010
8:46 pm

a jumper from Josh always looks bad.

Sautee

January 6th, 2010
8:48 pm

Funny how we can’t defend the paint and yet we are 6th in the league in blocked shots. That’s higher than Orlando, Cleveland, LA and Boston.

We must be blocking jumpers, lol.

KevinA

January 6th, 2010
8:48 pm

poor guard defense

Melvin

January 6th, 2010
8:48 pm

I told yall Yi was going to be a baller…

BONE

January 6th, 2010
8:48 pm

I agree with big dave all of Jos’s jumpers look like potential misses lol

BONE

January 6th, 2010
8:48 pm

Big Ray

January 6th, 2010
8:49 pm

Nothing’s FUNNIER than somebody who can’t read a box score…..Al Horford has 8 points, 10 boards. DUH….

FUNNY

January 6th, 2010
8:49 pm

GUARDS DONT DEFEND UNDERNEATH THE BASKET CENTERS DO’

KevinA

January 6th, 2010
8:50 pm

Fact is our bigs are great passers – but they don’t get the ball enough to max the team potential

Big Ray

January 6th, 2010
8:52 pm

Guards don’t defend under the basket and Jerry’s Kids don’t get their own computer (hence the constantly changing IP and e-mail addresses).

The world just ain’t fair…. :)

O'Brien

January 6th, 2010
8:53 pm

I’m glad the Hawks are winning. And they are doing all the things they should do consistently. Making the extra pass, getting the rebound and pushing tempo etc.

But keep in mind that these are the Nets. The true test will be to see what the Hawks do in their next 3 games (Boston twice, and Orlando).

Raise your hands, who on here would trade Marvin for Yi straight up?

welikebaseball2

January 6th, 2010
8:53 pm

Hmmmm….somebody has a personal hatred towards Horford….hmmmm, maybe someone is mad about life & displacing their anger. FUNNY how Al is regarded amongst NBA coaches as one of the top interior defenders in the league, yet he’s regarded as a defensive liability (of all the Hawks defenders…LOL) by someone in particular. Hmmm….FUNNY indeed….hilarious even.

Big Ray

January 6th, 2010
8:54 pm

It’s about time we got to see Teague. Playing against Devin Harris is good experience.

vava74

January 6th, 2010
8:54 pm

JT0 is doing a good job staying in front of his guy

BONE

January 6th, 2010
8:55 pm

Marvin look like a str8 G on the bench lol. Go Marvin.

welikebaseball2

January 6th, 2010
8:55 pm

Big Ray: LOL @ your 8:52 post!

welikebaseball3

January 6th, 2010
8:55 pm

ITS MR HOE FORD

Big Ray

January 6th, 2010
8:55 pm

O’brien ,

I want to hear YOUR answer to that question first, lol!

Sautee

January 6th, 2010
8:55 pm

I guess that 25 point lead had NOTHING to do with Horford getting some rest……

Hilarious how far some will go to disparage players they hate.

Melvin

January 6th, 2010
8:56 pm

O’Brien,

I like Marvin but for some reason I find my hands in the air…lol

KevinA

January 6th, 2010
8:56 pm

I never claimed that our big’s are the end all of be all – I just think we play much better with balanced attempts. Key to game – have yet to see us walk the ball up and waste time in ISO

Mac-Town'z Finest 478

January 6th, 2010
8:58 pm

lmao@BONE…..Marvin looks so comfortable over there…and he can wear a towel on his head in more fashions than anyone I know…he’s a thousand times more electric, vibrant and into th game when he’s on the bench….just look at the bench when they show it and he’s there…the guy was just created for the bench

welikebaseball3

January 6th, 2010
8:58 pm

AS USUAL, POINTS WELL TAKEN KevinA

Big Ray

January 6th, 2010
8:58 pm

FUNNY how outright lying is pathological for some people…